The Comms Room

Wesley

2:04 AM

We should band together and choose someone to endorse for FoxPro on LinkedIn.

That would be amusing.

30 people suddenly endorse @FalconMomot for FoxPro.

Falcon Momot

@Wesley I will cut you.

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Wesley

The hell is wattpad.com and why is it the 25th largest website in the US by volume

I said I was going to go run and lift, but here I am.

Oh right, I'm digesting dinner. Yeah... that's it.

@MarkHenderson Answers.com is the #1 website by monthly traffic in Australia. WTF man. You people are sick.

The #2 website is a hidden profile, so you know it's pr0n

Bob

@Wesley wat

Hmm... should I at least be glad there's no mention of Yahoo Answers in there?

Mark Henderson

@Wesley measured by who?

Wesley

@MarkHenderson Quantcast

ewwhite

2:22 AM

►

Mark Henderson

@Wesley I don't buy it

Top website would probably be ninemsn (default IE homepage) or google.com

jscott

@ewwhite At least they're driving slowly [you can see them speed up in the end] not that it makes it safe. Think it may have been chopper that posted a two wheeler vid where some guy's arm got ripped off in the wreck.

Jacob

@jscott The wheel should have been spinning...

Mark Henderson

Millenials. Sigh.

strugee

you can back up contacts, music, photos, calendars and apps, but you can't back up virginity

Mark Henderson

2:31 AM

@strugee Eh. Sex is overrated. (Said every man whose not getting any)

strugee

heh

Jacob

@MarkHenderson Your second kid will stop any action long after your wife recovers from birth

That must ~~suck~~ not be fun

@MarkHenderson Oh boy/girl?

Mark Henderson

@Jacob Grrrl

@Jacob I know. After Levi was born my wife was out of bounds until she finished breast feeding

Jacob

@MarkHenderson Let me know if you need to borrow some hardware in 16 years...

Mark Henderson

@Jacob .. what kind of hardware?

Jacob

2:37 AM

@MarkHenderson Things to scare of potential suitors?

Mark Henderson

@Jacob Oh

Nah I'm not that kind of a dad

I will teach my daughter to be frigid

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Wesley

@MarkHenderson You monster.

Jacob

@MarkHenderson I had to look that one up

Wesley

Okay, time to run like a bear is chasing me.

Jacob

@Wesley What because you'll never get his wife now you're after his daughter?!?

BigHomie

2:44 AM

@MarkHenderson don't get it

Jacob

@BigHomie One of the definitions is "abnormally averse to sexual intercourse —used especially of women "

BigHomie

@Jacob thnx, don't even wanna know how one would teach their daughter that

Jacob

@BigHomie That's @MarkHenderson 's problem

BigHomie

> Matching Quote
"Men always fall for frigid women because they put on the best show."

dictionary.reference.com/browse/frigid

Jacob

Gah I can't wait to ~~torrent~~ on University internet again.

Sooo fast

Bob

2:47 AM

o.o

Jacob

@Bob to what?

Bob

33 secs ago, by Jacob

Gah I can't wait to ~~torrent~~ on University internet again.

Jacob

@Bob VVVVVVVVVPPPPPPNNNNNN

:)

jscott

@Jacob Do the college kids these days still to DC++?

Jacob

@jscott never heard of it

Andrew

2:50 AM

@MarkHenderson does it seem fair that you should get billed for traffic stopped at your perimeter firewall?

Mark Henderson

@BigHomie Raise them catholic and layer them with guilt 50mm thick

Jacob

@Andrew The Transit provider still had to bring it to you.

Mark Henderson

@Andrew Hrm. Yes. Because your upstream provider had to carry the traffic regardless

Jacob

@MarkHenderson That doesn't work as much as you might think.

Mark Henderson

@Jacob Well I'm not catholic so it probably wouldn't work anyway

BigHomie

2:51 AM

@MarkHenderson Oh, really?

partly sfw

Andrew

@MarkHenderson so... should they be providing a firewall?

Mark Henderson

@BigHomie I've dated three girls from catholic school, and I married one of them

@Andrew If you want to pay them for it

p.s. why did you put "little" on the front of that search query?

BigHomie

@MarkHenderson I'm used to stereotypes, can't you tell?

;)

@MarkHenderson all jokes aside I have 2 myself so I hope the best for you

strugee

guys, I have a friend who thinks that you can SSH to a public IP address when you're in the private network that uses that public IP. (so you have a home network, everything's in a DMZ except one machine - he thinks you can send traffic to that machine from one of the computers in the DMZ, using the public IP)

prove 'im wrong

Jacob

@strugee NATreflection

Mark Henderson

2:55 AM

@strugee hairpin NAT as Cisco calls it

NAT Reflection as PFSense calls it

@BigHomie Thanks

And don't worry I will not raise my daughter to be frigid. I will raise her to be smart.

strugee

@Jacob aaaaand my POS router doesn't have that

Falcon Momot

@strugee perhaps you don't mean DMZ when you say DMZ?

strugee

it just has an on/off switch

Jacob

@FalconMomot DMZ on consumer router is opening all public ports to an internal IP

strugee

@FalconMomot no, I think I mean DMZ...

via NAT

BigHomie

2:58 AM

@MarkHenderson Well I'll probably tell mine what those boys really want, and probably tell them how I know

Mark Henderson

@BigHomie Yep

That will probably scare them right off boys

Jacob

@strugee What you're thinking of as DMZ isn't actually DMZ

Mark Henderson

And either turn them into nuns or lesbians. I'm OK with either.

BigHomie

@MarkHenderson Well, I don't want that

strugee

@Jacob do elaborate

Falcon Momot

2:58 AM

@Jacob yes, with no isolation at all. I know. it's terrible misuse of the term... but it sounds like the man was talking about the inside network in general.

BigHomie

lol

Mark Henderson

@FalconMomot Geezus that DMZ shit. It's not a real DMZ

It's more like a fallback port forwarding rule

strugee

honestly if someone here says I'm wrong I'm not really going to argue

Falcon Momot

@MarkHenderson it's almost the opposite of the principle :P

Mark Henderson

@strugee I wish my wife would say that

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Falcon Momot

2:59 AM

@strugee home networking stuff is made of broken.

strugee

@FalconMomot oh, of course. it's awful.

BigHomie

@MarkHenderson Have to be really careful with that

Falcon Momot

@strugee part of the reason is no configurability and term misuse ;)

strugee

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Q: My Qwest router appears to not save configuration changes. How can I fix this?

I have a Qwest router. Specifically, I have the Actiontec Q1000. When I go to the configuration page, I can navigate fine, but whenever I submit a configuration change, it refuses to save. It says "saving changes" but when the page refreshes, nothing has actually changed. How can I save changes...

router

the thing doesn't work in anything but IE6

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I cry when I use it

Ryan Ries

@Wesley Yes I did... One of my friends endorsed me for COBOL and XBOX. :P

strugee

3:01 AM

(disclaimer: you all didn't like that question)

Mark Henderson

@BigHomie huh

I don't like most of the things I read there

> You showed your daughter that you fundamentally don't trust her judgment about herself and her own feelings

OF COURSE YOU DONT TRUST HER JUDGEMENT> SHE IS !#. NO !# YEAR OLD HAS EVER MADE A GOOD CHOICE> EVER>

BigHomie

@MarkHenderson Exactly.

Mark Henderson

> You destroyed a friendship with this girl that your daughter highly valued

Tough fucking titties. She will get over it.

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BigHomie

Must be new school ~~friends~~ parents.

Mark Henderson

> Wow, you really screwed up, sorry to say, it pains me to read what you did, i had to stop a few times, hopefully I didn't miss anything important, I believe I read it all. Big issues:

EEAA

3:02 AM

amandanovaes, Florianópolis , Santa Catarina

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centos linux ubuntu webserver php tar .htaccess

Gil

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apache-2.2 centos linux php ubuntu

Are these two the same person?

Mark Henderson

Screwed up? Puhlease

BigHomie

@EEAA it's a dude

Mark Henderson

@EEAA Negative

Unless they are using a proxy

BigHomie

@MarkHenderson I'm tellin you, new school.

EEAA

@BigHomie Yup, figured that one out. :)

Mark Henderson

3:03 AM

> I wonder if your reaction to your daughter would REALLY have been the same if she'd confessed to dating a 17yo boy in an open relationship?

BigHomie

I can't hate, I get my parenting from a book too, 66 books actually lol

Mark Henderson

Yes, my reaction would be different. I would beat the shit out of any 17 year old boy who had interest in a 13 year old girl.

strugee

so you all have yet to tell me what a real DMZ is

BigHomie

@MarkHenderson I wouldn't, but I would scare him on a different path, you get arrested for that up here

strugee

is that where there's no routing at all from the un-DMZ'd host to the rest of the network?

Mark Henderson

3:05 AM

@strugee Its an area logically seperate from your internal network, where you have a deny all rule between servers inbetween your DMZ and your internal networks, and you only poke the minimum explicit holes between them that you need for functionality

Jacob

@strugee A secured network that you setup to expose external services with limited ingress to your internal network.

Mark Henderson

It means if a DMZ server is compromised, your internal network stays secure

strugee

@MarkHenderson gotcha

Mark Henderson

@BigHomie Your answer has not been well accepted

Michael Hampton

@EEAA Doubtful, but I would not be surprised if they knew each other.

Ryan Ries

3:06 AM

@strugee There's one right above Korea

Mark Henderson

@RyanRies *south korea

Ryan Ries

@MarkHenderson The real Korea

EEAA

@MichaelHampton It sure seems like they do. Too many interactions/coincidences.

BigHomie

@MarkHenderson that's the beauty of SE, net -10 votes, still net some rep, and don't have to compromise my beliefs, gotta love it

I think I got somewhere around 4 upvotes last I checked

Mark Henderson

@BigHomie I do think that the 13 year old has been manipulated by the sounds of it, but I wouldn't go as far as to say she's been deliberately turned lesbian. Kids are curious and confused at that age. It's a scary time for their brains.

strugee

3:07 AM

there's a star limit?

Ryan Ries

Day 2 of detox...

BigHomie

@MarkHenderson Oh, I didn't mean deliberately, I can't say that for sure, just the fact that it happened. She kissed a girl, got turned on, and thinks she likes girls. Slippery slope

@strugee 30

strugee

maaaaan

Mark Henderson

@BigHomie I get turned on when I kiss girls too

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BigHomie

@strugee and @MarkHenderson tell me about it

CWIDT

Mark Henderson

3:09 AM

But in seriousness, I have a friend who when I met her was in a lesbian relationship. She was 16 and by the time she was 19 that relationsip was ended and she's been on a strict guy diet ever since

BigHomie

@MarkHenderson Yeah, but some never recover, and it happens younger and younger

I knew a dude into his big brother's pr0n stash @ 8/9, he saw some pretty sick stuff at that age

Mark Henderson

@BigHomie Oh yeah I had a friend liek that too. His brother was 16 years older than him and had some pretty fucked up porn

And he got into it at about the same age

Jacob

@BigHomie Some aren't going to "recover". You can't recover from biology.

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Mark Henderson

He was a bad egg though, when we were 15 we burnt down his porch by making fire bombs out of honey jars

BigHomie

hwg

Jacob

3:13 AM

Anyhow I'm going to start P90x. It's been nice knowing ~~all~~ ~~most~~ some of you.

BigHomie

And on that note, I'm going to bed before I debate that until one of us passes out

Mark Henderson

I ahve no problems with my kid being gay. But to be getting into emotional and sexual relationships at 13? That's the real problem.

Jacob

@BigHomie It will be you.

@MarkHenderson Yeah exactly

BigHomie

@Jacob Of course it will

Scott Pack

Hell, 33 year old Scott wouldn't trust 20 year old Scott to be in an emotional relationship.

Jacob

3:15 AM

@BigHomie Besides, my argument is pretty much an abstract anyway.

Scott Pack

Or, more importantly, 33 year old Scott only trusts 23 year old Scott in emotional relationships because he made a pretty good decision.

Mark Henderson

@ScottPack 40 year old scott probably wouldn't trust 33 year old scott either

BigHomie

@Jacob I have no arguments dude, only scripture

Jacob

@ScottPack Is that when you met {wife}

@BigHomie Your beliefs aren't going to change biology. Sexuality is determined by genes.

Scott Pack

@MarkHenderson We'll see. The curve has flattened greatly.

BigHomie

3:17 AM

@Jacob Which genes are those?

@Jacob You referring to this?

Stop it

Mark Henderson

DON'T DO IT

Don't get into this discussion

Nobody will win, everyone will get angry

And y'all will just waste your energy

Jacob

@BigHomie The exact ones, I don't know, but it doesn't matter.

strugee

yes please don't

@MarkHenderson kick 'em

or something

Mark Henderson

@strugee I'm not goign to kick them

They can discuss it if they really want to

Just giving some friendly advice

Jacob

@MarkHenderson I don't want to start or win. I just want people to stop hating.

strugee

3:19 AM

yeah I know, I wouldn't kick them either. it's just so tiring to hear this argument

Scott Pack

Considering how it started there's no way it can end well. It's just..tiring.

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BigHomie

@Jacob hating on what?

Jacob

I have a death scheduled that I really need to get to. P90X....

Wesley

@MarkHenderson Trying to find context, but can't.

Jacob

@BigHomie You used the term "recover" referring to homosexuality as it was a disease. Whether it's biological(which it is), psychological, or straight up choice( which it isn't all of the time). They're about as likely to recover as I am to my brain injury which is about zero.

Journeyman Geek

3:25 AM

Oo

Jacob

If you'd like to expand this further shoot me an email.

@BigHomie theguardian.com/science/2014/feb/14/…

Wesley

@Jacob Put your Nikes on. PUMP. IT. UP. and AIR. IT. OUT.

Journeyman Geek

P90x?

Wesley

P90x is good.

Mark Henderson

27 mins ago, by BigHomie

@MarkHenderson Have to be really careful with that

Jacob

3:27 AM

@JourneymanGeek It's a workout

Wesley

Insanity is good to.

(Insanity the workout)

Jacob

@Wesley Personal experience?

BigHomie

@Jacob or we can create another chat, your choice. MDMoore313@hotmail.com

Wesley

@Jacob I looked into them all. built my own routine based on some of the things I learned just becuse I didn't want to buy anything.

Journeyman Geek

As for religion and sexuality. Meh, let people be. My best friend from pre university is a gay chinese quaker transdude

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Wesley

3:29 AM

Know plenty of people who've used them.

Scott Pack

@JourneymanGeek Your friend is a hiring managers dream.

Wesley

Whatever you do, don't do crossfit. It'll bork your body.

Jacob

@BigHomie You already have my GTalk my email is the same, I wouldn't mind another chat, but I really want to exercise first. I really do want to understand the "other" perspective though.

Wesley

I know, we've got some crossfitters here.

@Jacob Go exercise now.

@MarkHenderson Kickban @Jacob

Journeyman Geek

@scottpack would he be one minority or 4?

Wesley

3:30 AM

I'm taking a breather between couch to 5k and arm day.

Scott Pack

@JourneymanGeek Just keep checking those boxes.

Journeyman Geek

:p

Wesley

@MarkHenderson Finally bumped up to week 2, day 1. I think it's harder for me because I run on an incline on purpose, and keep at a fairly steady running pace for the duration of each interval.

Either that or I'm a wimp.

Jacob

@BigHomie Unless you'll be around in an hour or tomorrow?

Wesley

@JourneymanGeek How's family things? =/

Mark Henderson

3:32 AM

@Wesley Hah fuck th eincline. If I ever job in real life and meet a hill I will be screwed

Journeyman Geek

Better, grand out of hospital later today, and she's getting on everyone's nerves the right way :p

BigHomie

@Jacob yeah when I get to work of course. I'll gtalk you about it

Wesley

@JourneymanGeek Bah! Well that's good

Journeyman Geek

Stupid autocorrect

Wesley

@JourneymanGeek When are you coming back to Singapore?

Journeyman Geek

3:33 AM

It's gran not grand

Wesley

Also, I've seen a couple of jobs based in Singapore that had remote positions. I was really interested in them. Maybe we could be roomies if I moved! =P

Scott Pack

@JourneymanGeek Where are you now?

Journeyman Geek

Tomorrow morning

Wesley

Except one job wanted NixOS and Haskell experience, and I really didn't feel like genital torture so...

Journeyman Geek

India

Wesley

3:35 AM

@JourneymanGeek Hey, indulging in real Indian coffee while youre there?

Order double chicory for me.

Journeyman Geek

... Chicory is evil

Scott Pack

Chicory is a beautiful flower.

Journeyman Geek

We have 2 kg of narasu's special blend. Aka, the reallllllllly good stuff

Chicory is used as a thickener. Also gives mom headaches

Pity we don

Jacob

Is it bad that I just typed ip addr into a Windows command prompt?

Journeyman Geek

'T roast our own anymore
The smell is glorious

strugee

3:39 AM

@Jacob no, it means that you use a real OS

now go kill your insides

get outta here

Mark Henderson

Man I am ruling the star wall today. And not all of them are offensive!

Jacob

@MarkHenderson Not all of it :)

Mark Henderson

Oh hey @Jacob just FYI my son is with me at work atm using NetFlix over the VPN and the quality is way better than what I get at home

I HATE BIGPONDS ROUTING/PEERING

Jacob

@MarkHenderson We'll look at buying Telstra routing in LA when the traffic warrants it

Mark Henderson

@Jacob Yeah yeah

Dont spend anything until you can justify it

But the routing from your Equinix server to LA wasn't great either

Jacob

3:50 AM

@MarkHenderson Not my the routes on your island are terrible. Your government seems to have a STOP THE PACKETS policy.

Mark Henderson

@Jacob Not at all. I get great routes from work, but terrible routes from Bigpond

  1    16 ms    16 ms    15 ms  lns20.syd7.on.ii.net [150.101.199.219]
  2    16 ms    15 ms    15 ms  te3-1-120.cor2.syd6.on.ii.net [150.101.199.241]
  3   162 ms   162 ms   161 ms  ae5.br1.syd7.on.ii.net [150.101.33.50]
  4    17 ms    15 ms    17 ms  ae0.br1.syd4.on.ii.net [150.101.33.14]
  5   162 ms   163 ms   164 ms  te0-0-0-1.br1.lax1.on.ii.net [203.16.213.69]
  6   193 ms   193 ms   192 ms  gig.nlayer-la1.on.ii.net [203.16.213.58]
  7   192 ms   191 ms   192 ms  ae10-50g.cr1.lax2.us.nlayer.net [69.31.125.242]

5 hops to LA? That's about as good as it gets

Good news is that iiNet offer peering at Equinix

Which would give good bandwidth between your Sydney and LA DC's

Andrew

4:06 AM

entertainment.slashdot.org/story/14/04/23/2241209/…

Mark Henderson

omg

Thomas the Tank Engine has American voices on Netflix!

They dubbed it!

Andrew

> The guy on the left clearly did the kernel bit.
The dude in the middle has a cello and tattoo so he's clearly getting laid and therefor has never heard of Linux.
The guy on the right... well look at his hat and shoes... he's way too busy putting imitation carbon fiber parts on his Mitsubishi Lancer to have time for programming.

@MarkHenderson NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Ringo Star or bust.

Mark Henderson

@Andrew I know, right!

Andrew

List of Thomas & Friends narrators

Thomas & Friends (previously known as Thomas the Tank Engine & Friends) is a children's television series about the engines and other characters working on the railways of the Island of Sodor, and is based on The Railway Series books written by the Rev. W. Awdry. This article list all of the narrators, past and present, of the English-language version of Thomas & Friends. The role of the narrators dates back to the first series. Britt Allcroft thought it essential to convey the episode as a story that would be read from a book at home. Narrators File:Ringo Starr and a fan backstage ...

Mark Henderson

Man there are wikipedia articles on everything

Man Thomas the Tank Engine is fucking useless. He can't be bothered pulling all of his passengers so he's dumping his VIPs at random places on Sodor to lighten the load

Andrew

4:13 AM

Anyone want a /8?

Mark Henderson

@Andrew Meh. APNIC ran out years ago

Bob

@Andrew I'm more surprised Akamai apparently needs four million addresses.

Michael Hampton

4:42 AM

@Bob They're only the biggest CDN in the world.

Mark Henderson

@MichaelHampton Yeah but... 4 million?