Root Access

Journeyman Geek

7:15 AM

no? ;p

Bob

@HackToHell You can't just look at some service's API and htink that's how you scale, well, anything.

@HackToHell Which phone?

HackToHell

@Bob tbh, i don't make these choices :D I was simply asked to look into them

@Bob Zenphone 2 1080p, 2gb ram version

Bob

@HackToHell cmon you didn't at least go for the 4GB option?

!!disappointed

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Bob

dammit

!!listcommands

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7:19 AM

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Bob

!!disapporval

ChatBot John Cavil

@Bob That didn't make much sense. Maybe you meant: disapproval

Bob

!!undo

eh, good enough

HackToHell

It's 100$ more, for which I could have gotten the Moto X play or something else

This was in the sweet spot

Bob

!!tell 24867818 disapproval

ChatBot John Cavil

7:20 AM

@HackToHell ಠ_ಠ

HackToHell

bad chatbot

!!undo

ChatBot John Cavil

@HackToHell I'm afraid I can't let you do that, HackToHell

:D

-_-

IT HAS GONE RAMPANT

7:21 AM

WE MUST KILL IT NOW

!!die

ChatBot John Cavil

@HackToHell I will shut up after 1 more invocations.

Bob

@allquixotic Didn't you remove that?

HackToHell

This one flipkart.com/asus-zenfone-2-ze551ml/p/…

Bob

@HackToHell btw, it was only $50 difference iirc

maybe less

hm. idrc.

HackToHell

That's only in the US, here there's a 5k inr price diff which translates to about 70$

it's 230$ here instead of the 200$ us price tag for the 2gig one

So the 4gig one is 300$

Bob

7:24 AM

shrug

HackToHell

shrug indeed

Journeyman Geek

So... I just put this question on hold superuser.com/questions/990167/should-i-actually-get-4k

I think the idea behind it is worth salvaging

just not quite sure how it would work out as a question

Clear question with examples

I still don't know if there will be a big difference in a 24' 1080p and 24' 4K screen.

Journeyman Geek

(and yes, I told the op to come on chat. Chat's where the fun stuff happens)

Clear question with examples

Isn't that verifiable?

Journeyman Geek

7:31 AM

@Clearquestionwithexamples: I have a 24" 1080p and a 27 inch 4K

The 4K is almost certainly a better monitor in every way

but But

Clear question with examples

Well you should be able to prove it with some stats

Journeyman Geek

The big issue with 4K is the media hasn't caught up yet

Bob

"Is there a difference?" -- yes. "Can a human detect a difference?" -- probably, at certain sizes, distances and depending on eyesight. "Is there much difference?" Depends, some people wouldn't notice, many won't care. "Should I get it?" <-- very much opinion-based. — Bob 29 secs ago

Journeyman Geek

@Clearquestionwithexamples: Its pretty hard for me to define sharpness.

and little things

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Assuming your old monitor wasn't IPS - that might already make up for a large portion of the difference.

Journeyman Geek

7:33 AM

like display scaling messing up

Bob

IMO you can't compare 4k vs 2k unless you keep all other variables the same.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: Oh, there's that, but I'm not even thinking about stuff like colour and brightness.

Bob

That includes colour calibration, backlighting, display type, etc., etc..

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: Oh, the dell is probably better in every respect

Bob

@JourneymanGeek But when you say better you will be influenced by colour and brightness.

Clear question with examples

7:34 AM

I don't think the word "should" is that bad. If you qualify it, it's not that complicated

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: clearly

I'd actually discourage anyone without a definate use case from getting 4K

Bob

@Clearquestionwithexamples It's not the use of the word "should" but rather that the question is, at the end of the day, asking for a value judgement.

It's basically asking "are the display differences worth the purchase?"

Journeyman Geek

or at the very least consider the possible downsides

(that said, were I working, I'd be budgeting for a second, lesser 4K display. For science)

Bob

Thing is, you simply can't compare "4k vs 2k" with consumer devices.

You would need someone to somehow manufacture otherwise identical panels for a proper scientific test.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: it comes down to "Do I actually need all that resolution?"

and well pixel pitch

(and yes, this is precisely why its opinion based XDXDXD)

Bob

8:14 AM

@tereško => gfycat.com/ImportantEmbellishedBushbaby (potentially NSFW text)

DavidPostill

9:20 AM

@JourneymanGeek superuser.com/questions/990210/…

Journeyman Geek

@DavidPostill: flagged both? ;p

DavidPostill

Spam set question and spam answer. Please nuke both and apply LARTs to the lusers

Not yet, I was about to, you are too fast ;)

Journeyman Geek

lol

Done and done

lol

This is what happens when you have a spam hunting terrier as a mod ;)

HackToHell

9:39 AM

wheee it's here

It's bloody huge

HackToHell

9:58 AM

5.5 inch does not fit well in hand

qasdfdsaq

10:25 AM

@HackToHell: I'm with you on that one. Had to buy a previous-generation phone because I couldn't find a recent flagship that wasn't over 5 inches.

Bob

10:36 AM

@qasdfdsaq xperia compact

qasdfdsaq

10:52 AM

@Bob: Yep, I have one of those. And a Galaxy S5.

The Z3 compact has pretty impressive battery life, but the screen is a bit underwhelming.

Journeyman Geek

I have a gen 1 moto G. Decent phone, and rightsized for my paws ;p

More space would be nice tho (I know I know ;p)

All day batteries tho I have a bigass battery pack 'in case'

Bob

> This will blow your mind!
Pros: plugs into the wall and into your psu
Cons: only comes in black
Other Thoughts: does exactly what it says on the tin. Must have

For a PC power cable => umart.com.au/newindex28.phtml?id=10&bid=7&sid=39365

:P

Journeyman Geek

lol

Wait

They sell power cables. IN TINS?

Bob

@JourneymanGeek I'm sure someone does!

Journeyman Geek

THIS CHANGES ~~EVERYTHING~~ NOTHING

@Bob: well, the house of mouse sells loose cables stored in plastic cookie jars...

Bob

11:06 AM

16 GB flash drive. Has: memtest86+, Acronis, UBCD, offline NT password editor, KNOPPIX and Kali Linux

did I miss anything?

what's a good bootable malware cleaner?

I haven't needed one in years, but it's good to be prepared :P

Any suggestions?

Journeyman Geek

Neither have I ;p

qasdfdsaq

WinPE, Hirens, and a Windows installers?

I used to use Malwarebytes in my previous work fixing laptops.

Been a while, but the few times I've needed it recently it's seemed to have picked up everything I wanted it to, so it still seems a safe bet

Psycogeek

11:21 AM

yea malwarebytes is pretty amasing seeing you can manually use it for free, and in such control the time it is used (because for free it is only manuel)

I dont find much , but being a "malware" and not "virus" program it isnt pickey about the more minor stuff "thats not a virus" yea well close enough :-)

Journeyman Geek

._.

superuser.com/questions/990221/… I cleared out that tag something like an hour ago.

Psycogeek

^combine :-)

Hennes

11:40 AM

Plenty of those on the roads this week (local harvest time)

@Bob Add qasdfdsaq's suggestions and mail the the image (since I am lazy)

Should be trivial to make though, but I have not done anytghing liek it since 2010

So maybe tools have changed

I should edit my 16GB pen drive (atm it boots windows XP via a eSATA port). Might be nice if I add a few installers to it, though I was not yet ready to dump XP and some ancient lagcy (does not run on vista or more modern) programs

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: Typically I use the MS one.

Clear question with examples

12:00 PM

"If this is resolved then accept the answer" I leave that comment

Journeyman Geek

@Clearquestionwithexamples: assuming it solved the OP's problem and/or the OP is even around.

Clear question with examples

And then I check back and delete the comment

Bob

@qasdfdsaq MalwareBytes - I'd like to, but they require an OS.

@qasdfdsaq Hirens - offers little to no value, considering what I already have.

Windows installers - YUMI only supports on of 7, 8 or 10 at a time. I'll add 10 once I finally upgrade.

WinPE... hm. Dunno. Maybe.

I remember trying it in the past but WAIK was pretty confusing.

I might look at a Windows To Go installation actually

@Hennes Ha. Would probably take a few days to upload :P

Excluding tool download and copy time, takes only 10 mins to create with YUMI.

@JourneymanGeek Yea, but I'm specifically looking for an offline scanner.

Guess it's not too important.

Hennes

I should backup that XP install.... It is ancient

And last used in..... .hmm, can't remember

2010 I suspect

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: there's a bootable version of that ;p

Bob

12:14 PM

@JourneymanGeek O_O

I like it for being an unobtrusive lightweight background thing. Not sure how effective it'll be as a cleaner, but I might try that.

Hennes

Win 7 was just out and I made a backup of the old install on the pen drive (simply ghost the HDD to file, then from file to pen drive). And voila, a backup install while I played with the shiny new win7 OS

Journeyman Geek

windows.microsoft.com/en-SG/windows/…

qasdfdsaq

@Bob: You mean something you can run straight from the boot menu? I don't know of any I'm afraid. HBCD (and possibly UBCD?) should have a WinPE image on there you can run Malwarebytes from, that's how I do it

Journeyman Geek

ugh.

I used to have one

but I don't remember

Likely avira.com/en/download/product/avira-rescue-system

Bob

@qasdfdsaq Oh, speaking of terrible music... => youtube.com/watch?v=vjW8wmF5VWc

Journeyman Geek

12:15 PM

I've only really used avira, avast and panda so...

qasdfdsaq

I never used WAIK for this but I did once make a useful hack that gave me all editions of Vista and 7 on a single 8GB USB drive, and I could pick which to install at runtime

Bob

@qasdfdsaq Yea, I was afraid of that. Hm.

qasdfdsaq

Can't remember how I did it, I'm a bit rusty on end-user devices these days :(

Bob

@qasdfdsaq That's actually fairly easy -- iirc it's a single plain text file edit. For all editions of one OS anyway.

Not sure about two OSes.

Might solve my YUMI multi-installer problem actually...

qasdfdsaq

Sorta. You have to rebuild the WIM file yourself to get all editions - including Home Basic, and x86 + x64 editions on the same disk - the stock installers do not have the actual source files for all of them.

Journeyman Geek

12:17 PM

@Bob: I've heard that on the radio. Made me want to leave a present on the radio station floor.

qasdfdsaq

I believe I may have been using partitioning for the multi OS - partition 1 for the Vista installer, partition 2 for the Win7 installer.

Bob

@qasdfdsaq Ah. That's not planned for the moment.

qasdfdsaq

@Bob Oh my...

tereško

for fuck sake

why did Firefox make such a fucking stupid decision?

Journeyman Geek

You need to be more specific

qasdfdsaq

12:20 PM

But my god that USB stick was handy. I'm still using it today. Reinstall any Vista or 7 machine with any edition of Windows with just one stick (Oh per my last comment, you also don't get Enterprise on the standard retail disks, which I had to integrate myself as well)

Journeyman Geek

lol

@qasdfdsaq: I've almost completely standardised on windows 10 pro

tereško

@JourneymanGeek the have blocked kat.cr (kickass trorrents) site and only way to access it is to disable "reported attack sites" protection

Journeyman Geek

@tereško: er

that's the fake one

google links that first

tereško

nope

Journeyman Geek

Oh

@tereško: scratch that

google handles that list tho

tereško

12:21 PM

and since there is no option to add exceptions, people will start disabling that option

stupid people

the ones that their list was made to protect

qasdfdsaq

@JourneymanGeek Ever since I stopped doing laptop support clinics I haven't been very up to date with these things. I only bought Windows 8.1 in March. Tried installing Win10 through the Microsoft update nag but it just broke the whole system and reverted.

When DX12 games come out, I may consider doing a clean install.

Journeyman Geek

@qasdfdsaq: heh. I updated my desktop

accidentally updated the laptop

The rest... I got time on my hands

qasdfdsaq

Until then, I have no need for W10. I don't really have any need for W8.1 anymore either, I only bought that because I wanted the faster RDP.

Bob

@tereško ...do you not see the "Ignore this warning" on the bottom right?

Journeyman Geek

@tereško: Piracy is bad anyway... ;p

qasdfdsaq

12:23 PM

I have time on my hands, I just prefer to spend it playing space barbie in Star Trek Online >_>

tereško

@Bob that's not how it works on firefox

at least not on Aurora

Bob

@tereško ?

I just tried in FF. That's exactly what I got.

tereško

yeah, I am running a bit more up-the-stream version .. I get the changes ~2 weeks before the standard version

I am running 43.0a2 version now

Journeyman Geek

tereško

yes, that was showing up few weeks ago

Bob

12:25 PM

@tereško ?

Journeyman Geek

@qasdfdsaq: Currently looking for work. I can apply all I want, but I got tons of time on my hands until the next one

@tereško: I hit ignore the warning and it seems to work for me

Bob

You realise Beta is 6 weeks ahead of release and Aurora is 12 weeks?

Clear question with examples

virustotal.com was the only malware heuristics I've used

qasdfdsaq

^^ what Bob said.

@JourneymanGeek: Ah, yeah, I spent a year out of work recently. A looooot of time on your hands.

DavidPostill

@tereško kat.cr is working here in Firefox 41

tereško

12:27 PM

then you have about 3 months till you start getting the "doesn't even start loading the page" security approach

Journeyman Geek

@qasdfdsaq: so... I've gotten almost every box I had with windows 7 upgraded

Bob

I'm updating my copy of Aurora right now, but I can say 43.0a1 doesn't show a warning at all.

DavidPostill

No warning

tereško

no page

Journeyman Geek

@tereško: maybe blocked in your country?

tereško

12:28 PM

nope

Journeyman Geek

Jesus turned the router into wine?

Wait... that's water.

tereško

it works on the standard version and I can ping the site

Journeyman Geek

ahh

Bob

hehe google.com/transparencyreport/safebrowsing/diagnostic/…

DavidPostill

@tereško I have "Block reported attack sites" enabled

Bob

12:29 PM

>
Current status:
Partially dangerous

Some pages on google.com contain deceptive content right now.

DavidPostill

@Bob LOL

Bob

@tereško Just tested. 43.0a2 does not block at all.

tereško

then let's hope that this is a bug

because if the behaviour that I see goes in the main branch, it will be a nightmare

Bob

If you think you've found a bug, report it.

And, yes, using prerelease software does tend to expose you to more bugs.

qasdfdsaq

Significant changes like that would normally go through discussion via the mailing lists first no?

Bob

12:33 PM

@tereško can you take a screenshot of that page?

Journeyman Geek

@tereško: This is why I typically have an obscure browser as a backup

Bob

Ok, just found one.

Norepro.

@tereško ^

tereško

@Bob not really, because when I click on "kat.cr" in the speed-dial, nothing happens no

Bob

I would suggest a misconfig or some addon on your end is causing the misbehaviour.

tereško

completely nothing

qasdfdsaq

12:34 PM

Clear your cache?

Bob

@tereško ...what made you assume that had anything to do with reported attack sites?

qasdfdsaq

After all it is clearly working for everyone else.

Bob

Also, we're testing by direct entry in address bar.

DavidPostill

World's first personal computer goes up for auction: £485 Kenbak-1 is six years older than Apple's 1 and could fetch £300,000

dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3284367/…

Bob

If it's the 'speed dial' functionality that's not working => report it as a bug.

Certainly sounds like a bug.

Journeyman Geek

12:35 PM

>_>

People use speed dial?

tereško

@Bob because disabling it stop the behaviour

qasdfdsaq

@DavidPostill But can it play Crysis?

Bob

@tereško Ok, then report the bug.

allquixotic

hi

Bob

It's helpful to know how you came to the conclusions you arrived at.

qasdfdsaq

12:36 PM

Clear your cache? Maybe it's cached the "This is a reported attack site" status somewhere

Journeyman Geek

@qasdfdsaq: Can it play doom?

tereško

@JourneymanGeek I migrated from Opera when 15.0 was released

qasdfdsaq

@JourneymanGeek Can it play snake?

@allquixotic Hi

Journeyman Geek

@qasdfdsaq: I guess some keyboards can....

Bob

@qasdfdsaq Can it play CCA?

DavidPostill

12:36 PM

Yesterday auctioneers at Christie announced it was offering an Apple 1 computer for auction later this month.

The auction has a starting bid of $371,000 (£240,000) but it is expected to sell for as much as $800,000 (£517,500). It also comes with the first manual issued by Apple.

tereško

@qasdfdsaq cleared. No difference.

DavidPostill

Back later, I need to go on an errand ...

Bob

2 mins ago, by Bob

If it's the 'speed dial' functionality that's not working => report it as a bug.

Here, I'll even give you a link: bugzilla.mozilla.org

tereško

@Bob the same behaviour happens when I manually write the address in URL bar

Bob

@tereško Then, yea, something on your end. Try a clean profile.

Norepro here or by @DavidPostill.

tereško

12:39 PM

sigh that's one thing I have been trying really really hard to avoid

Bob

@tereško Try itisatrap.org/firefox/its-an-attack.html

courtesy of glob over at #firefox :P

tereško

@Bob I get a block warning, full page one

Bob

@tereško yea, that's normal

tereško

so .. it'w really likely a messed up profile then

qasdfdsaq

Access to the Web page you have attempted to view has been blocked by the University's Web Content Filter Service. The URL (noted above) is currently included on a blacklist of Web sites thought to contain unsuitable material.

After all that to get past my browser telling me it's unsafe!

Journeyman Geek

12:57 PM

lol

allquixotic

1:10 PM

Update: turns out the HGST disks I have aren't true 4kn :( The firmware is locked in 512e mode, so I can't actually "switch" the disk layout even if I wanted to :/

so I'm rebuilding the array again and the Seagate is back in the cabinet

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic: DOID time?

Bob

@allquixotic Can't you force the controller to ignore what the disk reports?

Hennes

The SATA controller or the on-disk controller?

The FIRST: possibly

allquixotic

1:25 PM

@JourneymanGeek DOID?

Bob

@allquixotic Drive Of Impending Doom :P

allquixotic

@Bob no; the disk's firmware is actually reporting 512 byte sectors to the disk controller, and there's no way to tell it "don't do that"

Bob

Oct 17 '13 at 15:02, by allquixotic

@JourneymanGeek DOID? sounds like a guy with a stuffy nose trying to say DROID

allquixotic

lol

Bob

@allquixotic I meant tell the RAID controller to always assume 4k.

Journeyman Geek

1:26 PM

;p

Bob

Maybe setting stripe size to 4k will do it? shrug

What was your controller again?

Can you contact the manufacturer to ask if it's possible?

allquixotic

the stripe size is 256k, not 4k

@Bob not possible -- the RAID controller isn't in control of the sector size. that's not how SATA works. The logical sectors of the disk reported to the first layer of interface outside the disk itself are sized at 512 bytes, and there's NO way to change that short of flashing the firmware, but no 4kn firmware exists.

Bob

@allquixotic shrug I was thinking it'd help to avoid sub-sector access.

allquixotic

Apparently only Ultrastar, not Deskstar, disks support 4kn. Their larger consumer disks report 512-byte logical sectors to the disk controller, but under the hood, at the physical disk layer, there are 4k byte sectors that the disk firmware has to write for each 512-byte write command

Bob

i.e. try to group all operations by 4k boundaries.

allquixotic

1:29 PM

@Bob the partitions are already aligned on 4k boundaries, IIRC

Bob

@allquixotic Not just the partitions but all operations including anything the RAID controller does

I dunno.

allquixotic

@Bob the RAID controller skips the first megabyte of logical disk sectors.

1 MiB is divisible by 4k and 512, so it's good

Bob

@allquixotic Funny that... I have two "Hitachi" drives here reporting 4k

They're rebadged as Toshiba though.

allquixotic

@Bob what model?

Bob

Wait, no, looks like it's 512e.

Ah, now I remember. The new (at the time) Toshiba/Hitachi drives report 512 logical and 4k physical. The Seagate drives they replaced reported 512 logical and physical despite being 4k physical.

Also, the Toshiba drives are much better behaved with Intel RAID, despite having similar performance with tests outside of RAID.

allquixotic

1:33 PM

3

A: Upgrading RAID controller to 4kn - do I have to reinitialize the array to use 4kn?

Your disks are either 512e (512 sectors on SAS/SATA interface) or 4k native (4k sectors on SAS/SATA interface), and unfortunately there is no way to change that via software or jumpers etc. You select the transfer mode when you buy the disks. Buy 4k native disk if you have adapter that supports 4...

Bob

Some speed testing here => superuser.com/questions/510178/… (and in comments)

allquixotic

I had downvoted that answer and commented that it was wrong, but he never responded... turns out he was right all along

fortunately he edited it after I downvoted it, so I upvoted it instead

Bob

I think I posted the test results in chat at that time.

allquixotic

and deleted my comments

I was just hoping to address the sluggish random performance of my RAID array :/

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic: :/

also oops

allquixotic

1:33 PM

I guess actual workloads won't often be totally random though

Bob

allquixotic

even with significant fragmentation, large transfers won't ever be truly random

and if it's stuff I read often, it'll get maxCached on the SSDs

@Bob yep, unless the logical sector size says 4096 bytes, it's 512e

if logical and physical say 512, then it's one of the older drives that isn't even 512e, it's "512n"

mine say physical 4096, logical 512 also.

Bob

allquixotic

@Bob old thingy

Bob

@allquixotic IIRC 512n means it uses real 512b sectors?

allquixotic

1:36 PM

@Bob yup

as in, every disk produced for a computer since 1980 until recently

Bob

@allquixotic nup

these drives are specced as 4k sectors

they just falsely report 512b physical

allquixotic

the one that says physical size 512 bytes is either lying, or it's 512n

Bob

@allquixotic It's lying, AFAIK

allquixotic

not that the disk controller can do anything with that information aside from possibly optimize or properly align the sectors

the disk controller doesn't have access to the physical sectors

Bob

First one was with the lying drives.

Second one with the 512e drives.

Note that the lying drives achieve approximately the same performance outside of RAID as the 512e ones do.

@allquixotic My point is I'm pretty damn sure that my RAID/SATA controller does use this information.

I heavily suspect that's why I'm seeing so much better performance with the 512e drives.

Because it is aware of the 4k physical sectors and can therefore group requests to minimise seeking/multiple accesses.

allquixotic

1:44 PM

right, it can use the information to help optimize its read and write patterns, but as far as I know, the disk's firmware will still have to make eight separate writes of 512 bytes to fulfill a write request for 4k, even if those 4k happen to be 100% contiguous.

@Bob are horrible (a few tens of MB/s) speeds normal for the random reads and writes? because mine are pretty bad

Bob

@allquixotic Yea, It'd be worse than proper 4k, but it's better than assuming 512b.

@allquixotic Yup. With HDDs don't expect too much from 4k random.

That's a single fake-512 drive outside RAID.

Those were 5900RPM drives, so random would probably suffer a bit.

allquixotic

disks do have megabytes of DRAM onboard, so presumably it will realize it has eight 512b writes queued up in DRAM that happens to map exactly to a single 4k sector, and go "ah! :D" and write that out sequentially without making the platter spin around eight times

Bob

@allquixotic NCQ

allquixotic

and then I have 256k stripes...

so the RAID controller queues stuff up in DRAM, then in flash, in 256k increments

flipping a single bit is pretty damn wasteful in terms of the magnitude of writes that have to occur on the platters, but oh well

Bob

Hm. I don't have any tests for a single 512e drive outside RAID.

Odd. I have just about everything else :P

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allquixotic

1:50 PM

that's what I got on my array last night

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: you keep those? ;p

Bob

@JourneymanGeek I kept those ones specifically while moving the array onto new disks.

Journeyman Geek

ahh ok

Bob

@allquixotic Wait they're on 5.0.2 now?!

allquixotic

I set it to 4 GB as a nice compromise between being so tiny as to basically fit in DRAM (1024 MB on the RAID controller, 64 MB on the HDDs, plus maxCache) and so big as to expose the raw performance of the underlying HDDs

Bob

1:52 PM

I'm still on the 2012 3.0.2 :P

allquixotic

that 555 MB/s sequential is maxCache, I believe

@Bob heh, I downloaded it fresh

Bob

Ah crap gotta do tax return within the next week too

:S

*procrastinates more*

allquixotic

7493 IOPS is 1.7 orders of magnitude higher than a standard HDD

I'd say that's good enough for gaming

especially considering my most frequently launched games will either be in system RAM page cache or in maxCache on the 850 Pros and the Sandisk, or in the Readyboost I put on the remaining capacity

oh, another cool thing about maxCache... since it's write-back, if I have a game frequently banging on the same few sectors (frequently changing small areas of data with high locality), those sectors will just sit in maxCache and never even get synced to the HDDs until loooong after the intensive activity is over

there are many many workloads where this setup will hide the throughput/IOPS of the HDDs.

probably still a good idea to upgrade my PerfectDisk license and defrag my main volume

that'll reduce write amplification a lot

Bob

oh crap primocache is on 2.1.0

I'm still on 1.0.1 O_O

That's a looooong changelog

Aug 7 at 20:25, by Bob

PrimoCache 2.0.0 is out

I have a terrible memory.

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