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1:00 PM
@MattEllenД thanks
i'm on track to rep-cap for the day and i haven't answered a single question
that's what you get for multicollidering a stupid question about information porn
 
You're becoming like Jon Skeet!
 
@MattEllenД How to not enjoy it: instead of an empty coffee cup for a party hat, use your full coffee cup
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 good idea
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 an excellent idea, but all i have here is a tea mug.
but of course i'm allowed to enjoy anything i want to
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Q: Which is a better phrase (most prominent)?

Dilawar SinghConsider the following two sentences, The accusation that Indian society is incapable of changing itself came from various Western thinkers; most prominent of them was Karl Marx. The accusation that Indian society is incapable of changing itself came from various Western thinkers; most p...

 
1:23 PM
Morning. Have we covered complaining that the chat link is missing?
Congratulations, JSB!
 
@KitΘδς Odd. But there is a chat link at the bottom of the page...
 
Hey, we're all here, whom else do we need?
 
@KitΘδς Does English have a blog?
 
@FallenAngelEyes We were contemplating creating one, but then all kinds of shits hit various fans...
 
@RegDwightѬſ道 What do we need for a blog?
 
1:27 PM
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Q: Call for blog participation

nohatThe Powers That Be have bestowed upon us a new feature: Stack Exchange community blogs. There's also a Stack Exchange blog post about it. I think a blog for the English Language & Usage site is a great idea. We could use it to: Provide hints and tips to users on how to write better answer...

 
@RegDwightѬſ道 Ah, hm. Well the blog link replaces the chat link for the first 24 hours after it is posted, hence why I wondered if that was what you meant.
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Q: Eeeek! Where did the chat top navigation link go?

Octavian DamieanThe chat link in the top navigation bar is gone. Instead there is a shiny blog link. Where did the chat link go?

Ah, in EL&U's case it's apparently linking to the main SE blog.
 
Yes.
 
so why did they take away our chat link, to replace it with a blog link that doesn't even go to our blog?
 
software developers, eh?
Probably developing to spec!
 
For what it's worth, I think it'd be very interesting to read a blog by you guys. :)
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1:39 PM
@JSBᾶngs I dunno, but it's the same on GLU and Proggers, though not on Bicycles or Gaming.
 
I agree with @Fallen! You guys should totally go for a blargh.
 
@RegDwightѬſ道 That's because it only lasts 24 hours after the last blog update and ours only updates on Mon/Wed/Fri
So it's expired now.
 
@RegDwightѬſ道 I'd like to help out on a blog but can't commit to any schedule until I know more about what'd be needed of me. But I would be willing to take on some writing assignments.
 
well, bullocks to that. mebbe everyone got a blog link, but only the ones that actually blog have a blog to be bloglinked to. blog blog blog blog blog
 
@Manaಠдಠ I approve of your non ascii characters :D
 
1:40 PM
@JSBᾶngs Agh, you've killed the word for me!
 
@MattEllen My face doesn't approve, though.
 
@Manaಠдಠ of anything, ever
 
@Manaಠдಠ I'm sure everyone remembers what happened after the last Blargian invasion though.
 
@FallenAngelEyes Semantic satiation, eh?
 
@Manaಠдಠ i like it
 
1:42 PM
I like you, JSBongs.
 
@RegDwightѬſ道 ...There's... there's a phrase for that?
My life feels so much more enriched now
 
@KitΘδς If there's anyone left to remember anything about the last Blargian invasion, then it wasn't an actual Blargian invasion.
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A: Is there a word or phrase for the feeling you get after looking at a word for too long?

MarthaªEureka! Ok, so it's not a single word, but it's what I was trying to think of: Semantic Satiation Edit: Found a languagehat discussion on this topic.

 
@RegDwightѬſ道 I was on Pokitaru at the time. The details are hazy.
 
upvotes
 
@KitΘδς Jenna Haze is hazy. The details are meh at best.
 
1:45 PM
@RegDwightѬſ道 Jenna Haze is lazy. Always lying around.
Not always on her back though...
 
@KitΘδς You must be talking about a different Jenna Haze.
 
@RegDwightѬſ道 I'm talking about the Jenna Haze I have in my lockbox in my closet. Which Jenna Haze are you talking about?
 
May 9 at 13:41, by RegDwight
I could tell you, but I have to charge.
 
@RegDwightѬſ道 Wow, I stepped away from this chat tab to post a suggestion in the blog meta question, and suddenly this room is incomprehensible! So it's not just a clever name....
 
@RegDwightѬſ道 your game talk brings all the nerds into chat
 
1:52 PM
13 hours ago, by random
This room was placed in timeout for 2 minutes; the topic of this room is "aka The Incomprehensible Room" - conversation should be limited to that topic.
@MrShinyandNew安宇 It has been decreed.
 
By random, no less.
 
You can't buy that kind of awesomeness.
 
@KitΘδς I saw that decree, and I thought "pfft, it couldn't possibly stay incomprehensible!" I guess I'm too new to this chat thing. You guys are an inspiration.
an inspiration to incomprehensibility.
Incidentally, my coffee just screamed as I drank the last of it.
 
1:55 PM
Glossolalians exhort!
 
Nobody expects the Glossolalian escort.
 
Our chief weapon is obfuscation.
Obfuscation and consternation.
 
The incomprehensibility of the transcript is greater due to deleted items. I was reading the exchange between Cerberus and Jez, and it seemed very one sided.
 
Ein Stern, der Deinen Namen trägt!
 
@MattEllenД Yeah, what's up with a transcript with invisible redactions? yeesh
 
1:57 PM
@MattEllenД You are welcome to read the older exchange between Jez and myself on the same topic.
Nothing deleted there.
Jul 7 at 21:32, by RegDwight
@Jez I am attacking your sweeping generalization that "any Muslim is brainwashed".
 
@RegDwightѬſ道 I can't decide if I should thwack you or not. That is a particularly clever pun.
 
@RegDwightѬſ道 I'm sure I'll get to it when I carry on with the full backlog, rather than where I leave off
 
Yay! I got something to work in less than 3 hours!
 
@KitΘδς I got thwacked for cleverer puns in the past. Some people will just thwack anything that's not on the trees when the count reaches three.
 
what was it?
 
2:01 PM
@KitΘδς href="javascript:alert('I rule!');"
 
@MattEllenД Using a variable for a tooltip.
 
See, I was close.
 
*Hyrule
 
@RegDwightѬſ道 Pretty damn close.
 
@KitΘδς satisfying
 
2:02 PM
href="javascript:var verb='rule';alert('I '+verb+'!');"
 
@MattEllenД Very. Foolishly easy. But of course, figuring out the damn syntax is usually the trouble.
 
@KitΘδς Oooh I got that to work just last week!
 
@KitΘδς does not the snake language also use + for string concat?
 
But I shamelessly stole someone else's bit of code.
 
s/But/And/
 
2:04 PM
title='<%# PubConstants.medmsTip %>' if you must know.
@JSBᾶngs I can't remember. It's been just over a year since I used python last.
 
Zelda! standing in the rain
 
@KitΘδς ooo Kit! revealing your source!
 
@MattEllenД Exposing myself even.
 
@KitΘδς I'll get better with practice ;)
 
2:07 PM
 
Okay, so now we have a motto comic, and an anthem. All we need is a flag.
And then, of course, a language of our own.
 
Do you have a flag?
 
What I don't have is sound.
 
@RegDwightѬſ道 That we've already got.
@RegDwightѬſ道 sad face
Did you try un-muting it?
:P
 
@KitΘδς You mean
Aug 4 at 19:18, by RegDwight Ѭſ道
Ananas ananas Ananas ananas ananas ananas Ananas ananas.
?
 
2:11 PM
Amongst other things, yes.
 
Very ananassian.
 
But we have more words than Dutch.
 
Ananassian is a nice Iranian surname.
 
Shouldn't in be Ananassi?
Or Anansi?
 
I know enough Iranians whose names end in -assian.
 
2:12 PM
Ananasish
 
since a language is a dialect w/ army and navy, i suggest we first acquire the latter, then declare our own incomprehensible gibberish to be our national language
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I know only one person whose name ends in -assi, and he's married to Steffi Graf.
 
Good example of incomprehensibility, @JSB
 
woo incomprehensibility
 
well done for keeping on topic
 
2:14 PM
plus once we have an army and a navy, we can give each other fancy military titles
 
Fähnrich.
Who wants to be a Fähnrich?
 
I want to be Kitchen Staff Supervisor!
 
what's a Fahnrich?
 
I think it's an ensign?
 
Ensign () is a junior rank of commissioned officer in the armed forces of some countries, normally in the infantry or navy. As the junior officer in an infantry regiment was traditionally the carrier of the ensign flag, the rank itself acquired the name. "Ensign" is enseigne in French, Fähnrich in German, and chorąży in Polish, each of which derives from a term for a flag. The Spanish alférez and Portuguese alferes is a junior officer rank below lieutenant associated with carrying the flag, and so is often translated as "ensign". Unlike the rank in other languages, its etymology has n...
 
2:15 PM
Or cadet?
 
@KitΘδς i was going to nominate you for High Admiralessa, Queen of the Seas
 
blush I could just be the Undersecretary.
I was making an obscure joke with the Kitchen Staff Supervisor reference, though.
 
@KitΘδς How was that obscure?
 
verily the incomprehensibility doth increase
@RegDwightѬſ道 the humour was obscured from me
 
@RegDwightѬſ道 Well, do you know who I'm talking about?
 
2:17 PM
@MattEllenД It always is. Hear that? That's the sound of everyone laughing but yourself.
 
@KitΘδς i haven't a clue
 
@RegDwightѬſ道 :( sigh
 
I don't know what anyone is talking about. But there's nothing unusual about that.
 
Mar 21 at 13:47, by RegDwight
I know everything, and then some.
 
Lemme look. BRB.
 
2:18 PM
@Cerberus can be General Trikephalos, and @Reg can be the commander of our elite Owl Air Force
 
The Eulewaffe.
 
Till Eulenwaffel?
 
i like it
 
See, he has an owl in one hand, and a waffle in the other.
 
2:20 PM
Waffles are square.
 
You are square.
 
That's a frisbee.
Cerebus the Aardvark, or simply Cerebus (), is an independent comic book, written and illustrated by Canadian artist Dave Sim, with backgrounds by fellow Canadian Gerhard. Cerebus ran for 300 issues from December 1977 to 2004, and was over 6000 pages long, the longest-running original English-language comic book series ever by a single creative team. , it leads its closest challenger (Stan Sakai's Usagi Yojimbo, still ongoing) by over 100 issues. Sim refers to it as the "longest sustained narrative in human history." The name was originally an accidental misspelling of Cerberus. Cereb...
 
only the square ones
 
Kitchen Staff Supervisor.
Which was the title for the commander of the armed forces, as I recall.
And also the reason I always misspell @Cerberus's name.
 
What the...
I know I am popular; but people must learn2spell!
 
2:27 PM
@Cerberus Cerebus the aardvark ruined the spelling and pronunciation of that name for me too. And I didn't even read Cerebus!
 
At least they didn't call you Cerebus the Aardananas.
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 I must defeat this Aardvark! Let it show itself!
@RegDwightѬſ道 That sounds more like your epithet hollow laugh.
 
@Cerberus Prachtige Aardvarkje.
 
Aaahhhhh wrong in all respects!
 
Enough about aardvarks that are three-headed puppies in disguise. What's gonna be my title?
 
2:31 PM
@Cerberus Hehe, gotcha!
 
Queen of Thwack?
 
Red Martha'a, Punsbane.
 
@RegDwightѬſ道 I know you did it on purpose... but it doesn't hurt any less!
 
@Cerberus It is supposed to hurt more.
 
@Cerberus That's Mistress of Thwack to you, young man, but I meant my other title, for this new... what is it for, again?
 
2:32 PM
@Marthaª i'm thinking of that
 
@Marthaª Nation of Incomprehension?
 
@Marthaª Misztresz of Thwáck?
 
Mistress of Corrections (Pun Division)
 
@RegDwightѬſ道 Sadist. I will start posting Russian Pepsi Cola advertisements to trigger your inner prescriptivist.
 
@JSBᾶngs Nice one. high five
 
2:33 PM
@Marthaª Oh, my apologies!
 
@Cerberus That will take ages, since he no exist.
Besides, it was Coca Cola, not Pepsi.
 
@RegDwightѬſ道 I'll find something, you just wait.
 
@JSBᾶngs Ah, ok. Does my office's purview extend to disciplining bosses who are annoying?
 
@Marthaª This new what?
 
@Cerberus I've been waiting all my life.
 
2:34 PM
@RegDwightѬſ道 For what?
Pepsi Cola adverts?
 
@Marthaª sure, if you want it to. Mistress of Corrections (Puns and Office Management Division)
 
@Marthaª Just tell them that Java is now called JavaScript, and JavaScript is now called Turbo Fortran.
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I love everybody. Right now.
 
@RegDwightѬſ道 Thwack!
 
@KitΘδς No news to anyone.
17 secs ago, by RegDwight Ѭſ道
No news to anyone.
 
2:35 PM
35 secs ago, by RegDwight Ѭſ道
@KitΘδς No news to anyone.
 
Hmm, doesn't seem to work. Where do I complain about a defective thwacker?
 
@KitΘδς woohoo! form an orderly queue
 
@MattEllenД That's not what I meant.
 
@Marthaª Don't you have minions who are supposed to take care of the thwackability being up to respectable levels?
 
@MattEllenД she prefers a disorganized melee. more fun that way
 
2:37 PM
OK, fine. You want to play it that way? Everybody line up and count off by threes.
 
Threes.
 
@KitΘδς seven.
 
Eleven.
 
@KitΘδς Nine
 
@RegDwightѬſ道 Minions! Knew I was forgetting something!
 
2:37 PM
@MattEllenД Nein!
 
@RegDwightѬſ道 Nyet!
 
head in hands They don't even know how to count off by threes.
 
@KitΘδς I like earls better than counts.
 
@Martha! gasp
 
@MattEllenД It's so funny when we watch snooker on German television, and every second match the referee puts the black ball back on the table and says, "nein!"
 
2:39 PM
@RegDwightѬſ道 :D
 
My wife used to get totally confused by that until I explained the rules to her.
 
@RegDwightѬſ道 Not knowing the first thing about snooker, I don't get it.
 
What does the black ball do?
 
is it not 8? (red + black?)
 
It mustn't fall in one of the holes?
 
2:40 PM
@MattEllenД Obviously, the opponent has scored a red before that, but played it safe.
 
@RegDwightѬſ道 oh sorry, he was calling the break
I forget how it works
 
tee hee. snooker
 
<-- still confused.
 
@Marthaª at the end of a break the ref will report the break score
 
@MattEllenД Oh. In English? Hence the confusion of nine vs. nein?
 
2:42 PM
@Marthaª ya!
 
@MattEllenД so is he actually saying "nine" (i.e. neun) rather than "nein"?
 
@Marthaª You have to pot the balls in alternating order: red, <any color but red>, red, <any color but red>, red, <any color but red>, etc. The red balls stay potted. Any other color is taken out of the pocket and put back onto its designated spot.
So the referee puts the ball back onto the table, and also announces the current points for that player.
 
(Never underestimate my ability to kill a joke via overexplanation.)
 
Ahh.
 
E.g., "9". Which sounds like the German "nein".
 
2:44 PM
Understanding is worth more than a joke, sometimes.
 
1 min ago, by Marthaª
@MattEllenД Oh. In English? Hence the confusion of nine vs. nein?
 
So my wife got totally confused when she saw someone score a point, and then the referee putting the ball back and saying sternly, "nein!". She got even more confused when she realized that other than that the referee would speak English.
 
In other news, why was this migrated to us rather than being told to go look in the dictionary?
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Q: What is the technical name for quotes?

Andrew NeelyThis should be an easy question to answer. In my program, I am building a structure which will hold the symbol which identifies a string literal. I want to give the element a meaningful name that will be clear to those coming after me. My problem is that I can't recall what is the correct word...

 
@Marthaª it was migrated so that we'd have the pleasure of closing it as gen ref
 
@JSBᾶngs Actually, it's not even general ref, because the word he wants is -wait for it- quotation marks.
(I.e., what's easier than general reference?)
 
2:51 PM
No, it's "string delimiter."
 
or is it ananas?
 
It's not actually gen ref. He asking for a technical term.
 
"'Quotes' is 'quotes'," I say.
 
@KitΘδς Eh. Maybe.
 
I still think it should be closed. We don't do variable names.
 
2:52 PM
^ This.
 
For all I care, just call it $a.
Seriously.
 
You misspelled $1,000,000,000,000.
 
Or "ananas."
 
@Robusto No, there is no such thing as "misspell" in source code.
 
2:54 PM
you misspelled £1,000,000,000,000.
 
when i write The second series there with /t d s z/ consists of laminal denti-alveolar obstruents., chrome squiggles three different words. why do you hate linguists, Google? Why??!!
 
@RegDwightѬſ道 — OK, call it a syntax error. Either way, I want my trillion dollars.
 
@JSBᾶngs That's because you misspelled teh, their, and wiz.
@Robusto I want your trillion dollars, too.
 
This room brings tears to my eyes.
 
@Robusto Wait, you have a trillion dollars?
 
2:55 PM
woohoo! we can buy that army navy we always wanted
 
@Marthaª — Sssshhhhh! I don't want the Chinese to know about it.
 
@Marthaª i have 100 trillion dollars in my bedroom. i'm not even lying
 
@JSBᾶngs Yeah, I have that Simpsons episode, too.
 
@JSBᾶngs laminal denti-aveolar obstruents is definitely going in the dirty talk notebook.
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@JSBᾶngs Ah, what nationality, though.
 
2:56 PM
@Marthaª you win the prize
 
@Marthaª Simoleons.
 
@JSBᾶngs Wait what, they have dollars in Hungry?
 
^ looks like that
 
That's not Hungry.
 
Sweeeet.
 
2:57 PM
@JSBᾶngs — So, how many coffees do you get at a Zimbabwe Starbuck's for that amount?
 
That won't even buy you the water.
The real question is, why is it in his *bed*room?
 
@RegDwightѬſ道 wouldn't a hundred trillion dollars turn you on?
 
@JSBᾶngs Meh.
 
@JSBᾶngs You could go to a strip club with a roll of those, maybe?
 

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