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12:07 AM
Most likely. He's an asshole like that.
 
 
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3:47 AM
posted on November 21, 2011 by SysAdmin1138

A friend of mine is going through some frustrating medical crap. And while reading her latest post about her experiences, she expressed a sentiment similar to this (wording changed to foil googling):It drives me crazy. I get that these people have been there, and done that. But when you come there with something that isn't common, sometimes it just gets ignored.Um... guilty.As a technical suppo

 
 
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5:11 AM
Spammer, flag away
 
5:27 AM
@RobertMoir God, I'll never get those last 6 or 7 minutes of my life back... I never paid attention to any of the Rebecca Black comments here (Ponies are so much better), and now I wish I'd continued to ignore them. She's awful.
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8:08 AM
G'day
 
Hey
I think I figured out why I hate mondays.
It's that massive stack of email in my inbox that has accumulated over the weekend.
 
8:24 AM
Hi
 
8:56 AM
hi
 
morning
forefront tmg (isa server) is probably the worst microsoft product i've ever touched
how fucking drunk were the people designing that gui....
we have two UAG servers (wich then again relies on TMG), and those two servers are the only ones who can't talk to our NAS
I can find the mac address of the NAS in their arp table, so this is a layer3 problem.. but where!!!!
 
@ward the rebecca black stuff is rough
@pauska TMG is a right pain in the neck
 
Yeah, I thought Dynamics was bad, but when I saw forefront I saw it wasn't the worst :)
 
I think its fundamentally a good product but the UI... I think they've tried to make it all things to all people and have just ended up making it equally difficult for everyone to use, whatever you're trying to do. At the end of the day, sitting down working stuff like that out is my job and I have the time to do it, but all those 1-person IT shops that have got TMG and need to get it going while juggling 500 other things all at once must be going nuts
 
9:15 AM
need more weekend
 
well, we're a 2-person shop when it comes to IT operations, and we're pulling our hair out
it's next to impossible to understand the logic of this POS software, especially when you come from the land of cisco asa
 
I get on with it ok but then I'm comfortable with ISA. Even so, it does seem to make everything harder work than it needs to be
That's what gets me about it. I understand that some things are difficult to perform because they are functions that aren't performed very often or are just inherently difficult to perform. But the TMG interface makes doing the simplest things difficult at times
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Q: Is it a good idea to sync backups from win server 2008 with Live Mesh

nLLI've read at http://haacked.com/archive/2011/11/19/specs-for-haacked-com.aspx that Phil Haack uses MS Live Mesh to synch some backups to his home pc. Aside from the 2GB single file size limit, is it good idea to do it on a busy web server?

^ I have not the words
 
9:32 AM
wince that seems...a bad idea.
 
yep. As I said on the question, where's the guaranteed level of service from MS
(or dropbox or whoever)... They're all cool tools for home use and all, but if you ring up Microsoft and tell them you've lost important website data because of a live mesh outage they're gonna laugh at you
 
Is it just me or is this just completely wrong
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A: Should I use my ISP's DNS, or Google's 8.8.8.8?

SimonJGreenThe blog on this ISPs site has a pretty good explanation on why not to use Google's DNS servers: http://www.wirehive.net/blog/2/why-not-to-use-google-s-dns-and-similar

(the link in the answer)
This was true, in the beginning, but Akamai (and other CDN) now test on the IP, now?
just until afasterinternet.com comes?
 
I don't know to be honest
 
yes, that's literally bollocks, walls of shit
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9:49 AM
Also, he works for the company that wrote the blog post. FLAG AS SPAM TEIM.
 
@tombull89 Hadn't noticed
 
Oh, wait. Choppers on it.
 
Wirehive is a provider of bespoke virtual infrastructure solutions. So...what would you say they actually do?
 
Rebranding probably
 
10:19 AM
cooking for a family of vegetarians this coming saturday, any ideas what I can cook?
 
10:31 AM
@Chopper3 vegetarian or vegan ?
 
vegetarian
 
Just had a voicemail left on my phone...don't know who it was from, just a "help" in a small voice, then the sound of them putting the phone down...I herp 'derped.
Maybe the phone server is becoming sentinent...
 
what sort of stuff do they like?
 
thanks but I hate goats cheese
 
t wasn't the one I wanted anyway as it has bacon in too
what about a chilli ?
 
10:44 AM
yeah maybe, spotted a mushroom and spinach lasagna that looks nice
@DJPon3 white wine mostly :)
 
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Q: What can I expect by way of realistic performance from a MS SQL Server 2008 database remotely hosted, users per second?

PaulDecemberWhat can I expect by way of realistic performance from a MS SQL Server 2008 database remotely hosted? The server hosting company is reputable and gets high marks--it is not GoDaddy but unless somebody feels it's important I won't mention the name. They cater to programmers and so far they've be...

 
@Chopper3 where ? sounds interesting
 
vegitarian chilli can work. As can a nice veggie lasagna or pasta dish - spinich and ricotta ravioli?
 
love the new username RM :)
 
that question I posted is a big fail btw - unanswerable imho
heh, @chopper3 if i'd known I'd be stuck with it for a month I might not have been so quick to change it, but a change is still always good
 
10:53 AM
@Chopper3 I have a similar recipe to this bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/roastedvegetablelasa_77405 that works well
 
11:04 AM
what about a nice risotto, can't go wrong with risotto.
 
@DJPon3 especially if you follow the old Italian saying "Rice is born in water but must die in wine"
 
not heard that before @Iain but I can only agree with it. Not much of a wine drinker myself but it does go well with most italian food
 
@Iain Interesting :)
 
@DJPon3 I have a risotto recipe book by Valentina Harris and that's a quote from one of the dedication page
 
11:13 AM
should work well. Never tried grilling the mushrooms first myself but it sounds nice
@iain nice one, sums up the idea of a risotto perfectly I think
i like to do a mushroom ham and pea risotto which works out well but the ham ain't going to work with vegetarians, so not sure if I'd add the peas either.
 
@DJPon3 A mate of mine was a sound mixer/engineer for TV/film and the episode of Fat Tongue's show in Venice when he made a load of those risottos was the last bit of work my mate worked on before he died of a rare cancer - so odd memories looking at that recipe
 
ah... I bet.. sorry
 
not a problem, his wife has turned semi-pro at roller-derby since then - odd world isn't it
 
11:23 AM
it sure is
 
are you aware of what 'pony girls' are?
 
nope. Am I going to regret googling this
 
@DJPon3 probably
 
I'd imagine so yes
 
- blink - woah woah woah where did this sudden name change come from? I was wondering who the hell this 12k SF'er I'd not seen before was.
 
11:28 AM
See I have problems finding things in life that shock me any more, I lived in NYC and London for a long time and was a bad, bad man back then, so I'm rarely shocked, that's an understatement :)
 
You heard it here first, folks, Chopper used to be (used to?) be a bad, bad man.
 
as in someone I'd consider bad even now :)
 
spammer
 
@Chopper3: anything that has lots of taste.. lasagna with sundried tomatoes etc
 
good idea
 
11:36 AM
greek salad (without the ham) on the side for even more greatness
 
@tombull89 - just fancies a change
 
you know.. olives, feta cheese etc
roasted pine nuts are great in that salad btw
 
its intersting how we've all equated good vegitarian food with good italian food
 
thought about an indian
 
that could work too
you could go for a vegetable pie. Or a vegetarian chicken pie, if you see what I mean, depending on your feelings about quorn ;-)
 
11:53 AM
could just steak, tell them it's quorn
 
depends how good a bunch of friends they are ;-)
 
o.O @DJPon3 is Robert Moir O.o
 
@TomOConnor Yeah, took me a while to work that one out too.
 
I just thought "There can't be that many mainframe guys on SF"
 
12:09 PM
Afternoon folks
 
@DJPon3: Why the change of name? Hiding from google? :)
 
@pauska - change is as good as a rest, but yeah not having rants about work google-able is good too
@tom glad to keep y'all guessing ;-)
 
12:29 PM
@DJPon3 Finally quit the school and went out on your own, eh?
 
huh?
 
1:02 PM
Anyone here using EMC Celerra? Checkpoints are confuse meh!
 
1:17 PM
@DJPon3 Nice. I approve.
 
thought you might
 
@DJPon3 Taking up a new gig doing shows
 
I'd be great as the last act of the night. I don't mean the headline, i meant afterwards, to clear the place out
 
'sup, noobs?
 
My Son asked me today, "Dad, what music did you like growing up?" "Led Zeppelin." I replied. "Who?" He said. "Yeah I liked them too."
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@MarkM Same ol'
 
1:29 PM
@Iain I see you got the Marshal badge first
Congratulations :)
 
You mean reviewer, I thought @Iain had Marshal first
 
@Shads0 Ah, jeah, sorry
Wrong @
 
Microsoft DPM doesn't support NDMP backups :((((((
 
@BartDeVos err yeah !
 
@pauska Not entirely sure what that is, but that doesn't surprise me
 
1:36 PM
Interesting. So I got the Stunk&White badge last night so that I could see my reviewer stats. All of my stats started out at zero, even though I had been using the feature for a few days.
 
@Holocryptic backup of NAS devices (NetApp, EMC)
 
So is Strunk&White a pre-req to start working towards reviewer?
 
@ScottPack S&W unlocks Reviewer blog.stackoverflow.com
 
@pauska Ah, I think I see. Yes, well, if you're lucky MSFT will jump on the band wagon in another 5 years or so.
 
1:40 PM
@Iain Crap. close.
 
@Iain To me that implies that one can not be awarded Reviewer until one receives S&W. That is, you can still make progress towards Reviewer, but having S&W is one of the preconditions for the badge.
 
@pauska wow - that does suck indeed, it's not like it's the newest or most complex protocol every created
 
Crap because there's zero effort in the question... Plz send teh codez.
 
@jscott I agree
 
@Iain The behavior that I saw shows that Reviewer tracking doesn't even begin until you have S&W.
Damn dirty developers.
 
1:42 PM
@ScottPack that's what it looks like
but as I already had S&W/Copy Editor I have only ever seen the stats
 
@Iain I was already pretty close, my plan was to just pick up C&W on the way.
 
Snark! vsan versus vlan!
kidding...
 
@Chopper3 It's a bit weird indeed.. it can't even do CIFS backup, it needs a agent installed on every target server/client..
it's a shame, because it's a great product :(
 
that guy with the "SQL users per second" question says they're disappointed their question was closed. Not sure what else they expected when they said they didn't want to hear the one answer it might have been possible to give...
 
Q: "How can we process speech signal for developing a speech interactive system ? We are looking for an algorithm."
A: "Run it through a library to do the recognition and respond to the result."
 
1:50 PM
@DJPon3 which one?
 
@Iain Forget what I said. Now, as I go through the posts, when I find one that I had already acted upon my counts go up. It's as if the system is figuring out that yes, I really did already review and act on that post.
 
"Our computers are down. Internet is down. OSI is down. Outlook is disconnected. Happy Monday." -- My life.
 
@Shads0 I got reviewer first
:D
I put a huge dent in copy editor along the way too
 
@Holocryptic welcome to my world. We had a SAN fail this morning
 
@MikeyB +1... opps, question was closed... Sorry. :)
@Holocryptic The Internet is down! crap I gotta tell someone...
 
1:57 PM
@jscott Blackberry still works, so wonders still never cease.
 
@Holocryptic Ugh, is the www browser on your BB still as horrible as it was on the Curve?
 
@jscott Probably. I wouldn't know. I ditched my BB for a Droid Bionic. Haven't looked back.
@DJPon3 sucks to be him. I hate when reality bites like that.
 
oh my give a fsck-o-meter reads zero too...
 
I need some weird shaped picture frames. Anyone know a place that I can get them online that's not going to charge me three blowjobs and a twisty for one?
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2:12 PM
they sure have strange currency where you live
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Sure, but I'll need 2 twisties and a rim job before i tell you
 
@MarkM I'll try to remember to ask the ole lady when she comes online.
 
@DJPon3 Tell me about it :/
@ScottPack Thanks. 19x12.5 isn't that easy to find
I suppose I could always buy a larger frame and have a matte cut, but then we get into bj territory at a lot of places
 
@KennyRasschaert Right, how many are 19 x 12.5 though?
Adding the dimensions to the end of that search gives nada
 
2:24 PM
@MarkM You can cut your own mat board like a real man...
 
Did this question go on for too long? What's the best way to end it?
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A: Slow parity initialization of RAID-5 array on HP Smart Array P411 controller

ewwhiteWell, it's a little odd. I don't see many cases of mixing HP Smart Array controllers and Dell servers. Either way, the parity initialization doesn't begin until I/O is started on the new logical drive. May I ask how you're monitoring this? Via the HP Array Configuration Utility webpage? Perhaps t...

 
@voretaq7 Nah
Then I'd be doing something "artsy" and next think you know I'll be drinking PBR and wearing highwaters. I have a reputation to protect.
 
Nothing wrong with PBR...
 
@ewwhite ...if you're spraying it over the crowd at a concert.
fixed that for you.
 
@ewwhite I've been known to drink a $2 pounder here and there. But I prefer my beer without the urine taste most of the time.
 
2:29 PM
I used to work next door to the headquarters. They threw great office parties!
 
I bet
 
@ewwhite just walk away
 
@iain - It's hard to do so. I don't know what the problem is, but it's silly to keep going back and forth.
 
Fuck that guy. He put an HP controller in a Dell server. He deserves whatever black hole that rips in his datacenter.
 
2:40 PM
@ewwhite it's hard to walk away but sometime you just got to do it. He's not paying you
 
@MarkM What's worse is he said it's nothing out of the ordinary
 
I mean, I don't enjoy calling support as much as the next guy, but that's a nightmare. He shouldn't have a job.
 
nothing left to review - all tabs for day are empty
 
@Iain Go to /close + month view + 4x close votes.
Help clear up some of the cruft hanging around
 
@MarkM I wouldn't be al all surprised it I have voted on most of them,
 
2:43 PM
true
 
yup voted on 4/6 already
 
htop visualizing the load of a 128 core box
ME WANT
(htop.sourceforge.net -- colorful top replacement)
 
@PeterGrace That's a serious fucking workload?
 
Apparently, it's in their screenshot section
 
I have no idea how the question mark got in there.
Someone did it to trip me up, Ron Burgundy style.
 
2:52 PM
My dad would go bonkers over that box. He writes mind-bending math programs in assembler that need lots and lots of cores
 
Is that 860GB RAM in there too?
 
can someone take the ":)" out of this title? it makes my eyes bleed.
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Q: Another NGINX & PHP set up failure :)

javanoI'm trying to set up NGINX with PHP and FPM. No installation errors, NGINX and PHP-FPM are running (I can see them with "ps aux | gre nginx" and "ps aux | grep php"). HTML pages are working fine. Browsing to mysite/test.php just shows the PHP source code when I "view source" of the page though (...

 
markm: 1tb, apparently.
 
@tombull89 done, just need it approved
 
@MarkM We've had a few odd sizes made for us in the past, but she handles all that stuff.
 
2:59 PM
@tombull89 could you not do it yourself ?
 
@Iain I think we have to go back more than a month :-)
I went through the "all time" tab and found half a page I hadn't tried to get rid of yet
 
@Iain I thought anything less than 6 characters was rejected?
 
Can I get a double check on my answer here? It's about multiple forest roots. I'm 95% sure that I'm right.
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A: The difference between "new domain tree root" and "new child domain"?

MarkM Above is an example of each. There is no implicit trust between the two roots, so you would have to use a trust shortcut between the two, otherwise the forest root would always have to be queried whenever a cross-domain resource request was made.

 
Oh, @Shads0 changed the formatting as well to get it to pass.
 
herp derp
 
3:00 PM
@tombull89 erm dunno - not sure if that applies to SO/SU/SF
 
easy rep is people putting in code that looks like shit and re-format it
 
@tombull89 yeah - I approved it
 
@Iain, it does here
 
@Shads0 okidoke - didn't realise
 
@PeterGrace WTH has 128 cores?
 
3:02 PM
@voretaq7 I've run out of close votes atm
 
@MarkM I think that by virtue of saying "new domain in an existing forest", that it will have a trust link to the other domain.
@MarkM but it's one of those things that could only be proved (in my mind) with a bunch of test VM's and a few hours.
 
@MarkM "I used all my skills in MS Paint to create this diagram representation of the scenario" That made me laugh
 
Am I wrong in thinking that the question above (@MarkM had posted) the OP may have overcomplicated his setup for adding a blarg.something.com to his existing something.com domain?
I'm wondering, reading the question, if he's not mixing up DNS and AD functions.
 
@PeterGrace Right, there will be a trust between the two domains, but I thought that if it was in a new root and there wasn't a trust shortcut that the requests would have to be funneled up through the forest root and down the other tree.
I also have never ever worked in an environment set up like that, so I very well could have just made that up.
@BartSilverstrim NOT OUR PROBLEM
:D
 
@BartSilverstrim It's highly possible.
 
3:08 PM
I know it's not our problem, I was just thinking of it in case it ever came up down the road. It seemed the question was a bit overcomplicating.
I've never been a huge fan of AD once you begin getting into more complicated structures...it seems to make scaling more of a chore than it should be.
The biggest pain is when you wonder why they did XYZ and find that if you dig enough, there was a reason at one time for it to be done the way they did it... :-/
 
@BartSilverstrim There's not a lot of need for multiple domains in the same forest
 
Probably why I so rarely run into that :-)
 
Microsoft used to recommend making a forest root with just DNS servers and then making a child domain of that for production, etc etc. But now they recommend a single domain whenever possible
It's just such a clusterfuck and with modern technology like site-to-site VPN and AD Sites and Services, the whole child domain and multiple tree roots and shit is a holdover from a time when everything was shitty and sysadmins were savages.
 
@MarkM Aren't we still? Just with shinier cluebats
 
@Shads0 Hm. Good point.
 
3:12 PM
Yeah, the position microsoft's been taking lately has been one domain, and political/business seperation in OU's
 
One domain to rule them all
 
I just gotta link something I find pretty funny...
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A: Is the hand-sideways "Hollywood" style pistol shooting stance something that is/was taught as a valid technique?

Chris UpchurchHolding the pistol horizontally (the 'full homie' as it is sometimes called) is generally a lousy technique. You don't have to hold a pistol perfectly vertically to achieve accuracy, when I shoot one-handed I usually lean the pistol inboard a bit. However, once you exceed about 40 degrees of ca...

 
Gonna shoot that gun with the "Full Homie" technique
 
@MarkM MYYYY Preciiiiousssss. Multiple domainses spoilsessss itssss.
 
3:14 PM
I was told that would break your wrist
granted, i have never fired a handgun before
 
@JourneymanGeek It wouldn't be comfortable to shoot that way, that's for sure.
pretty sure it'd hurt quite a bit with my glock in .357 SIG
9mm might not be too bad.
 
someone should ask FPSRussia :P
 
I updated my answer to the child-domain question to preface it with a recommendation that he stick with a single domain unless he needs more than one.
 
Doesn't the global catalog get automatically replicated to other domain controllers in AD?
 
@BartSilverstrim Far as I know
 
3:16 PM
@BartSilverstrim Only within the same domain and only if you make that server a GC when you promote it (or if you add GC later in sites and services)
 
I was reading an article saying that other DC's have to be designated for GC replication.
 
@BartSilverstrim Does it mean that you have to tick the box during promotion that says "make this a GC"?
 
Ah, same domain it's automatic then. What use is another DC if you don't have it replicating GC information? ... Kinda defeats the purpose, I thought.
It's been so long since we had to do anything like that I thought I was imagining it.
 
@BartSilverstrim Group Policy, time sync, etc.
Everything except auth
And the Infrastructure Master of a forest shouldn't be a GC unless every single DC in the entire forest in a GC.
 
I just have the mindset of REPLICATE ALL THE THINGIES! for redundancy.
But we have a simpler network with two controllers.
 
3:25 PM
Yeah
We have 6 DCs here
They're all GCs except the one that's the infrastructure master
We don't plan on having any that aren't GCs, but just in case we ever have a need, we won't need to move the role.
 
I like the idea of being able to bash a server to bits and the network keeps running properly, whenever possible. Mainly because I like the idea of bashing servers to bits when they frustrate me. But it helps with uptime and availability for the users too.
 
3:40 PM
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Q: Windows Server 2003 with Two NICs, one WAN and one LAN

Justin ShinI have a Windows Server 2003 VM with two NICs, one that is connected to a private VLAN and one that is connected to a public-facing VLAN. I have manually assigned addresses to both connections. How can I configure Windows such that only traffic addressed to the private subnet (say, 10.5.1.0/24) w...

? Static routing?
Am I missing something?
 
@BartSilverstrim Yep
 
yep just set up a static route or yep I'm missing something?
Seemed like it was too simple to be the answer.
 
Unless the OP updates his question, I think that's the answer.
 
3:59 PM
^ Time lapse footage from the ISS in orbit.
 
@voretaq7 it's back
 

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