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12:03 AM
@apaul I'm not sure what you're saying here, to be honest, and how it relates to what @Adamant said
 
12:18 AM
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A: RegEx match open tags except XHTML self-contained tags

bobinceYou can't parse [X]HTML with regex. Because HTML can't be parsed by regex. Regex is not a tool that can be used to correctly parse HTML. As I have answered in HTML-and-regex questions here so many times before, the use of regex will not allow you to consume HTML. Regular expressions are a tool th...

I dare you to read the whole thing.
 
12:31 AM
Anyone finished?
 
What does this have to do with IPS?
 
Just the mental degrading that it must have been to write it. Poor guy.
 
There's software that will do that automatically.
 
@Raphiel zalgo hello
^^^^^ I know
 
Please don't fill this room with random stuff.
 
 
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A J
4:54 AM
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5:41 AM
@apaul The core issue here is that the regulars are supposed to be better. Are people crossing lines and is that regrettable? Yes. But we need to all work towards civility, that includes not being hostile ourselves, even if you think the other people deserve it. It's hard to show civility when being shown none in return, but being shown none in return isn't a license to sink to the same level. Let the moderation tools deal with line crossing and remain firmly on the acceptable side
 
@AJ I don't think so... not even NAA. Bad answer maybe (no back up, not adding anything new... but not NAA or R/A IMO)
 
A J
On a second thought, it's neither.
@Zyerah o/
 
user61230
Hello!
 
Pffttt... another mod? :P
As if this room hasn't enough of those already :P
Hello!
 
user61230
5:50 AM
Pfffffft I'm just here to pretend to read words, don't worry!
 
@Zyerah Hahaha ;) I always tell people to only get worried when there's more than 10 mods in this room, at the same time..
I may have to adjust that number upwards sometime soon ;)
 
user61230
The real concern is when we all appear, suddenly, at the same time, for no obvious reason.
 
user61230
As we're wont to do.
 
@Zyerah Exactly.. or when there's new faces, ones that you've never seen among the regulars before XD
 
user61230
Ah, that's the surprise. I'm here to suspend you. I'm so sorry.
 
5:52 AM
Hahaha, I now imagine a group of about 20 moderators, just storming into random chatrooms in a coordinated way, just to scare people and laughing about it amongs themselves XD
 
user61230
This... happened, believe it or not
 
@Zyerah Do whatever you have to do ;-) We're already trying to show people that there's no favoritism in this room XD
 
user61230
I think it was April 1st, 20..16? 15?
 
A J
@Tinkeringbell I know her from Puzzling actually. :P
 
@Zyerah Sounds like a good April Fools thing :D
 
user61230
5:54 AM
It was a great idea, but I think we tried to prank RPG.SE chat or something, and all we got was warm welcomes and hellos. No one was particularly concerned. Reverse pranked.
 
@Zyerah Sounds like you had someone leak your plan XD :P
But I think that's exactly what might happen here, because there's mods popping in pretty regularly ;)
 
user61230
honestly maybe BUT... rpg.se chat is such a friendly place that I honestly wouldn't be surprised
 
Now I'm curious :P I'll go stalk a transcript sometime later today ;)
 
user61230
My memory is shaky, but I'll have to see if I can dig it up, too hahaha
 
A J
@Zyerah I haven't seen any room more frank and friendly than The Screening Room. :P 0:)
 
user61230
6:03 AM
I've never been there!
 
user61230
I wouldn't know, but I'll take your word for it
 
6:25 AM
Morning
We seem to have weathered yesterday's storm okay
 
A J
6:48 AM
@Magisch We had sand storm and then a little rain yesterday, which made mercury drop to 10 degree Celsius.
 
@IPSCommentBot ...huh
 
A J
@Mithrandir 182
:P
 
But that doesn't have a - or + in front of it.
Oh, #answer-1607
 
A J
yep
 
Okay, time to adjust that not to pick it up.
 
6:57 AM
@IPSCommentBot @Jesse, any reason for linking to that specific answer? It's not really a good one when it comes to asking people to back stuff up?
@Magisch :D on to the next one ;)
 
ideally we wouldn't have any
 
I hope so :)
 
Today's Holocaust Memorial Day
It's crazy. How does one person cause the death of 80,000,000 people? 12,000,000 of which were intentionally, systematically, slaughtered.
 
He didn't. He alone was a failed artist in austria. A lot of people caused the deaths of 80m people
To blame him alone is to pawn off the responsibility that a whole lot more then one person were actively participating or at least willingly complicit and enabling his destructive and genocidal behavior
 
Sure. He definitely was not the only one responsible. But he was the one who started the whole thing.
 
7:07 AM
There are lots of people like him today, thankfully they lack the means and support to actualize their plans
 
Not true. Less than a hundred miles kilometers away from me, last week, people had poison gas tossed into enclosed places with the intention of killing civilians... and they did.
It's not the same scale but it's the same method.
 
That's sad
 
The world still has a lot to learn.
 
A J
7:22 AM
@Mithrandir What he wanted to achieve from that genocide?
what was his purpose behind all that?
 
His goal was to essentially get rid of anyone who was Jewish, of the Romani people, disabled, or otherwise not filling his idea of perfection (the white Aryan race).
 
@AJ he thought the arian race (blond, blue eyes, tall) was superior to all else and tried to achieve a 100% arian germany
 
A J
Arian?
 
funny how he himself was not arian
who is jon ericson?
 
Community Manager at stack exchange
 
7:35 AM
(And @Magisch to be clear I don't blame Germany or the Germans as a whole for anything. I'm aware this may be a touchy subject over there.)
@Cashbee He's a CM with an interesting bit of history; before he became a mod on Biblical Hermeneutics and then hired, he about quit SE because he was disillusioned with the rep system.
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Q: The problem with extrinsic motivation

Jon EricsonTL;DR: Stack Exchange favors standard, fast, and complete answers at the expense of novel, creative, and excellent answers. This bias results directly from reputation ratings, badges and other extrinsic motivations, which form the core of the system and can not be removed. Therefor, the quality o...

 
8:01 AM
@Mithrandir very interesting read, thanks :)
 
@Tinkeringbell where are you clicking the link from? I immediately edited my misstype to the top answer
 
@IPSCommentBot I'm too busy, but that question NEEDS to be edited to remove all traces from the original (otherwise, people will answer the original)
@Jesse Ah okay ;) I just clicked the link from the chat, so I didn't really see the correction :)
 
That sounds like a better plan :)
 
thats what it links to ^
This user is trying to say that any personal anecdotes being used to back up an answer is worrying
 
8:10 AM
@Jesse Also, if you're talking about experiences, this one is good too: interpersonal.meta.stackexchange.com/q/83/1599
 
... of course im going to dispute it
 
@Jesse Yeah, but you might want to stop it at some time, and just start flagging ;) Some people come in here, thinking they can change what the community worked on for months with a single comment ;)
Just flag the stuff NLN: It's not suggesting any improvement to the post...
 
well... technically it is
although their suggested improvement would damage the post
just going to custom flag and try and get rid of it :D
 
@Jesse I flagged everything but the first 2 comments ;)
 
@Tinkeringbell sounds good to me
 
8:14 AM
Wait, everything but the first 3 and the 2 where you explain how to improve the answer
The rest is meta discussion, and has no place on main
 
my suggestion is all coated with responding to the comment so id be fine re-writing a new more clear comment
 
(It can be seen as a respone to the first comment (why downvotes?) as well)
IMO, removing the rest would not make that thread unreadable :)
 
 
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9:16 AM
0
Q: How to let my family know that I suffer from depression?

M. S. LFirst of all I come from India , from a place where depression is not at all recognized as disease. I have never met or heard a person from my place even mention the word " Depression"...Anyhow , moving on to the matter ..I really do not know if i suffer from depression or not . I wrote 2 or 3 on...

 
9:30 AM
@ExtrovertedMainMan Sounds like off topic -> needs professional help
tough to break that to OP though
 
@Magisch first of all unclear what is asked. He knows he needs professional help, but he doesn't know how to get there. can be on-topic if edited a bit
 
@Cashbee How would you edit that?
Recommendations on how to get professional help aren't IPS and that's definitely what OP needs here
You can't IPS your way out of that situation.
 
@Magisch if the body is edited to reflect the question in the title, wouldn't that be on topic? how can I let my parents know that I need a doctor, for a subject that they do not understand?
 
@Cashbee Sounds like the title is more of an accident then the body is
 
maybe, idk. that is why OP needs to edit, not us :)
 
9:37 AM
OP states: Mom:"Just don't worry sweetie, just pray to God and all your anxiety will be gone".
Meaning he already knows his parents are more or less a lost cause
unless this is about persuasion and making a case that depression is real
 
@Magisch exactly
you're answering your own questions :)
 
idle musings of a floating head
 
@Cashbee @Magisch - It looks like their combined reputation is enough to chat.
So whatever help people feel comfortable giving them, they can give in chat.
And the question can be closed without shutting down their inquiry.
 
I would not advise attempting to help someone who needs professional help in SE chat.
Leave that to the professionals.
 
@Mithrandir I have that reservation too, that’s why I mentioned whatever help people feel comfortable giving.
Maybe just a hotline or a recommendation to see a therapist, if that’s as far as one feels comfortable going.
 
9:41 AM
I'm not touching that
I'm not a licensed therapist
 
IANALT neither
 
Stack sends people to Koko.
 
@Mithrandir Is that some kind of group of licensed therapists?
Anyway, yeah, I think pointing someone in the direction of someone who can help better is an excellent idea.
 
maybe @AJ knows some indian contact point for such problems?
 
I was just addressing this: “tough to break that to OP though.” I was just saying that we don’t need to send the OP on their way with nothing. A hotline number for their appropriate country, for example.
@Cashbee That sounds good. That’s exactly what I’m talking about. :)
 
9:47 AM
A Google search turns up 1life.org.in, but I know nothing about it.
 
Actually idk if this site has this already, but given that it sounds like you get a lot of mental health questions that you’re just not equipped to deal with....
Maybe making a canonical meta reference (with vetted hotline numbers) to be linked when closing those questions would be a good idea.
Or maybe it would be a terrible idea?
 
@Adamant not really. most of them - like this one - is tightly coupled with an actual IPS question
 
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A: What's the official SE response to serious mentions of suicide or self-harm in posts?

ShokhetScroll down for updated, ready-to-use comments. I think Shog9's answer to the Meta Software Engineering question is good enough: I hate to sound callous about this, but... This isn't a support group; y'all probably aren't trained to deal with the outpouring of grief and despair of someon...

 
@Cashbee Well, naturally anything that can be edited to be on-topic, while preserving the poster’s intent, should be.
@Mithrandir That sounds sort of similar to my suggestions.
 
@Adamant the long and short of it is: don't deal with it
direct to appropriate ressources and try not to demotivate OP further if it can be helped
 
9:51 AM
@Magisch That’s pretty much exactly what I’m suggesting. :) It’s nice to see other people have already thought of it.
 
What SE does in suicide cases, and this seems similar: Close it ASAP so that nobody can answer, escalate to a CM, and have SE reach out to them, optionally leaving a comment from that meta post.
 
@Mithrandir Right. That seems like the right approach. I think leaving the comment is important, though. It might help avoid making someone feel like they wasted their time or are being dismissed.
 
@Adamant absolutely. These people sometimes ask here as a last resort. Getting your question DVed and closed only intesifies their misery. Leaving a nice comment why it was closed and where to go from here is very appropriate
 
A J
@Cashbee I actually don't. Never encountered with someone with such problems or anything.
 
@Cashbee I avoid downvoting these beyond what's necessary to enable delete voting.
 
10:01 AM
@AJ with "sometimes" I mean "theoretically sometimes". I haven't seen such a case neither yet, the closest to that would be this one
bon apetit y'all, those who have noon :)
 
I've pinged a CM, we'll see if they respond.
 
A J
@Cashbee I've been through many stuff all my life and all I have learned is to not to worry about it (but it doesn't mean not to do anything about it). I have tried what should be done with a relaxed mind. That's how I got out of those tough situations.
@Cashbee Tea break in an hour or so.
 
10:19 AM
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Q: Dealing with borderline on-topic mental health questions

StaceyReferring in particular to this one: How to let my family know that I suffer from depression? There are other questions on this site that deal with talking to family members about difficult subjects. Usually those people are lacking in some kind of interpersonal skill (or needing to establish bo...

 
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Q: Did not give enough attention to wife, now she gets it from someone else

Depressed_HubbyBackground: My wife and I have been together for about 8 years now (married for 6) and we have two gorgeous children. My wife, unfortunately, has been suffering from mild depression for quite a while, long before we even met so probably about 15 years. It comes and goes, some months she's fine a...

 
10:53 AM
nln on the last three comments here: interpersonal.stackexchange.com/a/13079
 
A J
@Magisch I'd leave your comment. :P
 
@AJ I was planning to leave it only until the three before it have been actioned
Ideally people would take the discussion to chat and leave the comment section under Monica's answer for improvements
And they're all gone
 
A J
yup
3 flags and they're gone
 
pleasantly surprised we got it under control
 
A J
11:09 AM
yup
I think you shouldn't have deleted your comment.
 
eh, it was unnecessary now the comments have been actioned
Better to keep it tidy
don't need to soak up someone's time to flag mine as nln now that it is
 
A J
lol ok
 
It was linking to chat. I don't think that giving people a less moderated space on this site to communicate about that question is the best idea.
 
Comments are not for extended discussion; this conversation has been moved to chat. Comments on answers is not an appropriate place to hash out your thoughts on racism. Take it to chat or move along. — Catija ♦ 16 hours ago
Standing moderator guidance seems to be to direct off topic discussion from this question to chat
 
11:30 AM
@ExtrovertedMainMan a Community Manager is reaching out to this user.
 
@Mithrandir Thanks mith
 
11:59 AM
in The Closet, 16 secs ago, by IPS Comment Bot
I've scanned 15387 comments
._.
 
12:25 PM
How long did it take to get 15k comments?
 
@sphennings 80 days.
 
@Mithrandir :/
 
Damn
 
@Mithrandir does it catch every new comment since 80 days, or did the script take 80 days to iterate over every comment ever written?
 
Only new comments.
 
Sid
12:33 PM
What's "possible aic"?
 
And that's not accounting for the times it's been down for hours at a time.
@Sid possible answer in comments
 
@Mithrandir impressive
 
@Philbo A normal affair is sometimes mostly a physical thing that can be worked through more easily
 
While I think that the desire to help is admirable, Richard's Rule #34 clearly warns that "Before helping, make sure you're helping". Armchair psychology can lead to very bad things
 
Part of my answer is recommending couple's counseling
 
Sid
12:46 PM
@RichardU what is Rule 1?
 
rule #34 ? I see what you did there :)
 
@sid it's "More of what does not work, does not work"
Rule 16 is "Before arguing with an idiot, first make sure he's not doing the same thing."
 
now we're hooked. tell us more, @RichardU :D
 
Sid
@Magisch that is bad...
 
can we maybe move this discussion to Trash in case op comes in? I don't think him reading this is optimal
and by "can we" i mean "can you" :)
 
12:52 PM
17 messages moved to Trash
Marking messages takes time
 
oh sry
 
@Magisch why'd you move those comments to trash, we were discussing a Q and whether or not to close it
 
Sid
Can anyone move messages to trash?
 
@RichardU I concured with Cashbee's assessment that it could be really damaging to have my being a negative nancy in here in case OP came in
I didn't want to leave messages replying to mine without context. Wrong call?
 
@Magisch nah, was just curious
 
12:56 PM
@RichardU we werent discussing about leaving this open or close it. Were we?
 
But I'll comment again, and put it in my own context. That question about the guy's wife's game addiction should be closed because it's out of scope.
 
ah, 2 comments were about how to close yes. we can continue that if you want
 
@Cashbee Yeah, it should be closed because we're not psychologists, and even if we were, it would be malpractice to offer advice over a post.
 
@Magisch want to add @Astralbee's comment that while you've never heard of it succeeding, couple's who do succeed may have kept the whole thing quiet?
also what do you mean by accusatory language in this situation? As in don't say "you caused this?"
Seems at odds with telling her how what she's already done has made the OP feel.
 
@Philbo again, it's a job for a professional.
 
1:12 PM
@Philbo It's better to talk about how something makes you feel rather then what they did
It allows saving face and a graceful out / working on the problem without admitting too much blame
 
close-voting a question as Off-Topic -> Other leaves a comment, right?
 
yes
 
@Cashbee Correct. It also enables others to select that reason as well, which will automatically upvote the comment.
There are too many comments on that question...
 
@Mithrandir oh that is a nice feature. I'm not sure though if i should do that, since i think richards comment says it already. I'm going with the flow and will just vote it as off-topic
 
@Mithrandir s/that/every
 
1:19 PM
@Magisch touché
 
@Sid Only room owners and moderators
 
I forget: are "what is the Russian etiquette for declining food when visiting people for their birthdays" type questions on topic here?
 
A J
36 messages moved to Trash
 
does such a specific etiquette exist even? but IIRC etiquette questions are on topic
 
1:27 PM
@Cashbee I don't know :P. But the cultural situation is a bit interesting.
I'm American, we're living in Israel, and these people are usually Russian or Ukrainian.
 
@Cashbee flag and disengage
Do not partake in the edit war
 
@Magisch exactly. Everyone should remember that disengaging is always an option.
2 days ago, by Mithrandir
If someone else isn't being civil flag it, disengage, and don't react. If the uncivilness doesn't have anything to be uncivil to, it can't be uncivil.
 
The worst thing you can do about someone venting off is to vent off back
An eye for an eye leaves the world blind, and tit for tat is not a justification on SE
 
@Mithrandir this is that person's only post, and he is engaging in an edit war. I suspect something is going on here.
 
i had never the intention to participate in the edit war there. I just saw it and had to cry and laugh at the same time
 
1:31 PM
@RichardU This is why you flag and let the mods deal with it
 
@RichardU ^
 
@Magisch already done.
 
We're above our paygrade now, moderating individual users and rollback wars is moderator purview
@Cashbee I know, I just wanted to make sure
 
@Mithrandir maybe don't ask what the etiquette is, but rather if there is one.
 
@Magisch I believe in alerting others as my relationship with the moderators is not the finest, but if other people see it....
 
1:32 PM
@RichardU Moderators treat flags mostly equally, but fwiw, I flagged it too
 
@Mithrandir and if there is no russian etiquette, what is the "standard" etiquette for such a case
 
I'll hold off on the question for a bit until I get my head back on.
 
@Magisch I flagged it with a long description as to what I thought was going on.
 
@Mithrandir put that on rather sooner than later. I've heard removing the head from your shoulders increases your mortality rate quite drastically
 
But good news. I got my new higher-end bike \o/
 
1:37 PM
@Mithrandir Trek?
evokes feelings / memories of ... Lance Armstrong ... ugh ...
Floyd Landis ... geez ...
 
A Specialized Pitch - beginner-level mountain bike for those starting to move onto a higher level of biking.
 
nice
 
Of course, got my grandmother to pay for it ;)
 
@Mithrandir So now you don't have to .. what was wrong with the old one again? :P
Ah, grandmothers... the special kind of ATM :P
 
@Mithrandir how exactly does "higher-end" feel? does it ... handle ... considerably better?
 
1:41 PM
@Tinkeringbell too many things to list
 
does it absorb shock way better?
 
Yeah, you mentioned you'd manage to break stuff on it, and had a few tumbles?
 
it is still a dream to be fulfilled for me -- getting a higher-end / high-end bike ... I hated my childhood bikes.
and hated my childhood skateboards.
 
I just got my bike out of the shed a few days back... I need to do something on the chain... It creaks and wakes up everyone if I cycle to the station at 6.30 AM :)
 
@D.Hutchinson Yes. It's easier to maneuver, it's much lighter, and it's got front suspension suitable for mountain biking.
@Tinkeringbell WD40
 
1:43 PM
nice ...
 
I spent an almost embarassing amount of money on my bike which I mostly just use to drive to work
 
@Mithrandir Probably ;) I'll ask dad, and he'll end up fixing it instead of teaching me XD
He still needs to teach me how to fix a flat tire. Luckily, there's google, so I already know
 
I'm also pretty sure I have 2 left hands so doing anything more then a tire change is a chore for me
 
@Magisch A good bike is important if you use it everyday!
 
This one was listed at 2395 shekel. I have a discount from the lessons I take and the guy gave me an extra discount, so in the end it was 1900.
 
1:45 PM
@Mithrandir Nice :D
(discounts are the perfect way to cheer up a Dutch person XD)
 
He also threw in a pump, pouch, water bottle, and blinkers in for free, so I think I got a nice deal ;)
 
@Mithrandir I think you got a very good deal!
 
niceeee :)
 
I'd have stopped negotiating at 2250 or something XD
 
my father just bought a new bike for 3k euro. AFTER it was reduced by 50%
 
1:47 PM
You can get a good one here for 50.
@Cashbee What special kind of bike is that?!?
 
@Cashbee does it fly?
 
@D.Hutchinson depends how fast you drive
 
haha ...
 
Unfortunately, the cleats and the shoes I was going to get were not in stock, but I was there today and they said they'd order them for me and that they'd be here next week.
@Cashbee jumping off steps is fun
 
@Tinkeringbell its a mix between city bike and racing bike
 
1:48 PM
@Mithrandir So, no practicing this week? Good.
You can spent more time here
@Cashbee Still sounds pretty expensive, but hey... is it a very good one?
 
woah ...
 
I havent seen it yet but he says its amazing
cant watch that right now, is that colin furze?
 
@Tinkeringbell lots of practicing this week. I don't have the clip in pedals to attach yet, so it's usable as is
 
@Cashbee It better be :P
 
1:49 PM
@Cashbee yup
@Cashbee nice.
 
@Mithrandir Btw, do you have a picture?
 
@Tinkeringbell soon.
 
:D I'll make sure you remember XD
 
I want a Cobra "Trouble bubble" from GI Joe
 
why do I always think of GI José when I see GI Joe? :)
 
1:53 PM
As that hoverbike shows, generating lift to achieve flight isn't so hard ... it's flight stability that is hardest :)
... and flight stability is what the Wright brothers did -- they weren't the first to achieve flight, like many seem to believe ...
 
@D.Hutchinson they were innovators, not inventors. A subtle difference, but an important one.
 
@RichardU yes, they didn't invent flight ...
 
The greatest innovators in history were the Romans though. They rarely invented a damn thing, but they had the attitude of "What the rest of the world can do, Rome can do better"
and they proved themselves right.
 
I see ...
@RichardU are you near the Jersey Shore?
 
@D.Hutchinson not any more. I was about 15 years ago, but I did a DTB and had to sell the house, or rather, force the sale
 
1:58 PM
do you know that town ... Montclair?
I see ...
 
@D.Hutchinson I'm very familiar with Montclair.
good food up there.
 
I party there every summer -- we see NFL football players in the clubs we go to; it's kinda fun ...
^ Jersey Shore , that is
 

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