Root Access

it has to be innate, it has to come from a place you can't control, to make you want to learn because you're curious/interested without having to find an external motivation

Andrey Erick

@allquixotic Maybe he's interested, just not having enough time

Boris_yo

6:07 PM

@Bob I meant if I just copy Windows 7 folder and root system files to SSD and then boot to upgrade will Media Creation tool detect copied Windows 7 install?

djsmiley2k

my problem is being interested in far too much

allquixotic

@AndreyErick ...he's unemployed; how could he not have enough time?

djsmiley2k

I want to do so much, but so little time/money

bwDraco

I'll let my career counselor know. I guess software dev is the wrong career path for me...

cat

@allquixotic Easily

djsmiley2k

6:08 PM

Thanks clippy, but no thanks

cat

I want to do so much, but so little time/money

allquixotic

@djsmiley2k It looks like you're trying to do so much, but so little time/money. Would you like help?

cat

Lol fail clippy

Bob

@Boris_yo if you want an upgrade (not clean install) you must launch the setup.exe from inside the running win7 os.

A direct boot to usb can only do clean install

bwDraco

The IT field seems to suit me best. However, June 2 still haunts me...

Bob

6:09 PM

At least that's what I remember

cat

Has Anyone Really Been Far Even as Decided to Use Even Go Want to do Look More Like?

Bob

@Boris_yo I just unplugged my old drive until the upgrade was done

Could also just change the boot order

😴😴😴

📱🛌

2

📺🛌 🔜 🏥

That last one's for you, @cat :P

(I kid, I kid)

cat

Whaa?

bwDraco

I'll see if I can start up NetBeans once more to write some code...

cat

The second one's a square, I don't understand :-(

Bob

6:14 PM

@cat "<screen> <bed> <soon =>> <hospital>"

cat

Oh it looks a lot better on my phon

e

Bob

@cat works fine on Win10 -_-

Ben N

Mostly OK on Win8.1 with Symbola

Just missing the second character on the last two messages

Bob

@BenN person in bed from the side

allquixotic

looks beautiful on a Macbook Pro /troll

Bob

6:17 PM

Was a joke about the whole monitor in bed thing :P

cat

blob:http%3A//imgur.com/f33363e5-4603-40b8-9686-c2ee565c017d

wtf

mr enigma

what the heck is hxxp

cat

Bob

3 mins ago, by Bob

@cat works fine on Win10 -_-

cat

wtf has imgur done

Bob

6:18 PM

:D

Ben N

@mrenigma Sometimes articles replace "http" in malicious links with "hxxp" to stop you from accidentally navigating to them

oh

That's Win10/Firefox

I thought it meant HyperXtremeXtransportProtocol

@Bob Looks better on my phone

Bob

6:19 PM

Which doesn't look that blurry in person; I blame Snagit not cooperating with DPI scaling -_-

cat

At least the hospital is rendered as a hospital and not a shield on mine

Bob

@cat yea, that one was a bit weird

I think the screen looks better on Win though

That Brazilian Guy

bwDraco

Missing fonts on Firefox.

mr enigma

all I see it boxes

cat

6:24 PM

That's what she said

bwDraco

GTK+ displays the code point in a box.

It's status-bydesign that GTK+ displays missing glyphs as boxes with Unicode code points inside.

Bob

@bwDraco emojione.com

broken-bydesign, more like

that's what Unicode fallbacks are for...

noooope, that's only for *nix

it uses the native UI toolkit for Windows, macOS and Android

bwDraco

...it's Pango, not GTK+ (although Pango is a core GTK+ dependency).

Boris_yo

@Bob If you were upgrading on your old drive, how could you remove it in the process?

bwDraco

!! s/GTK\+ displays/Pango renders/

?

Bob

6:37 PM

@bwDraco Still only for LInux afaik

it uses Uniscribe on Windows

bwDraco

Odd. Then why does Firefox do this?

Bob

@bwDraco Do what?

bwDraco

Uniscribe is the native Unicode library.

Bob

The codepoint-in-a-box?

That is by far not a GTK+ thing.

Also, Uniscribe doesn't handle font fallback automatically iirc. that has to be implemented by the user

Apparently Chromium might use Pango on Windows too

that would explain why its font rendering sucks so much

ah, Uniscribe does some fallback stuff

bwDraco

Perhaps I'll start working on Firefox code?

Another language to learn, Rust...

Bob

6:42 PM

eh, a large chunk is in JS

and that's relatively easy to get into

allquixotic

well all of the perf-sensitive code and native platform stuff is in C++, and it's pretty messy

Bob

@bwDraco FYI it's manually implemented in Firefox

> I'm using that logic in the Uniscribe path.

> I'd actually like to copy Pango's approach of drawing the Unicode character number in the missing-glyph box (hexboxes). We can't use Pango's because we don't draw using pangocairo and a cross-platform solution would be great.

bwDraco

Huh.

Bob

There was a request to make it look nicer that went nowhere

@allquixotic they're working on porting that to rust, with some H.264 metadata parsing ported so far

but C++ is one of the few languages where I'd say you really need some level of competence before diving into a large project, if only because it's the equivalent of pointing a GAU-8 at your foot

hubot

I'll run unit tests in my library

Bob

6:48 PM

at least with the JS(M) parts you can get a soft start by writing them as addons first

hubot

I'm opening Visual Studio

cat

7:02 PM

!!wiki gau-8

!!wiki GAU-8 Avenger

!!Did the bot die

:-(

Bob

@allquixotic killed him with that last s/// :(

@cat I suspect it's some chat timeout :\

probably kills the websocket

in Bot Overflow, 10 secs ago, by ChatBot John Cavil

I have just been restarted! This happens daily automatically, or when my owner restarts me. Ready for commands.

!!caaat

It's aliiiive!

Pimp My Wifi - Solving Problems & Shopping at Sim Lim Square!

►

@JourneymanGeek Linus Sebastian in your country poking around a tech mall

Bob

7:13 PM

hubot

Look in codereview.stackexchange.com/questions/132279/… - I changed the code of unit tests

cat

@Nick To whom? For what? Whyyyy?

@ThatBrazilianGuy Read what I said again :-P

@ThatBrazilianGuy Menu => Request desktop site, as I previously mentioned

@Bob I chmoded no such thing. Wasn't me at all.

allquixotic

@cat your deception is transparent, qasdf :)

cat

!!nothinghappened

ChatBot John Cavil

cat

7:32 PM

Wow, that's startlingly true

Meghan Trainor - NO

►

cat

8:00 PM

Someone Painted A Giant Mural "In Loving Memory" Of Taylor Swift "Please respect the dead"

bwDraco

My Android tablet reboots if it hard-locks for some reason (including a kernel panic). Why reboot?

Is a watchdog timer mandatory?

Stack Exchange

Stack Exchange Network Status: Outage Postmortem - July 20, 2016

posted on July 20, 2016

Overview On July 20, 2016 we experienced a 34 minute outage starting at 14:44 UTC. It took 10 minutes to identify the cause, 14 minutes to write the code to fix it, and 10 minutes to roll out the fix to a point where Stack Overflow became available again. The direct cause was a malformed post that caused one of our regular expressions to consume high CPU on our web servers. The post was in …

cat

Lol fail

Once again, a system whose sole purpose is to eradicate downtime is the primary cause of unnecessary downtime m

"This regular expression has been replaced with a substring function." lol

!! Xkcd 1171

ChatBot John Cavil

8:16 PM

To generate #1 albums, 'jay --help' recommends the -z flag.

DavidPostill

I wonder who posted "20,000 consecutive character of whitespace on a comment line that started with -- play happy sound for player to enjoy." - and was it deliberate ...

Michael Frank

8:33 PM

@DavidPostill Huh?

DavidPostill

@MichaelFrank Read the outage postmortem ^^^

"The direct cause was a malformed post"

"The malformed post contained roughly 20,000..."

Paul Vargas

Can you reach https://archive.org?

Ben N

I can't

DavidPostill

8:52 PM

The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the authenticity of the received data could not be verified.
Please contact the website owners to inform them of this problem.

Ben N

I couldn't get anything at all; Chrome just spins forever

ERR_CONNECTION_TIMED_OUT

Michael Frank

@DavidPostill Ouch.

@BenN I got this instantly.

DavidPostill

@BenN @PaulVargas My output is Firefox (with HTTPS Everywhere, which has a rule for archive.org)

Same if I disable the rule.

Paul Vargas

Working now! Thanks! @BenN @DavidPostill @MichaelFrank :D

Ben N

Oooh, it looks like they upgraded stuff, at least the UI looks shinier

DavidPostill

9:07 PM

I guess we caught them at just the wrong time ...

Michael Frank

@PaulVargas You're welcome... It was difficult to turn the site back on with my mind, but I did it!

DavidPostill

9:29 PM

lol

blog.codinghorror.com/regex-performance

"I'm definitely guilty of this. When I throw a regex together, I never worry about performance; I know the target strings will generally be far too small to ever cause a problem. But you may not need a large string to cause a major performance bottleneck – it's entirely possible to formulate regular expression patterns that consume exponentially more CPU time for each additional input character" -- Jeff Atwood

bwDraco

9:48 PM

Malformed post—Is this an algorithmic complexity attack against Stack Exchange?

Ben N

My guess is that it was just some "my code is broken!" with a copypasta of that broken code, and that the code just happened to have accumulated a boatload of spaces (that may have linewrapped in the IDE)

But again,
SERVICE_NAME: WildSpeculation
STATUS: RUNNING

bwDraco

10:10 PM

guru3d.com/news-story/…

Zen engineering samples! The chip must be almost ready for launch...

550 MHz idle? That's lower than many Intel chips, which typically clock down to 800 MHz.

Perhaps the type U and Y chips clock lower than that, but I have no firsthand experience with them.

2.8-3.2 GHz is not exactly impressive, though. Then again, ES parts are often clocked lower than retail parts, which likely have revised silicon. Test runs tend to be more conservative than final parts because you don't want to have as many bad parts.

you want to see how well things perform before you raise the clocks as high as possible.

After all, the Zen μarch is a total redesign from scratch, with engineers given carte blanche on the chip design.

Bear in mind the low TDPs. 65W for a 4C/8T chip running at 2.8-3.2 GHz doesn't sound bad.

Intel's able to hit 3.4-4.0 GHz within this same envelope with 4C/8T but again, the AMD parts are engineering samples. We don't know their IPC just yet.

bwDraco

11:15 PM

You have 9 days left to upgrade to Windows 10 for free.

Also, don't wait until the last minute: reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/4taqsx/…

> [...] the last 2 days will be hard, the Update and Activation servers will run on 100% so expect errors.

Michael Frank

More likely they will cull half the cores on the activation servers and force people to buy it because they couldn't activate in time.

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic yeah..that's sim Lim. Now THE tech mall since the other PC centric one closed down for renovation

bwDraco

@JourneymanGeek: I heard you went out of your way to deploy Windows 10 on every machine you had. How did it go?

Ramhound

I way to skip those errors

use the .ISo

Ben N

I think you could do some MDT wizardry to automate the upgrade across your domain

Ramhound

11:23 PM

If you have system and data partitions seperate you could easily do that

just have a script whe you boot that applys a .wim to the system partition :-)

Ben N

That would definitely make it easier. MDT theoretically can do in-place upgrades, but I haven't dared try them

My organization makes it a policy to occasionally completely reimage machines anyway

Journeyman Geek

@bwDraco used a installation USB. Went good.

Ramhound

Yeah, never tried to upgrade using MDT

technet.microsoft.com/en-us/itpro/windows/deploy/…

Journeyman Geek

All my machines is only 4 or 5 tho.

Ramhound

Microsoft did though

I hate having an AD server that can't be patched to fix a memory leak it hassss

Having to reboot it and the entire IDM forest is annoying as heck

0

Q: Visual Studio 2015 installation fail

I successfully downloaded the exe from here: http://download.microsoft.com/download/9/3/F/93FCF1E7-E6A4-478B-96E7-D4B285925B00/vc_redist.x86.exe For first time it was successfully installed but for some reason I uninstall it from control panel and then when I am trying to install its giving err...

I am so confused by that question

It is tagged for Visual Studio but the author isn't even trying to install Visual Studio

Ben N

11:39 PM

They probably typed visual and saw the visual-studio tag

cat

@allquixotic Hah, love that guy

Ben N

Also that might be a dupe, I've seen something like it before

Andrey Erick

hHello

Ramhound

Its a Sept 2015 patch

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic also, that house is posh

cat

11:40 PM

Hi, I'm a cat.

Andrey Erick

!!caaat

ChatBot John Cavil

Ramhound

Must we play with the bot in this channel?

If you are going to throw bot commands I will just leave.

Andrey Erick

@Ramhound I think he's from StackOverflow

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic That mall is where I buy my hardware

LADDER STORE! Its right next to the battery store

Andrey Erick

11:43 PM

Because of the one-o-one rep

Maybe there they told him that was a Superuser question lol

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic that shop is pricy

Andrey Erick

Oh, just saw his profile, I was right.

1.3k rep, hmm

Bob

25

Q: Buy old Windows version now and still get the upgrade for free?

I'm not quite sure if this is the correct board for this kind of question but I didn't found another one with this kind of topic. We have a little office for our local sports club here. In this office we have 3 PC which are all running on Ubuntu. Because all of the PC-users in this office are ...

windows-7 windows-xp windows-10-upgrade license

In these comments: "use Linux"

Journeyman Geek

and in the answer and...

Bob

yay evangelism

Ramhound

11:46 PM

I still maintain the author of that question wasn't literally asking for an alternative to Windows but an alternative to buying Windows 10.

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic he;s doing it wrong.

Ben N

Hmm, the question was edited in a way that invalidates that borderline answer

Andrey Erick

Who buys Windows

>bought windows laptop<

Journeyman Geek

@AndreyErick quite a lot of people here

Andrey Erick

Yes, lol

Journeyman Geek

11:47 PM

He NEEDS to pick up price lists.

Andrey Erick

My i7 takes decades to boot

Ben N

Also, this related question isn't a dupe of the one it was closed as

Andrey Erick

my dad's i3 is so fast lol

Journeyman Geek

@BenN reopened

cat

Boot speed isn't about how many i's you have in your core.

Ben N

11:49 PM

Thanks :)

Andrey Erick

Yes indeed

But I mean

all my notebook's specs are superior to my dad's

And I formatted both of them with the same Windows 10 Enterprise ISO

Ben N

Do you have more stuff running? What's your antivirus?

Journeyman Geek

@AndreyErick different drives?

cat

No, the only way to get Windows 10 free on a new Windows installation is before the deadline is via the Media Creation Tool. This is because the installation must be installed for 30 days first (for updates apparently) before the Get Windows 10 update is available. — cybermonkey 5 hours ago

Lol scaremongering

Andrey Erick

oh.

I didn't install any driver on my dad's pc

lol

Ramhound

11:51 PM

30 days requirement is for something.

I forget what

cat

Dammit where are all my Win 7 licenses

Wish I'd kept the damn restore disk for my Foojitsu now. The CoA label is basically unreadable.