« first day (2016 days earlier)      last day (2946 days later) » 
00:00 - 13:0013:00 - 23:00

12:29 AM
@AshleyNunn In this boat too. I'm lucky that I can play with some of my friends online, but we're down to one Pathfinder game.
 
user15026
@Pixie I wish I could find a group of people. But I also know my work schedule isn't the most friendly to these things.
 
My boyfriend, my best friend, my best friend's boyfriend (who is my boyfriend's best friend)... say that 5 times fast... and I all play and GM RPGs, so we're usually doing something or other.
But schedules are a problem for us, too. Most of us have shift work going on, some of the players are in school as well, and my boyfriend and I have unpredictable fatigue that can sometimes prevent us from participating or participating fully. Adulting is not fair.
I'd like to do more, though. At one point we had Pathfinder, Exalted, and a series of various oneshots all going on simultaneously, and I super miss all the freeform I used to do.
 
user15026
All of that sounds like fun, minus the fatigue and scheduling stuff
 
It is great when we can get things off the ground and keep them running.
 
12:45 AM
@eimyr My wife likes "nerdy fantasy stuff". She's been playing D&D since high school (or earlier?). No interest in non-fantasy genres though, which is a shame cos I like Shadowrun too. (Remembering all the rules is a problem sometimes, partly because she's too used to the older editions of (A)D&D)
 
I've been thinking vaguely about trying to run some oneshots recently, maybe seeing if anyone around these parts wants to play, but I don't know what I'd want to do yet.
 
1:38 AM
@Pixie I'd be up for a oneshot, depending on the theme and system
 
I would be cool with something if the timing lined up
 
1:57 AM
**Cool RPG stuff:** [Bundle of Holding](http://bundleofholding.com "buy RPGs cheap in bulk, support charities & indie designers!");
[ARRPG OGL](http://spiritoftheblank.blogspot.com/2016/04/atomic-robo-ogl-rules-now-availableyes.html "Includes Majestic 12 invention and mission briefing rules!");
[Microscope Oracles online](http://www.lamemage.com/oracles/index.php?swords "randomly generate history ideas for your Microscope games!");
[Unbound RPG](https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/gshowitt/unbound-rpg "Limitless adventures in worlds of your own creation.");
 
Playing with the Microscope Oracles thing. A lot of the results make no sense... (I guess that's true of many random generators)
 
Such as?
 
I prefaced my most recent generator with "Results almost guaranteed to not make sense but (maybe) sound cool anyway. Depending on your definition of cool."
 
There's some weird stuff it's spitting out, but nothing that's nonsensical I've seen yet.
 
Ooh, I hadn't spotted that one. [plays with]
These are neeeeat.
 
2:34 AM
> stagnation of star-metal rebuilds warlords
or
stagnation of warlords rebuilds star-metal
 
As sources of star-metal are depleted, a united society disintegrates into a series of holdings ruled by warlords who control the limited resources of their sectors.
 
In that case (with the first), I'd say that warlords come into power when star-metal, necessary for any number of things, becomes scarce. Whoever controls the star-metal supply amasses power. Or else, the sudden lack of star-metal allows other resources to become relevant again, meaning that those warlords who were not able to amass it can suddenly attain power through other means.
 
OR... As the warlords who suppressed high technology fall to squabbling amongst themselves, rebel scientists are left free to rediscover the secrets of star-metal.
 
The method of its creation was lost long ago, after all.
 
@Adeptus I'm seeing bored provincial thugs enjoying modern remixes of Jefferson Starship tunes as they toodle around in their Land Rovers.
 
2:41 AM
And of course, if we assume "Star-Metal" is the name of a class of mecha, everything changes.
 
Or even that it is actually a genre of music. That's actually a pretty fun possibility.
 
@BESW Like the Gorg from Home, I'm imagining.
(f you haven't seen it, this...
is the mechanical exoskeleton employed by these guys:
So, "star-metal mechas".)
 
Clever.
 
2:57 AM
I'm also now imagining mech suits powered by singing, a la Symphogear, but each one is a different subgenre of metal.
6
 
3:21 AM
alternative metal?
sorry, that was really bad
XD
and somehow I am still proud of myself
 
I think the lesson here is, Everything's a plot if you're mad enough.
DRYH madness talent idea: Pathbending.
For a few dice you can make a path longer or shorter, or lead somewhere nearby that it wouldn't normally. For medium dice, paths take you anywhere you want to go in just a few steps, or you can change the path of a person's career. For all the dice, you can change the path of history itself.
 
3:39 AM
where are you getting the results of these dice from?
 
3:50 AM
oh
its just a normal madness ability, my bad XD
I was not in DRYH mode
 
I'm not sure what kind of nightmare you become when the madness takes you over, though.
 
How do nightmares work in this game? I'm imagining a labyrinth of confused paths looping over and into themselves, ultimately leading nowhere. But that's not knowing a nightmare's mechanical function. :P
 
A nightmare is the NPC monster that a PC becomes when they overuse their madness talent. They're reality-bending beings totally focused on a particular twisted obsession that defines them utterly.
Often their obsession is expressed by trying to control the lives of others to match the nightmare's particular twisted view of the world.
...and due to the nature of DRYH, they're also often horrible puns.
For example, a madness talent to pick up information and talents from objects based on what the objects have been used for before (pick up a guitar and play as well as the best musician to ever use it, pick up an assassin's gun and become a skilled sniper).
As you use the talent you slowly become obsessed with using objects as a way to understand people, and you steal and hoard them.
When you become a nightmare, you lose interest in the objects and become obsessed with the hands which touched the objects. Your own hands wither and fall off, but you can steal a person's hands to gain their insights and talents. You've become The Handyman.
 
4:10 AM
there was also an example of someone bleeding out ants that did stuff for them
I imagine they would become some kind of mass of ants and attack people and make them also bleed ants
 
That person slowly turned into a living hive, yes, but their nightmare obsession was focused on pain--bringing out the inner pain lurking under the skin of everyone else is the only thing which eases the pain of your own existence.
 
ah
 
So you talk to people--and torture them when they won't talk--until they confess their foulest secrets and failings for you to mock and tell to others. You've become The Agony Ant.
 
I see. The obsession for the Pathbender could be change and uncertainty. Over time, they become more obsessed with the gap between expectations and reality and the cruel twists of fate. The nightmare could set out to prove to people that nothing is certain.
What starts out as "Things can always change for the better!" becomes "Things can always take a turn for the worse."
 
@Pixie Heh.
I was thinking of almost the opposite: you become obsessed with controlling the destiny of others, forcing them to make the most optimal choices according to your own twisted priorities. You've become... The Pathfinder.
 
4:15 AM
Ah, I see.
 
[ba-dum tish]
 
The outcome I described could be The Pathbreaker. :P
(although that is an obscure enough word that I'm not sure if the joke is obvious)
 
So far as I can tell, the only requirement for a nightmare is that their obsession easily translate into becoming a direct active enemy to the PCs.
@Pixie [raises hand]
 
if a specific thing is being referenced then I do not get it
 
Nothing specific. The word pathbreaker has a similar meaning to pathfinder or trailblazer and refers to "breaking in" a path where there wasn't one before. But in the case of the nightmare, they're not just breaking in new paths; they're flat out breaking existing ones.
 
4:29 AM
oh
I have never heard that term used before
probably because it has a very similar meaning to pathfinder
 
4:41 AM
Man. Reading a JavaScript guidebook intended for children was the best decision I could have made. I can understand this.
5
 
Nice.
 
I've been doing okay with online guides, but there are some fundamentals I feel like they tend to skip or assume are already clear/will become obvious. So far it's not really anything I haven't done, but sometimes I'm like, "Oh. So that's why that works that way."
 
I almost bought a Humble eBook Bundle of programming-for-kids books. Partly to teach my daughter, partly to learn new languages myself. But I put off deciding, and then the deal ended...
 
Aww. The one I'm using is JavaScript for Kids. It's kinda pricy, but they seem to run coupon codes frequently (the current one is DAFFODEALS for 30% off). They have a bunch of other languages too, but this is the only book I can vouch for personally.
 
morning
 
4:55 AM
@Pixie Wow. Not much cheaper for the ebooks.
 
No. P: I'm glad I bought it, but it was a tough choice.
 
Hey, people who can remember someone's name after meeting them, what's it like to have the powers of a god yet be trapped in a mortal's body
5
I've never seen a tweet get starred that fast before.
 
It's relatable. It also has a cool skeleton.
 
Ahoy.
 
Ohay.
 
5:05 AM
 
 
1 hour later…
6:10 AM
@Pixie That's an unfortunately common thing. A programmer wants to teach his skills but can't remember what it was like to not understand how programming works. Takes a lot of peer review and educating in person to know what they need to learn.
Alternately they're assuming you already know programming, which is reasonable because once you learn programming, you're over a major hurdle - the same principles apply to every other language in the same programming paradigm.
 
That, too.
Even Codecademy, which is pretty widely praised, didn't really illuminate a lot of this stuff for me (though it was valuable in its own way -- learning through doing is good).
 
6:41 AM
@BESW I too wish to know what having this phenominal power is like
 
7:21 AM
morning
 
7:33 AM
morning
 
[wave]
 
8:11 AM
Morning gang :)
@doppelgreener @Pixie I'd assume the most important parts to learn are the units of programming. Logic like IF and WHILE, FOR TO NEXT, variables and eventually functions
I'm watching a really good Stanford university lecture course on youtube at the moment which only assumes you know how to turn on a computer. I want to know how to explain the concepts to other people and see if there's anything I missed in my self-taught education
You can 100% skip the first one, but it explains what the course will be about. There's a lot of admin in there too
He very much puts your mind at ease in the first one too
 
@Polyducks There's the rub: what do you teach when? When do you introduce someone to the concept of reference vs value? When do you teach them about arrays? Classes, instantiation, inheritance, if it's an OO language?
 
8:29 AM
@doppelgreener I doubt there's a strict formula
depends on many things, on people you teach, on programming language, on their goals and so on
 
I don't know anything about teaching programming, but I do know that many of our assumptions about what logically follows from what in learning (like addition -> subtraction -> multiplication -> division) are based more on how we learnt them, than on any objective qualities.
 
some can go through their lives programming simple things and never learning references, pointers or reccursion
and others must learn these things extremely fast because that's what their job calls for
 
(Some studies have shown that addition -> multiplication -> subtraction -> division is more "natural," and many educational systems now use that progression.)
 
It makes sense to, because addition is used in multiplication, subtraction in division
 
@Doppelgreener @polyducks things is, studies shown that there are people, otherwise very smart, who cannot learn programming regardless of their and their teacher's effort
 
8:37 AM
I think as @Sejanus said, it depends on what your end goal is
@eimyr that's more of a case of unlearning bad habits and basic assumptions
often people get tangled up in learning a language when programming is separate from that. You can speak great English but not be a very good essay writer. You can learn to be a very good essay writer and then apply that in any language you learn
(analogy stolen from that Stanford lecture)
 
Hmm. Interesting analogy.
 
I really thought so, and I think it's true. You can define a program without a programming language
"When Sally gets home she gets the milk from the fridge" is a program using logic.
 
While you can pretty much use a given set of essay skills in any language, different cultures use different persuasive structures, so if you're writing to persuade a Chinese audience using American persuasive skills, there's going to be a disconnect.
 
Sure, but I think that's looking too closely at the analogy
even though what you say is accurate of programming too, I think it's over complicating the issue.
 
@Polyducks thats actually incredibly hard. I speak English pretty well, and I can write essays in Lithuanian even better, but I can't write for sh** in English
 
8:41 AM
haha
You seem to write pretty persuasively from what I've seen so far
 
I cant even write good character descriptions when I try to play vtm online with english speaking guys
leave alone short stories and scenarios
 
 
@polyducks There is a test I've read about, that some universities use to admit people to programming classes, which is basically guessing what various pseudocode expressions mean. The catch: it's not about guessing right. It's about guessing consistently.
@Sejanus That's probably because of the exposure to literary works in that language. I have a similar problem.
I can write decently in Polish and handle any amount of English technical writing. I fail to write a nursery rhyme.
 
Within a given language, there's a vast set of not-always-complementary skill sets for different kinds of contexts and goals.
Persuasive, evocative, narrative, technical, and others, each of which have their own myriad subsets.
 
8:45 AM
But that applies to programming languages as well - you may handle python code with no prior exposure, but it won't be very pythonic.
 
@eimyr so true :)
 
Skills like code switching are crucial to any kind of successful communication, whether programming, narrative, conversational...
EG, I chat differently here than I write on the main site, and much differently than I chat on Facebook.
And those are all roughly the same "talking with people on the Internet about RPG-related stuff" category.
 
-_-" you just reminded me how I communicate with my GF at home.
Pure, unadulterated Ponglish.
"Hey, could you pass me my kurtka? Idę na pole a zapowiadali heavy hailstormy."
 
:)))
we use lots of English in everyday conversations too, especially the younger generation does
 
@Sejanus I assume you sorta understand the middle part?
 
8:52 AM
i even understood kurtka :)
 
Well, there is a non-trivial difference between loanwords and anglicisation of everyday speech and intentional multilingual code-switching.
 
But I don't speak Polish, I only know a few words since my hitchhiking
 
In Chamorro when there's a concept which doesn't have a historical word in the language, some people modify an English word, some people modify a Spanish word, and some people create a Chamorro cognate.
 
yeah I did mean code switching. Whole sentences in English
 
I thought Polish is intelligible to Lithuanians.
Oh. Really?
 
8:53 AM
sometimes it's just easier and faster to express yourself in English
especially when you use it every day anyway. Songs in English, films in English, internet in English, rulebooks in English, books in English, youtube videos... you're getting the idea
 
Indeed there are expressions in English that are absent in other languages.
 
Often because English nipped them from some other language. "Ooh, that's handy. I'll take one!"
 
Sometimes your intention is untranslatable without distorting the meaning.
@BESW Is it common to create lots of cognates? I know Irish language is problematic to Irish people, because it uses lots of loanwords, despite having native names (which no one knows)
 
Then, there are concepts in many languages for which most other languages have no equivalent. Some of the core Chamorro values can only be translated into English in a very rough way.
 
@eimyr No, Lithuanian belong to a whole different language group than Polish. Well Polish is more similar to Lithuanian than i.e. English is and I am not even starting on Korean... but still a very different language
 
8:56 AM
@eimyr Not super common, but noticeably.
 
@SEjanus would you be able to understand Estonian or Latvian?
 
Latvian mostly, Estonian is VERY different from Baltic languages
 
Poles don't bother learning Slovakian - almost 100% mutual intelligibility. It's more tricky with Czechs, but with lots of gesticulation and universal words you can go to Croatia and talk in Polish with a degree of success.
@BESW I see. It's a touchy subject in many cases.
 
Like, one of the words for "airplane" is eroplånu, which is just a phonetic translation from English. But another word for it is actually a phrase that translates literally to "air boat."
(And I once ran into a bizarre argument over if it was legit to use the word "boat" for an airplane, which hinged on whether or not the first airplanes a Chamorro would have seen were seaplanes or if they would have landed on a runway.)
 
@Sejanus I've a friend who studied Japanese whilst in high school. Whenever he asked his teacher for the Japanese equivalent of an English word, his teacher would always say: "well, it's not quite the same, but you could say ____". It used to frustrate him a lot! Like, just have out with it! Just tell me what it is! It's the same thing, right? Why say that all the time?
It's only later that he realised that Japanese was truly a totally different language, with a totally different set of ideas, with a totally different root - there were no equivalences. But certain Japanese ideas got encoded into words, and those roughly overlapped with the other ideas English speakers had also encoded into other words.
 
9:01 AM
@doppelgreener haha well thats how it works in real world. 1:1 match is very rare, unless it's at least the same languages group
 
When I work with ESL students (which isn't often, but is increasing), I often give a little etymological history lesson along with a new word.
 
Lithuanian has no separate words for i.e. Teacher and Mentor, we use the same one
 
Chamorro's word for shame is a direct phonetic adoption of "dishonour." The word which is most often translated from Chamorro into English as "shame" covers a MUCH deeper and wider concept enmeshed with the culture's collectivist ethos: it's a concept that English has never really even wanted to talk about, so it gets reduced to "shame."
 
...and this is why programmers can't teach programming.
:)
 
In Polish there is a famous verb "załatwić" [zaw-atv-itch'] which means... erm... to deal with some formal issue by pulling strings and relying on luck and social skill, but without overstepping the boundaries of law, and reach a conclusion that's favourable to yourself.
 
9:06 AM
Successful pedagogies must, at some level, be about finding existing schema to latch onto.
 
Has anyone tried that new browser, Vivaldi?
@eimyr There's an English word for that and I can't think of it
 
I'm sure there isn't.
 
I want to say 'wheedle'
 
@eimyr Chamorro has a word fagaga which means "To talk unkindly about someone in front of them using a language they don't know."
....this happened in our Dog Eat Dog session more than once.
 
haha @BESW that's great
 
9:09 AM
@Polyducks it's not about pandering to anyone. You can "załatwić" something without resorting to shady or morally ambiguous means.
 
Every scene that someone fagagaed a haole, the Natives lost a token for violating the first Rule.
 
@BESW oh, I had forgotten you had done this thing
how was it?
 
We've got a minimal write-up that I'll link you to in Skype, as it has Real Names and Potentially Sensitive Feels.
(Notice re:code-switching, that "fagaga" is conjugated with English suffixes when used in an English sentence.)
 
9:26 AM
@KazimZaidi Hello!
 
[wave]
 
@BESW Same with my multilingual code-switching. We conjugate English verbs so that they fit Polish flexion. Curiously, we don't do it the other way around. I'd posit that it's because infinitive form of Polish verbs sound WEIRD when in context or without a modal verb around them.
 
9:56 AM
@BESW Does Chamorro have words for other vehicles? While I was in NZ, I noticed that the Māori for most means of transport of any mode is “waka”, originally “canoo”
 
Not a lot, no.
And most of them are phonetic transliterations from English or Spanish.
But then, a lot of Chamorro was overwritten by Spanish during the occupation.
 
@Golkopitenko yo
 
@BESW Unfortunately, that makes sense. Both grammar and vocabulary?
 
@eimyr sorry I went to sleep... my prep is doing... fine. It's a bit chaotic, now that I'm trying my games to be as less linear as possible.
 
@Golokopitenko Well, so did I, no need to apologise.
 
10:01 AM
@Anaphory More noticeably vocabulary. The language is enough like Spanish to trip up people who go in confident that their Spanish will make learning it easier.
 
yeah, it sounds so much like Spanish
 
@BESW Spanish native here, what's the subject at matter?
 
but it isn't directly translatable all the time
 
@Golokopitenko The original native language of my island, and how it was changed through a few hundred years of Spanish rule.
 
what island would that be?
 
10:03 AM
Guam
 
@Golokopitenko … and contact linguistics in general.
When code switching, how do you change phonology? I sometimes notice that when I code-switch in a surprising situation, the sounds stay too similar to the other language.
 
I do that automatically
it's...weird
 
Myself, I'm only fluent in English. I'll use some Chamorro words as appropriate for the situation, and my tones and rhythms will shift.
 
Also, sometimes I code switch to the wrong language in response to an unexpected code switch to a language I'm less familiar with. [English Conversation] – Someone else: “Merci” – Me: “De Nada” [Confused look].
 
@Anaphory Same. I speak differently in Polish and English, but when I switch, sometimes it sounds weird
 
10:11 AM
I think there was a study that concluded that we do indeed have different personalities when speaking in different languages
 
I dunno about personalities, but definitely the language we use changes the way we think about things.
 
@Golokopitenko That assumes we have consistent personalities to start with…
 
no idea, maybe I made it up
maybe it was this
 
Interesting! Even though it's not about personality, it's even more on topic, because it's about code-switching ;-)
 
yay
@eimyr you're Polish right?
 
10:27 AM
I am.
 
do you know Lady Pank?
 
I most certainly do.
I've even seen them live once.
Why do you ask?
 
I am in love with the music they made for the animated series o dwoch takich co ukraldi ksiezyc
 
You mean our former President and Prime Minister?
 
10:33 AM
I admire your ability to remember polish names
 
I had to ctrl tab several times to get the title right
kiesdiz...skyedic,...
 
księżyc
(moon)
 
@Golokopitenko classic
 
please tell me that's not a real name
 
10:36 AM
It's not real, but it doesn't sound too impossible.
 
hmm if you break it down it's not that hard
cz = ch right?
 
tch
sz = sh
 
and I thought Russians were crazy for having different letters for different phonems
 
oh, it's the british
 
the British?
 
10:37 AM
if you see a Polish word and you know the phonemes, you will always know the pronunciation
English doesn't have any set pronunciation for a given syllable
 
yes that is also true
 
Having different letters for different phonemes is quite a practical thing!
 
same with Spanish actually
but of course, foreign people go crazy trying to learn all the "combos"
and foreigns learning English, or French go crazy learning the spelling
 
Well, french is at least somewhat consistent in the spelling->pronounciation direction
(even though it is far from obvious)
 
I agree that is less messed up than English on that department
English: fish = ghoti
 
10:40 AM
@Golokopitenko Well, that's not true either.
 
There is no case where ghoti would be pronounced fish.
 
it's a bit of a joke, but take this
gh as in tough
 
I know the joke
 
ah ok
 
10:42 AM
But the bad thing is not that gh can be pronounced “f” in certain circumstances. It's that even when in nearly the same circumstances in a different word, it's not /f/ any more.
tough ≠ thought ≠ though
 
I used to think the gh in tough was pronounced as... "c" in Spanish
 
English is more of a creole than a coherent language of its own, so it borrows other languages' rules along with the words it's adopting, then applies them to other words from other languages haphazardly as it goes.
 
but I'm not sure if English has that phonem at all
 
And then every now and then some person or group tries to standardise things, and that just makes it all get more confused.
 
@BESW Also many of those rules come from some kind of creolization or similar of different dialects, and temporary evolution and sound changes.
 
10:44 AM
(Like the time some British linguists decided Latin has the best conjugation, so English should use that.)
 
@Golokopitenko as in "ca" or as in "ci"? European or American Spanish?
 
as in ci/ce
 
@Anaphory It's pretty fascinating, and gives the thing a certain fluidity of implementation which is actually quite useful, but it's also horribly frustrating for anyone who wants to "get it right," because English has never had a "right" to get.
 
or as in "z+vowel" in Spanish
 
Chamorro has a sound (represented by "y") which is roughly similar to the Colombian "ll."
But English speakers usually approximate it as "z" or "j."
 
10:47 AM
ah, like latin american "y"?
yerba, for example
 
@BESW That's how you get "ye Olde"
 
@Golokopitenko Isn't that just θ, as in "thunder"?
 
More like a "dz" or "dj" sound.
 
@eimyr No, that's from a þ/y merger
 
That's precisely what I'm saying.
 
10:49 AM
@Anaphory it is! damn I forgot about that
 
approximating Chamorro "y" as a "z" or "j" goes right in the thorn becoming y direction
 
so I used to think that tough was pronounced as "thouTH"
and not "tóff"
 
@eimyr One is a property of a writing system, the other one a phonetic shift?
@Golokopitenko Isn't there something where gh is pronounced θ? I think so, but I cannot remember.
 
I've absolutely no idea. But gh in tough is pronounced as f, right? not θ. Or does it depend on the accent?
fun fact: I learned to pronounce "tough" properly thanks to Dawn of War's orks
 
@Golokopitenko As far as I have ever heard it, yes, it's f.
 
10:57 AM
@Golokopitenko Da Foolz!
In their METAL BAWKSES!
 
I prefer Cornholio The Cultist
Khorneholio*
 
eheheh
 
\m/
I only read "METAL"
 
BTW, @DoomedMind, you might find Graphic Design helpful re: layout programs and so forth.
 
11:15 AM
@BESW yeah, you're probably right :) thanks
 
@Anaphory At least in the English language, I know of absolutely no instance of 'gh' being equivalent to 'th'.
 
@doppelgreener I did confuse it with the case where it is /p/. Hiccough.
 
@Anaphory 'gh' is an odd beast that has suffered greatly from the language's pronunciation changes. :D
 
11:30 AM
It is! Now let's wait a bit longer and see where it goes ;)
 
@Anaphory that's a Fate approach to language!
@Golokopitenko Are you planning on picking up Fate or some Apocalypse World game?
 
@eimyr Or Apocalypse World. It's not Story First but Play to find out what happens, after all…
 
@Anaphory You're right.
 
@eimyr not anytime soon
when the current campaign ends I'll propose it, but it might or might not work with us
 
You don't need to play it to read the rulebook ;)
 
11:45 AM
yeah of course
 
In fact, I read the AW rulebook because it sounded awesome, and then I looked for a game of it some time later when it made post-apocalypse palatable to me. And DW is my go-to book to recommend to people interested in GMing, because it makes assumptions explicit.
I like explicit assumptions, even when they don't apply, because then you can sort out the difference between what the reference says and what should be the case.
 
explicit assumtions?
 
GM agenda, rules and principles, mostly.
 
DW is the book I'd use when I want to run D&D.
 
It also bakes themes and genre conventions into the options and mechanics.
 
12:08 PM
> SHUTTLETATO
Function: Spaceworthy techno-organic shuttlecraft
Flaw: Handles like a potato
- Psychic Interface: You can use Will or Vehicles to pilot the shuttletato.
- Metal Potatoskin: Has mild and moderate consequence slots.
- Crumple Zones: Characters inside the shuttletato can use its consequence slots to absorb physical stress directed at them.
@doppelgreener, @trogdor [gestures up] Seem reasonable?
 
I think this is reasonable
what is Tom Bakers vehicle and will score?
 
+4 for both.
 
oh
I am not sure what the purpose of having that stunt is? other than flavor I guess
 
Well, if say Llyan has to grab the helm, he's got a +1 in Vehicles and a +3 in Will.
It's mostly flavour, but could be relephant.
 
@BESW I cracked up laughing at "Handles like a potato".
 
12:14 PM
(Especially as it implies potentially being able to give a teamwork bonus if you've got Will but not Vehicles.)
@doppelgreener Success!
My idea is, it's very safe but not very sexy. Just a practical ship-to-planet shuttlecraft for getting passengers from A to B safely.
It's a commuter shuttle.
 
@BESW "Watch out! What do you think you're driving, a truck full of potatoes?" "A potato."
 
Anybody can drive it (Will), and it's designed with passenger safety first and last. Speed, grace, style? Meh.
 
@BESW I'd also recommend the Shuttletatoes to be prone to catching fire and be bothersome to service and upkeep, so people often want to get rid of them. Literal hot potatoes.
 
@eimyr Heheh. That's probably a bit too much to put into something I plan to crash in the first ten minutes of the session.
 
yeah
we don't need to go toooo into depth in what it is like
 
12:20 PM
@BESW stunt rename idea Crumple Zones -> Mashed Potato
 
....yes.
 
Can I also suggest Metal Potatoskin -> Jacket Potato ?
 
Not getting it.
 
I just want to make potato puns.
 
12:42 PM
i was thinkin' of an "assault and vinegar" stunt
 
[groan]
 
or renaming crumple zone to "crinkle zone"
@eimyr this is good too >:D didn't see this one
> Assault & Vinegar: Anything physically hit by the shuttletato takes stress equal to the value of the consequences the shuttletato takes for it.
 
Vinegar would make the potato repulsive
 
context is that salt & vinegar is a popular chip flavor
 
I am aware of that.
 
12:47 PM
i see you have opinions on this flavour
 
Very strong ones.
 
I'm with @eimyr on this.
 
@eimyr like the flavour itself
 
Also about people who put vinegar of french fries / chips
 
Vinegar is an ingredient, not a condiment.
 
12:48 PM
yeah, I like it in certain recipes, but not by itself XD
 
There is no excuse to use vinegar in anything.
 
as an Australian I have been conditioned to tolerate the salt & vinegar flavour, though it doesn't rank very high for me. i'd take it before chips that use non-foods to imitate non-flavours (e.g. barbecue and chicken), though.
 
I can accept aceto balsamico, or some variations on wine vinegar, but the standard one is plain awful.
 
(but i'd be more likely to take not eating chips at all before any of those)
 
I use apple cider vinegar in sweet-and-sour recipes, and some form of mild vinegar is crucial to vegan baking.
 
12:51 PM
I was about to bring up: balsamic vinegar as a salad dressing? (I've had some enjoyment with it.)
 
@doppelgreener The Brits have very curious ideas what should and shouldn't be a potato chip flavour. I get Salt, I understand Onion, but Prawn Cocktail? Come on! In Poland (and mainland Europe) we eat mostly Paprika and Spring Onion.
 
When I'm feeling especially ambitious, I make a salad dressing that uses orange juice for its kick.
 
@eimyr Prawn Cocktail's a strange-sounding one...
 
They taste like nothing in particular.
 
Here we have like... lime & black pepper, or lime & thai sweet chilli, which I might miss if it doesn't exist in the UK.
Red Rock Deli is a wonderful chip brand and, I think, only Australian & NZ.
 
12:53 PM
"Cheese and onion" is also a thing in the Isles.
 
I am familiar with this combination and dislike it on a chip
 
hmm cheese and onion
 
It just sunk in, it's not going to be the big things I'll have trouble adjusting to once I move to another country. It's going to be the little things, like all the chip flavours being slightly different.
 
curious combination there
 
@doppelgreener You're just listing Walker's Sensations flavours.
 
12:56 PM
@doppelgreener Folks who come to Guam from the mainland usually take weeks to months before culture shock sets in, because it's enough like the mainland that they don't go looking for all the differences and the changes creep up on them.
Then suddenly WHAM it hits them that they're in a very different sort of place than they'd been acting like.
 
I'm pretty sure the crisp selection in AUS is the same as in GB
 
@eimyr That brand seems to exist in Australia (under the name Lay's) but they don't have those flavours and tend to be unremarkable here. As in: Lay's chips are more commonly kinda a little bit soggy with oil, Red Rock Deli chips are just perfectly crisp and dry enough and crunch so satisfyingly.
 
00:00 - 13:0013:00 - 23:00

« first day (2016 days earlier)      last day (2946 days later) »