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cat
cat
12:02 AM
4 hours ago, by Stack Exchange
Stack Exchange Network Status: Outage Postmortem - July 20, 2016
posted on July 20, 2016

Overview On July 20, 2016 we experienced a 34 minute outage starting at 14:44 UTC. It took 10 minutes to identify the cause, 14 minutes to write the code to fix it, and 10 minutes to roll out the fix to a point where Stack Overflow became available again. The direct cause was a malformed post that caused one of our regular expressions to consume high CPU on our web servers. The post was in …

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Q: vc_redist.x86.exe Setup Failed: 0x80240017 Unspecified error

Nicolas RaoulAn installer told me I need to first install Visual C++ Redistributable Packages for Visual Studio 2013 and gave the link https://www.microsoft.com/en-US/download/details.aspx?id=40784 Unfortunately that link, after a few selection steps, does not download anything, so I unfortunately had to get...

windows-7 installation visual-c++ application-error redistributable
 
Ramhound
Ramhound
nice duplicate find
 
Michael Frank
Michael Frank
@JourneymanGeek My Q6600 based machine runs Windows 10 perfectly... I think.
I have booted it in a while.
Perhaps it's still on 7. D:
 
cat
cat
It's a quad core, course it will
 
Michael Frank
Michael Frank
Dammit, now I have to set it up when I get home to see what is has on it.
 
cat
cat
Even my 10 year old laptop would run Windows 10
Heck it ran Vista and Windows 7 just fine, and just about nothing's more resource intensive than Vista
Vista is like, the OS equivalent of "Can it run Crysis?"
 
Michael Frank
Michael Frank
12:12 AM
We need a new "Can it run Crysis?" saying... I'd propose Star Citizen, but that game is turning into Duke Nukem: Forever.
 
cat
cat
@MichaelFrank As in, taking forever?
@MichaelFrank We don't really need a new can it run Crysis saying though
Even the newest and fastest GPU available right now still can't run Crysis 3 at max settings on 4K
We're still like 2-3 generations away from that
 
Michael Frank
Michael Frank
@cat Oh, okay. I've not cared about Crysis for a long time.
 
Ben N
Ben N
@MichaelFrank "How many users can it run Virtual Desktop Infrastructure for?"
Though that's probably better for big servers
 
Ramhound
Ramhound
I have a Thinkpad T61P it runs Windows 10 like a champ
that thing is from 2004, lol
Thinking about doing a $65 upgrade to an SSD
it would have 4x as much storage as it has now ;-)
( 60GB HDD )
Its my "objects hit the fan" device.
 
cat
cat
@BenN Over 9000
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
12:39 AM
@JourneymanGeek that's really cool; I didn't know that :)
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
12:51 AM
@allquixotic that's the famed Sim Lim Square. I have never walked into a greater hive of scum and villany ;p
@MichaelFrank c2d, one gig of ram
@allquixotic there's specific stores that sell 'pulled' ram cheap in SLS, though they're a bit hard to find since there's a few hundred stores there.
 
Ben N
Ben N
Devious web trick: while a person is scrolling down, create a text box with an email-like ID, hope they're using the down arrow key to scroll down, hook up some JS to send the contents of the text box to the server whenever it changes, and collect all the person's e-mail addresses when they accidentally spin through the autocomplete
That may have just been pulled on me
sc start Tinfoil
 
bwDraco
bwDraco
@Ramhound Wow.
 
mr enigma
mr enigma
hi
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
1:07 AM
@Ramhound 0_0
I'm sure those are newer
and IMO, the SSD is an excellent idea
 
mr enigma
mr enigma
I dont trust SSDs
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
all storage eventually dies
2
 
mr enigma
mr enigma
yes its just my SSD died very soon
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@Ramhound I threw some no name, dramless 120gb ssds into it. The change is pretty dramatic
@mrenigma excellent, you should RMA it, and restore from backups
 
mr enigma
mr enigma
what is RMA
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
1:11 AM
I run all sorts of dodgy storage and I'm oddly fine tho
@mrenigma get it replaced under warranty
 
mr enigma
mr enigma
my brother bought it and he cant find the recipt
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
RMA = return material authorisation - you let the manufacturer know its spoilt, they tell you how or where to send it back, they send you a new one
 
mr enigma
mr enigma
its fine though
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
You may not need a recipt.
 
mr enigma
mr enigma
my data is fine at least
 
bwDraco
bwDraco
1:29 AM
@mrenigma Return merchandise authorization—basically a confirmation of your intent to return an item to the vendor or manufacturer.
 
mr enigma
mr enigma
ill give it a try
 
bwDraco
bwDraco
Jan 16 '15 at 23:34, by Journeyman Geek
Also, all storage dies.
I'm not one to skimp on things like this. If you have the money, I'd just recommend the SSD 850 EVO, in either 120 GB or 250 GB.
 
mr enigma
mr enigma
I have that exact drive
it failed after using it a few times for around 8 or 9 months
 
Michael Frank
Michael Frank
You should definitely RMA it.
 
bwDraco
bwDraco
Well then, you probably got a fluke. Samsung will happily exchange it for you.
 
Michael Frank
Michael Frank
1:32 AM
I have the 850 PRO.
 
bwDraco
bwDraco
I'm personally running a 512 GB SSD 850 PRO and have had no issues whatsoever.
 
Nick
Nick
@cat It's for an exhibition. School kids will be coming to see IoT concept demonstrations. I've never worked on a Pi before and I'm not supposed to mod anything or even take the unit home. It's so hard figuring out what to do.
 
cat
cat
Ow
 
bwDraco
bwDraco
10 hours ago, by Nick
@cat I'm in a worse situation. I have one day to make an insanely interesting project with a RasPi2 demonstrating IoT. Most of the simple stuff like doorbells and thermostats are already taken.
> Insanely interesting project
Wow. Looks like any old IoT project will get rejected.
You're being asked to hit a really high standard here.
 
Nick
Nick
@bwDraco Not technically. It's just that everybody took the easy ones like remotely blinking lights and stuff.
 
bwDraco
bwDraco
1:36 AM
@Nick CCTV is probably too simple...
 
Nick
Nick
I'm planning on serving Wikipedia offline using Gozim.
 
bwDraco
bwDraco
(CCTV is not an uncommon application at all for RPi, considering the GPU built into the SoC was built for video streaming...)
 
Ben N
Ben N
If it has a camera, you could do something with color histograms, which are kinda neat
 
Nick
Nick
@bwDraco It's been taken. My first project was a doorbell (basically, a button you press to start voice or video chat)
@BenN I have a usb webcam. As I said, not much to work with.
 
Michael Frank
Michael Frank
OOPS!
 
Nick
Nick
1:39 AM
@MichaelFrank XD haha!
 
Michael Frank
Michael Frank
Although they didn't seem too fazed by it...
 
bwDraco
bwDraco
They don't call it VideoCore for no reason.
It was originally designed for use in STBs.
The RPi3 features an overclocked but otherwise identical version of the VideoCore IV GPU.
 
Michael Frank
Michael Frank
Ugh... I have like 40 laptops to wipe... and the only tool I have is HP Disc Sanitizer...
 
bwDraco
bwDraco
The CPU block, on the other hand, has changed dramatically over the years. It was once ARM1176JZF-S; it's now ARM Cortex-A53 MPCore.
 
Michael Frank
Michael Frank
> Single HP Disk Sanitizer cycle
First pass ‘00000000’ (all zeros)
Second pass ‘11111111’ (all ones)
Third pass random write ‘1 or 0’ & verify
Fourth pass ‘00000000’ (all zeros)
This could take a while.
 
Nick
Nick
1:46 AM
@bwDraco I have an RPi2 and sure, I can make an STB out of it but that doesn't demonstrate any real IoT concept. Does it? Unless I'm like downloading and serving a youtube playlist. Mhh, sounds like an ok idea.
 
Michael Frank
Michael Frank
@Nick Attach a microphone and make a voice activated jukebox?
 
Ben N
Ben N
If it has voice synthesis too, you could make a little voice-activated reminder thing
 
bwDraco
bwDraco
Raspberry Pi has been using custom Broadcom SoCs since the RPi2. Yours has an ARM Cortex-A7 MPCore processor block.
 
Ben N
Ben N
That would actually be useful, I want to make one of those now!
 
Nick
Nick
@MichaelFrank Ooh, that's nice and sounds not too complicated to set up quickly.
@bwDraco Yeah, that's the first thing they told me during the intro session. It's the same processor on my phone.
 
bwDraco
bwDraco
1:51 AM
4C Cortex-A7 @ 900 MHz.
 
Bob
Bob
@JourneymanGeek I still think you could've gotten branded SSDs for the same price :P
 
Nick
Nick
@BenN Just checked into this. Someone's already doing image processing. So, I can't play with that idea much.
@bwDraco I'm Oc'ing it at 1000 MHz
 
bwDraco
bwDraco
@Nick Most will have no trouble with this; it's considered safe.
 
Bob
Bob
@Nick If you have an infrared diode, you can make a remote-remote-control :P
(TV remote over IP?)
 
Nick
Nick
@Bob I'll probably tell my friend who's doing the remote blinking lights to make it his second project.
 
Bob
Bob
1:56 AM
@Nick Could also do it the other way around. Make an IR receiver! :P
 
Nick
Nick
@Bob Well, that doesn't sound hard. maybe i should combine that with the jukebox.
 
Bob
Bob
IR-sensitive LDR + maybe IR pass filter
Or IR phototransistor instead of the LDR
Or a ready-made module :P
 
Michael Frank
Michael Frank
If you have a DSLR, you could make a timelapse controller.
 
cat
cat
Make love, not war timelapse controllers
 
Michael Frank
Michael Frank
What's wrong with timelapse? :o
 
Bob
Bob
2:05 AM
> [ Big scratch on new 20in LCD..](forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=1486203)
 
cat
cat
12 years ago, gee...
i...cat...need...am...woof
 
bwDraco
bwDraco
@MichaelFrank Not every camera has a cable release terminal. While mine (Pentax K-3 II) does, most less expensive DSLRs are limited to an IR remote release.
 
Michael Frank
Michael Frank
@bwDraco Why not USB?
 
bwDraco
bwDraco
@MichaelFrank Not every camera can tether.
Even so, it's usually a proprietary protocol.
Many newer cameras allow wireless tethering (my DSLR does with a special memory card; my Nikon compact has it built in) but you're basically going to be automating the operation of an embedded web application with PhantomJS at this point...
You'd also need a Wi-Fi dongle and a way to manage connections both to the camera and to the outside world.
 
cat
cat
2:26 AM
help...mouse...becoming...ouch...afraid...moo...can't...banana...forgetting...ho‌​w...caaaaaat
 
Michael Frank
Michael Frank
2:43 AM
> $US250 (NZ$747)
Yea... That exchange rate is fully wrong.
 
Bob
Bob
2:56 AM
@pjc50 Once I was working with a US student and a Canadian postdoc. The postdoc kept saying "zed" instead of "z", and eventually the student asked "What's a zed?" I told her it was a backwards z, but since we didn't have those on our standard keyboards, we would just type "z" — Scott Seidman 10 hours ago
 
bwDraco
bwDraco
@Bob "zed" is the way one says Z in Commonwealth English (including en-GB and en-AU).
In fact, "zee" is considered incorrect in en-GB.
It's actually en-CA, but that's still Commonwealth English.
 
Bob
Bob
3:24 AM
@bwDraco Somehow, I think I might have been aware of that, being Australian and all, y'know...
 
cat
cat
And if you stare at the R for long, it sort of looks like someone got a stretchy omega and pinched its center to join the two legs, and moved it up and to the left a bit. — Kroltan 15 hours ago
We call it Z in the UK. Only people who use "zed" are those odd Americans who like to bastardize the English language then call it their own.
 
bwDraco
bwDraco
3:50 AM
@Bob No need to understate it, just say it upfront.
There's no need to be polite here.
Apologies if I had insulted you.
...okay. Why am I encouraging bad behavior?
"No need to be polite"? What on earth did I just write?
 
Bob
Bob
@bwDraco Sorry, was just in a bit of a sarcastic mood :P
 
bwDraco
bwDraco
This is what I mean when I say my lack of a sense of humor is serious enough to potentially get me in trouble.
It's getting late here and I wasn't exactly in a good mood when I stepped back in to respond. Sorry. This was my fault.
 
Michael Frank
Michael Frank
After reading all this I can't remember how I pronounce Z. D:
DAMN YOU ALL!
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
Hm. My PC can't reach anything over ipv4
@MichaelFrank zed. You ain't merican
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
4:07 AM
hey check this out it is a Replicator, converts mass ammounts of power suntowater.com/technology-atmospheric-water-generator into water. Only uses about as much power as a houshold uses every day, and outputs 1/3 of the water a houshold would use. No less interesting, it is going to be a dry air summer :-)
It is a good thing they invented this, because the 3/4 full resivors (during drought) one of thier problems is having enough water to generate power. uhh yea that my friends is a Loop. another insanity loop.
now i dont know what type of "salt" they are referring to, but the web (even) recognises that salt is a very poor dessicant. and Salt being added to water (oceans and waterways), is one of the reasons why water is a problem. and watering your lawn with a bit of leftover salt, or it getting into the land by sheer accident, kills everything pretty good.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
there we are
@Bob at that point. Maaaaybe
there's been a recent price drop so yeah, quite certainly
but meh, the risk is half the fun
 
Bob
Bob
4:28 AM
> Processed at HONG KONG - HONG KONG
> Departed Facility in HONG KONG - HONG KONG
What're the chances it'll actually arrive tomorrow? :P
It's about a 12hr flight to Sydney
so it should arrive here around midnight.
Then... I guess I should hope they deliver straight here rather than via a depot?
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
bob is hoping the cargo plane is shot down over his house :-)
 
Bob
Bob
> Arrived at Sort Facility HONG KONG - HONG KONG
oh. it hasn't actually left HK :(
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
whoot
I can read local rail cards from my phone
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
5:33 AM
i cant believe they jammed 128Gig into a micro sd (long ago) , I thought the 64 was going to about top that for some time. Now if a 64 works, android 4.1 isnt it likely that a 128 would also work? (even if it does not say so in the manuel because that didnt even exist then)
In fact I think only the 32g was in the manuel, but i guessed/hoped,and purchaced locally and the 64g worked great. filled it to the brim to test as soon as i had it.
 
djsmiley2k
djsmiley2k
5:45 AM
So woke up for work this morning
wife is already awake and being having strong pains the last hour
@Psycogeek I think 64Gb was the max in the spe
yey finally
i an't type sea again D:
 
Rahul2001
Rahul2001
5:58 AM
Hellooooooooooooooooooooo!
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
woof
 
Rahul2001
Rahul2001
hehehehe
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
ehhhhhh
don't onebox spam :(
nuked the post
 
Rahul2001
Rahul2001
@JourneymanGeek okay
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
and the user
 
Bob
Bob
6:05 AM
It's stillllllllllll sitting in Hong Kong D: D: D:
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
sadly I'm not allowed to nuke his home town from orbit. Something about too much paperwork
3
unrelatedly
wait. what?
 
Rahul2001
Rahul2001
Have to go for maths class :/
 
djsmiley2k
djsmiley2k
the 90's return!
 
Bob
Bob
It's been there for an hour. A whole hour!
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
Posted without context
 
HackToHell
HackToHell
6:28 AM
@Bob lol :D
SQL is a pretty large field
I really should learn more >.<
Can sql where clauses implemented dynamically ? I have an endpoint with two filters x and y, both are optional and so I have to write four damn cases
 
Bob
Bob
depends on your SQL flavour
 
HackToHell
HackToHell
It's postgres
1
Q: How to remove conditions from WHERE clause if parameters are NULL

user3339988I'm passing 2 parameters to a PL/pgSQL function. Here's the query: SELECT * FROM table WHERE col1 = param1 AND col2 = param2 Both parameters can be NULL, in which case the respective expression should be removed from the WHERE clause. How can I do that? With IF conditions?

sql postgresql null plpgsql
Very tempted to simply edit the sql query via code
Not sure if that's stupid
But in my head it's better than 4 sql queries
what's the standard way this is done ?
goes back to work
screw it, I'll form sql queries using code. I'm doing what an ORM does now .-.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
7:16 AM
Stuff like this scares me superuser.com/questions/1103424/…
 
Burgi
Burgi
7:33 AM
morning
 
ƎpᴉʇʎXD
ƎpᴉʇʎXD
mornin' @Burgi
google url shortened photos should not be posted*
i learned something today
messing arround with google url and adding a ?.jpeg and uploading it to stackexchange produces intresting results
ranging from loading the photos renders as clicks and total laggg
 
Burgi
Burgi
you mean uploading it to imgur
 
ƎpᴉʇʎXD
ƎpᴉʇʎXD
yes
 
Burgi
Burgi
stack exchange doesn't host images itself
 
ƎpᴉʇʎXD
ƎpᴉʇʎXD
@CodeX did this and it redirected to a cake image
whats worse,
the google url shortner has a built-in locator
and it can track your location, browser and your os (not ip)
in Ask Ubuntu General Room, 5 hours ago, by CodeX
countries detected are Australia ..Greece .. Ukraine , US and Germany
see the transcript for more info
vpn's are useful
 
djsmiley2k
djsmiley2k
7:56 AM
WSoooooooo baby time
 
ƎpᴉʇʎXD
ƎpᴉʇʎXD
?
?wsooooooooo baby time?
 
Burgi
Burgi
@ƎpᴉʇʎXD his wife is spawning
 
ƎpᴉʇʎXD
ƎpᴉʇʎXD
.
 
Burgi
Burgi
i just noticed the star wall has gone....
 
ƎpᴉʇʎXD
ƎpᴉʇʎXD
O_O
 
Burgi
Burgi
8:00 AM
its back
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
It was never gone.
 
Burgi
Burgi
i had connectivity issues
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
These are not the stars you are looking for
 
Burgi
Burgi
a refresh restored it
ugh! yet another super unhelpful comment from RH.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
You should tell him here? ;p
 
Burgi
Burgi
8:11 AM
i told him on the question
which probably means he is going to go super grumpy
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
ah, ok
 
Burgi
Burgi
so i apologise in advance for future drama
i try to limit my interaction with the user as everything i say tends to make him fly off the handle
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
rh has a bit of a history with comments
Its a bit frustrating cause I don't quite see why hald the time
 
DavidPostill
DavidPostill
@Burgi Yeah, he has a habit of saying "there is an answer on this site" and then doesn't bother with a linky or flagging as dupe. That habit really annoys me. If you know the answer have the decency to tell the OP where it is instead of teasing them.
 
Burgi
Burgi
agreed
 
Rahul2001
Rahul2001
8:26 AM
Can room owners do that?
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
Needs a mod. I'm on walkies now. Will do once I'm done
 
Rahul2001
Rahul2001
Oh, ok, thanks...
 
cat
cat
8:49 AM
@Burgi don't worry, at least someone has the balls.
I should really join you.
 
ƎpᴉʇʎXD
ƎpᴉʇʎXD
join who?
 
cat
cat
Aussies...
 
ƎpᴉʇʎXD
ƎpᴉʇʎXD
rare pikachu
 
Burgi
Burgi
our internet connection is dying a death
 
ƎpᴉʇʎXD
ƎpᴉʇʎXD
@Burgi time to change providers
 
Burgi
Burgi
8:58 AM
its at backbone level so changing provider won't help
 
ƎpᴉʇʎXD
ƎpᴉʇʎXD
time to move houses
 
Burgi
Burgi
its the office
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@Rahul2001 unfrozen
 
ƎpᴉʇʎXD
ƎpᴉʇʎXD
time to move offices?
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
NFC stickers are here \o/
 
ƎpᴉʇʎXD
ƎpᴉʇʎXD
9:00 AM
or just poor network drivers?
\o/
 
Burgi
Burgi
its backbone level @ƎpᴉʇʎXD
 
ƎpᴉʇʎXD
ƎpᴉʇʎXD
oh
 
Boris_yo
Boris_yo
@Bob I didn't mention that laptop is lenovo and its hard drive came with OEM Windows 7. It also has lenovo branded recovery parition. Would Windows 10 install successfully and will recovery partition work? I know it's for Windows 7 but at least will I be able to boot and troubleshoot Windows 10 just in case? Thanks.
 
Burgi
Burgi
BT are having major issues with routing traffic
i can only RDC on to one of our servers and its running super slow
 
DavidPostill
DavidPostill
@Burgi Again? That happened yesterday? And was supposed to be fixed.
 
cat
cat
9:12 AM
@Burgi whose backbone? There are multiple providers with multiple backbones ya know
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@cat BT
 
Burgi
Burgi
my traceroutes appear to be getting stuck at BT
 
cat
cat
BT's backbone is MPLS anyway
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
hm. This is going to be annoying. I need to rebuild a large chunk of my rss feeds cause one of the providers I use for em went down.
 
DavidPostill
DavidPostill
Hehe. I can't load bt.com :)
 
cat
cat
9:14 AM
Eh VM have a good presence in Manchester. In fact a good many of their backbone links terminate therr
They also provide pretty decently priced symmetrical gigabit business lines.
Good enough that you don't have to pay crappy hosting providers anymore :-P
 
DavidPostill
DavidPostill
A live outage map on DownDetector shows reports coming in from London, Birmingham, Manchester, Sheffield, Milton Keynes, Leeds, Nottingham, Bristol, Liverpool, and Leicester. There are also problems on Plusnet and Sky. Plusnet's Twitter handle posted the same tweet as BT.
"We're sorry some BT and Plusnet customers are having problems connecting to some internet services this morning. One of our internet connection partners in the docklands has suffered a substantial power failure. This is affecting BT and other providers. We are redirecting traffic to reduce the impact on customers. Engineers are on site and are fixing the problem."
 
Burgi
Burgi
@cat not my choice, i just have to tell with the consequences of legacy internal incompetence and politics
my requests to chat.SE get stuck at hop 15 
14    61 ms    44 ms    37 ms  be2311.ccr41.ams03.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.74.89]
15     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 
cat
cat
Amsterdam? That's not... Huh
 
Burgi
Burgi
our VoIP calls are dropping out too
 
cat
cat
And yet chat is working fine?
 
Burgi
Burgi
9:21 AM
i'm remoting on to a server
 
DavidPostill
DavidPostill
My tracert to bt.com is getting stuck at 80.157.129.114 (Deutsche Telekom AG) wtf?
 
cat
cat
Ah wait I was on 4G because it wasn't loading on my BT connection
Lolz I fail
 
DavidPostill
DavidPostill
 11    67 ms    68 ms    68 ms  lon-sb4-i.LON.GB.NET.DTAG.DE [62.154.5.42]
 12    64 ms    58 ms    62 ms  80.157.129.114
 13     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 14     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 15     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 16     *        *      159 ms  213.137.183.97
 
cat
cat
I wonder if my ping monitor still works...
Oh nice it does work. Oh jeez BT is having some serious issues today...
Yeah that's pretty fucked
(images at the bottom of that page are what it should look like)
 
DavidPostill
DavidPostill
 
Burgi
Burgi
9:39 AM
can't even connect to bitbucket
 
Bob
Bob
> Processed at HONG KONG - HONG KONG
Now we're getting somewhere!
Preferably out of Hong Kong :P
 
cat
cat
@Bob What's this you ordered?
Ooh my wiki cache works
 
Bob
Bob
@cat that tablet
They ended up doing it out via DHL Express, which I'm impatiently tracking :P
Picked up yesterday, expected delivery tomorrow.
 
cat
cat
Ah
Nice!
I have an inbound delivery... not sure what it is
Oh it's my Tronsmart charger
 
Burgi
Burgi
chat.SE is back!
 
cat
cat
9:48 AM
BT's also back to normal routing
Since about... 10 minutes ago?
 
Burgi
Burgi
bitbucket is back
 
Bob
Bob
@cat lol, those are always fun
Future surprise gift!
 
Blog bot
Blog bot
Introducing Stack Overflow Documentation Beta
Kevin Montrose on July 21, 2016
Today - thanks to our amazing community beta testers - we're shipping our [biggest expansion to Stack Overflow][1] since it first launched: Documentation.
 
cat
cat
Examples? Sounds like SO turning into a script writing service.
> Documentation is only visible to docs-beta participants, please don't link externally just yet. Join the chat room.
Uhh...
> Today - thanks to our amazing community beta testers - we're shipping our biggest expansion to Stack Overflow since it first launched: Documentation.
Doesn't mention anything about it being an invitation to a beta program!
 
Bob
Bob
I think it turned up on meta.SE a while back
 
tombull89
tombull89
10:02 AM
@cat dat domain tho
 
cat
cat
@tombull89 lol
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@Psycogeek Yes. If it supports SDXC at all (required for >32GB cards) it should support anything up to 2TB
And there's 256GB cards now btw, not just 128
 
Bob
Bob
@Boris_yo Windows 10 install should be fine. Recovery partition might not work anymore, especially after move to SSD.
You can just use Win10 on a flash drive for recovery.
 
cat
cat
Good! Recovery partitions suck
 
tombull89
tombull89
yes, blow them away and recover the 10/20/30gb space
 
cat
cat
They need to stop existing or adopt the schnApple technique
> BT broadband users have been unable to access some websites again, following problems with the service yesterday.
The firm said the fault stemmed from a power failure at another "connection partner" in London's Docklands.
Telehouse North confirmed that its network had been affected by a tripped circuit breaker.
^^ @Burgi
 
Burgi
Burgi
10:16 AM
well its back up now
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
It's probably Pokemon go setting their routers in fire.
 
cat
cat
> Security expert Alan Woodward told the BBC the continuing issues were a "concern".
"If this level of disruption can be caused by a power problem on one floor of one building housing part of the infrastructure in the UK, you really have to ask how resilient is this piece of critical national infrastructure," he said.
@Burgi yeah but now we know the cause
 
Burgi
Burgi
was it a lightning strike?
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
@cat cool, i wonder if there are fast good ones too.
hmm the samsung 256 is ~$200 , and they have a warning that it is a choking hazard. yea at that price i am choking :-)
 
cat
cat
10:31 AM
@Psycogeek Mine's a 128G and it's fast (150MB/sec read, 50MB/sec write). Though it's not the fastest, and has some compatibility issues
 
Bob
Bob
...
mine's 64 GB 80 read 20 write lol
 
cat
cat
My phone's limited to 50MB/sec anyway -_-
 
Bob
Bob
but really that's good enough for a bit of extra photo & music & maps storage on my phone
 
cat
cat
Mine also reaches 108'c when writing at full speed
In retrospect, it wasn't a particularly... necessary purchase, but I wanted to try more speed.
I'd love for mine to be good enough for a bit of extra photo & music & maps storage on my phone but the constant hanging and unreliability makes me loathe to trust it...
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
I was using the sandisk extreeme, which is faster than the phone will ever be, but could have longer lasting use in other things. When put in a tiny reader, and run on the pc to fill it, it probably goes over spec temps. The finger test causes skin steaming :-)
 
cat
cat
10:35 AM
... Once it died on me just while I was getting on a plane and needed both the maps and the music.
@Psycogeek Yeah the finger steaming is what led me to measure it with a thermal camera :-D
 
Bob
Bob
@cat my Transcend worked fine until it didn't :P
now my Samsung Evo Plus works fine
it'll fail one day
 
cat
cat
@Bob lol
 
Bob
Bob
but no ongoing reliability issues
finger... steaming?
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
at any rate, the tech for a micro is simply amaZing! when a thumbnail sized chip, that can be transported by a homing parakeet can store a set of movies that a few years ago would take a 1/4 of a room to store.
@Bob fingers steam at 210*f :-) or 100*C
 
Bob
Bob
shudder
some things should not exist
 
Rahul2001
Rahul2001
10:52 AM
@JourneymanGeek Thanks!
 
Boris_yo
Boris_yo
@cat @tombull89 They suck because they stuff bloatware or there are other reasons?
I think that in order to cut down to 120GB SSD size I will backup recovery partition to external HDD and delete it before shrinking to 120GB size.

You said recovery partition will not work, especially after moving to SSD. Are they compatible with OEM only part i.e. HDD that came originally with laptop?
@Psycogeek Ever held in your hands Sony Walkman NWZ MP3 Sports Player?
 
Bob
Bob
@Boris_yo I said it might not work, because your cloning tool will be shrinking/moving partitions and maybe reassigning IDs.
I've not actually tried it.
 
Boris_yo
Boris_yo
I have mine but it connects and disconnects intermittently. Thought battey getting dead but after wiggling it I found certain spot that prevented disconnections. Anyway I think the problem is how contacts are leveled:
 
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