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1:22 AM
@eimyr I assume the trapezoid sits lowest, with the short base on the desk, and a kite-shaped monitor is above that, most-acute angle pointing to the right. That right, @Polyducks?
 
 
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4:11 AM
 
 
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5:16 AM
Nice
I am most amused
 
looks exactly like a horse
 
 
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6:39 AM
yeah, they're not horsing around with the production quality at all
 
7:12 AM
I wonder if it's unfair to severely penalize a PC for killing a magical pig.
 
Depends on context. What's the sitch? In-game penalties arbitrarily given often create resentment.
 
8:05 AM
morning
 
@Sejanus morning
 
8:47 AM
Yo
 
9:16 AM
@Polyducks Hi!
How are your monitors?
 
@Pixie @Eimyr to answer all the questions, my monitors are arranged from laptop, portrait, widescreen
haha
and I've lined them all up so that the mouse moves from left to right smoothly
 
So you made an S shape?
 
hrmm
I'm trying to think how I can show it in text
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Like that
laptop, portrait, wide
It's actually very comfortable
in the portrait one I have my code editor and ftp connection
left I have my file nav and skype
right I currently have you guys but it's mainly my browser window
 
I thought it's your setup at home.
 
Photoshop wizards work their magic with Benedict Cumberbatch as Dr. Strange http://on.mash.to/1N7lv8p https://t.co/abQ0p8NTeT
 
9:24 AM
lol
 
haha
@Eimyr nah, this is my work setup because I spend most of my time here
 
@BESW I'd really like to see a movie starring Benedict Cumberbatch and Tom Hiddleston. It doesn't have to have any other actors, story or plot. Just Hiddlebatch, both well dressed, smiling, being very polite to each other.
 
Throw in Keanu Reeves and I'll watch it.
 
Why Keanu?
I am also undecided whether it's a Hiddlebatch or Cumberston. One sounds like a pile of something wiggly and funny, the other like a gherkin-related illness.
 
Keanu has a reputation as being one of the nicest, most actively drama-avoidant actors on his side of the Pond.
 
9:39 AM
Seems to fit well at least, probably the most polite actors i know of
 
So if we're getting a bunch of actors together to be nice to each other, he should be invited.
 
That I know, but if I were going for just nice actors I'd have to include more of them. I was thinking of actors who are known to routinely portray very polite characters in addition to being nice and moderate in real life.
 
Ah.
...Tom Hanks.
 
Stephen Fry comes to mind.
+1 for Hanks.
Emily Blunt?
Well, she has diverse casting roles, it might not be perfect.
Same with Daniel Radcliffe.
Hmmm
 
Capaldi seems insanely nice, but he's best known for epically abrasive roles.
 
9:46 AM
Oh! Oh! Christoph Waltz.
He might play psychos, but they are polite psychos.
 
I really don't pay much attention to actors' personal lives, so I'm not gonna be a big help.
 
well, me neither, but I have ideas about them
BTW I also find Michael Madsen and Mads Mikkelsen very confusing.
 
VTC off topic, video game question
 
@doppelgreener That's more of a game developer question
Nice comment :)
 
10:02 AM
Maybe should throw that comment onto the comment meta.
 
10:35 AM
I don't understand how the meta works
 
@BESW I was actually thinking of suggesting to upgrade the close reason with that info
 
Ooh, nice
 
11:08 AM
also i bought a couple of dozen fairly pretty d6's, so our d6 quantity issues may be a thing of the past now ;D
 
Nice.
Also, I'm totally going to use the Jaded Park Ranger for my next PC. Forget all the other stuff I was working on.
 
Ok. :)
 
cool
 
Ooooooooooohhhh... that could be worthwhile for any of the sessions Dan and I might run soon.
 
He's totally and completely Normal. Action, Banter, Science. He's just had a lot of experience dealing with wild animals, wild tourists, wild politicians, and wild disasters.
When stuff gets Weird, the same basic problem-solving skills still apply.
I'm thinking he's from a South African wildlife preserve.
I don't wanna get much more detailed than that, just let it play out.
 
11:22 AM
seems like a plan
 
(This throws in "able and willing to shoot poachers" as one of his job requirements, which makes him more of a viable guy to have in a fight.)
 
11:38 AM
....I should probably give him a name.
 
11:50 AM
@BESW Frik VanDerMerwe !
Are you thinking Afrikaner or black SA?
 
Leaning toward black, maybe Zulu. [is researching]
 
Then that name is probably off
 
Probably.
 
@BESW Don't go for easy stuff! Be a Xhosa!
 
@eimyr Oh, man. The clicks.
 
11:54 AM
@BESW And the breathe-in phonemes.
Well, actually I think I've been mistaken about the ingressive phonemes. Welp.
 
Thulani seems legit while being reasonable to ask all the players to work with.
 
I work with a dude from SA.
And some people quite familiar with SA in general.
I think Thulani is alright to work with.
BTW, have you seen Chappie? Wolverine in shorts with a gun is just about the perfect rendition of a stereotypical Afrikaner.
 
I gotta hit a balance between "legit" and "asking my friends to learn click consonants."
 
If you want to make his first language Afrikaans, then you simply have to do a bad Dutch accent in English and you'll be fine.
 
Not even gonna try for an accent. That way lies disaster.
Speech patterns maybe a little.
 
 
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1:15 PM
My beloved brethren...
 
that escalated quickly
 
@eimyr I just read your answer to this rpg.stackexchange.com/questions/78281/…
loved it
 
And?
 
we actually have had this condurum
 
Oh! Nice to hear I'm being useful.
what was your solution?
 
1:18 PM
Shadowrun's rules include memory tests
so we did that
god I love Shadowrun's rules
 
(you're running Shadowrun in WH40k, aye?)
 
Not infrequently I've misremembered details and events as the GM. When players notice, sometimes I go "Oh, yes, you're right." And sometimes I double down and make the change a plot point.
 
I guess memory tests do make sense, but I'd use them in the second situation, when player remembers but the character is supposed to forget.
 
exactly, eimyr
and BESW, I think me and my players have collectively forget stuff
or like, mixed names, then I've checked on my notes after the game and I've said "screwed, his name is X now"
aww crap I tried to edit, but I messed everything up
whatever
 
1:25 PM
@Golkopitenko I updated it with rolling bits.
@Golokopitenko the game that I'm playing now (sadly last session this Friday) saw the GM use Welsh-inspired place names. He had us find and investigate a place called Matrain Farm. I have totally missed the spelling the first time I've heard it, but thought someone else would know. Couple scenes later, we need to ask for directions and no one seems to have noted down the farm's name. So I talk to the NPC and politely ask him whether he knows the way to the Metroid Farm. Cue laughter.
 
Speaking of forgetting details, @doppelgreener, @trogdor, we've never revisited the fact we established in our first session: the Mousers are standard high-end security hardware in our world and not considered Weird at all.
I think that in the wake of pandemic Weirdness there are some great opportunities to make that relephant again.
 
@Golokopitenko We took the directions and casually referred to the place as Metroid Farm, because it was hilarious. We actually expressed our willingness to retrofit the farm with a Metroid name, but the GM didn't like it, showed us a NO FUN ALLOWED face and the NPCs were giving us blank stares until we apologised and asked him to spell out the bloody farm's name.
@BESW Mousers? Wat is dat?
 
Mousers are rat-hunting robots controlled by one of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles' enemies.
In our campaign, they're used for automated security.
 
@BESW GASP. YES. we must revisit these.
man i love that exchange we had. "there's gonna be some security in the air ducts." "since this is action science, can the security be robots?" "ok. time to get past some mousers."
 
We also haven't ever had the Mercenary Canadian Atomic Moles show back up, but I figure they'll become relephant when we start dealing with whatever's going wrong underground.
 
1:49 PM
"Mercenary Canadian Atomic Moles" might be an album released by a P-Funk/Adam Ant fusion band.
 
@eimyr I was having lunch, I'll read your stuff now
 
Isn't that a band trio of a chemists?
 
aww that's too bad, eimyr, I'd allow to use the name jokingly, but have the NPC be clueless about it
I might just be too used to that. My players and I have a record of making puns out of NPC names
 
2:05 PM
@BESW XTC vs. Adam Ant, if you don't know it....
 
2:16 PM
any tips on session-making?
I'm always against the ropes
 
Erm... What tips would you like?
Any particular problems, @Golokopitenko?
 
it takes me so long to make my games
and I often get to our sessions unfinished
 
I see.
Have you seen the Alexandrian's guide to game prep?
 
no
that Alexandrian guy sure is knowledgeable
btw...! you showed me a guide to make dungeons, I can't remember the name of the method
 
Erm...
Perhaps...
 
2:29 PM
it had a fancy name
 
For dungeons Alexandrian recommends Jaquaying the dungeon, for plots/investigations it's Node-based design
 
Jaquaying. That.
It's the only one thing I forgot to bookmark
 
I don't know why he picked that name, it's silly
 
it's fancy
Jaquaying. It rolls off your tongue
 
I think it's after a name of a guy or sth, who made very interconnected dungeons
 
3:06 PM
Hello everyone!
 
hello
what's new?
 
Oh wow, a lot actually
Including, but not limited to, employment
Starting a job next week
And at the same time, I'm getting quite into RPGs again, but I either don't have the time or the confidence to run one
 
hi Alex
 
Hey!
 
Congratulations!
 
3:11 PM
Thanks! I'm intimidated as hell though
And college is still draining my energy
Pointlessly
 
What are you going to do?
Is that a job you're looking forward to?
 
Yeah, virtual machines, Python
Plus, I could use some money to be a bit more relaxed about ever spending any..money
 
cool
 
Still, I really want to run an RPG, and the RPG people I don't really like any more, and the people I like a lot aren't necessarily very RPG-ish
Hey, Doppelgreener
 
@AlexMitan There is still hope!
New people or old people with new interests.
I took my girlfriend for a boardgaming evening at my (not hers) friend's house. I was amazed by how much she enjoyed it, despite not really being into boardgames in general or nerd group meetings.
@PichiWuana Hello!
 
3:20 PM
heh I've also been trying to get mine into RPGs
just explaining a bit of the rules made her reconsider...
 
Heh, yeah, she's my main player though
 
I wouldn't go that far. I know she doesn't like it.
 
@Golokopitenko What rules?
 
Shadowrun
5th edition
 
Oh... I don't know if that's a good first game
 
3:21 PM
hmmm too complicated? I find it easier than Pathfinder to be honest
 
ANYTHING IS EASIER THAN PATHFINDER!
 
Yeah wow
 
well, ok, 3.5e isn't
 
AHÁ! so it's not me
 
I tried D&D first and it b o m b e d
 
3:22 PM
@Golkopitenko have you tried a new wave system of some sort?
 
Second attempt, FAE, rocked
 
faet?
 
Say, Dungeon World, FAE?
FAE = Fate Accelerated Edition
 
Fate, but even easier
 
Fate for Dummies
 
3:23 PM
Eh, not for dummies, just different in an easier way
 
no, Fate for quick games where how is more important than what
no, wait
the other way around
 
Good to get players into the Fate mindset
No, FAE is how, Fate Core is what, you're good
Honestly I do want to try Core next though
Maybe even pick up from where I last left off in FAE
 
quick question, how do I get my nobodies-players into a high ranking meeting, barring infiltration?
 
I'd say that our significant others often have two objections to classic DnD games: 1) it has nerdy fantasy stuff and 2) It has all those stupid rules
@Golokopitenko what is the meeting?
 
they are going to discuss the reconstruction of the city and a declaration of war
 
3:26 PM
So, objection 1 is easily avoided by picking a familiar setting, e.g. favourite video game, movie or book universe.
Objection 2 - pick an easy system, Powered by the Apocalypse or FAE or some other easy dice/diceless is a good choice.
 
my gf found the nerdy aspect interesting, but found the rules just tedious and complicated
 
Fate fixes both objections
In fact, many examples in the 'books are realistic modern-day things
 
Dungeon World IS mainly fantasy though
 
Just right for Golokopitenko's GF it seems.
 
3:29 PM
maybe, I don't know
 
Oh, wait, I thought Golo said his GF objects to nerdy fantasy stuff
 
@Golokopitenko And why are they included in that discussion?
 
Ok, I say this with pride, but if anything the player that enjoyed D&D the MOST was my gf
 
No, I did as a general comment of what usually happens in my experience
 
that's what I wonder... they technically shouldn't @eimyr maybe they could be testimonies for the incursion they did on an enemy camp, earlier
 
3:30 PM
But while she did, I feel like she just managed to avoid the D&D rules while RPing and sneaking around to compensate
The rules were either forgotten, hated or tolerated because of awesome RP
 
IMO RP > Rules
good RP beats good rule use/knowledge
that is... for player points
style points, or whatever
 
That's one of the Fate rules, no
Silver rule was it
"Never let the rules be in the way of the narrative"
 
Do the players have some unique characteristic others do not?
 
you mean mine? well, there's the ork who is an ork in a human planet
 
Golo, if you ran any successful-ish game in a well-liked setting with an unloved system, just use Fate in that setting, it's gonna be okay
 
3:32 PM
I hear you
maybe we'll revive a campaign we left because it grew stale
but it was more a character problem, and a lack of lore knowledge problem
 
I ran a "get my feet wet" one-on-one with my gf just outside Skyrim's Whiterun
 
get my feet wet?
 
try someting and get some experience
 
Yep... some quick char-gen in FAE, me having a slightly tense but surprisingly good time GMing
Was great
 
@Golokopitenko OK, why do you want them in that meeting?
 
3:35 PM
to give plot exposure
to meet new characters
 
do they want to attend that meeting?
 
character wise? at least one of them
player wise? no idea
maybe I should rebuild the exposure
have them be at a feast celebrating the latest victory and see the high ranking members from afar... then some soldiers comment on them
 
In fate, don't plan too far ahead, if in Pathfinder-likes they have more or less a set of "controls" for their characters, a bunch of main buttons
in Fate they'll very soon realise that they can do a lot more
Because Fate doesn't split actions into mechanical and RP, you don't have "Fireball, Sneak Attack and RP"
You have action archetypes, like Overcoming something or Creating an Advantage, which they WILL use however they can
 
don't you have skills and such?
 
You do have skills in Fate, but everything else is done using the same one mechanic
In FAE you don't even have skills - just Approaches, which are the "how"
 
3:44 PM
Skills like Notice or Provoke or approaches like Forceful or Clever are thematic, flat bonuses to the actions you can take at pretty much any given point
Overcoming something, the typical "door" with Physique or Burglary is naturally going to be very different, but it's still an Overcome
Although in the middle of a fight I guess you could... attack it..?
Which brings you to the fact that anything can be a character in Fate, a snowstorm could attack, overcome, create advantages, have stress, traits
Hell, there's a Fate book about firefighters as a main theme, and the fires themselves are a mix of zones and characters
 
a snowstorm... could be a character?
 
It's a Bronze rule.
Because in Fate there are only four Actions anything can ever do (Attack, Defend, Overcome and Create an Advantage) you can imagine that inanimate objects can also "attack" by dealing damage etc.
 
Yeah, I mean... think about a bunch of Russian soldiers trying to fight and survive all the while a massive, avoidable but ultimately undefeatable blizzard ravages both you and the enemy
 
I see
 
Fate deals a lot in "narrative permission"
Hide in warm places or equip yourself well and the snowstorm wouldn't really be allowed to "attack" you, but otherwise everyone is fair game
But that's a pretty particular example, basically the Bronze rule saves up on GM work too
You can model gangs/swarms of enemies as characters
 
3:54 PM
what are these bronze and silver rules?
 
Well, first of all Fate is about creating interesting stories. Everything else is secondary. There is also an assumption that players will contribute to the plot as much as the GM, shaping world etc.
 
Gold: "First figure out what you want to do, then use what you need to do it"
Silver: "Never let the rules be in the way of the narrative"
Bronze: "Anything can be modelled as a character"
Maybe a better example for Bronze is vehicles: Quite easy to have a car/boat be treated like a character
Or more commonly, a spaceship
It's probably going to happen soonish in my game, there's floating islands and ships
I'm a -bit- obsessed with skyboats, I know
 
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