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12:00 AM
Wait, what time is it for you right now?
Either 9 or 11, I know, but not which.
 
Ben
My housemate was up before I was, she was in the living room and said good morning when I first came out of my bedroom. I didn't even register her. Lol
@Miniman 10, actually
QLD doesn't do DST
 
Oh, right. So this is the half of the year where it's the same.
(I'm really bad at DST.)
 
Ben
Same haha
 
Btw, does anyone remember how long a question has to exist before you can bounty it?
(The help centre is painful on mobile.)
 
Ben
@Miniman 2 days I think?
 
12:06 AM
@Ben Yeah, I just found it.
 
Ben
I wanna do DH/RT, but the DM doesn't like the "dark theme" of the game, which is fair. So instead we started another 5e game, which I wanted; I want to try and develop a character past level 4. But I'm really starting to feel like he doesn't like the way I want to play the game; I'm the "loose end" or the "wild card" he has trouble controlling.
I've been the one to try and clarify any miscommunication between us, and try and come to a solution, but he doesn't appear to want to be the one that was wrong.
 
On the plus side, I mentioned the CoS thing in the D&D Beyond server and a user there quickly offered to run it for us :)
 
Oh, I assumed your DM wanted to run a campaign of their own devising.
 
Ben
@Miniman Me or V2Blast?
 
V2Blast.
 
12:16 AM
@Miniman Well, I assume they do, but I assume they haven't yet made that campaign yet
 
Ben
C/N Player: I killed the bad guy
Paladin: you destroyed the city and killed 5000 people
C/N Player:
 
lol
 
Thanks I hate it :P
 
@Ben This reminds me of Captain America murdering half the population of the universe because he couldn't accept killing one robot.
 
12:31 AM
@Miniman lol burn
 
Ben
It wasn't America though. So that's fine
 
@Ben yeah but he could have stopped it and decided not to because good is dumb
 
Ben
@trogdor I suppose in this context "good" is another word for "applicable"
 
@Ben wait how could she possibly be both of those?
Oh yeah,... That
No see that's what I was saying was bad
Also the show
It's bad
 
Ben
12:39 AM
Again, not saying it's "good" as in "acceptable", I'm saying it's "good" as in "both are applicable labels"
 
Or at least the ending but that kinda drags all of it down really, I don't even think the ending as it was is bad,... If they bothered to put any work into setting it up
@Ben yeah no that's not what I was saying at all, I'm just saying it's still bad
Can you tell I'm maybe still mad about that abrupt ending?
 
Ben
We have one game where 2/3 of us are CN, and one is LG. We're currently on the way to his execution because his character consorted with demon to gain magical power (which was against the laws of his home country), and has recently been captured. He reckons he's going to repent, and face his trial, but the GM has made it clear that they are going to execute him.
The GM has even given us multiple opportunities to escape, but "it is his duty to face the consequences"
 
hey @trogdor and hey again @nitsua60
 
Ben
The other 2 of us are basically just going with it, cos, well... we getting paid to escort a prisoner.
 
@Shalvenay hiya
 
12:44 AM
@nitsua60 now a good time for us to talk a bit in Discord?
 
@Shalvenay hi
 
@Shalvenay fire away
 
@trogdor Now that I think about it, it's actually continuing the Civil War stuff - Cap believes he (and only he) has absolute moral authority.
 
@Miniman I can't disagree with that
Though Stark can't even take responsibility for his own actions
They are both a mess
XD
I still feel like that whole movie was executed extremely poorly
 
Ben
Ignorance is power
> Ignorance is power: you can choose to reject a situation. Negate the effect of the last outcome you rolled, and replace it with your own.
 
12:58 AM
@trogdor Yeah, I doubt the tie-in was deliberate, either.
 
@Miniman which one?
 
Ben
@trogdor I have a question over on sf&f about the effects of messing with time travel in Endgame. At the moment, it's been dv'd and I think closed as unclear, but I think I potentially haven't put across my point properly. Wouls someone be able to assist me with getting my intended question across?
 
@trogdor Infinity War using the "Cap thinks he's God" theme that was developed in Civil War.
 
Ah yeah I doubt it too
@Ben I haven't watched Endgame XD
 
Ben
@trogdor The ping was more just referring to your point haha, not directly at you
 
1:03 AM
Mm
Fair enough
 
Ben
1:37 AM
Could you use Prestidigitation (or a similar cantrip) to throw your voice?
Or actually, you could just use it to make "harmless sensory effects".
I'm just thinking you could throw sounds around, to create theremin sounds and the "chh-chh-chh… cah-cah-cah" sounds to freak out people you're sneaking around
 
Minor Illusion explicitly does that.
Prestidigitation arguably does it too.
 
Ben
10 ft vs 30 ft range, 1 hour vs 1 minute duration.
 
@Ben But also, if you want people to think you're sneaking around, the correct method is to bounce bits of pottery off their head.
 
Ben
That's not a skyrim reference. Lol
Or is it?
 
It's a Groundrim reference
 
1:51 AM
@Ben I take it you haven't played Sekiro yet :P
 
Ben
@Miniman Ohh true.
I have, but not extensively, and not for a while. My controller is busted.
 
@Miniman oh yeah you can throw those at people
 
@Ben Oh, good. I was certain you'd played it.
 
You would think they would be ready for a ninja to muder them after someone threw something hard and sharp at them and they walked right to where it was
 
@trogdor You do eventually get a better way to achieve the same effect.
 
Ben
1:53 AM
Yeah. I'm in that "on the wall" phase. I can see why people both like and dislike it, and I am yet to make up my own mind
 
@Miniman but they still fall for the first one XD
 
@trogdor I mean, you'd think they wouldn't watch a guy murder their buddy then forget he ever existed just because he ran around a corner, but here we are.
 
@Miniman maybe they didn't like him very much and assume you don't either
XP
 
@trogdor Yep, although some of the later enemies are much more perceptive, so when they turn to look at where the shard came from they just straight up notice you.
 
Wow
Ok
Fair enough
 
1:57 AM
The improved version can do the same thing on a delay, so you can set it up then hide before it goes off.
And of course there's always candy of invisibility.
 
Oh that's clever
Definitely a way sneakier way to do that
But like I said, straight throwing hard sharp stuff at someone isn't very sneaky to begin with XD
But somehow those idiot Samurai still fell for it constantly
 
@trogdor Yeah, it's basically a ceramic shard catapult with a mechanical timer.
 
Ok that's pretty cool
 
I was kidding, sadly.
 
Oh
Dang
Oh well
 
2:01 AM
lol
 
I'm sorry for toying with your emotions like that.
 
you're tearing me apart Lisa
 
@Miniman lol I've survived a lot worse
 
Ben
@V2Blast Oh hi mark
 
"Hug Proxy" would be a good name for a band.
 
Dec 9 '15 at 2:01, by BESW
(Dave Barry, for those who don't know, is the inspiration for the meme.)
in Fate chat and game room, Oct 21 '14 at 10:08, by BESW
The humour columnist Dave Barry had a decades-long running gag where any time he'd use a particularly bizarre phrase in one of his articles, he'd note that it would make a good name for a band.
 
hey there @user11547911, welcome to the RPG.SE lair :)
 
Ben
3:12 AM
@BESW WE ll there you go. I learned something today. Now I can go to bed.
 
Ash
Nah it's too early for bed
 
Ash
3:40 AM
@BESW I read this today after you recommended it and I really really enjoyed it. I loved the world building.
 
4:04 AM
@Ash I just finished it too, it's a good story
@Ben yeah I'm aware of Bethesda sneakery shenanigans
I made a stealth character in Fallout 3 and it was ridiculous what I got away with just for crouching
 
It's so cool how many awesome stories are free online!
 
Ben
@trogdor I'm sure I've seen a parody of this. PC has sneak 100, and vanishes whenever they crouch
 
Ash
@BESW I love when I find good stories that way
 
I've started reading some free books on my fire tablet and so far I've read two good ones and none that are downright bad
@Ben they also had items you could use to go Even higher than 100 if you were already maxed out too
Though the covers of a lot of them don't look like something I want to read
Still, it's extremely nice to have already found some I like
 
4:20 AM
I was intrigued by a Starfinder "explore the universe"-type campaign someone advertised on the D&D/TTRPG server I'm an admin in (no, not that one, a different one :P) and somehow got sucked in because the DM decided to set it for Sunday night so I could play...
so now I'm reading the Starfinder rules. never played it before
 
Ben
@V2Blast From what I know, it is very level dependant.
 
@Ben what do you mean?
 
Ben
Like, if you're level 1, and you loot a level 2 pistol, you can't use it until you're level 2.
 
ah
 
Ash
@trogdor I find the free stuff is very hit and miss for me but I figure hey if I give up on it or don't like it at least it didn't cost me anything
 
4:23 AM
I'm still just figuring out how to make my character
 
Ben
Personally, I have no experience with it, I've only heard ramblings from my GM
 
@Ash yeah I figured that too, that's why I downloaded about 5 of them a couple days ago
 
I figure if I don't like what I'm reading I didn't pay for it anyway
Maybe I should be less picky about what I try too
 
Ash
4:43 AM
Yeah I often use it as an excuse to try things I might not otherwise try
 
Seems like what I should try too
I lose Nothing except a little time
And that's going to go by anyway
 
Ash
This is true.
 
I have some trouble branching out to other genres when reading though
So I'm going to have to work on that a bit if I want to read non sci Fi/ fantasy stuff
 
Ash
Sometime if you want any romance novel recs we should chat aboit what you think you might like and I can always try recommending some
 
If you know some own voice autistic ones I could start with that
I've only relatively recently realized that was even a thing in books and I've enjoyed all the ones I've read so far
(I've mentioned "an Unkindness of Ghosts" before for example)
I only read that mid last year
And it was the first one
But it's a great book and it was good and I loved it
 
Ash
5:06 AM
Talia Hibbert's Ravenswood books (starts with "A Girl Like Her", I know that one has an autistic main, the rest I don't believe do but they are very good), either of Helen Hoang's books, just off the top of my head
I could probably find more if I wasn't so tired, I will let you know
I still need to read An I kindness of Ghosts but I feel like it might turn me inside out emotionally
 
@Ash definitely wait for a time that you can afford some emotional weight
@Ash no problem I'll look the ones you've mentioned up
But yeah it's,... Not exactly pulling punches
 
Ben
@Ash you are probably the person to ask about this. Considering the last time I spoke about any LGBTQI issues, I presented my stance on the issue rather terribly, but hopefully I can redeem myself.
 
It was relatively easy for me to read but it was my first "access intimacy book" and I don't have most of the discrimination based issues the Main character does
So I definitely caution that it could be a hard read at certain points
But I definitely think it's worth it
As long as you have the emotional energy to spare
At the time of reading,
 
Ben
This might be better off in Not A Bar, though?
 
And of course you can take breaks too XD
 
5:35 AM
@Ben You can flag messages and ask @BESW to migrate them if you want.
 
Ben
Yeah, I'm aware, thanks. I decided to have the conversation there regardless, so nothing to worry about (unless they feel these messages should be moved as well)
@linksassin How is your day going?
 
just finished watching the Matt Mercer-Stephen Colbert D&D video
you can really see how it's taking him back to his youth playing AD&D :)
 
@Ben Yeah not too bad. I have a pathfinder session tonight which I've been building up to for a while.
Big group of orcs attacking a small village. Players are tasked to defend it. We'll see if they can figure out that the Orcs are being mind controlled by a mind-flayer before it's too late.
Kill the Illithid fight is over. Otherwise they might be going close to a TPK due to the superior numbers of the orcs.
 
Ben
5:52 AM
@linksassin Oh this reminds me. When "building the world", the GM likes to ask for certain details from the players, to sort of "include" them in the world building.
He asked me for a "commonly known D&D monster"
That was dangerous haha
 
@Ben Why would you choose illithid? That's asking for trouble
 
Ben
Oh no I said "owlbear". Haha
 
@Ben much better choice
 
Ben
But it could have been anything. I was dancing around Beholder, or Illithids… I even mentioned the Tarrasque haha
 
Not sure what I would choose.
 
Ben
5:55 AM
Gellatinous Cube
Now I'm regretting my choice hahaha
 
@Ben The Dungeon Master is the most iconic monster in D&D
2
 
Ben
@MikeQ [gasp] how monstrous
 
My most used would be NPCs. I rarely use monsters. I don't love the idea that there is just random monsters roaming around otherwise civilized societies.
Even my orcs get class levels
 
@Ben What's the most commonly known monster in Dungeons and Dragons...hmmm...this is a real puzzle.
 
@Miniman Definitely the mimic. I mean it's in the title Dungeons and Dragons.
Dungeon mimics are terrifying also.
 
6:08 AM
@linksassin Yeah if you want an interesting story, resorting to the "Here be monsters, thus you should punch them" routine won't cut the mustard
 

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