English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room - 2011-08-10 (page 1 of 5)

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12:00 AM

@z7sgѪ Good, that means you have not met very evil people, good for you!

@trg: No more swearing, bras, or misogyny.

i have met evil people

@simchona Wait a minute...

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@z7sgѪ I am sorry to hear that.

@GraceNote Ok. Pictures of bras. (Trust me.)

12:02 AM

@simchona Oh, I trust you. I'm just... shaking my head in uf right now.

@simchona pictures sans bra are better of course

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@GraceNote uf?

@z7sgѪ Kit's not here.

@JasperLoy Yes. Uf.

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@z7sgѪ No flirting in chat!

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12:03 AM

@GraceNote I mean uf=?

You're going to run out of valuable brain space if you bother to try and remember all of the odd sounds and such I say.

@simchona you only post them for Kit?

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@GraceNote Like oop!

@JasperLoy Sure.

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The force is gone because it sensed a greater force here...

12:10 AM

Well...

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kiamlaluno sounds like a drink.

It is Esperanto.

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As I recently discovered.

Ah.

@JasperLoy it means "i am the moon yeah?"

12:16 AM

Is that "yeah" in the "o"?

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@z7sgѪ I don't know. Thanks for telling me! I only know he said it was in Esperanto.

It may mean "shadow of the moon" but I'm not sure.

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Anyway I am very scared of dogs. I once got chased by a dog. And cats too. Once a cat jumped at me.

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Luckily someone came and chased the dog away. Or I might have been bitten.

ooh chased by a dog!!! wot a wuss. i've been chased and bitten by many hateful dogs.

i ent scared!

not even if they are fierce and multi-headed

12:18 AM

@Cerberus' bark is worse than his bite.

So wait. Trg came in, swore, and left?

Apr 23 at 1:34, by Robusto

@Robusto Hah you would feel differently if I had considered you worthy of a bite.

@Cerberus — That's still just yapping.

@Cerberus so, who have you bitten?

12:22 AM

I must depart.

Ciao, all.

@Billare au revoir

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@simchona perhaps he got a timed suspension from chat?

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@z7sgѪ True. I consider myself a wuss actually!

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@mana maaaaaaaaaaaaan

Yo @Jasper et al.

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12:29 AM

Oh man, now they have et al in chat too!

shit, did I misuse it

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Chat is now at the standard of a research article.

googles frantically

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It's correct: means "and others".

phew

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12:31 AM

But you only see it when citing authors of books or papers.

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When there are too many authors and you don't wanna name them all.

@JasperLoy — It's called the Slacker Standard.

and I'm a slacker and it's faster to type

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@Robusto True. What's so hard about putting 10 names? It's just a bit more paper and ink.

@JasperLoy — Paper and ink? What is this, 1975?

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12:35 AM

@Manaಠдಠ I noticed you added strange symbols too.

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They look like your face now.

oooh.....why is everyone so mean like that? :(

ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū

To be honest guys; I didn't expect to get 4 votes. Ty.

No problem.

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@ChaosGamerΕΛΥēelū for?

ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū

12:36 AM

nothing

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minimal dialect i c.

omg r we typin lyk this nao?

ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū

I gotta work, so I can't comment everytine right now.

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Q: Would the "Cavendish drawl" be considered a dialect?

I was reading the biography Georgaina by Amanda Foreman, and came across a description of what she calls the Cavendish drawl, an accent of sorts that was spoken by the Cavendish family. One blog refers to it as a patois and wrote that: the Foreman biography quotes various examples of the phen...

british-english dialects

@JasperLoy I think "kiam la luno" is the first half of the first line of some Esperanto poem. Or an Esperanto translation of some English poem. Or something.

ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū

12:38 AM

Here is one funny sentence I made by accident. "Making pun of other people's names."

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@ChaosGamerΕΛΥēelū Good!

ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū

@simchona I didn't know that you were capable of misspelling on purpose.

The world is ending..

@ChaosGamerΕΛΥēelū I think anyone can. I cAn AlSo TyPe LiKe ThIs

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@ChaosGamerΕΛΥēelū Not yet. 2012.

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@simchona That scares me!

ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū

12:41 AM

@simchona ok who are you and where is simchona we all know and love?

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@ChaosGamerΕΛΥēelū Kidnapped I think by this one.

ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū

Great. WHo is going to form a search party?

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@ChaosGamerΕΛΥēelū The CHAOS team.

ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū

@JasperLoy Yeah, world is going to end alright- WHoa CHAOS team? wait, who are they?

@Martha: BTW, just so you don't think I was insulting you earlier, the Japanese meaning "beautiful young woman" is actually a TV trope: tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/…

E.g., "Lately among fans it often takes a self-derogatory tone. Many bishoujo series blatantly appeal to male audiences with pandering tropes, causing large amounts of Selective Squick and Values Dissonance that help cement the otaku stereotype. Adding a guy to the mix ironically just gets it labeled as a Harem Genre story."

So when you thwacked me, what I was saying was you weren't pandering to a male audience.

12:49 AM

@Robusto Uh... ok... if you say so....

:þ

You know I would never insult you on purpose. I mean, not obliquely, or in another language.

ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū

Evrything we say is to be takin lightly.

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@ChaosGamerΕΛΥēelū everything, taken

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1:19 AM

OK, it is strangely quite....

@Martha @Mana @Simchona WAKE UP EVERYBODY!!!!

@ChaosGamerΕΛΥēelū Why?

ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū

I wanna talk...

@ChaosGamerΕΛΥēelū This isn't the place to be for 24/7 conversation

ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū

sigh I wish it was.

well see ys. ttyl.

1:44 AM

heh.

mm?

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@sim Are you still making folders?

@JasperLoy That reminds me. I should be.

5 hours later…

6:31 AM

@grace sorry, I decided that the oscillating gender is the best gender

6:42 AM

Are you awake @waiwai?

4 hours later…

10:40 AM

@badp Oscillation is like picking one, just you switch it. That works.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

10:51 AM

@Cerberus It means "when the Moon [meets the Sun]". @z7sg.

Or perhaps that was what the Greek text around it meant.

Why don't you just ask @kiamlaluno himself?

Does kiam even visit this chat?

11:06 AM

I don't think I want the fiery death of the moon meeting the sun.

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@GraceNote Seems not.

you have a new face @JasperLoy!

Justin Bieber, if my eyes don't deceive me

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@MattEllenД Ya, I think I will switch quite often, like my mood.

Or... maybe it just changed yet again

Refresh time!

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11:08 AM

@GraceNote You need to refresh your browser.

Ah, there we go

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@GraceNote Why don't you change all to your EL one? The EL one looks more adorable then the gaming one.

@JasperLoy I'm inclined to disagree but 'tis a matter of personal taste

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drm65 now has a delta in his name too!

Oh, in case anyone wanted to know - that "new" icon on the blog link now goes away if you either click it, or visit the blog.

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11:14 AM

and what about it replacing the "chat" link?

Unchanged, eheh.

There is a new blog article, though, about 4.5 hours old now

@GraceNote Glad it's kept the ambiguity!

Hehe ♪

11:31 AM

@JasperLoy I like your new avatar.

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@KitΘδς Good! But I think I will change it weekly or so.

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Blue is a very calming and beautiful colour.

At least as often as cat litter, anyway.

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Or fox litter.

@JasperLoy Yes, but your avatar is green.

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11:32 AM

@KitΘδς I would say blue-green then.

OK.

Aquamarine.

Green is good

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Blue and green are supposed to have calming effects, while red has the opposite. Purple is supposed to stimulate creativity.

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But these things are usually crap, just like the article that says girls use exclamation and smileys more.

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I don't know if you have seen the dancing girl optical illusion.

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11:38 AM

The Spinning Dancer

The Spinning Dancer, also known as the silhouette illusion, is a kinetic, bistable optical illusion resembling a pirouetting female dancer. The illusion, created by web designer Nobuyuki Kayahara, involves the apparent direction of motion of the figure. Some observers initially see the figure as spinning clockwise and some counterclockwise. The illusion derives from the lack of visual cues for depth. For instance, her arms could be swinging either closer to the viewer and to the left or farther from the viewer and to the left, and hence with her circling clockwise or counter-clockwise on ...

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It's quite hard to see her turning in both directions if you click on the link and see the first image there.

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I take a few minutes to see the other direction after seeing the first one.

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Some say it is a left right brain thing but supposedly that is not true. It's just how we interpret visual cues.

If I scroll down and up again sometimes she changes direction but I can't get her to change while I'm watching it.

@KitΘδς Eugh, cat litter. :X

I can't understand why people have cats in their homes! Cats are happy living outdoors.

Well OK maybe if you live in an apartment...

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@GraceNote Check the transcript. He was one of the first people ever to hang out here with me.

11:53 AM

I see

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In a way, he laid the foundation for this room.

But yeah, now that he's a mod on Drupal, he just doesn't have the time.

He has that controlling relationship issue too.

@RegDwightѬſ道 He, uh, hasn't been. For a while.

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Oh I see.

Well, I've been way too busy with, um, other issues lately.

Interesting.

Well, perhaps then he will have the time to drop by after all.

@RegDwightѬſ道 I'm pretty sure that's not going to happen.

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11:59 AM

Geez, what have I been missing?

Ihr spricht in Rätseln.

Didn't you notice that he was under someone's thumb?

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I, um, huh? No. What?

I could be completely wrong, I admit, but his behavior spoke strongly of someone who is in a controlling relationship. Probably an abusive girlfriend.

Either that, or awful parents.

Or I suppose he could be some kind of spy.

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Hm.

:-)

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12:02 PM

Probably the latter, then.

Maybe. I dunno. There were a few times when he indicated that he was in big trouble for the conversations he had with me.

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Who is not?

And he'd tell me that someone was watching what he said in chat.

I think that's why he stopped coming here.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Then he probably meant Dori.

Who merged him with some girl in the States.

It wasn't like that.

Hang on, I'll see if I can find an example.

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12:04 PM

I dunno, he mentioned the Calabrian girl on quite a few occasions.

Then again I'm a bloke.

Then again everyone is amle in this room.

There was that merger, yes, but he seemed to be pretty talking with Dori on that subject

The part I'm thinking of has been deleted.

Weird. The other one I was thinking of is gone too.

I can see my comments, but not his.

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See, I told you it's a spy thing.

Well, I still think that boy's Sun is abusing him.

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That boy is over 40 and a hot-blooded Italian. He should be fine.

12:10 PM

If you say so. Makes me think of men on scooters saying ciao!

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I'm in ur BBC lurning Italian right now.

@RegDwightѬſ道 A lot of Italian men are still living at home with mama well into adulthood.

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@z7sgѪ I know. I saw an excellent programme about that on arte just a month ago or so.

They compared Italy, Spain, Sweden, France and a few other countries wrt when children move out or whether at all.

The food is probably good at least.

Dove la ferroviaria?

Non parli italiano.

Sono turista.

12:13 PM

indeedo

That's the extent of my Italian.

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Lasciate mi cantare.

something your singing

But I don't know any Italian songs.

Unless Dean Martin counts.

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Feb 2 at 14:29, by RegDwight

@KitΘδς You know Via con me.

12:14 PM

@RegDwightѬſ道 I can't sing it though.

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A question that is its own answer and two non answers.

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Q: Police in general as "feds"

There are many slang terms for the police, and one which has recently been in the news in the UK is "the feds", as in if you see a brother... SALUT! if you see a fed... SHOOT! Cassell's Dictionary of Slang (2005) records this sense as "[1990s+] (UK Black/teen) a policeman". It seems likely ...

british-english slang

The beagle cries on fight night

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Let the mighty beagle soar.

12:32 PM

'Why do some words have "X" as a substitute?'
Because they have been marked as deprecated and will be removed from the language

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Talking about Italian songs...

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Nice scenery in this video too.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Good morning boys and girls. For those of you where it's morning.

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@MrShinyandNew安宇 Zao an!

12:40 PM

@MrShinyandNew安宇 hi!

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@MattEllenД Funny thing, there are so many chinese-speakers/learners here in this chat, but also, my new coworker who sits next to me is ALSO learning Chinese. I need to get a move on and become fluent! Because knowing a little Chinese doesn't seem so special anymore :p

whoops, that was meant to be a reply to @Jasper

The chat window psyched me out on that link that moved just before I clicked it

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@MrShinyandNew安宇 Happens to me too!

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

anyway, @MattEllen, good morning

:)

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But anyway I would rather not have learnt Chinese. It took a lot of time, I don't like the language, and I don't think I'll ever need to use it much.

12:44 PM

you just wait

we'll all be speaking chinese in a year or so!

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@JasperLoy I dunno. You can't argue with 1.1 billion people.

Unless you speak their language, I suppose.

exactly!

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@MrShinyandNew安宇 True, but you see, I won't argue with them!

bow, scrape, bow, scrape, rinse , reapeat

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

I think that as Chinese people emigrate more and more around the world they will spread Mandarin (and simplified Chinese, sorry HK) and it will become more and more advantageous to know it.

12:47 PM

HEX YOU SIMPLIFIED!

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

True story: I went on a trip to Aruba (I'm from Canada). In Aruba they speak Dutch (officially) and Papiamento (official and/or local language) plus lots of spanish, plus those who deal with tourists speak English. But for some reason all the grocery stores (literally every single one I saw/visited) is operated by Chinese people (most have chinese names with Hanzi on the signs). We went into one store and couldn't converse with the staff in English but were able to communicate in Mandarin!

@GraceNote I used to feel that way. But now I like it better. And in fact now I'm an advocate for doing away with Hanzi altogether and moving towards pinyin or something better.

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@KitΘδς Yet another person with issues.

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Hah, I'm opposed on both accounts.

We have too many romanization methods for Pinyin, not enough letters to correctly represent our sounds, and overall the structure is more functional to me.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@GraceNote Basically, Hanzi is not flexible enough to keep up with the language change, and computers are making it even less flexible. For example, there are words in taiwan that can only be represented by the letter Q.

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@GraceNote I think hanyupinyin will do well, but that's because I learnt it, and that's the only one I know.

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12:51 PM

@GraceNote I agree that reading hanzi can be very efficient. But writing it is hard, very hard, and difficulty reading pinyin is just due to training.

Educated chinese-language readers naturally find reading characters easier than romainzation. But that's because that's how they practice it. There are lots of languages in the world that are written how they are pronounced (like, say, Korean) and they have no issues with reading/writing. So the Chinese could easily adapt with a bit of practice.

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@KitΘδς True, considering his name is in Esperanto.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

And Hanyu pinyin is a pretty decent romanization... I agree that there are too many romanizations and you'd have to pick one. But that one is already the standard now and the others are fading (for Mandarin, at least).

There's a lot to hate about pinyin. But it's ok, overall.

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@RegDwightѬſ道 "Merged" is an interesting word choice here.

@MrShinyandNew安宇 I first learned Chinese through Pinyin, actually.

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@GraceNote "Merger" is an interesting word choice here, but you probably got it from Reg.

12:56 PM

The problem for me became that they changed the popular pinyin system after a decade, so anything I write is mostly not understood. Comparatively, the zhuyin hasn't changed at all.

@JasperLoy It's because, literally, kiamlaluno's account was merged with another account.

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@MattEllenД Are you brushing teeth?

@JasperLoy maybe if I bow low enough...

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@MattEllenД Then what were you doing? I'm lost.

@JasperLoy um, I think I was paying my respects to our soon to be Chinese overlords

bow and scrape idiom

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Wow, FL is at 90 per cent. By the end of this month it could be in public beta.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

1:07 PM

@GraceNote Can you give me an example of something you write that wouldn't be understood? And out of curiosity, did you learn in taiwan, or mainland china, or somewhere else?

@MrShinyandNew安宇 I have never been to mainland China, and I've learned both in the US and in Taiwan. It's kind of a progressional thing.

@MrShinyandNew安宇 How would you write "strawberry"?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

hm, I don't know the word for strawberry

@MrShinyandNew安宇草莓

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

I guess the romanization I'd use is Cǎoméi

Yeah, see, I'd learned it with "Ts" instead of "C"

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

1:12 PM

That's probably not Hanyu pinyin, but rather Wade-Giles. The fact that you learned in Taiwan and the US is telling. The Taiwanese resisted Hanyu Pinyin because it was from Mainland China.

So when you say "they changed the romanization", what that really means is that the one used in Taiwan has become marginalized because the more popular (in terms of number of users) system in the PRC has taken over.

Just like how simplified will eventually replace traditional because, as I said earlier, you can't argue with 1.1 billion people. There's too many, they just over-dominate.

@GraceNote: Is this what you meant by zhuyin earlier? secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Bopomofo

I'm not really strongly on my position, by the way. I'm not going to yield from it, of course, but when I say "they changed the romanization", I didn't mean that in a sense that "The Man is changing things on me argh", if it came out that way.

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Yes, that is what I mean. Also, we wrote it as bu pu mu.

Grace note: Destroying English one sentence at a time since 1896

;-)

@MattEllenД Ima succeed very well on that initiative, as it were.

and as it will be

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@GraceNote I guess what I'm trying to say is that the romanizations haven't changed much per se (well, there HAVE been changes to Hanyu Pinyin... but minor), but rather the system of romanization that is most used has changed. So if you never learned Hanyu Pinyin, then you will have trouble reading it (it's not intuitive as you note from the c->ts thing), but once you learn it, it's very easy to use (easier than wade-giles, I'd say)

1:18 PM

@MrShinyandNew安宇 I'm aware that Hanyu has been around since earlier

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Minorities can set the trend; while it is perhaps more likely that the majority will dominate, it isn't impossible that they will not, especially if the minority is an elite of some sort. After all, every new change also started with a small group. Not saying that the minority will prevail in this case, though: just that you never know...

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus well, true, if the minority has some kind of power. Like, the PRC government is a minority of people in the PRC with the power to change the whole writing system AND the romanization system.

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Yes, power helps. But consider also the trend of low-hanging pants: it presumably originated in prisons.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@GraceNote since the 50s, I think

Some kind of cultural power, or just the intrinsic appeal of an innovation, may be enough in some cases.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

1:24 PM

@Cerberus yeah, but if someone else had come up with a competing fashion that was better (for whatever metric determines fashion goodness) then it could have beaten the low-hanging pants fashion. But once it's too widespread it becomes harder to displace. (but fashion is a bad example because it changes faster than language)

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Absolutely; if something is used by the majority, that gives it a great momentum.

holy what the f?

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Q: Is there an English word to describe someone like this?

He is not sad about not being loved, because he thinks if he is not loved by this Person, he will find love from Others. The world is small. We will meet again. Using optimistic is not enough to up level him :shy:./ He must be used with other words that sounds more roaming (bang bang boom bo...

single-word-requests

@MattEllenД Hey! I just came here to post about that!

@Marthaª I just upvoted your comment :D

NARQ. voted to close

but of course our friend Thursagen has offered something useless

1:39 PM

@MattEllenД That's nice, but now what am I supposed to do with this link occupying my clipboard? :þ

@Marthaª feed it to your cat? :3

@MattEllenД Don't have one at the moment. Well, I do, sorta, but she lives with my sister. And she's pretty finicky; I don't think links are her cup of tea.

Cut it in small pieces and feed it to her from a small jar?

@JSBᾶngs Of course. In fact, I get a faint whiff of socks and puppets here. Not enough to act on, mind you, but the whiff is there.

@Marthaª maybe you could fashion it into a bracelet and wear it about town

1:42 PM

@MattEllenД Hmm, crafty.

(Oh dear, I think I need to go thwack myself. Pardon me, brb.)

lol

faint sound of a thwack followed by an ow!

Ok, sorry, I'm back. Where were we?

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Um, flags is now plurale tantum? Fascinating.

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Q: Which sentence would be more preferred?

This is the first time I drink this milk. This is the first time I drink this milk type. This is the first time I drink this type of milk. I think the second and third sentences are not that good.

meaning sentence

Everything this guy asks needs to be eliminated.

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A: How should we treat a plural term that refers to singular term?

"Flags" is a plural noun referring to a singular entity. Other such examples are "trousers", which are plural, but refer to a singular entity, "entrails", which are plural, but used to refer to a singular entity. These nouns are called plurale tantum The sentence you gave is grammatical, because...

1:46 PM

Who is speaking of Him?

btw i want to kill almost everything with sentence

the tag itself probably needs to go... it has no clear meaning, and its presence is a reliable indicator of a poor question

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@JSBᾶngs I want to kill almost everything with fire, but hey, tastes differ.

No, "kiam la luno renkontas la sunon" means "when the moon meets the sun," which is my signature on Drupal.org.

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See, I told you kiamlaluno would show up!

Thanks for the clarification.

So I basically remembered it right.

Yay kiamlaluno!

1:48 PM

@kiamlaluno is that esperanto?

The gravatar I am using shows the image of the sun (in false colors), and the image of the moon (the K).

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3 hours ago, by RegDwight Ѭſ道

@Cerberus It means "when the Moon [meets the Sun]". @z7sg.

The sentence in Greek said the same thing.

@JSBᾶngs Yep; it's Esperanto.

why have i been pinged? i knew what it meant all along. i was just kidding around.

@z7sgѪ Because you are Zvensg, and Zvensg is here to get pinged.

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1:50 PM

Ping him! Ping him some more!!

Ping at will!

@RegDwightѬſ道 Quelle surprise!

Ow stop pinging!!!

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@z7sgѪ I will stop pinging you the moment I will stop pinging you, and not a second earlier.

By the way, @Kiam, where does that kiam come from? Quando?

And hi!

As a matter of fact, the signature is referring to a person I have met. Contrary to what somebody would think, "moon" is referring to me, and there is no relation between "la luna" being a feminine name in Italian. It's referring to my mood before to meet that person.

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1:52 PM

@Cerberus "Kiam" is "wenn" spelled backwards.

The problem is I don't know you haven't stopped pinging until I get pinged again. Maybe you have stopped already. I cannot know this. :(

@RegDwightѬſ道 In Braille?

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@z7sgѪ That's the fun!

Such. Fun.

@Cerberus It means "when," but I guess it comes from Greek, as kay does.

La luno kay la suno.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

1:53 PM

Like that one time, on HIMYM, when Barney, haha, you know it was hilarious, haha.

From Greek? But from what word?

Kay = kai?

RegDwight Ѭſ道

My money is on ananas.

That's just the Dutch language, though.

What is?

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Yes.

1:54 PM

Quite

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Yesterday between, but also then.

When = hotan, epei(dê) in Greek, perhaps a few more that I can't think of.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Haha. "A few more that I can't think of".

@Cerberus Kay means and.

@RegDwightѬſ道 Funny?

RegDwight Ѭſ道

1:55 PM

It also means yak, but backwards.

I think in Greek it's kai.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@Cerberus Where?

@kiamlaluno Right. And what did they base kiam on?

@Cerberus That is from k + iam.

@RegDwightѬſ道 You found something funny in my remark, and I asked why/what.

@kiamlaluno Latin iam = already, now?

RegDwight Ѭſ道

1:56 PM

@Cerberus I found funny how you put "I can't think of" and "a few" in the same sentence.

And the k to indicate that it introduces a subordinate clause?

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Everybody knows that what you can't think of is measured in manies, not in fews.

Ah, I see.

@RegDwightѬſ道 But my memory functions comparatively well concerning things that I intuitively perceive a connection between.

It is mainly random bits and pieces, things that feel unconnected, that I can never remember.

Rules of grammar, idiom, that sort of thing is easy enough to remember.

Vocabulary a trifle less so.

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