Root Access

let's see... qemu-kvm is taking up 3-5%, two different TS3 servers taking up 2% each, ksmd eating 0.7%, gateone 0.7%, various RCU processes <1%, ZFS <1%, load average 1.09

something's nomming away on a CPU thread (I have 12-way SMP, 6 cores with HT)

qasdfdsaq

5:03 PM

18:00:33 up 124 days, 1:31, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.05
^^ That's my ZFS server

Bob

All I see is a bunch of qemu threads :P

qasdfdsaq

top is showing 1% CPU usage from l2arc_feed

Bob

root@debian:~# free -m
             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:         64536      58435       6100         65          6        396
-/+ buffers/cache:      58032       6503
Swap:            0          0          0

ow.

qasdfdsaq

(which if you don't know is a ZFS thread that constantly scans your cache in the background)

allquixotic

l2arc_feed rarely slows up for me; qemu is much busier (Windows...)

# free -m
             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:        128837      48296      80540         24          2       4587
-/+ buffers/cache:      43707      85130
Swap:            0          0          0

qasdfdsaq

5:04 PM

I think my qemu Windows VM is off right now, but I do ahve aggressively tuned l2arc settings

Bob

My memory usage is entirely too high.

allquixotic

@Bob you haven't trimmed back your arc then

qasdfdsaq

you mean his l1arc?

allquixotic

I set mine to 32 gigs

@qasdfdsaq edited :P

qasdfdsaq

22/10/2015 18:05:17 [xxxxx@xxxx.maxwell.local:~] $ free -m
total used free shared buffers cached
Mem: 1033944 6533 1027411 0 58 207
-/+ buffers/cache: 6266 1027678
Swap: 16383 0 16383

Recycle Bin

5:05 PM

are filenames metadata or something else?

qasdfdsaq

dammit how do I get it to show up nicely formatted

allquixotic

@qasdfdsaq is that a terabyte of RAM?

qasdfdsaq

Yes.

allquixotic

@qasdfdsaq paste, then Ctrl+A, then fixed font

Bob

@allquixotic I pretty much didn't touch this after setting it up.

allquixotic

5:06 PM

@qasdfdsaq I wish I made half as much money as you >.<

qasdfdsaq

22/10/2015 18:05:17 [xxxxx@xxxx.maxwell.local:~] $ free -m
             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:       1033944       6533    1027411          0         58        207
-/+ buffers/cache:       6266    1027678
Swap:        16383          0      16383

Bob

Was under the impression that it defaults to 25% of RAM.

qasdfdsaq

Oh it's not my machine

allquixotic

@Bob 50% :P

@qasdfdsaq no? I thought you bought this o.o

qasdfdsaq

I have some exotic gear at home but no way am I paying £3000 x4 for 4 CPUs

Bob

5:06 PM

@allquixotic shrug still doesn't account for actual usage.

qasdfdsaq

Nah, it's the 1TB HPCC node at work

allquixotic

ahhhh okay

qasdfdsaq

22/10/2015 18:04:37 [qasdfdsaq@qasdf-servage.lan:~] $ free -m
             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:         32113      27292       4820         14        451       3962
-/+ buffers/cache:      22878       9234
Swap:            0          0          0

^^ That's my home server

allquixotic

@Bob well with your high unexplained RAM usage and my high unexplained CPU usage, we could offload all the poorly configured, buggy software between the two of us to a SP-32 and call it a day :P

qasdfdsaq

32GB is unfortunately the limit on Xeon E3 platforms

Bob

5:07 PM

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That leaves some 20 GB used RAM from somewhere else

allquixotic

o.o

Bob

Oh wow one qemu process is eating 6%

allquixotic

I'm only using about 16 GiB of RAM outside of my L1ARC

Bob

Make that two.

allquixotic

and 8 of that is Windows

That Brazilian Guy

5:09 PM

So... I pulled an all-nighter at work for the first time in my life yesterday. It was both amazing and terrible.

Arrived yesterday 9am, left today 7:30am

allquixotic

@ThatBrazilianGuy I did that once. My boss came in early and immediately saw how red my eyes were and how tired I looked and sent me home

DragonLord

Servers, servers, and more servers.

qasdfdsaq

Oddly my recently upgraded desktop now has as much RAM as my server

Recycle Bin

if I create a text document, the document name is stored separate from the documents contents right

allquixotic

I was so tired that I couldn't ride my bicycle home because my muscles were completely depleted of glycogen or whatever from exhaustion

I had to walk it home

That Brazilian Guy

5:10 PM

@allquixotic There were around 8 people there, one of them was my boss's boss's boss. He stayed until 4:30am, after ordering pizza and soft drinks for everyone :)

Recycle Bin

as well as the icon and details

qasdfdsaq

@RecycleBin: Basically, yes.

HOWEVER, on certain filesystems, with very small files, your text might actaully get stored as part of the metadata, but that's the exception to the rule

DragonLord

I'm a night owl and I'm usually up until about 2 am, sometimes later.

qasdfdsaq

I tend to avoid pulling all-nighters unless required to prevent something from literally exploding or catching fire, I'm too old for that shit

Recycle Bin

Ha I go to bed like 6 AM at the minute

qasdfdsaq

5:12 PM

In your own timezone?

Recycle Bin

its a phaze but its usually pretty late either way

yes

qasdfdsaq

I've done it too

At one point in my younger years I ended up going to sleep at 2pm

DragonLord

rotfl

qasdfdsaq

At that point it became f*** it, stay up a few more hours and gain an extra day.

Not to mention all the all-nighters I pulled doing my degree..

Bob

root@debian:~# virsh dommemstat dolos
actual 8388608
swap_in 9256041877426688
rss 8411788

O_O

DragonLord

5:13 PM

At rare times, I'd be up until 6 am, then sleep well past noon.

Not that this happens often. I'm usually in bed by 3 am.

Bob

that swap_in can't possibly be right

qasdfdsaq

Anytime I'm ever up till 6am I sleep well past noon

Bob

unless I misunderstood what swap_in is

That Brazilian Guy

@allquixotic The poor trainee kid who did most of the work (basically, he's the only one who had any prior experience with drupal), he wrote 90% of the frontend code (drupal theme).

He had arrived yesterday morning looking tired; he said he had stayed up all night on Red Bull and slept only 2hrs. Then he was with us for nearly 24hs.

Bob

That's a good 9 exabytes!

:S

That Brazilian Guy

5:14 PM

In the end, there was 4 people sleeping on couchs and even a table.

The cleaning lady arrived early and couldn't believe ;P

qasdfdsaq

I'm tempted to try and tap into this gigabit fibre contractors are laying past my front window

I've had to tolerate their squeaky bulldozers for the past week after all

That Brazilian Guy

I got so pityful of the poor kid, I asked "hey, do you like sushi?" "I love it!" "Well, so we're taking you to the best sushi in the city"

qasdfdsaq

That should entitle me to a share of the ducting right?

Bob

@qasdfdsaq Now you're making me sad :P

qasdfdsaq

@ThatBrazilianGuy: How far does this sushi bestness extend?

@Bob: Bleh, it's being put in for the long-overdue LTE mast upgrade around the corner.

Bob

5:16 PM

(5 years ago, gov promised FTTP. then gov change and they wanted to do FTTN + VDSL2. now they say they're going to reuse the HFC in my area instead. in 2018. shared carriers can do die.)

qasdfdsaq

Eh. Our property was initially stuck with 10Mbps ADSL2

Government gave extra funding to have FTTP put in, operator took the money and said screw it, we'll reroute them to FTTC instead

Bob

I'm currently on ADSL2+. Not even Annex M.

So... ~13Mbps down, ~1Mbps up. On a good day.

That Brazilian Guy

@qasdfdsaq It's a sushi restaurant called "Master Kame" and all the dishes have Dragon Ball names. Seriously.

qasdfdsaq

At least we have FTTC now, which is an improvement over the 10Mbps ADSL we had last year

Bob

It's decent-ish for down. The up is a killer.

qasdfdsaq

5:18 PM

@ThatBrazilianGuy Nice

Couple years ago though in another life/city my employer was running a 10Gbps pipe right past my street

Bob

@qasdfdsaq How is FTTN for you?

And what's the last mile?

qasdfdsaq

Fine. In the UK it's limited to 80Mbps down, 20Mbps up, and that's what we get.

Bob

Ah.

qasdfdsaq

Last mile is copper VDSL2, profile 17a

But my last mile is actually 50m

Bob

I think the plan was for the initial max offering to be 100/40 here, with some providers now offering 100/100.

qasdfdsaq

5:19 PM

So line capability stretches to 120Mbps+

Bob

But my chances of seeing that on HFC are probably slim to nil.

qasdfdsaq

I dunno, over here HFC offers 200Mbps

Upgrade to 300Mbps due shortly

Bob

@qasdfdsaq Apparently some of the VDSL locations here were up to 600m.

@qasdfdsaq Problem is it's a shared carrier.

Everyone on the same node will share whatever bandwidth is there.

qasdfdsaq

What's that mean exactly?

Well yeah, that's how all HFC works

UK is running 800Mbps carriers

Bob

@qasdfdsaq Yes, and it's a problem during peak times.

<1Mbps has been reported during peak times.

qasdfdsaq

5:21 PM

Not as big as you may think - it all depends on node size. With node sizes of 50-100 premesis some US operators are offering nearly 1000Mbps on HFC

Well, that just sounds like bad capacity managment.

The technology is just a tool, how they operate it... hmm

I know commercial operators that offer anything from 200Mbps to 1000Mbps over HFC. Some areas get 140Mbps+ at peak times on the 200Mbps service, some areas get <10Mbps. It's all capacity management... the cable itself can carry ~5Gbps

Bob

@qasdfdsaq They offer up to 1000Mbps.

A very big difference.

And it also depends a lot on what your neighbours do, as long as there is contention.

qasdfdsaq

We're a picky bunch in the UK. People tend to kick up a big fuss if they get less than their headline speeds

Bob

It's highly unlikely that they'll be offering a zero-contention service.

qasdfdsaq

Which means the ISPs usually have to provide low contention ratios

Certain ISPs commit to "zero visible contention"

With VDSL2 here we're guaranteed a minimum speed of ~60Mbps

Bob

We've become... ah... conditioned to less-than-advertised speeds. Long history.

I don't think I've ever seen a minimum speed guarantee.

Also of note: current HFC providers (Telstra, Optus) don't even advertise speeds at all.

qasdfdsaq

5:24 PM

Yeah, what companies provide is generally tuned to what they can get away with in that particular consumer market.

"How shit can we make this service before consumers/regulators start kicking our butts?"

Bob

> Cable Speed Packs: Available to Cable serviceable customers only. Upgrades to Optus' fastest DOCSIS 3.0 internet service which increases download speeds for Australian-hosted content. Actual download speed can be affected by factors such as your equipment and LAN performance, settings, hardware, software, internet activity, location of content accessed and congestion. WiFi connection may not be as fast as wired device. Only Optus-supplied DOCSIS 3.0-compliant EMTAs will be supported. Computer must meet minimum system requirements and may need network settings optimised.

> Speed: Many factors affect speed such as internet traffic, your line condition, your hardware and software, the data source or destination and your location.

No numbers.

qasdfdsaq

We have a highly competitive market here. In less competitive market areas, it can be a lot worse

Bob

God forbid they tell you what you're actually paying for.

qasdfdsaq

They'll bleed you dry for 1Mbps service if they know your only alternative is 56k

But if there's multiple 200Mbps+ competitors in the area they'll basically drown you in fibre

One company has been recently marketing the "magic in our fibre optic cables"

Bob

Oh here's one from Telstra.

> Broadband speeds
•
BigPond Fast Cable can provide download speeds up to a
maximum of 30Mbps when downloading from capable sites
or across multiple sites but average speeds will be lower.
•
If you have taken up a Super Fast Speed Boost, it can provide
download speeds up to a maximum of 100Mbps into the home for
sharing across multiple users in a household. Existing customers
may need to purchase a compatible Home Network Gateway to
access these speeds.

Note the suspicious lack of upstream speeds.

That's because they provide 1Mbps up.

Or 3Mbps up on the extra option.

@qasdfdsaq Too bad they've apparently managed to convince the gov to abandon FTTP.

qasdfdsaq

5:33 PM

Oh HFC has terrible upload speeds here too

Which is why they both throttle and hide upstream speeds while bleating about their "next-gen magic fibre" 200Mbps download speeds.

Bob

Ha.

qasdfdsaq

My mobile phone has double the upload speed of the fastest HFC...

Bob

NBN FTTP was supposed to be 100/40 minimum.

qasdfdsaq

NBN?

Bob

And that is why I'm pretty sure the new HFC plans are a massive cop-out.

National Broadband Network

The National Broadband Network (NBN) is a national wholesale-only, open-access data network and is under development in Australia. It is based on the premise that fixed line and wireless broadband connections are sold to retail service providers (RSPs), who then sell Internet access and other services to consumers. The NBN was subject to political and industry debate for a number of years, before construction actually commenced. The 2013 federal election and subsequent change of government from the Labor Party to the Liberal/National Coalition prompted a strategic review to be commissioned ...

qasdfdsaq

5:34 PM

The whole existence of HFC is a cop-out

It's basically a "How to suck more profits out of existing cable TV infrastructure without having to build any new last-mile connectivity"

There's absolutely no point in it for new builds

Bob

@qasdfdsaq Did you know they bought some $30m of copper to add to the new network?

The new network that was supposed to be FTTP?

The new network that was changed to FTTN to reuse copper and save costs?

Yea, that new network?

qasdfdsaq

lol

Bob

smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/…

Oh, was $14m.

DavidPostill

I wish I was still in NL imgur.com/okw62CM

Bob

> purchased 1800 kilometres of copper cable — enough to link the Sunshine Coast to Melbourne — at a cost of $14 million

Yea, sure. Instead of FTTP, let's add more copper.

Because that's not going to be an issue 10-20 years down the track. Nosiree.

qasdfdsaq

5:37 PM

The Coaxial copper in HFC isn't actually that bad

It's potentially capable of over 5Gbps

Bob

@qasdfdsaq This particular purchase is for VDSL2, I believe.

DavidPostill

I once got 165.28 Mb/s down :/

Bob

@qasdfdsaq Assuming you serve a single home.

qasdfdsaq

Just sayin', don't diss copper itself

No reason you couldn't use point-to-point coax in place of twisted pair telephone wires

Bob

Just a wild guess, but judging by what I've seen of the old telephone cabinets I'd guess a good 200-400 per node. Unless they split on the pole.

@qasdfdsaq There's not much point adding it though, when adding FTTP wouldn't cost much more.

qasdfdsaq

5:39 PM

^^ that's why I said there's nigh on no point to new HFC builds

Bob

Even node-splitting of existing HFC is quite difficult.

qasdfdsaq

G.Fast DSLAMs on the poles are what are current nationanl operator are starting upgrades on

Like I say, competitive market.

I think the target speeds are 500Mbps by 2025, but 300Mbps has been achieved in "in the field" tests

Bob

Ha.

We'll be lucky to get 100Mbps by then.

qasdfdsaq

Your country is a lot more sparsely populated though

Bob

True.

But even in the more densly populated areas that isn't happening.

@qasdfdsaq In terms of overall people/area, we're very sparse. But if you look at actual population maps most people are in fairly small spots along the coast.

Our cities still tend to be a bit sprawly, but dense enough that it's not too much off a good portion of the US.

qasdfdsaq

5:46 PM

Yeah, it's a bit odd. Density isn't everything, our big cities have the lowest penetration of FTTP.

Ben Richards

Any backup in this question, guys?

qasdfdsaq

There's more FTTP in the rural countryside than in cities...

Ben Richards

0

A: Is there a way for autocompleting commands' flags when using OSX terminal?

Assuming that there's not much different between bash on OSX and Linux... You can use the bash complete command to configure autocomplete options in bash. You would have to put these in your .bashrc file in your home directory you can get to it by typing cd ~ or cd $HOME in the terminal. If ther...

This question:

1

Q: Is there a way for autocompleting commands' flags when using OSX terminal?

I wondered if there is a way/plugin/bashrc_function for autocompleting commands' flags when using OSX terminal. Example When writing grep --excl and pressing tab it would autocomplete to grep --exclude and then pressing tab one more time would autocomplete to grep --exclude-dir.

qasdfdsaq

I had no idea that's how it all worked

Ben Richards

That's how you can user-customize it

I use this at work on tcsh. Different syntax but same concept.

It's actually super convenient for what I do :)

qasdfdsaq

5:55 PM

It's like magic... Almost as if it knew what you wanted to type before you type it!

Ben Richards

6:06 PM

:P

Well, computers do run on magic!

JonasCz

Hi all ! Is there any speed or other advantage in running a 64 bit linux on a 64 bit processor (core2 duo), versus running a 32 bit os on the same processor ?

Ben Richards

I don't know for certain, but I do think that's possible? Maybe from a resource standpoint (i.e. less addressable memory). Dunno if it makes a difference in the OS though. I know that there was a performance hit (at least in Windows) when running 32-bit software in a 64-bit edition of Windows, because it emulated 32-bit mode.

But if the OS is 32-bit, not sure. The OS is booting the CPU up in 32-bit mode so it's operating in a different mode altogether than if it was in 64-bit mode.

qasdfdsaq

6:21 PM

172

Q: 32-bit vs. 64-bit systems

What are the differences between 32-bit and 64-bit systems? If you have used both of them, what kind of sharp differences have you experienced? Would it be a problem to use 32-bit programs on 64-bit systems in some cases?

64-bit operating-systems 32-bit computer-architecture cpu-architecture

Also phoronix.com/…

JonasCz

I'm asking because I'm installing a new linux distro, and I'm deciding between compatibility (swapping hard drives and such), and having a possible speed advantage.

qasdfdsaq

If in doubt, pick 64-bit

Ben Richards

6:56 PM

64-bit is stable enough and hardware support is there that going with 64-bit really is the default these days.

Ramhound

7:22 PM

There is no speed advantage over 32/64 bit lots of other differences just not a speed difference

Mokubai

7:44 PM

For scientific and number crunching 64-bit does have a measurable performance benefit iirc...

Ramhound

That isn't the operating system that is a 64-bit application; I read and limited the performance question as just the operating system

Recycle Bin

9:13 PM

.

Mokubai

Good news everyone!

Recycle Bin

how come C:/ has to be enclosed in double quotes

whats the good news, I could do with it right now

Mokubai

@RecycleBin My computer is only minorly boned now. 99% operational.

@RecycleBin Where do you have to use double quotes?

Recycle Bin

eg: copy . "c:\"

Mokubai

the 1% boned is the fact that my Windows bootloader now resides on a USB memory stick. If that stick gets lost or eaten by the cat then my computer is boned again.

Recycle Bin

9:16 PM

and cant we have C:/ too it would be way easier

Mokubai

Weird

Recycle Bin

Im sure / has worked hundreds of times before for me but it isn't now

it works in certain instances

"C:/" or " C:\" works

DavidPostill

@RecycleBin dir c:/ fails, however cd c:/ works

dir "c:/" works

Recycle Bin

dir C:/
Invalid Switch - "".

DavidPostill

Exactly

I've no idea why it works when it has "s

Recycle Bin

9:29 PM

its saying that the switch is after the / and is null

DavidPostill

And why cd behaves differently to dir

It thinks / is an option with no value. dir c: / gives the same error.

DavidPostill

9:57 PM

@RecycleBin Why is the DOS path character "\"? by Larry Osterman of Microsoft

"Here's a little known secret about MS-DOS. The DOS developers weren't particularly happy about this state of affairs - heck, they all used Xenix machines for email and stuff, so they were familiar with the *nix command semantics. So they coded the OS to accept either "/" or "\" character as the path character (this continues today, btw - try typing "notepad c:/boot.ini" on an XP machine (if you're an admin)). And they went one step further. They added an undocumented system call to change the switch character. And updated the utilities to respect this flag.

Recycle Bin

10:27 PM

help OMG

Michael Frank

@RecycleBin Just wipe the VM, it'll be okay.

Recycle Bin

ive tried startup repair in the recovery tools

ive tried bootrec

but the BCD is still messed up

ive formatted the drive but it still says the bcd on it is messed up

xCare

@RecycleBin what OS you using?

Recycle Bin

win lose 7

xCare

same here. is it a problem with an internal or external drive?

Recycle Bin

10:30 PM

internal SSD

maybe I should try a low level format

xCare

I'm having a problem with internal HD and external flashdrive

do you have a startup recovery disk?

Recycle Bin

all I get is press esc in my error though

xCare

you might be able to run a scan if you have a system recovery disk

Recycle Bin

I have the OS disk

xCare

awesome! put that in -> restart the PC -> boot from disk -> run the scan and fix tool

Recycle Bin

10:33 PM

what tool

xCare

that might work if the problem is not too advanced yet... er, what's the name of that auto-fix thing

let me see if I find it..

Recycle Bin

you mean this: hosted.ocl.net/projects/ingersollseniors/programs/csg/…

ive tried the top and bottom options here already

xCare

Startup Repair, yes. Did you have a recovery point specified from before the issue?

Recycle Bin

ill try deleting the partitions on the ssd

xCare

if you did, you could use recovery, but likely you did not

Recycle Bin

10:36 PM

no the ssd is empty

xCare

um, I wouldn't

those things are tricky... I kept messing around with my HD and step by step it's become worse instead of better

have you tried reinstalling the OS from scratch?

Recycle Bin

why not just delete the partitions from the bad disk

theres nothing on it and will just partition it later

xCare

First, ask yourself exactly what would that serve? Second ask yourself if you know how to recreate your partitions. And third, ask yourself if what might be the consequences of such a maneuver so you are at least a bit prepared

Recycle Bin

because it would remove the bcd all together for that drive

um making a partition is easy

xCare

if you are positive on all three and confident you know what you're doing, go ahead.

it's easy, but one never knows what snag lurks around th ecorner. Be cautious and when in doubt, wait and ask; best thing I've learned from my computer woes so far.

Recycle Bin

10:41 PM

ill use diskpart

xCare

oh and if you do get it running normal again, First thing I suggest you do is make an exact image copy of the drive. Save it in a safe place. When you get in trouble, all you'll need to do is write the image back to the drive, assuming it is still functional.

Recycle Bin

windows 7 will then skip that disk as its blank

xCare

ik what you mean, it won't install the image because it doesn't detect windows 7 on it

but... you might be able to use other tools to copy the image over

like HDD Raw Copy: hddguru.com/software/HDD-Raw-Copy-Tool

Recycle Bin

it says its write protected

delete partition override

xCare

ouch. that's bad.

crosses fingers

Recycle Bin

10:47 PM

win7 is on the hdd and nothing is on the ssd

but when win7 boots it gives a bcd error for the ssd

regardless if bios boot order

xCare

ah I see, you don't have an OS on it.

Recycle Bin

nope

xCare

hmm

what make is the SSD?

Recycle Bin

samsung

xCare

might this help: tomshardware.com/forum/286878-32-samsung-boot-error

Recycle Bin

10:51 PM

now I get the disk is not initialized

after removing write protection

ah it removed the partitions fine

ok good

brb

xCare

@JourneymanGeek wb

Journeyman Geek

Got a rejection email from one of the more recent applications. Interestingly its apparently cause they aren't set up to hire from here.

xCare

aww

Journeyman Geek

Oh. Never gotten one of those before.

xCare

just got to keep trying.

you know how to fix flashdrive partition problems?

Recycle Bin

10:57 PM

yep that fixed it

efi image is gone, bcd is gone, etc

xCare

yay! congrats :)

I'm getting this exact problem from that multiboot drive that got messed up thanks to my finagling trying to fix my bad HD:

35

Q: How do I fix my USB drive to get its original 8GB size back?

My USB drive used to be originally 8GB when I bought it. I'm trying to reformatted in Windows 7 by right clicking on the drive and selecting Format.... But the capacity only shows 250MB. Is there something I can do to get the original size back? Maybe it got partitioned in a weird way? The f...

usb-flash-drive formatting

there's a link to a program called bootice in there. @JourneymanGeek, do you have a sandbox?

Recycle Bin

brb

Journeyman Geek

@xCare VMS or disposable installs of windows.

xCare

when you get around to it, if you have a sandbox, I'd like you or someone with one to test something: Head to that question above -> click the link to bootice in the first answer -> on the page that opens, click the link at the bottom where it says you can download bootice. I've a suspicion the link does not download bootice

might download something else though, it's a russian site. someone needs to test that and if it does lead to nowhere good, maybe put a disclaimer on that answer that leads there.

Michael Frank

@xCare Eww... Link only answer as well. Gross.

xCare

11:10 PM

@MichaelFrank ikr

Journeyman Geek

Oh for that, I have Linux boxen.

xCare

link needs verification despite the OP selecting it as best. I've followed the link and don't think it leads to where it says it should, only the program's info is useful on that page.

Michael Frank

@xCare Find a good source and update the answer.

Recycle Bin

its still trying booting from the primary drive (0) which is the SSD

no way around that unless I swap the drives around

never buying a HP again

Journeyman Geek

@xCare: I boot into linux, run fdisk, and murderate all the partitions.

Windows dosen't like multi partition flash drives

links to bootice 2 levels down are dead

xCare

11:26 PM

found a clean download of bootice from softpedia, added the link and disclaimer to the answer.

Journeyman Geek

So... here's my problem

If the original link goes down the answer's pretty useless.

If someone used it and updated it with their own screenshots and observations that would be awesome

xCare

well, I'm going to use the program myself, however it's an old question... adding another answer at this time, it likely be lost among the long list of answers probably.

idk

Journeyman Geek

Oh, you can edit the old answer. Bit of work, but its a nice thing to do

I've done it, people have done it for me too

xCare

hm, I'll think about it. good point on being nice.

there's no rep point benefits for edits, is there? I got 2 points somehow, never got that from editing before.

oh it's from editing someone else's post, never done that b4

lol, ironically, the OP's name on that question is: this is a dead end

Journeyman Geek

11:51 PM

2 point for 'suggested' edits

so until you hit 2K

but typically if you do quality edits, people notice

xCare

i don't see how in that particular case, the question is quite old and already has alot of likes... do I get a portion of points from future likes of a post by editing?

Clear question with examples

@xcare "alot" is actually "a lot" if you didn't know

tereško

Hennes

thereisalot inenglish which is confuzzling

xCare

yes, lol

Hennes

11:56 PM

@JourneymanGeek Lol. I still got lots of bookmarks in order to properly make a 'why the F'ck is windows broken when it comes to multi partition flash drives?'

Journeyman Geek

@xCare nope

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Journeyman Geek

You just get the satisfaction of knowing someone isn't wrong on the internet

Hennes

xCare

@JourneymanGeek aw. lol, since when are they right? right?

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