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cat

00:02

4 hours ago, by Stack Exchange

Stack Exchange Network Status: Outage Postmortem - July 20, 2016

posted on July 20, 2016

Overview On July 20, 2016 we experienced a 34 minute outage starting at 14:44 UTC. It took 10 minutes to identify the cause, 14 minutes to write the code to fix it, and 10 minutes to roll out the fix to a point where Stack Overflow became available again. The direct cause was a malformed post that caused one of our regular expressions to consume high CPU on our web servers. The post was in …

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Q: vc_redist.x86.exe Setup Failed: 0x80240017 Unspecified error

An installer told me I need to first install Visual C++ Redistributable Packages for Visual Studio 2013 and gave the link https://www.microsoft.com/en-US/download/details.aspx?id=40784 Unfortunately that link, after a few selection steps, does not download anything, so I unfortunately had to get...

Ramhound

nice duplicate find

Michael Frank

@JourneymanGeek My Q6600 based machine runs Windows 10 perfectly... I think.

I have booted it in a while.

Perhaps it's still on 7. D:

cat

It's a quad core, course it will

Michael Frank

Dammit, now I have to set it up when I get home to see what is has on it.

cat

Even my 10 year old laptop would run Windows 10

Heck it ran Vista and Windows 7 just fine, and just about nothing's more resource intensive than Vista

Vista is like, the OS equivalent of "Can it run Crysis?"

Michael Frank

00:12

We need a new "Can it run Crysis?" saying... I'd propose Star Citizen, but that game is turning into Duke Nukem: Forever.

cat

@MichaelFrank As in, taking forever?

@MichaelFrank We don't really need a new can it run Crysis saying though

Even the newest and fastest GPU available right now still can't run Crysis 3 at max settings on 4K

We're still like 2-3 generations away from that

Michael Frank

@cat Oh, okay. I've not cared about Crysis for a long time.

Ben N

@MichaelFrank "How many users can it run Virtual Desktop Infrastructure for?"

Though that's probably better for big servers

Ramhound

I have a Thinkpad T61P it runs Windows 10 like a champ

that thing is from 2004, lol

Thinking about doing a $65 upgrade to an SSD

it would have 4x as much storage as it has now ;-)

( 60GB HDD )

Its my "objects hit the fan" device.

cat

@BenN Over 9000

allquixotic

00:39

@JourneymanGeek that's really cool; I didn't know that :)

Journeyman Geek

00:51

@allquixotic that's the famed Sim Lim Square. I have never walked into a greater hive of scum and villany ;p

@MichaelFrank c2d, one gig of ram

@allquixotic there's specific stores that sell 'pulled' ram cheap in SLS, though they're a bit hard to find since there's a few hundred stores there.

Ben N

Devious web trick: while a person is scrolling down, create a text box with an email-like ID, hope they're using the down arrow key to scroll down, hook up some JS to send the contents of the text box to the server whenever it changes, and collect all the person's e-mail addresses when they accidentally spin through the autocomplete

That may have just been pulled on me

sc start Tinfoil

bwDraco

@Ramhound Wow.

mr enigma

hi

Journeyman Geek

01:07

@Ramhound 0_0

I'm sure those are newer

and IMO, the SSD is an excellent idea

mr enigma

I dont trust SSDs

Journeyman Geek

all storage eventually dies

2

mr enigma

yes its just my SSD died very soon

Journeyman Geek

@Ramhound I threw some no name, dramless 120gb ssds into it. The change is pretty dramatic

@mrenigma excellent, you should RMA it, and restore from backups

mr enigma

what is RMA

Journeyman Geek

01:11

I run all sorts of dodgy storage and I'm oddly fine tho

@mrenigma get it replaced under warranty

mr enigma

my brother bought it and he cant find the recipt

Journeyman Geek

RMA = return material authorisation - you let the manufacturer know its spoilt, they tell you how or where to send it back, they send you a new one

mr enigma

its fine though

Journeyman Geek

You may not need a recipt.

mr enigma

my data is fine at least

bwDraco

01:29

@mrenigma Return merchandise authorization—basically a confirmation of your intent to return an item to the vendor or manufacturer.

mr enigma

ill give it a try

bwDraco

Jan 16 '15 at 23:34, by Journeyman Geek

Also, all storage dies.

I'm not one to skimp on things like this. If you have the money, I'd just recommend the SSD 850 EVO, in either 120 GB or 250 GB.

mr enigma

I have that exact drive

it failed after using it a few times for around 8 or 9 months

Michael Frank

You should definitely RMA it.

bwDraco

Well then, you probably got a fluke. Samsung will happily exchange it for you.

Michael Frank

01:32

I have the 850 PRO.

bwDraco

I'm personally running a 512 GB SSD 850 PRO and have had no issues whatsoever.

Nick

@cat It's for an exhibition. School kids will be coming to see IoT concept demonstrations. I've never worked on a Pi before and I'm not supposed to mod anything or even take the unit home. It's so hard figuring out what to do.

cat

Ow

bwDraco

10 hours ago, by Nick

@cat I'm in a worse situation. I have one day to make an insanely interesting project with a RasPi2 demonstrating IoT. Most of the simple stuff like doorbells and thermostats are already taken.

> Insanely interesting project

Wow. Looks like any old IoT project will get rejected.

You're being asked to hit a really high standard here.

Nick

@bwDraco Not technically. It's just that everybody took the easy ones like remotely blinking lights and stuff.

bwDraco

01:36

@Nick CCTV is probably too simple...

Nick

I'm planning on serving Wikipedia offline using Gozim.

bwDraco

(CCTV is not an uncommon application at all for RPi, considering the GPU built into the SoC was built for video streaming...)

Ben N

If it has a camera, you could do something with color histograms, which are kinda neat

Nick

@bwDraco It's been taken. My first project was a doorbell (basically, a button you press to start voice or video chat)

@BenN I have a usb webcam. As I said, not much to work with.

Michael Frank

h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Notebook-Operating-System-and-Recovery/…

OOPS!

Nick

01:39

@MichaelFrank XD haha!

Michael Frank

Although they didn't seem too fazed by it...

bwDraco

They don't call it VideoCore for no reason.

It was originally designed for use in STBs.

The RPi3 features an overclocked but otherwise identical version of the VideoCore IV GPU.

Michael Frank

Ugh... I have like 40 laptops to wipe... and the only tool I have is HP Disc Sanitizer...

bwDraco

The CPU block, on the other hand, has changed dramatically over the years. It was once ARM1176JZF-S; it's now ARM Cortex-A53 MPCore.

Michael Frank

> Single HP Disk Sanitizer cycle
First pass ‘00000000’ (all zeros)
Second pass ‘11111111’ (all ones)
Third pass random write ‘1 or 0’ & verify
Fourth pass ‘00000000’ (all zeros)

This could take a while.

Nick

01:46

@bwDraco I have an RPi2 and sure, I can make an STB out of it but that doesn't demonstrate any real IoT concept. Does it? Unless I'm like downloading and serving a youtube playlist. Mhh, sounds like an ok idea.

Michael Frank

@Nick Attach a microphone and make a voice activated jukebox?

Ben N

If it has voice synthesis too, you could make a little voice-activated reminder thing

bwDraco

Raspberry Pi has been using custom Broadcom SoCs since the RPi2. Yours has an ARM Cortex-A7 MPCore processor block.

Ben N

That would actually be useful, I want to make one of those now!

Nick

@MichaelFrank Ooh, that's nice and sounds not too complicated to set up quickly.

@bwDraco Yeah, that's the first thing they told me during the intro session. It's the same processor on my phone.

bwDraco

01:51

4C Cortex-A7 @ 900 MHz.

Bob

@JourneymanGeek I still think you could've gotten branded SSDs for the same price :P

Nick

@BenN Just checked into this. Someone's already doing image processing. So, I can't play with that idea much.

@bwDraco I'm Oc'ing it at 1000 MHz

bwDraco

@Nick Most will have no trouble with this; it's considered safe.

Bob

@Nick If you have an infrared diode, you can make a remote-remote-control :P

(TV remote over IP?)

Nick

@Bob I'll probably tell my friend who's doing the remote blinking lights to make it his second project.

Bob

01:56

@Nick Could also do it the other way around. Make an IR receiver! :P

Nick

@Bob Well, that doesn't sound hard. maybe i should combine that with the jukebox.

Bob

IR-sensitive LDR + maybe IR pass filter

Or IR phototransistor instead of the LDR

Or a ready-made module :P

Michael Frank

If you have a DSLR, you could make a timelapse controller.

cat

Make love, not ~~war~~ timelapse controllers

Michael Frank

What's wrong with timelapse? :o

Bob

02:05

> [ Big scratch on new 20in LCD..](forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=1486203)

cat

12 years ago, gee...

i...cat...need...am...woof

bwDraco

@MichaelFrank Not every camera has a cable release terminal. While mine (Pentax K-3 II) does, most less expensive DSLRs are limited to an IR remote release.

Michael Frank

@bwDraco Why not USB?

bwDraco

@MichaelFrank Not every camera can tether.

Even so, it's usually a proprietary protocol.

Many newer cameras allow wireless tethering (my DSLR does with a special memory card; my Nikon compact has it built in) but you're basically going to be automating the operation of an embedded web application with PhantomJS at this point...

You'd also need a Wi-Fi dongle and a way to manage connections both to the camera and to the outside world.

cat

02:26

help...mouse...becoming...ouch...afraid...moo...can't...banana...forgetting...ho‌w...caaaaaat

Michael Frank

02:43

> $US250 (NZ$747)

Yea... That exchange rate is fully wrong.

Bob

02:56

@pjc50 Once I was working with a US student and a Canadian postdoc. The postdoc kept saying "zed" instead of "z", and eventually the student asked "What's a zed?" I told her it was a backwards z, but since we didn't have those on our standard keyboards, we would just type "z" — Scott Seidman 10 hours ago

bwDraco

@Bob "zed" is the way one says Z in Commonwealth English (including en-GB and en-AU).

In fact, "zee" is considered incorrect in en-GB.

It's actually en-CA, but that's still Commonwealth English.

Bob

03:24

@bwDraco Somehow, I think I might have been aware of that, being Australian and all, y'know...

cat

And if you stare at the R for long, it sort of looks like someone got a stretchy omega and pinched its center to join the two legs, and moved it up and to the left a bit. — Kroltan 15 hours ago

We call it Z in the UK. Only people who use "zed" are those odd Americans who like to bastardize the English language then call it their own.

bwDraco

03:50

@Bob No need to understate it, just say it upfront.

There's no need to be polite here.

Apologies if I had insulted you.

...okay. Why am I encouraging bad behavior?

"No need to be polite"? What on earth did I just write?

Bob

@bwDraco Sorry, was just in a bit of a sarcastic mood :P

bwDraco

This is what I mean when I say my lack of a sense of humor is serious enough to potentially get me in trouble.

It's getting late here and I wasn't exactly in a good mood when I stepped back in to respond. Sorry. This was my fault.

Michael Frank

After reading all this I can't remember how I pronounce Z. D:

DAMN YOU ALL!

Journeyman Geek

Hm. My PC can't reach anything over ipv4

@MichaelFrank zed. You ain't merican

Psycogeek

04:07

hey check this out it is a Replicator, converts mass ammounts of power suntowater.com/technology-atmospheric-water-generator into water. Only uses about as much power as a houshold uses every day, and outputs 1/3 of the water a houshold would use. No less interesting, it is going to be a dry air summer :-)

It is a good thing they invented this, because the 3/4 full resivors (during drought) one of thier problems is having enough water to generate power. uhh yea that my friends is a Loop. another insanity loop.

now i dont know what type of "salt" they are referring to, but the web (even) recognises that salt is a very poor dessicant. and Salt being added to water (oceans and waterways), is one of the reasons why water is a problem. and watering your lawn with a bit of leftover salt, or it getting into the land by sheer accident, kills everything pretty good.

Journeyman Geek

there we are

@Bob at that point. Maaaaybe

there's been a recent price drop so yeah, quite certainly

but meh, the risk is half the fun

Bob

04:28

> Processed at HONG KONG - HONG KONG

> Departed Facility in HONG KONG - HONG KONG

What're the chances it'll actually arrive tomorrow? :P

It's about a 12hr flight to Sydney

so it should arrive here around midnight.

Then... I guess I should hope they deliver straight here rather than via a depot?

Psycogeek

bob is hoping the cargo plane is shot down over his house :-)

Bob

> Arrived at Sort Facility HONG KONG - HONG KONG

oh. it hasn't actually left HK :(

Journeyman Geek

whoot

I can read local rail cards from my phone

hackaday.com/2016/07/20/…

Psycogeek

05:33

i cant believe they jammed 128Gig into a micro sd (long ago) , I thought the 64 was going to about top that for some time. Now if a 64 works, android 4.1 isnt it likely that a 128 would also work? (even if it does not say so in the manuel because that didnt even exist then)

In fact I think only the 32g was in the manuel, but i guessed/hoped,and purchaced locally and the 64g worked great. filled it to the brim to test as soon as i had it.

djsmiley2k

05:45

So woke up for work this morning

wife is already awake and being having strong pains the last hour

@Psycogeek I think 64Gb was the max in the spe

yey finally

i an't type sea again D:

Rahul2001

05:58

Hellooooooooooooooooooooo!

Journeyman Geek

woof

Rahul2001

hehehehe

Journeyman Geek

ehhhhhh

don't onebox spam :(

nuked the post

Rahul2001

@JourneymanGeek okay

Journeyman Geek

and the user

Bob

06:05

It's stillllllllllll sitting in Hong Kong D: D: D:

Journeyman Geek

sadly I'm not allowed to nuke his home town from orbit. Something about too much paperwork

3

wait. what?

Rahul2001

Have to go for maths class :/

djsmiley2k

the 90's return!

Bob

It's been there for an hour. A whole hour!

Journeyman Geek

> cdn0.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/goZAHV2ftkJialphjNikoDSBiCs=/…

Posted without context

HackToHell

06:28

@Bob lol :D

SQL is a pretty large field

I really should learn more >.<

Can sql where clauses implemented dynamically ? I have an endpoint with two filters x and y, both are optional and so I have to write four damn cases

Bob

depends on your SQL flavour

HackToHell

It's postgres

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Q: How to remove conditions from WHERE clause if parameters are NULL

I'm passing 2 parameters to a PL/pgSQL function. Here's the query: SELECT * FROM table WHERE col1 = param1 AND col2 = param2 Both parameters can be NULL, in which case the respective expression should be removed from the WHERE clause. How can I do that? With IF conditions?

sql postgresql null plpgsql

Very tempted to simply edit the sql query via code

Not sure if that's stupid

But in my head it's better than 4 sql queries

what's the standard way this is done ?

Also daaayum i.imgur.com/9ELNilO.gifv

goes back to work

screw it, I'll form sql queries using code. I'm doing what an ORM does now .-.

Journeyman Geek

07:16

Stuff like this scares me superuser.com/questions/1103424/…

Burgi

07:33

morning

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

mornin' @Burgi

google url shortened photos should not be posted*

i learned something today

messing arround with google url and adding a ?.jpeg and uploading it to stackexchange produces intresting results

ranging from loading the photos renders as clicks and total laggg

Burgi

you mean uploading it to imgur

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

yes

Burgi

stack exchange doesn't host images itself

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

@CodeX did this and it redirected to a cake image

whats worse,

the google url shortner has a built-in locator

and it can track your location, browser and your os (not ip)

in Ask Ubuntu General Room, 5 hours ago, by CodeX

countries detected are Australia ..Greece .. Ukraine , US and Germany

see the transcript for more info

vpn's are useful

djsmiley2k

07:56

WSoooooooo baby time

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

?

?wsooooooooo baby time?

Burgi

@ƎpᴉʇʎXD his wife is spawning

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

.

Burgi

i just noticed the star wall has gone....

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

O_O

Burgi

08:00

its back

Journeyman Geek

It was never gone.

Burgi

i had connectivity issues

Journeyman Geek

These are not the stars you are looking for

Burgi

a refresh restored it

ugh! yet another super unhelpful comment from RH.

Journeyman Geek

You should tell him here? ;p

Burgi

08:11

i told him on the question

which probably means he is going to go super grumpy

Journeyman Geek

ah, ok

Burgi

so i apologise in advance for future drama

i try to limit my interaction with the user as everything i say tends to make him fly off the handle

Journeyman Geek

rh has a bit of a history with comments

Its a bit frustrating cause I don't quite see why hald the time

DavidPostill

@Burgi Yeah, he has a habit of saying "there is an answer on this site" and then doesn't bother with a linky or flagging as dupe. That habit really annoys me. If you know the answer have the decency to tell the OP where it is instead of teasing them.

Burgi

agreed

Rahul2001

08:26

@JourneymanGeek can you please unfreeze chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/39917/room-for-nick-and-rahul2001

Can room owners do that?

Journeyman Geek

Needs a mod. I'm on walkies now. Will do once I'm done

Rahul2001

Oh, ok, thanks...

cat

08:49

@Burgi don't worry, at least someone has the balls.

I should really join you.

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

join who?

cat

bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-36842732

Aussies...

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

rare pikachu

Burgi

our internet connection is dying a death

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

@Burgi time to change providers

Burgi

08:58

its at backbone level so changing provider won't help

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

time to move houses

Burgi

its the office

Journeyman Geek

@Rahul2001 unfrozen

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

time to move offices?

Journeyman Geek

NFC stickers are here \o/

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

09:00

or just poor network drivers?

\o/

Burgi

its backbone level @ƎpᴉʇʎXD

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

oh

Boris_yo

@Bob I didn't mention that laptop is lenovo and its hard drive came with OEM Windows 7. It also has lenovo branded recovery parition. Would Windows 10 install successfully and will recovery partition work? I know it's for Windows 7 but at least will I be able to boot and troubleshoot Windows 10 just in case? Thanks.

Burgi

BT are having major issues with routing traffic

i can only RDC on to one of our servers and its running super slow

DavidPostill

@Burgi Again? That happened yesterday? And was supposed to be fixed.

cat

09:12

@Burgi whose backbone? There are multiple providers with multiple backbones ya know

Journeyman Geek

@cat BT

Burgi

my traceroutes appear to be getting stuck at BT

cat

BT's backbone is MPLS anyway

Journeyman Geek

hm. This is going to be annoying. I need to rebuild a large chunk of my rss feeds cause one of the providers I use for em went down.

DavidPostill

Hehe. I can't load bt.com :)

cat

09:14

Eh VM have a good presence in Manchester. In fact a good many of their backbone links terminate therr

They also provide pretty decently priced symmetrical gigabit business lines.

Good enough that you don't have to pay crappy hosting providers anymore :-P

DavidPostill

wired.co.uk/article/bt-broadband-down-service-outage

A live outage map on DownDetector shows reports coming in from London, Birmingham, Manchester, Sheffield, Milton Keynes, Leeds, Nottingham, Bristol, Liverpool, and Leicester. There are also problems on Plusnet and Sky. Plusnet's Twitter handle posted the same tweet as BT.

"We're sorry some BT and Plusnet customers are having problems connecting to some internet services this morning. One of our internet connection partners in the docklands has suffered a substantial power failure. This is affecting BT and other providers. We are redirecting traffic to reduce the impact on customers. Engineers are on site and are fixing the problem."

Burgi

@cat not my choice, i just have to tell with the consequences of legacy internal incompetence and politics

my requests to chat.SE get stuck at hop 15

14    61 ms    44 ms    37 ms  be2311.ccr41.ams03.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.74.89]
15     *        *        *     Request timed out.

cat

Amsterdam? That's not... Huh

Burgi

our VoIP calls are dropping out too

cat

And yet chat is working fine?

Burgi

09:21

i'm remoting on to a server

DavidPostill

My tracert to bt.com is getting stuck at 80.157.129.114 (Deutsche Telekom AG) wtf?

cat

Ah wait I was on 4G because it wasn't loading on my BT connection

Lolz I fail

DavidPostill

 11    67 ms    68 ms    68 ms  lon-sb4-i.LON.GB.NET.DTAG.DE [62.154.5.42]
 12    64 ms    58 ms    62 ms  80.157.129.114
 13     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 14     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 15     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 16     *        *      159 ms  213.137.183.97

cat

I wonder if my ping monitor still works...

qasdfdsaq.com/ping

Oh nice it does work. Oh jeez BT is having some serious issues today...

Yeah that's pretty fucked

(images at the bottom of that page are what it should look like)

DavidPostill

Burgi

09:39

can't even connect to bitbucket

Bob

> Processed at HONG KONG - HONG KONG

Now we're getting somewhere!

Preferably out of Hong Kong :P

cat

@Bob What's this you ordered?

Ooh my wiki cache works

Bob

@cat that tablet

They ended up doing it out via DHL Express, which I'm impatiently tracking :P

Picked up yesterday, expected delivery tomorrow.

cat

Ah

Nice!

I have an inbound delivery... not sure what it is

Oh it's my Tronsmart charger

Burgi

chat.SE is back!

cat

09:48

BT's also back to normal routing

Since about... 10 minutes ago?

Burgi

bitbucket is back

Bob

@cat lol, those are always fun

Future surprise gift!

Blog bot

Introducing Stack Overflow Documentation Beta

Kevin Montrose on July 21, 2016

Today - thanks to our amazing community beta testers - we're shipping our [biggest expansion to Stack Overflow][1] since it first launched: Documentation.

cat

Examples? Sounds like SO turning into a script writing service.

> Documentation is only visible to docs-beta participants, please don't link externally just yet. Join the chat room.

Uhh...

> Today - thanks to our amazing community beta testers - we're shipping our biggest expansion to Stack Overflow since it first launched: Documentation.

Doesn't mention anything about it being an invitation to a beta program!

Bob

I think it turned up on meta.SE a while back

tombull89

10:02

@cat dat domain tho

cat

@tombull89 lol

2740

Q: Warlords of Documentation: A Proposed Expansion of Stack Overflow

It’s been 7 years and 10,000,000+ Questions since Stack Overflow was launched. The amount of good that has been done for the field - all the developers helped, all the person-hours saved, all the beginners who grew into professionals - is hard to overstate. I cannot express how proud I am of what...

discussion documentation

@Psycogeek Yes. If it supports SDXC at all (required for >32GB cards) it should support anything up to 2TB

And there's 256GB cards now btw, not just 128

Bob

@Boris_yo Windows 10 install should be fine. Recovery partition might not work anymore, especially after move to SSD.

You can just use Win10 on a flash drive for recovery.

cat

Good! Recovery partitions suck

tombull89

yes, blow them away and recover the 10/20/30gb space

cat

They need to stop existing or adopt the schnApple technique

> BT broadband users have been unable to access some websites again, following problems with the service yesterday.
The firm said the fault stemmed from a power failure at another "connection partner" in London's Docklands.
Telehouse North confirmed that its network had been affected by a tripped circuit breaker.

^^ @Burgi

Burgi

10:16

well its back up now

Journeyman Geek

It's probably Pokemon go setting their routers in fire.

cat

> Security expert Alan Woodward told the BBC the continuing issues were a "concern".
"If this level of disruption can be caused by a power problem on one floor of one building housing part of the infrastructure in the UK, you really have to ask how resilient is this piece of critical national infrastructure," he said.

@Burgi yeah but now we know the cause

Burgi

was it a lightning strike?

Psycogeek

@cat cool, i wonder if there are fast good ones too.

hmm the samsung 256 is ~$200 , and they have a warning that it is a choking hazard. yea at that price i am choking :-)

cat

10:31

@Psycogeek Mine's a 128G and it's fast (150MB/sec read, 50MB/sec write). Though it's not the fastest, and has some compatibility issues

Bob

...

mine's 64 GB 80 read 20 write lol

cat

My phone's limited to 50MB/sec anyway -_-

Bob

but really that's good enough for a bit of extra photo & music & maps storage on my phone

cat

Mine also reaches 108'c when writing at full speed

In retrospect, it wasn't a particularly... necessary purchase, but I wanted to try more speed.

I'd love for mine to be good enough for a bit of extra photo & music & maps storage on my phone but the constant hanging and unreliability makes me loathe to trust it...

Psycogeek

I was using the sandisk extreeme, which is faster than the phone will ever be, but could have longer lasting use in other things. When put in a tiny reader, and run on the pc to fill it, it probably goes over spec temps. The finger test causes skin steaming :-)

cat

10:35

... Once it died on me just while I was getting on a plane and needed both the maps and the music.

@Psycogeek Yeah the finger steaming is what led me to measure it with a thermal camera :-D

Bob

@cat my Transcend worked fine until it didn't :P

now my Samsung Evo Plus works fine

it'll fail one day

cat

@Bob lol

Bob

but no ongoing reliability issues

finger... steaming?

Psycogeek

at any rate, the tech for a micro is simply amaZing! when a thumbnail sized chip, that can be transported by a homing parakeet can store a set of movies that a few years ago would take a 1/4 of a room to store.

@Bob fingers steam at 210*f :-) or 100*C

Bob

shudder

some things should not exist

Rahul2001

10:52

@JourneymanGeek Thanks!

Boris_yo

@cat @tombull89 They suck because they stuff bloatware or there are other reasons?

I think that in order to cut down to 120GB SSD size I will backup recovery partition to external HDD and delete it before shrinking to 120GB size.

You said recovery partition will not work, especially after moving to SSD. Are they compatible with OEM only part i.e. HDD that came originally with laptop?

@Psycogeek Ever held in your hands Sony Walkman NWZ MP3 Sports Player?

Bob

@Boris_yo I said it might not work, because your cloning tool will be shrinking/moving partitions and maybe reassigning IDs.

I've not actually tried it.

Boris_yo

I have mine but it connects and disconnects intermittently. Thought battey getting dead but after wiggling it I found certain spot that prevented disconnections. Anyway I think the problem is how contacts are leveled:

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