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Iain
Iain
6:00 PM
@Shads0 a clean start - good idea :)
 
Bart Silverstrim
Bart Silverstrim
Did you know that there are studies linking meats and animal-derived foods (cheese/milk) to cancers?
 
Shads0
Shads0
You know whats a better idea? eating cheetos :)
@BartSilverstrim If you ruin bacon for me, I will never forgive you
 
Bart Silverstrim
Bart Silverstrim
Sorry...
Seems odd.
But there are a number of them out there.
 
Zoredache
Zoredache
@BartSilverstrim, is there any studies that show that anything we consume cannot cause cancer? AFAIK, can tell breathing may cause cancer.
 
Shads0
Shads0
I'll be sure to pay @KyleBrandt to blog every 23 hours and 59 minutes
 
Bart Silverstrim
Bart Silverstrim
6:01 PM
Breathing around traffic it does.
Don't be an ass, shads0.
 
Shads0
Shads0
<3
 
Bart Silverstrim
Bart Silverstrim
I'll have to bookmark the fucking room to get back here...
 
Chris S
Chris S
Back from the Pot Luck. What did I miss?
 
Bart Silverstrim
Bart Silverstrim
incidence of heart attack/stroke (cancer?) in the workplace is down after the enactment of those laws restricting smoking in public places.
 
Shads0
Shads0
I used the ultimate threat on @BartSilverstrim and it worked :)
 
Bart Silverstrim
Bart Silverstrim
6:03 PM
Heard about that study too.
Vegetarians have a lower incidence of cancer compared to people with a typical Western diet.
 
Iain
Iain
@Zoredache living causes cancer
5
 
Bart Silverstrim
Bart Silverstrim
That may not be entirely untrue either...since we live longer, and cancers are mutations of cells, living longer means living long enough to suffer from cancer rather than being stepped on by a mastodon.
 
Shads0
Shads0
This has become DepressingChat.SE....WHO'S GOT THE TITTIES?
 
Chris S
Chris S
@Iain NEWS FLASH: Life is the root cause of all fatal disease.
 
Bart Silverstrim
Bart Silverstrim
Breast cancer may be related to hormone fluctuations.
 
MikeyB
MikeyB
6:05 PM
0
Q: sendmail sending mail to recipients I don’t know of; possible spam host

Quintin ParRecently I did an audit of my machine with logwatch and found out that my machine sends around 582 mails everyday. STATISTICS ---------- Messages To Recipients: 582 Addressed Recipients: 582 Bytes Transferred: 444985 Messages No Valid Rcpts: 0 SMTP SESSION, MESSAGE, OR RECIPI...

sendmail spam audit malware
 
Iain
Iain
@ChrisS indeed
 
MikeyB
MikeyB
0.0001 bitcoins it's cron sending those emails.
 
Bart Silverstrim
Bart Silverstrim
So is this encouragement to just not bother living?
 
Shads0
Shads0
To star or not to star, it had the word "breast" in it...but relating to cancer....decisions....
 
Zoredache
Zoredache
@BartSilverstrim, no you have to accept cancer. Learn to love it. Maybe your version will give you a mutant healing factor.
 
Bart Silverstrim
Bart Silverstrim
6:06 PM
We just found out the growth removed from my wife's arm is benign.
Learned that last week.
 
Shads0
Shads0
I did see a study where they're using a combination of tracking cells with infrared light as a cure instead of chemo/radiation.
 
Bart Silverstrim
Bart Silverstrim
She gets the stitches out tonight.
 
Shads0
Shads0
@BartSilverstrim Hurrah!
 
Bart Silverstrim
Bart Silverstrim
Waiting to see what my dad's surgery found.
Removed something the size of a golf ball from his upper arm.
 
Shads0
Shads0
Is he alright?
 
Bart Silverstrim
Bart Silverstrim
6:08 PM
As far as we know, just waiting to know what the thing was they removed.
Some kind of "mass".
I think it's scar tissue of some kind.
He's out and about, he held the flashlight last night while I unloaded 1300 pounds of coal from the truck, so he's just really store and annoyed by the stitches.
I live in a little depressed world sometimes :-)
 
Shads0
Shads0
At least he's alright
 
Bart Silverstrim
Bart Silverstrim
My wife hates that I don't sleep all the time like she does. Sometimes I think if I tried to sleep in the afternoon and at night I just wouldn't bother getting up anymore.
But hey! My backups are almost done...
 
Shads0
Shads0
My gf is the same way, goes to bed at freaking 9 sometimes...I can't even feel drowsy until 1 am
 
Bart Silverstrim
Bart Silverstrim
/me dances around
 
pauska
pauska
@BartSilverstrim Great news man
 
Bart Silverstrim
Bart Silverstrim
6:11 PM
I go to bed around 9 or 10...up at 5...although lately I've been crawling out of bed.
I watched Ninja Turtled with my little guy.
 
pauska
pauska
@Shads0 Other way around here.. I want to go to bed at 10:30 pm-ish, and one of the following situations always arrives: A) She comes to bed with me, and starts yapping until its 1 am or something like that B) I go to bed alone
 
Bart Silverstrim
Bart Silverstrim
I think he likes them because they like pizza.
 
MarkM
MarkM
@BartSilverstrim Good news! Now she can continue crushing me at Words with Friends for the foreseeable future.
 
pauska
pauska
and the occasional.. cuddling.
 
Shads0
Shads0
I'm lucky enough that the traffic is opposite where I commute, so its only 10 min, which means 1 min to get ready and the other 9 panicing out the door
 
Bart Silverstrim
Bart Silverstrim
6:12 PM
She said you haven't been replying on the game?
 
Shads0
Shads0
@pauska How do you cuddle with the sock?
 
Bart Silverstrim
Bart Silverstrim
How long has it been since a game reply came?
 
tombull89
tombull89
Wow. Just...wow.
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Q: How to implement cheap LFF 3.5" SATA storage on a HP ProLiant ML350 G6 with 2.5" SFF SAS

nyberghMy workplace currently has a problem. In a series of bad, hasty decisions, a HP ProLiant ML350 G6 server was bought for file server use. The intention was to build a FreeNAS 8 server using cheap 3.5" SATA drives. Only the HP ProLiant ML350 G6 unit we got is equipped for 2.5 SAS drives. Smooth. ...

storage nas proliant freenas esata
 
Bart Silverstrim
Bart Silverstrim
@MarkM:If something is wonky with the game, you might have to start a new one with her. I think she thought you stopped playing rounds with her.
 
Shads0
Shads0
@BartSilverstrim Like that can't be taken out of context....
 
pauska
pauska
6:16 PM
I just found a great album on Spotify (by just random playing stuff from "top albums").. anyone heard of M83 - Hurry Up, We're Dreaming?
 
Bart Silverstrim
Bart Silverstrim
Is that...who I think it is?...
 
pauska
pauska
@BartSilverstrim Again?!?! Dude, the video is from JUNE.. we've all seen it!
 
Bart Silverstrim
Bart Silverstrim
But is that who I thought it was?
at the 1:50 mark?
 
pauska
pauska
yes, it's rebecca black
 
Shads0
Shads0
creepy....
 
Bart Silverstrim
Bart Silverstrim
6:21 PM
Corey Feldman!
He was Donatello!
 
Scott Pack
Scott Pack
That is creepy.
 
Bart Silverstrim
Bart Silverstrim
I just watched the TMNT movies with my son.
I didn't realize he was Donnie.
 
Scott Pack
Scott Pack
Wait. Movies. Plural?
 
Bart Silverstrim
Bart Silverstrim
There were four.
 
Scott Pack
Scott Pack
Jesus
 
Chris S
Chris S
6:23 PM
4?? I know I saw 1 and 2... Not so sure about the rest.
 
Bart Silverstrim
Bart Silverstrim
There was the first movie, then secret of the ooze, then turtles in time, then a fourth CGI movie (with Patrick Stewart as a voice role...) called TMNT in 2007.
 
Scott Pack
Scott Pack
Fuck yeah! Segfault in VirtualBox!
 
Bart Silverstrim
Bart Silverstrim
four pack at Target for $12.
 
Iain
Iain
balls - I flagged an answer as should be a comment to the question and the OP has now changed the answer to a valid answer :(
 
Bart Silverstrim
Bart Silverstrim
2 was dedicated to Jim Henson.
 
MarkM
MarkM
6:26 PM
@Iain I'll dispute it for you
What question is i on?
 
Bart Silverstrim
Bart Silverstrim
Made me nostalgic for live-action animatronic costumes like in Dark Crystal, Labyrinth, Neverending Story...Critters...
 
Iain
Iain
I think that flags should be cleared if the OP makes a change to an answer/question
 
Shads0
Shads0
@Iain A case for being able to cancel flags
 
Bart Silverstrim
Bart Silverstrim
TMNT 2 had what is probably the WORST cameo. Ugh.
 
Iain
Iain
 
MarkM
MarkM
6:28 PM
@Iain Ok. Disputed
 
Chris S
Chris S
@Iain Or that fact should show up in bold red text next to the Helpful/Invalid buttons on the Mod's screen.
 
Iain
Iain
ta - I think I'll go swim with the mSO sharks/dragons and ask for a feature request
 
MarkM
MarkM
It's kind of funny that the whole "I'll dispute so that you don't lose FW" thing works.
 
Iain
Iain
It's happened to me before but Chopper and Splatne both checked with me before proceeding
 
Shads0
Shads0
I still wanna choke whoever declined my flag yesterday...
 
Chris S
Chris S
6:30 PM
@Shads0 What time of day?
 
Shads0
Shads0
off topic – 23 hours ago declined - a moderator reviewed your flag, but found no evidence to support it
On: http://serverfault.com/questions/333319/fiber-optic-communication-link-length
 
MarkM
MarkM
@Shads0 Yep
 
Shads0
Shads0
Which got closed around the same time that got declined
 
Chris S
Chris S
@Shads0 Probably SysAdmin, Chop, or MrDenny
 
nybergh
nybergh
Hm, I'm getting downvoted on this question, serverfault.com/questions/333786/… - Is there something obvious I could do to make it fit in better on serverfault?
 
Shads0
Shads0
6:33 PM
I don't care about not getting hte .3 FW (or whatever tiny amount) I care about losing the 10
 
Chris S
Chris S
@nybergh You're asking for a somewhat unsupportable solution to an unprofessional situation.. That's not going to garner much BOFH love.
 
pauska
pauska
review is almost completely empty.. alot of people hunting for badge?
 
Chris S
Chris S
Don't worry about the voting too much if you really just want an answer.
 
nybergh
nybergh
@ChrisS mm, true
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
@pauska expand it to month or all-time :)
 
Chris S
Chris S
6:35 PM
@pauska Most of the people in here are...
 
MarkM
MarkM
@pauska I already has it :D
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
@MarkM dont go flashing your bling, you might get beaten up :P
 
pauska
pauska
I don't get it.. the badge gives you access to show your own review stats? Is that so wonderful?
 
Zoredache
Zoredache
@nybergh, basically the question works out to asking for a shopping recombination. Which generally get closed.
 
MarkM
MarkM
@voretaq7 It's only a silver.
 
pauska
pauska
6:36 PM
@ChrisS: "Fetching metadata signature for 9.0-RC2 from update4.FreeBSD.org... done." om-nom-nom-nom
 
Chris S
Chris S
@pauska It's a badge, after a while it's hard to earn more. ;]
 
MikeyB
MikeyB
@nybergh Try to organize the question better and isolate the exact question you're asking and cut out irrelevant details. It reads very much like a stream of consciousness.
 
MarkM
MarkM
@pauska Wait, are you talking about Strunk & White or Reviewer?
 
pauska
pauska
@nybergh: Don't take it the wrong way, sysadmins are just negative in nature.. we downvote more than we upvote (sadly)
 
Chris S
Chris S
@pauska You're not building from source? Ick.
 
MarkM
MarkM
6:37 PM
Strunk & White shows your own review stats and is a prerequisite to getting Reviewer.
Reviewer doesn't unlock anything except the shiny silver badge. My precious.
 
pauska
pauska
@ChrisS that would be a negative. freebsd-update.
 
MikeyB
MikeyB
@nybergh It's not a terrible question… but it's quite open ended and it's not clear what the specific problem you're trying to solve it.
 
ewwhite
ewwhite
I don't think the ml350 was a bad question.
 
Chris S
Chris S
@pauska But, but, but... you're system will be 0.0045% slower if you don't use the -O2 flag!!
 
nybergh
nybergh
@MikeyB K i'll try make it clearer and less chatty
 
pauska
pauska
6:38 PM
@MarkM so it's just a shiny medal then. I guess I fell of the price bandwagon a long time ago.. buddies always chase after achievments in every single game we play, while I don't care at all..
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
@MarkM silver badges are hard to get on SF
we're not stackoverflow after all :)
 
pauska
pauska
@ChrisS "I don't always use Gentoo Linux. But when I do - I don't have any fucking clue what I'm doing."
 
MarkM
MarkM
BUT ITS A SILVER BADGE
 
Scott Pack
Scott Pack
@ChrisS That's why I use -O99999
 
MarkM
MarkM
@pauska Haha, That was mine!
 
ewwhite
ewwhite
6:39 PM
@nybergh the issue with the server chassis should be solvable.
 
pauska
pauska
@MarkM I love you deep heartly.
 
ewwhite
ewwhite
I am checking my sources
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
@ScottPack @ChrisS Real men use -ONlogN :-)
 
Scott Pack
Scott Pack
@voretaq7 Cock :)
 
Ward
Ward
@ChrisS I think you're right, but I don't get it, external constraints can often make it necessary to do something ugly. Doesn't make it a bad question.
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
6:40 PM
As Requested.
 
Chris S
Chris S
@voretaq7 Kernel borks if you build with anything higher than -O2 last I tried.
 
MikeyB
MikeyB
@Ward It'd be nice if the solution was always "Toss out what you're trying to use and buy the correct hardware." We all know how often that actually is possible.
 
Zoredache
Zoredache
@nybergh btw, there many different esata enclosures similar to the 'MicroStorage' box. Search around a bit.
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
@ChrisS -Os used to work
still does on FreeBSD I think but not sure about with clang/llvm
 
Chris S
Chris S
@Ward I didn't downvote it, so I don't have any real insight to why other than my vague assumptions. =]
@voretaq7 -Os ⊂ -O2
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
6:42 PM
@ChrisS Is it a proper subset? I thought there were some space-crunches that weren't part of -O2
mind you I don't spend much time looking at GCC's internals
I like to keep my lunch in my stomach :)
 
Chris S
Chris S
Last time I looked at GCC, yes, it's a subset of -O2.
I've switching my projects to CLANG, haven't dived into it's optimizations much yet....
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
if the last time you looked was post-4.0 your knowledge is more recent than mine :)
 
nybergh
nybergh
@ewwhite Yeah, I noticed your answer, thanks. I actually was told this wasn't true when I asked the reseller about a spare part which was mentioned in the manual though. Working part time with too many projects, haven't had time to think about this server snafu for some time. I think I'll explore this option as well as the other enclosures option mentioned by @Zoredache
 
Chris S
Chris S
@voretaq7 Just looked for 4.2.1 and you are correct. -Os is most of -O2 plus some other size reducing opts.
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
cool, my outdated knowledge is accurate!
::updates knowledge cache with new version number, then proceeds to ignore useless factoid as FreeBSD is ditching GCC::
 
MarkM
MarkM
6:46 PM
@nybergh Why isn't returning the server an option?
 
nybergh
nybergh
@MarkM Well I'm glad you asked :D It was ordered by my boss in a haste before the summer holidays to get a big order in to the reseller for discounts
And it stood unopened in a box for months way past the return date
 
Shads0
Shads0
Then the simple solution is to place the paperweight on your boss' desk with a note saying "HERP DERP"
 
MarkM
MarkM
@nybergh You should just fire your boss. He sounds dumb.
 
nybergh
nybergh
The other discounted items were by the way core2duo macbook airs which became obsolete over the summer holidays. These were unopened int their boxes as the i5 macbook airs were announced. I've had my fair share of facepalm moments this fall.
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
@nybergh . . . what field do you work in?
 
nybergh
nybergh
6:52 PM
@MarkM @voretaq7 my boss is actually good at what he does, as in being a managing producer a cultural centre
the IT part just gets hilarious sometimes
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
@nybergh . . . Le Sigh
 
MarkM
MarkM
^ What he said
42 secs ago, by voretaq7
@nybergh . . . Le Sigh
 
Rob Moir
Rob Moir
Lé sigh
 
nybergh
nybergh
20-30 ppl working with separately funded projects in one space gets pretty intense from an IT budgeting perspective
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
Why do people with no IT background or skill attempt to meddle in things which they do not understand?
Back in the good old days when people meddled with the wizards they got turned into newts. NEWTS!
I suppose the equivalent punishment today would be... idunno... replace their workstation with a Commodore PET.
 
pauska
pauska
6:55 PM
The life of IT: Getting nothing but mouthful's from users, and having bosses without any real IT knowledge
Just get used to it and work around it.. there is really no other way :)
 
Chris S
Chris S
@nybergh 511784-001 = 6 LFF Cage for that Server. You'd also need the 487936-B21 2 LFF Cage to get all 8 drives in there. The latter is easy to come by, the first is actually a replacement part only, so it might be tougher to find (any you may need additional parts to install it; I don't know).
 
Rob Moir
Rob Moir
yes indeed
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
FIELD CIRCUS POWERS :: ACTIVATE!
Form of: Drunk dude with a screwdriver who will totally destroy your system!
 
nybergh
nybergh
but hey, luckily we live now and not in 2005. we're just the pont where we need collaboration tools. I can get them google apps instead of exchange and some horrible sharepoint intranet
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
@nybergh sharepoint is still around.
Don't say its name too loudly.
 
MarkM
MarkM
6:56 PM
@Chopper3 Might have an inside scoop into the SFF to LFF conversion of an HP box. He seems to know everyone that's ever worked at HP. Ever.
 
Rob Moir
Rob Moir
yep why use microsoft's horrible when there's google horrible out there instead.
 
nybergh
nybergh
@voretaq7 Yeah, but Google Apps is too. Lucklily
 
Rob Moir
Rob Moir
suckage is still suckage no matter what the logo
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
doesn't help me -- I work in healthcare.
:quietly sobs in the corner:
 
Chris S
Chris S
@nybergh Found the backplane for the 6 Drive Cage, it's separate: 551787-001
 
nybergh
nybergh
6:57 PM
@RobMoir Well less horrible, less expensive and absolutely nothing to manage for someone who pretends he is a part-time IT consultant
like me
 
pauska
pauska
google apps isnt too bad when it comes to collaboration
and hey - exchange works just fine if you know what you're doing (as in not being a gentoo linux fan)
:)
 
nybergh
nybergh
@ChrisS Oh man thanks.
 
Rob Moir
Rob Moir
i dunno, from where I'm sitting using google apps instead of the MS tools is at best "hey, it's great, you only have to put one ball in the meat grinder".

Sure, that's 50% better than having to put both in there, but it kinda misses the point that no one really want to put *any* part of themselves through the meatgrinder in the first place.
 
pauska
pauska
ok, enough concrete nightmares for one day, im going home.. later chaps
 
Rob Moir
Rob Moir
os/2 is the answer
 
nybergh
nybergh
6:59 PM
Some frustrated IT dude I got drunk with last summer said something about everything within exchange happing over e-mail. Is this true?
 
Rob Moir
Rob Moir
cya @pauska
 
Chris S
Chris S
Still screwed up that part number.... 511787-001. Must be time to go home.
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
@RobMoir The question is "How do I put all my man parts in the meat grinder?"
2
 
Rob Moir
Rob Moir
google's tools and microsoft sharepoint are both the best advert for lotus notes on os/2 I've ever seen. And lotus notes and OS/2 are two of the things I hate the most about working in IT
 
MarkM
MarkM
@pauska That line from TomO's question about not wanting to "Roll my own kernel, or any of that other black magic voodoo shit" was hilarious.
 
Rob Moir
Rob Moir
7:01 PM
still, you know what they say, all hardware sucks, all software sucks.
 
nybergh
nybergh
@RobMoir Isn't the notes server backend pretty solid?
Or, I've heard that it should be from another planet than Exchange performance wise
 
Rob Moir
Rob Moir
Yes. As is sharepoint's and Exchange's. As is Google's. But none of those products are exactly fun to use
 
MarkM
MarkM
I'm going to kill someone. The Exchange guys are supposed to be "testing" upgrades from Exchange 2007 to 2010, but my Outlook client just randomly popped up a dialog box saying that the certificate on a server is invalid. In fact, it's the certificate on ONE OF THE TEST SERVERS.
Why the fuck are they 1) testing this in production. 2) Fucking with my shit.
 
Rob Moir
Rob Moir
their idea of test is "lets migrate the whole IT department and see what breaks"
 
MarkM
MarkM
The thing is, my mailbox and everything else are still on the old servers
Which are in a different forest
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
7:08 PM
@MarkM PERFECT!
No email? NO PROBLEMS.
 
MikeyB
MikeyB
@voretaq7 The pickle slicer!
 
freiheit
freiheit
@MarkM Just turn off all the Exchange servers. that will fix it
 
MarkM
MarkM
@freiheit I don't even want to go anywhere near Exchange right about now.
 
freiheit
freiheit
@MarkM Is there a big red shiny candy-like button in the room the Exchange servers are in? Maybe pushing that would fix it.
 
Christian Stahl
Christian Stahl
Hi all, just want say hello! My first time at the stackexchange chatt!
 
freiheit
freiheit
7:12 PM
►
2
 
Christian Stahl
Christian Stahl
Exchange nerds?
 
Scott Pack
Scott Pack
@ChristianStahl Well, you're half right.
 
Christian Stahl
Christian Stahl
Why just half?
 
Scott Pack
Scott Pack
We all don't deal with Exchange.
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
@freiheit "Due to popular demand the EPO switches have been replaced by giant degaussers built into the datacenter walls and renamed History Eraser Buttons"
 
Zoredache
Zoredache
7:13 PM
the top half
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
@ChristianStahl Because Exchange is Satan's butthole.
 
Scott Pack
Scott Pack
@Zoredache You mean to tell me you don't want a mermaid with the bottom half of a lady and the top half of a fish?
 
Christian Stahl
Christian Stahl
Thats so? What do you think about SharePoint then?
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
@ChristianStahl scroll up.
 
freiheit
freiheit
It's quite likely that everybody in here has had enough exposure to Exchange to have an opinion on it, though...
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
7:14 PM
@freiheit It's great. Someone else is responsible for it and I never have to hear about it - right?
 
nybergh
nybergh
@voretaq7 But I still would have to use some exchange client
 
freiheit
freiheit
@voretaq7 Somehow when we went from a unix-based mail system that I ran to an Exchange mail system that other people run it created work for me and is overall more of a pain...
 
Christian Stahl
Christian Stahl
hehe, ok - don't really agree with you @voretag7 - but thats ok :-)
 
Zoredache
Zoredache
@ScottPack, I'll have to think about that. I think there may be advantages in either direction.
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
@nybergh not true! Exchange can be forced to speak Satan's own SMTP and God's own IMAP.
 
Peter Grace
Peter Grace
7:15 PM
FWIW, decade-long unix user and I freakin' loved adminning exchange 2010.
 
Scott Pack
Scott Pack
@Zoredache I suppose you could always get into polygamy, but that seems overly burdensome.
 
freiheit
freiheit
@nybergh Apple Mail+Calendar+Contacts works ok, as does Thunderbird. Except when you cancel other people's meetings. The web access is not too painful
 
Chopper3
Chopper3
@MarkM I did know about the LFF/SFF thing btw :)
 
Christian Stahl
Christian Stahl
I work with an Exchange MVP and he says Exchange is more like a gift from the gods
 
nybergh
nybergh
@voretaq7 depends on the use and corporate policies. Outlook and a single threaded java based ticketing suite I used at a major IT services company almost burned me out on their own :P
 
freiheit
freiheit
7:17 PM
@voretaq7 Except other Exchange users expect to be able to schedule meetings with you...
 
Chris S
Chris S
@freiheit I had forgotten just how messed up that show was.
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
My only true complaints against Exchange is its liberal violation of the SMTP RFCs, and its utter shit bounce/NDR messages
 
nybergh
nybergh
As in, most people who use Outlook aren't allowed to seek a replacement over standard protocols. Or wouldn't get all the needed features using some other client
 
MarkM
MarkM
Too snarky?
 
Chris S
Chris S
@ChristianStahl Exchange is the most f-ed up MTA I know.
 
MarkM
MarkM
7:18 PM
 
Chris S
Chris S
Maybe that's not saying a lot, since I don't know too many MTAs that well.. But it's still the worst.
 
MarkM
MarkM
Is oneboxing broken?
 
freiheit
freiheit
@ChrisS "shiny button! a jolly candy-like button!"
 
Aaron
Aaron
-1
Q: How can i check what's slowing down my network?

I just made my company buy a brand new NAS (raid 0) system to have a disk with fast and shared access to our data on our private network. It s a very simple 2 disk system but if i understood well, this system should be able to read and write arround 2x times faster than a normal disk (so i could ...

networking raid nas
 
Christian Stahl
Christian Stahl
People: Do we got endusers for our sins?
 
Aaron
Aaron
7:19 PM
@MarkM, no!
 
MikeyB
MikeyB
@Aaron "You do know that in "raid 0", the "0" represents the amount of data you will be able to recover when a drive fails, right? – Greg Hewgill 1 hour ago" ← he wins
 
MarkM
MarkM
@Aaron It won't let me onebox my answer to that question
 
Chris S
Chris S
@MarkM I'd rate it about 0.05 TTs
 
MarkM
MarkM
Haha
 
freiheit
freiheit
@Aaron Why can't we vote to send questions back to SO? ;)
 
MarkM
MarkM
7:21 PM
Should I have told him that my smartphone can write at 40MB/s?
 
Aaron
Aaron
@MarkM, you are correct
@freiheit, bomb it from orbit, it's the only way to be sure
 
MarkM
MarkM
It's a bad question, but I don't think it requires close votes.
 
Chris S
Chris S
@MarkM If you're using the "link" link from the Q, that returns a 301, which will not onebox... You have to deref it first an post the actual link.
 
MarkM
MarkM
I see too many people confusing B with b
 
Aaron
Aaron
deref?
 
MarkM
MarkM
7:22 PM
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A: How can i check what's slowing down my network?

MarkMYou are confusing your units. M = mega m = milli B = byte b = bit When referring to disk usage, we measure throughput in megabytes per second, or MB/s. Notice the capital M for mega and the capital B for bytes. When referring to network performance, we measure throughput in megabits per secon...

 
Christian Stahl
Christian Stahl
Thanks for dropping by, a cool chat indeed - see you
 
MarkM
MarkM
Ahhh
 
Chris S
Chris S
@Aaron You don't program do you? Deref is short for Dereference, the original link is a reference, by way of a 301 redirect, therefor dereferencing the link yields a different link. =]
 
MarkM
MarkM
I'm voting to reopen that.
The big B little b thing is something I've had to explain one too many times.
 
Aaron
Aaron
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Chris S
Chris S
7:26 PM
At least in protected mode it throws a segfault and doesn't just wander into the grass.
 
MikeyB
MikeyB
@MarkM Ought to just close it as a dupe:
 
Aaron
Aaron
That one could use a better punch line, something about recusion, but I can't come up with the right punch line
 
MikeyB
MikeyB
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Q: Diagnosing the slow performance of my NAS?

mazzzzzI recently built a NAS box on top of ubuntu server. I have an average transfer of about 10mb/sec over gigabit wire to my computer. I was hoping you guys could give recommendations on how to pinpoint where the bottleneck is in this system. To my knowledge the router is only rated at 100mb/sec, ...

networking nas bottleneck
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
@Aaron ^^
 
Aaron
Aaron
nah
too obvious
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
7:28 PM
Dos Equis Guy would never segfault
 
MikeyB
MikeyB
@MarkM Tell people to get a faster network as 0.001 bits per second just won't cut it.
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
ok, how about...
 
Aaron
Aaron
... but when I do, I make sure to "blank" all the references
 
MarkM
MarkM
@MikeyB hahaha, right.
 
Holocryptic
Holocryptic
Nerds
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
7:29 PM
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also
I just made a discovery
not sure how terrible it is
if you put a # in a MemeGenerator caption the rest of the caption disappears.
methinks they're making a shell call and not doing escapeshellcommand() or equivalent...
 
Aaron
Aaron
put some bobby tables in there
 
MikeyB
MikeyB
@voretaq7 Do semicolons show up?
 
Aaron
Aaron
I actually do like that last one better
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
@MikeyB yeah I tried that next.
I'm not sure what their back-end is
 
pauska
pauska
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voretaq7
voretaq7
7:31 PM
and I'm not motivated enough to #-newline-[something]
 
pauska
pauska
ok, now I'm really going home.
 
MarkM
MarkM
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
@MarkM including the rm -®f meme?
 
MarkM
MarkM
I saved it to my desktop. You're good to go.
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
bah, it's just their javascript
that worked.
(and yeah I just used my back button, I'm fucking lazy.)
 
freiheit
freiheit
7:33 PM
Seems like it's just the preview that doesn't like #
 
Holocryptic
Holocryptic
 
MikeyB
MikeyB
Their unicode support is rather lacking :(memegenerator.net/cache/instances/400x/11/11318/11590551.jpg
 
Holocryptic
Holocryptic
link not related
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
@MikeyB yeah, the stuff I typed was ˙∆˚©¥øˆ´ but it got all mangled into the latin-1 charset
I think they do encoding selection (with those lame flags) rather than proper unicode.
 
MikeyB
MikeyB
@voretaq7 Works for me. Fix your browser :p
 
Chris S
Chris S
7:39 PM
@MikeyB Was that last box supposed to be the Unicode character for a black hole?
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
@MikeyB works for my browser, not for the meme generator.
 
MikeyB
MikeyB
@ChrisS No, it was 💩
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
(those weren't the exact characters)
 
MikeyB
MikeyB
@voretaq7 Ah, well the problem report was erroneous then :p
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
@MikeyB of course it was. I'm LAZY!
and when it comes to memegenerator.net I'm a user. I flail on the keyboard and try to avoid wetting myself!
 
MikeyB
MikeyB
7:48 PM
@MarkM We need a better title for that question. Perhaps "Why do I only get 10MBps performance on my NAS?"
 
MarkM
MarkM
@MikeyB I was thinking that too, but I'm not sure about that title.
 
MikeyB
MikeyB
@MarkM Better than "what's slowing down my network" :/ But not perfect, yes. Hence the crowdsourcing.
 
MarkM
MarkM
What about something like "Not getting expected performance from 100Mbps Ethernet network."
I feel like this answer is my only legit shot at getting Reversal
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
@MarkM pfft, you're totally gaming the badge :P
 
MarkM
MarkM
:D
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
7:55 PM
re: titles, if we're going to make this the bandwidth/units question let's change the title appropriately - "My 100Mbps network is only giving me 10MBps performance - why?"
 
MarkM
MarkM
@voretaq7 I just edited the title. Feel free to muck with it more.
 
MikeyB
MikeyB
@MarkM I do like that one
 
Chris S
Chris S
@MarkM Yep, second that one.
 
MikeyB
MikeyB
@voretaq7 That assumes whomever's searching for it knows the difference between the units. And if he does, he doesn't need to ask.
 
Chris S
Chris S
Might want to toss NAS in there somewhere though, or "storage"
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
7:59 PM
@MikeyB I assume they're not going to know the difference between the units (they're expecting 100MBps because the network is 100Mbps - and capitalization doesn't count right?) - we'll explain that inside.
 
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