English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room

@MattЭллен is there any other person who has come across this same problem as Monica ? cos then it might be a SE issue rather than a browser or system issue

user19161

@ShyamK There should be no space before the question mark.

user19161

@Monica May I ask if you are colour blind or eyesight deficient in some way? That might explain why you can't see the check mark.

user19161

@Monica Which browser are you using? Which version of Windows is this?

ЯegDwight

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Q: What types of software testing are there?

What are all the types of software testing that you can put in front of the word "Testing"? Here are some examples: Unit Testing Functional Testing Integration Testing Performance Testing Stress and Volume Testing White Box Testing Black Box Testing User Testing Automated Testing Regression Te...

testing qa

WTF

Monica

11:36 AM

I have no problems with eyesight, but you obviously have big problems with politness

user19161

@KitFox When did Matt become a sweetie as well? I thought only the girls were.

Shyam K

@WillHunting Grammatical mistake? is that what you mean? is it compulsory to not leave a space b4 a question mark?

user19161

@Monica Do you think I am impolite? I asked politely to try to help you.

user19161

@ShyamK Yes, there should not be a space before the question mark.

Monica

:D

Shyam K

11:41 AM

@WillHunting hmm.. I wonder why?

user19161

@ShyamK There might be a space in other languages, I don't know. But there should not be in English. I find it weird because using a space in SE chat rooms is a very common phenomenon.

user19161

@ShyamK Also, use one dot for the full stop or three for the ellipsis. Two is nonsense.

Monica

Does anyone lnow any highly rated American universities in Europe?

know*

user19161

@Monica I am not American but it really depends on what course you want to take.

Robusto

Monica, just up-arrow to edit your last post. You don't have to correct it with a *.

Monica

11:45 AM

Oh, yes I forgot

thanks, Robusto

Shyam K

@WillHunting I hope it not your personal preference that you were stating... (cos I don't care for that :P)... but if its the way English is meant to be then I shall follow your advice.

user19161

@ShyamK It is. I was not talking rubbish with you.

Monica

Or British universities

Robusto

Did you really have to make that pun? — Robin Michael yesterday

So was this person really offended by my pun?

Shyam K

@Robusto this can cause a re-ping though...

tchrist

11:46 AM

@ЯegDwight Lots of old cruft in the system. I closed it and gave it my ⅓ delete kick, too.

Robusto

@ShyamK That's life.

Monica

I mean art history course

Robusto

Up-arrow. Good job.

user19161

@Monica Ratings don't mean too much. Look at the exact course descriptions and see if they are what you want.

tchrist

@Robusto Looks like fodder for the simonster.

Monica

11:48 AM

OK I see

Shyam K

@Robusto true... but ppl over at SO chat don't like it... so I just mentioned it (no harm done)

user19161

Some universities are rated highly simply because they have nice glass buildings.

user19161

But step into a lecture and you know it is rubbish.

Monica

Oh

really?

tchrist

@ShyamK Tough noogies. Better a post without typos than a re-ping.

Monica

11:48 AM

:O

user19161

@Monica I gave you my honest opinion, no more no less.

Robusto

@ShyamK Well, they can fondle their merkins over there. This is The Incomprehensible Room. We ping often, and with relish.

Monica

You can be very nice when you try

Noah

HOwdy

tchrist

@Monica Jasper is always nice. It is one of his most redeeming qualities.

Monica

11:50 AM

Jasper?

Noah

@tchrist Jasper?

Monica

is that you?

Robusto

Huh, someone named Samarra turns out to be Nortonn:

> english.stackexchange.com/questions/80448/…

tchrist

@Robusto A new day, a new sock.

Noah

@Robusto he his your buddy:)

user19161

11:51 AM

@Monica Yes, I am the same one that talked to you in the past. Once I was Clark Kent, another time Will Hunting, sometimes just myself.

Monica

Ah

I see

user19161

But then I am also a different person. The self changes every moment.

Robusto

Some of us have more continuity than that.

Noah

@WillHunting Jasper, what the heck? Cant you just keep one name?

user19161

There is no fixed, permanent self.

Monica

11:52 AM

As Clark Kent I liked you more :D

user19161

I have become accustomed to the world hating me.

user19161

Nobody really understands me well.

Noah

@Monica Next time he would be Citizen Kane

Monica

:D

Robusto

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Q: Express a phrase as compound

I need to express this phrase as a short compound to be used as programming variable name (this phrase is in the context of a software user interface): the block showing current chatters I have the following options: Current Chatter Block Current Chatters' Block Which option would carr...

phrases expressions grammatical-number names compounds

OT. ... to be used as programming variable name ...

Shyam K

11:53 AM

Be a perfect version of yourself than an imperfect version of someone else.

tchrist

@WillHunting γνῶθι σεαυτόν

Noah

@Robusto I cant express myself to ladies

@Robusto looking for advice

Monica

I Have to go

take care all! Bye

Noah

@Robusto looking for advice

Matt Эллен

@WillHunting I'm fairly sure Kit was addressing Gigili

Noah

11:54 AM

@tchrist Έτσι μιλάτε Έλληνες;

@Monica Bye.

@Noah Seriously?

@Robusto YEP

Why do you think I would be able to assist you in this matter?

Noah

@Robusto probably look into the etymology of where girls come from :)

tchrist

11:56 AM

@Noah Όχι, μόνο υποκρινόμαστε.

Noah

@tchrist καλά

KitFox

@WillHunting I was talking to Gigili there.

user19161

@KitFox Oh, I see. The transcript is misleading as usual.

Noah

@KitFox Gigili reminds of Gurgi

Shyam K

@Noah what language is this?

ЯegDwight

11:59 AM

γόυ ανε αλλ ςτυριθ

Noah

@ShyamK Greek

Robusto

@ЯegDwight stupith?

ЯegDwight

:6020404 you speak Greek and you have to ask?

@Robusto that would be your only objection?

tchrist

@ShyamK Græcum est: non potest legi.

Robusto

@ЯegDwight I know not "stupith" ...

ЯegDwight

12:00 PM

That's because you are.

Shyam K

@ЯegDwight that is so not Greek...

ЯegDwight

@ShyamK and you know that how, if you don't even recognize Greek?

tchrist

@ShyamK Yeah, he used the wrong sigma.

Robusto

@ЯegDwight I smarth.

ЯegDwight

@tchrist exactly. That is the only error in that sentence. It was a test, and only tchrist passes. As usual.

Shyam K

12:01 PM

used Google translate on καλά :D

user19161

Is today Greek Day?

@WillHunting Nope

γες

LOL

π_π

12:03 PM

@ЯegDwight Not Greek(Google translate again)... just similar characters (I guess)

user19161

@tchrist I don't read this kind of stuff much, but I like Socrates. He seems a great man to me.

Robusto

@ЯegDwight I knew about the wrong sigma, but I figured you were making a joke and let it pass.

Noah

@ShyamK Dont trust Google Translate

KitFox

Also, trust noöne over 30.

user19161

@Noah It's the best thing when you don't already know the language.

Robusto

12:04 PM

If I catch you in an error, you usually just lie and say it was intended as a joke.

@KitFox I don't trust anyone OVER 9000.

KitFox

That too.

ЯegDwight

@Robusto lies.

user19161

@KitFox That is a very weird comment.

Noah

@Robusto over 9000 votes?

ЯegDwight

@Robusto You are the first one to whom I run whenever I have an English question. Also, the only one.

Noah

12:06 PM

@ЯegDwight means?

ЯegDwight

@Noah in Greek, please.

Noah

Do u guys live in teh same apartment?

user19161

@ЯegDwight You use whom, very rare of people to use it nowadays.

ЯegDwight

@WillHunting no way.

user19161

@ЯegDwight Anyway I was talking to Rachel in the other room and telling her how I think she will be a great contributor to ELU!

Robusto

12:07 PM

But the fact that you used a sigma that should only occur at the end of a word means nothing in a transliteration.

Matt Эллен

@Noah I live in the same apartment

user19161

It is weird that the big and small sigma look so different.

user19161

Are they even the same letter?

Noah

@MattЭллен live with Robusto?

ЯegDwight

@Robusto that's because it was not a test that only tchrist passed, but just a joke everybody was expected to ignore at best, for crying out loud.

Matt Эллен

12:08 PM

@Noah no

Robusto

@ЯegDwight See? I told you.

ЯegDwight

No you didn't.

tchrist

@ЯegDwight Now who’s doing the splainin?

Noah

@MattЭллен so?

Robusto

4 mins ago, by Robusto

@ЯegDwight I knew about the wrong sigma, but I figured you were making a joke and let it pass.

Matt Эллен

12:09 PM

Χιλλ

Robusto

See? I told you. QED.

KitFox

So there's this interesting factoid about Balrogs.

ЯegDwight

@tchrist Me. I always do. Perhaps I should just stop talking.

Matt Эллен

@Noah so?

ЯegDwight

@Robusto no quoting in this chat.

Matt Эллен

12:10 PM

@ЯegDwight oh, you're in trouble now

Robusto

24 secs ago, by ЯegDwight

@Robusto no quoting in this chat.

Noah

@MattЭллен then you live with who in the same apartment?

KitFox

*with whom

Matt Эллен

@Noah I live by myself.

ЯegDwight

3 mins ago, by Will Hunting

@ЯegDwight You use whom, very rare of people to use it nowadays.

Noah

12:10 PM

@MattЭллен can you cook?

tchrist

@MattЭллен The Fortress of Solitude has sleeping quarters for only one.

KitFox

@ЯegDwight It's good to know you are paying attention.

ЯegDwight

@Noah no flirting in this chat.

Matt Эллен

@Noah to some extent, yes

ЯegDwight

@KitFox huh?

KitFox

12:11 PM

@ЯegDwight I'm sorry; did you say something?

Matt Эллен

@tchrist also, everyone who visits asks me to turn the central heating up

ЯegDwight

Seven snowwhites.

Robusto

@tchrist It costs a quarter to sleep in those beds? Do they have MagicFingers™ too?

ЯegDwight

Maybe eight.

Noah

@ЯegDwight I cant even type your name anymore

ЯegDwight

12:12 PM

You can't even type "can't" anymore.

tchrist

@Robusto Only costs a quarter if you want to watch the movie.

ЯegDwight

Besides you were writing Greek all the time. You have all the letters.

tchrist

@ЯegDwight No, he doesn't. He uses ; for ?.

Noah

@ЯegDwight taht too... but your R is a bit over standard

tchrist

@Noah superstandard. He got it from SuperMatt.

Shyam K

12:14 PM

how do you type that backwards R?

Noah

@ЯegDwight which requires me to switch my keyboard just for your R

ЯegDwight

@ShyamK By taking a backwards И and twisting it real good.

tchrist

@ShyamK ˙əəs noʎ ʎןᴉsɐə əʇᴉnb ʻsᴉɥʇ əʞᴉן ʇᴉ ədʎʇ no⅄

Shyam K

gawd. My head hurts

Noah

@ЯegDwight and it's basically RUSSIAN

ЯegDwight

12:16 PM

Яussian.

tchrist

@Noah ya!

Matt Эллен

@ShyamK you can copy-paste from here

Shyam K

so a different keyboard then?

ЯegDwight

@MattЭллен Not if I change my name into ЖegDwight, no.

Matt Эллен

@ЯegDwight but if you did that, it would be a different chaЯacter

tchrist

12:17 PM

@ЯegDwight ˙ou ʻʇɥƃᴉʍpƃəЖ oʇuᴉ əɯɐu ʎɯ əƃuɐɥɔ I ɟᴉ ʇoИ

Wow, it reverses!

Noah

رegDwight

ЯegDwight

@ShyamK I have a standard Microsoft keyboard with German layout.

tchrist

Two lines of symmetry.

ЯegDwight

@MattЭллен you're out of your character, Дonny.

Noah

@tchrist Russian seems to be the most complicated lang i have ever seen...

ЯegDwight

12:19 PM

See more langs.

tchrist

@Noah Russian, or Cyrillic?

ЯegDwight

Cyrillic is not a lang.

Tsk tsk tsk.

Shyam K

so is it cause you guys have a different keyboard layout that you can do those things... writing in reverse, upside down etc. Or am I missing something (maybe a keyboard shortcut)?

tchrist

I know that!

Noah

@egDwight you mean LUNG :)

tchrist

12:20 PM

But did he?

Noah

@tchrist you mean the alphabets

gives up

ЯOFГMДO

Ф Ѫ

@tchrist gives up?

@tchrist you gotta be clear as a writer:)

ЯegDwight

12:22 PM

It's like seven up, except with give.

Matt Эллен

mmmmm, lemony

Noah

@ЯOFLMДO maybe seven down

tchrist

@ShyamK ˙suoᴉʇɐʇuɐɔuᴉ ןɐᴉɔəds əsəɥʇ ʍouʞ əʍ əsnɐɔəq sᴉ ʇᴉ ʻoИ

Noah

Another fucking copulative verb question. - aug 31 at 20:12 by tchrist

tchrist

macbook# echo No, it is because we know these special incantations. | leo
˙suoᴉʇɐʇuɐɔuᴉ ןɐᴉɔəds əsəɥʇ ʍouʞ əʍ əsnɐɔəq sᴉ ʇᴉ ʻoИ

Shyam K

12:23 PM

@tchrist sorcery... begone foul creature...

Matt Эллен

џ_џ

tchrist

@Noah Even the devil can quote Scripture.

Noah

@tchrist I didnt. My computer did

@tchrist do you want me to spill some soda on teh keyubard

tchrist

@Noah Looks like you already did.

Noah

How can I add ♦ to my profile name?

tchrist

12:26 PM

@Noah Good luck with that.

Noah

@tchrist no, happened once 6 months ago

@tchrist man, was I in trouble!

tchrist

It gives your posts that extra little pop they need.

Noah

@tchrist yea

Shyam K

@Noah ur put into the book of shame if you get the ♦ with your name

ЯegDwight

In order to pop you have to push first.

Shyam K

12:28 PM

^just kidding :D

Robusto

@ЯegDwight Not necessarily. You could unshift, or merely assign a value to an indexed element.

ЯegDwight

Well yes, I could do that.

user19161

Pop is a palindrome.

Shyam K

@Noah diamond mods get ♦ with their name... ЯegDwight(atleast I think it was him) said so.

ЯegDwight

@WillHunting You are not.

Think about it.

Matt Эллен

12:29 PM

ђэЦѳ лчяѕэ

user19161

I see that tchrist's words have now become scripture.

ЯegDwight

@ShyamK don't be too gullible. Of course anyone with cool stuff will tell you it's impossible to attain.

@MattЭллен no faux Serbian in this chat.

Matt Эллен

lol

user19161

@matt How are you loving your new Ubuntu?

tchrist

@ShyamK I am bgnng 2 thnk tht ppl hr do nt aprsh8 tht thy R n th Nglsh Lngj & Usj rm.

Matt Эллен

12:32 PM

I haven't tried it yet. I imagine it'll be like the ubuntu I have at work, only at home

user19161

@tchrist Whoa, this is hard to parse.

Shyam K

@ЯegDwight gullible? I never said that the diamond was impossible to attain... Did I?

user19161

@ShyamK Again, the two dots.

ЯegDwight

@ShyamK I don't know, I haven't been following your life too closely.

tchrist

macbook# echo I am beginning to think that people here do not appreciate that they are in the English Language and Usage room. | unvowel
I am bgnng 2 thnk tht ppl hr do nt aprsh8 tht thy R n th Nglsh Lngj & Usj rm.

Shyam K

12:34 PM

@WillHunting old habits die hard. Thanks :D

user19161

There should be an autosuspension in this room for making too many spelling errors.

Matt Эллен

wot iz uh spaylung errr?

user19161

@ShyamK That's what they say. Actually habits are only as strong as the underlying motivation.

ЯegDwight

@WillHunting you misspelled taking, four, and doom. You are suspended.

tchrist

waits

ЯegDwight

12:35 PM

Tom?

Matt Эллен

Thumb?

Shyam K

@WillHunting I did change that though.

ЯegDwight

The funny thing is, tchrist really is Tom waits.

tchrist

déjà lu

ЯegDwight

This room contains everything, including the known universe.

user19161

12:36 PM

No, tchrist is Perl.

ЯegDwight

Tell that to the camel.

tchrist

No, Margaret is Perl.

ЯegDwight

No, Richard is Perle.

Matt Эллен

déjà μ

user19161

No, Margaret has a pearl.

user19161

12:37 PM

Richard is Stallman.

Matt Эллен

Will is Hunting

ЯegDwight

Everyone moved on, only Richard stalled, man.

user19161

LOL

user19161

You are all nuts.

ЯegDwight

You are one nuts.

user19161

12:38 PM

The Free Software Foundation guidelines are really a bit nuts.

Matt Эллен

Richard's tall, man

tchrist

Not particularly.

ЯegDwight

@WillHunting So long as they also have bolts...

user19161

They are written such that those distros matching it are completely unusable.

user19161

For one, gnash does not work well enough to replace flash.

user19161

12:40 PM

Also, without nonfree wireless firmware, one cannot use wifi.

user19161

Also, who would use distros not containing any nonfree components or not advising people how to install them?

Matt Эллен

Ρφο!

user19161

So this software freedom thing is getting a little too extreme IMHO.

tchrist

0

Q: Proper notation for indicating the format of a date-time stamp?

Whilst updating a URL link on a fellow stackexchange site, I was confronted with the conundrum of how to indicate via an abbreviation the nature of my given date-time stamp. The svnfeed link no longer seems to work as of 04/09/2012 10:04 (GMT), use this link el-tramo.be/software/svnfeed – won...

british-english abbreviations time date

Migrate to SO?

user19161

@tchrist I think it should go to Conventions SE.

tchrist

12:43 PM

97

Etiquette

Proposed Q&A site for anyone lacking social skills wanting to find out how to react in a particular situation; about social conventions, customs, social interactions, social situations and behaviours.

Currently in definition.

user19161

Social skills are over-rated.

user19161

It is a primitive way of thinking with no real benefit to mankind.

user19161

All we need is true empathy for fellow men.

ЯegDwight

BTW, everyone following ELL, please check if any of your votes are on 11+ questions and see if you can find 5+ ones to recast them on.

user19161

But because man is too evil for that, he invents the concept of social skills.

tchrist

12:45 PM

@WillHunting That won’t do much to further the next generation.

Robusto

Bai

user19161

Bye.

user19161

Why has the subtitle of the room changed to such a long mess?

Shyam K

@tchrist the next generation is usually worse off compared to the present one.

tchrist

@ShyamK That is generally untrue.

And not my point.

ЯegDwight

12:49 PM

room topic changed to English Language & Usage: aka The Incomprehensiбle Room (no tags)

Shyam K

@tchrist really? kids here are well really screwed compared to their parents... Guess thats the case only in India (not completely convinced)

user19161

Good, that is a better subtitle.

user19161

@ShyamK Well, this is too broad a topic. Different people will think about different aspects.

tchrist

@WillHunting ᵃᵏᵃ ᵀʰᵉ ᴵⁿᶜᵒᵐᵖʳᵉʰᵉⁿˢⁱᵇˡᵉ ᴿᵒᵒᵐ

ЯegDwight

That's a super title.

tchrist

12:53 PM

Thanks, I thought it was great, too!

user19161

Also, I am not a fan of subtitles. Titles are sufficient.

ЯegDwight

Subtitles is like subtle with tits.

tchrist

Tits are never subtle.

ЯegDwight

My point.

KitFox

That's why subtle needs tits.

Otherwise, it never gets service.

user19161

12:55 PM

Also, why do books have "introduction" in their titles?

ЯegDwight

See, tits wake up Kits.

user19161

The word does not really add anything to the meaning.

tchrist

They wake up many a wifman.

ЯegDwight

@WillHunting it's a subliminal advertisement for duct tape.

KitFox

Why do boob have "introduction" in their titels?

tchrist

12:56 PM

Intro to Algebra, More Algebra, Tricky Algebra, Advanced Algebra, Number Theory.

Matt Эллен

@WillHunting "Introduction to Psychology" vs "Psychology" - quite different books

user19161

@KitFox I remember I was talking about self-service in this room.

KitFox

I try not to remember that.

user19161

@MattЭллен What I mean is, it does not really demarcate the boundaries of the contents, so one might as well omit it.

Matt Эллен

@KitFox try not thinking about large pink elephants

ЯegDwight

12:57 PM

@KitFox At least he stopped informing us of his bowel movements.

KitFox

headdesk

Matt Эллен

@WillHunting it does - it's an introduction - so it will cover a lot of stuff in little detail

ЯegDwight

@KitFox You falling asleep again? I can mention tits if you wish.

tchrist

@KitFox You mean tittles, they have tittles!

1. A small stroke or point in writing or printing.
a. Orig. rendering L. apex ‘point, tip’, applied in classical L. to any minute point or part of a letter, also to the mark over a long vowel, as á, later also to a line indicating an abbreviation. More recently applied also to the Spanish tilde or circumflex over ñ, formerly to the cedilla under ç. By extension, any stroke or tick with a pen. The literal notion of a point of a letter passed over to that of the smallest point of that which was written or prescribed. This took place already in late Heb. with the word qōts, lit. ‘thorn, prick’…

Matt Эллен

vittles? who's got my vittles

ЯegDwight

12:58 PM

Vittle, meet pot.

KitFox

I got your vittles right here. brandishes fist

Matt Эллен

@KitFox fish*

KitFox

guffaw

tchrist

Thanks you, don’t mind if I do. Brandy is delish.

Wisconsin consumes more brandy than all other states combined if you subtract out Minnesota, and Minnesota comes in a far distant second to Wisconsin.

I have no idea why.

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