English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room

user19161

5:01 PM

I noticed when I saw your diamond and your name change on EL&U.

Grace Note

I changed my name on ELU separate from my employment - I changed it because I finally selected a gravatar

user19161

Ooh, today I noticed EL&U has a blog too. Some of the other sites already have one.

KitΘδς

@JasperLoy It's new as of today, I think.

rumtscho

@GraceNote You choose your user name by Gravatar? It reminds me of Homo Fabers girlfriend, she selected her Studebaker to be in tone with the color of her lipstick.

Grace Note

@rumtscho No, my username is the same on all sites.

I just used a pseudonym during the period that I didn't have a Gravatar.

user19161

5:05 PM

She used to use Once Great here, but now she is great again.

KitΘδς

Oh, that anagram.

rumtscho

But I must admit I like the new Gravatar more than the old one.

user19161

And Dori said she left her computer on which is why she is always in this room.

rumtscho

I will even admit my ignorance.

Who is the lady pictured? Is she a known character?

JSBᾶngs

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Q: What does "I will buy you a burrito" mean?

I wonder is this sentence "I will buy you a burrito" a slang? Thank you,

slang

^ there has to be some reason we can close this

user19161

5:09 PM

We are all ignorant, of different things. How many grains of sand are there? How many stars are there?

Grace Note

@rumtscho Which one? My English Gravatar or my Gaming one (the one you see here in chat)?

user19161

@JSBᾶngs It just means I will buy you a burrito to me, but I don't know.

rumtscho

@GraceNote wait a minute. I see a new Gravatar of you here in chat. It was different last time I saw you.

JSBᾶngs

@JasperLoy exactly. i left a comment to that effect

and i voted to close as NARQ

Grace Note

@rumtscho That one I changed just because I wanted to change my Gaming gravatar to this one.

rumtscho

5:11 PM

I looked at your Gaming profile now. On both, I see a cel shaded anime girl with a pale band in her brown hair.

user19161

@JSBᾶngs But I am wondering whether it has some obscure meaning in some part of the world...

Marthaª

AFAIK, ELU does not have a blog. The link to the main blog has been moved to the top of the page, is all.

simchona

goooood morning!

rumtscho

You used to have some other anime drawing, in blue and magenta.

user19161

@Marthaª Ya I just realised!

JSBᾶngs

5:12 PM

@simchona is it morning where you live?

simchona

yup.

We're all in our places with bright shining faces

Grace Note

It's not actually an anime, they're from video games, but yes.

Bogdan Lataianu

no "buy a burrito" on urbandictionary

user19161

@simchona Some people shine at night you know.

JSBᾶngs

@simchona you're in Nippon, no?

Marthaª

5:12 PM

@simchona (1) It's not morning, and (2) "good" and "morning" together in the same phrase form an oxymoron of epic proportions.

Grace Note

But yes, I used to have one of Second, who was pictured at sunset (hence the blue and magenta tones you recall)

simchona

@JSBᾶngs Nope. It'd be...about 2am Wed. there

Cerberus

@Marthaª 2! Yes, 2, very much so!!

rumtscho

@GraceNote I used "anime" to refer to the drawing style. I also sometimes say "an anime game" for such cases.

JSBᾶngs

@JasperLoy jinx

simchona

5:14 PM

@JSBᾶngs Early morning here.

If I ask a question about whether Cavendish drawl is a dialect, would that be too broad?

Grace Note

@rumtscho I know it's used to refer to the style, but I still enjoy pointing out the distinction because all of my gravatars across the network come from games, not cartoons. I am, after all, a gamer. ♪

Cerberus

@JSBᾶngs More like night! Terribly early.

@simchona Ask it!

user19161

@BogdanLataianu Then you may wish to answer this question.

simchona

@Cerberus Ok!

Gotta go find my sources first

user19161

1 am here.

rumtscho

5:16 PM

@GraceNote Heh, I know the problem. I named my cat after the only German kaiser not called Wilhelm or Otto or Friedrich, and everybody thought I had named him after Lothar Matthäus. And I hate football.

user19161

@rumtscho I hate football too, both kinds.

Grace Note

@rumtscho Haha, nice

JSBᾶngs

@GraceNote how shall we refer to the drawing style, then? manga-style? something more obscure?

Grace Note

At any rate, the old Gravatar was a robot girl named "Second", who came from a game called Lethal Crisis. This one comes from the Fire Emblem series.

@JSBᾶngs Just say "style", really, and I'll be happy.

user19161

I only watch Japanese dramas.

user19161

5:18 PM

I think they are nicer than Korean dramas.

user19161

There are plenty on mysoju.com.

Grace Note

An "anime character" implies that it's a character from a cartoon, whilst an "anime style picture" implies that the style is like shown in said cartoons, which I do note is true.

JSBᾶngs

@GraceNote the reason that i don't like anime-style is that it implicitly excludes manga and video games, both of which may use the style

user19161

My favourite Japanese drama is Heaven's Coins 1 and 2. All with English subtitles of course.

JSBᾶngs

of course manga-style has the same problem. but the manga came first, so this is probably more acceptable

Grace Note

5:19 PM

I'll leave it to your choice, then. The source of the artstyle doesn't matter as much to me, as it is the source of the character.

rumtscho

Oops, I misclicked and got a "Do you want to flag this message as spam or inappropriate" message box, and then the Cancel button didn't function for something like 10-15 frantic clicks. Did somebody see a flag?

JSBᾶngs

@rumtscho i saw nothing

KitΘδς

@simchona kiss Hola, chica.

simchona

@KitΘδς kiss Hi honey

rumtscho

@GraceNote So what is so interesting about the character you chose (besides being from a game you presumably like)? If you needed so long to settle on her, why did you pick her and not somebody else?

user19161

5:25 PM

@kit @sim No flirting in chat!

KitΘδς

It's not flirting. It's kissing.

user19161

Arguably worse.

Grace Note

@rumtscho Are you asking about the Gaming choice or the English choice?

rumtscho

@GraceNote I haven't seen an English choice. I am asking about the character from Fire Emblem, because I assumed she is the new one.

But maybe I just became a victim of the room's incomprehensibleness again.

Grace Note

@rumtscho Yes, the Fire Emblem one is a new one. I just switched to her because I think she's cuter. I mean, Second is nice, but I just like this image more. Nothing more, nothing less.

user19161

5:30 PM

@rumtscho incomprehensibility

rumtscho

@GraceNote OK, I found the English gravatar. Who is she?

user19161

@GraceNote I like this one too!

Grace Note

@rumtscho She is a postgirl from the game "Rune Factory Frontier". I picked her for pun, and I already got thwacked for it.

rumtscho

@JasperLoy What, you understood what I meant. Fail. goes off to spread ashes on head

Grace Note

Aug 1 at 10:30, by Grace Note

@MattEllen I decided to pick a post girl, for you see, she deals with letters

user19161

5:32 PM

@rumtscho By the way, why do most people use gravatar? It should be avatar for the word. Gravatar is a brand of avatars.

Grace Note

Excluding Gaming and Meta Stack Overflow (and a couple more post-employment that are just placeholders), I like to pick some thematic matching between my Gravatar and the site in question. It took me a while to figure out a good link to English Language.

rumtscho

@JasperLoy I think that there is no way to use anything but the brand service Gravatar on StackExchange, so everybody is referring to it as their Gravatar instead of their StackExchange avatar.

user19161

@rumtscho True, I'm too pedantic!

Bogdan Lataianu

@Jasper I prefer gravatar...avatar is like something for kids

rumtscho

@GraceNote I still don't get the pun. Unless "Rune factory" means that she shoots actual runes or something.

user19161

5:34 PM

@BogdanLataianu I never watched the Avatar movie, looks silly.

rumtscho

@BogdanLataianu Wait until a Hinduist hears that. You'll have a whole new religious discussion on your hands.

Bogdan Lataianu

me neither

Cerberus

Wow. My Firefox is at 1600 MB and keeps freezing.

user19161

@rumtscho I believe it is Hindu.

user19161

@Cerberus 1600 MB of what?

Grace Note

5:35 PM

@rumtscho The pun was in the quote I posted.

rumtscho

@JasperLoy I thought that Hindu is the religion, and Hinduist must be the person who follows it.

user19161

@rumtscho Hinduism is the religion, Hindu is the person.

user19161

And Hindi is the language.

rumtscho

@Cerberus There is actually an addon for that. It sits as a small green dot beside the tabs. Once it reaches 500 MB, it turns red. If you click on it, it restarts Firefox while keeping the whole session saved.

I find it sad that I have to use it, but I do use it.

simchona

@rumtscho No more religious discussion... we got put in timeout yesterday

Cerberus

5:37 PM

@JasperLoy RAM.

user19161

Ubuntu has this stripping girl icon where the girl has less and less clothes with more and more CPU activity.

user19161

It is under Medibuntu repository.

Cerberus

@rumtscho Yeah I am in fact using that, Memory Restart or something. But It is always red anyway, eheh.

rumtscho

@JasperLoy OK, thanks. I was never able to sort them out.

Cerberus

I wish FF could clean up its old RAM once every 20 minutes or so.

Mr. Disappointment

5:39 PM

/foaming

rumtscho

People, it looks dire here. Third warning that my battery is low. And the train (which is called "InterCity with required reservation" because it is against EU regulation to call it Express) is in its 23rd minute of inexplained stay on a station it doesn't even stop at.

user19161

@rumtscho unexplained

user19161

You better off your laptop.

rumtscho

If I drop out of here, just keep your fingers crossed that the battery of my Sony reader holds out until the end of the trip.

simchona

@JasperLoy I think you accidentally a word

user19161

5:42 PM

@simchona Actually that was not an accident, more like what I always say.

rumtscho

If I drop out of here, just keep your fingers crossed that the battery of my Sony reader holds out until the end of the trip.

@JasperLoy By now, I don't spend much thought on spelling niceties.

KitΘδς

@rumtscho fingers crossed

Should I spit in a hat too?

simchona

@Cerberus:

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Q: Would the "Cavendish drawl" be considered a dialect?

I was reading the biography Georgaina by Amanda Foreman, and came across a description of what she calls the Cavendish drawl, an accent of sorts that was spoken by the Cavendish family. One blog refers to it as a patois and wrote that: the Foreman biography quotes various examples of the phen...

british-english dialects

user19161

@simchona plus one for you!

user19161

thwacked by Kit

KitΘδς

5:44 PM

@JasperLoy Hey! Knock it off!

rumtscho

@KitΘδς optional. I never heard of it, but it can't hurt. (At least it can't hurt me, because it's not gonna be my hat).

user19161

I wonder why people wear hats and caps.

KitΘδς

@rumtscho It's part of the old ritual. You were supposed to walk backward, widdershins around a hat with your fingers crossed, then spit in it. "Cross your fingers, spit in your hat."

To undo bad luck.

rumtscho

OK, looks like that was it. "Battery critically low, gonna hibernate now".

Good night for today.

user19161

testing editing here test

Grace Note

5:46 PM

G'nite, @rum

user19161

Oh now I know how to edit and delete here, good!

simchona

So @Grace, how's the new job?

Grace Note

Not bad. Very busy, though. Gotta jump left and right and left and right.

simchona

What do you do?

user19161

@simchona Jumping left and right.

simchona

5:51 PM

Is Grace playing DDR?

ChaosGamer

Hey guys

did you see my new q's?

simchona

LLRRUDUD

user19161

@ChaosGamerΕΛΥēelū Which?

ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū

Ai vs Ah

user19161

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Q: Pronouncing "A": "ai" vs. "ah"

There are words where we say A as Ai, and say A as Ah. First I thought there were some sentences where it sounds better then the other. However, when Koreans say Amen they say it as "Ah-men", and I keep hearing Americans say it as "Ai-men". What is the reason for this?

pronunciation

Grace Note

5:53 PM

@simchona I'm a Community Coordinator, basically.

simchona

I keep reading "ai" as "eye"

Grace Note

My blog post should be... coming up sometime today, I imagine.

simchona

@GraceNote I'll keep an eye out for it -- do they announce all the new employees?

Grace Note

@simchona That's how I read it as well.

@simchona Yep, they do.

simchona

@GraceNote Maybe that's an Asian thing. (You were Taiwanese, right?)

user19161

5:54 PM

@ChaosGamerΕΛΥēelū Having heard many amens, I think the Br say Ah while the Am say Aye.

Matt Ellen Д

@Kit: english.stackexchange.com/questions/37325/… <- you have a good explanation for this comment, if you have time to give it.

simchona

@JasperLoy I think Am say "Ay", not "aye"

@JasperLoy as in "rain"

Grace Note

@simchona I think it's more of an "Anywhere that isn't English speaking thing" kind of thing. In Spanish, it's pronounced "eye" as well.

user19161

@simchona Ya.

simchona

@GraceNote Oh, cool

Cerberus

5:55 PM

@simchona Interesting! I don't have the answer. You could also say that it is merely an accent; I'd say a dialect would usually involve a partly different vocabulary and grammar.

Grace Note

Because "A" is "ah" and "I" is "ee" so when you put "ah ee" together, you get "eye".

Which makes logical sense, unlike English.

simchona

@Cerberus Want to start by saying that? It's better than nothing

@GraceNote Like aikido

user19161

I think amen means so be it.

Grace Note

Aye

Matt Ellen Д

@GraceNote english is full of logic! don't you be go saying no otherwises