English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room

@Cerberus but the style is calculated, putting styles onto entries depending on how many there are. so I'm not sure you can create the stylesheet that would do that

user19161

@Monica It's OK if it gets closed or downvoted. It does not mean anything really.

Cerberus

1:09 PM

@MattЭллен Hmm...there are userstyles that somehow purported to change Google to two columns in the past.

user19161

Ask and you shall be answered!

Monica

Ok

Thanks

user19161

So javascript is different from java right?

Cerberus

@Monica You could post it here and see what the vox populi thinks?

Matt Эллен

@Monica don't think of closing as a final action. Closing is like a suspension. the reason for closing should explain how you need to change your question to make it acceptable. Once you edit your question to be acceptable, then it will be reopened

@ClarkKent very (from a programming perspective)

Monica

1:10 PM

here?

the whole post?

user19161

@MattЭллен So I don't need to install java to use javascript in my browser right?

Cerberus

Here in chat, start with just the title?

Monica

OK

Cerberus

I'm assuming you have a very clear, descriptive title that immediately tells us what it is about, hehe.

Matt Эллен

@ClarkKent that is correct.

Cerberus

1:11 PM

If not, perhaps revise it.

Monica

:D

Cerberus

winks

Monica

Maybe not

user19161

@MattЭллен Anyway it seems not many sites use java these days.

Matt Эллен

@ClarkKent not on the front end. Java backends are very common

Cerberus

1:12 PM

Is your title "question about english"?

Monica

No

user19161

@monica Just post it, quick!

Cerberus

Okay, then it could be worse!

Monica

:D

Maybe not

Cerberus

Is it "grammer question", perhaps?

Monica

1:13 PM

My title is; Do these questions sound natural?'

user19161

@Cerberus Has this become a guessing game?

Monica

:D

Indeed

user19161

@Monica So what are the questions?

Monica

just a mnute

Cerberus

@Monica Okay, could you include (the essential part of) one of those questions in the title?

Like a few words.

Monica

1:13 PM

Which is the most natural way to ask about this?

Whose are these notebooks?- (Of) our students'. (These notebooks are of our students/These notebooks belong to our students)

Whom do these notebooks belong to?- (To ) our students.

To whom do these notebooks belong? ( To) our students.

Who do the notebooks belong to? - (To)our students

As far as I know, 'to whom' is a very formal question, but what about the rest? Is it the same with
'To whom are you talking?- 'To our students.' (To is not optional in these three sentences, is it?)

user19161

@Monica Good question, post it on the main site!

Monica

Now I am all ears

Matt Эллен

@Monica so you are asking about who vs whom?

Monica

I think I now the use

but I am not sure

Cerberus

Yeah, post it. But I think perhaps the second half is a separate question.

Matt Эллен

1:15 PM

yeah, who vs whom must be a dupe

user19161

@MattЭллен Not just that, the position of the preposition is another issue. This is a good question.

Monica

Ok

Cerberus

I would say "whose textbooks are these?".

But your other options sound OK too.

Monica

really?

Matt Эллен

3

Q: With who vs. With whom

Is this correct? The person with whom I'm doing the project should be here soon. If it is, is "with" always a dative preposition? (like "mit" in German)

whom

Monica

1:16 PM

I have been told that my sentence is wrong

But why? I couldn't understabd

Cerberus

Which one?

Monica

The one you mentioned

Cerberus

Oh, "Whose are these notebooks?"?

That is different.

Monica

yes

Cerberus

I would not use "whose" on its own as the subject.

Monica

1:17 PM

This is wrong, right?

Cerberus

Not exactly wrong, but unusual.

Monica

I see

I have to go now

Cerberus

I would not be surprised if I read it in some book.

user19161

So you should post the question and get a complete answer now!

Monica

hmmm

Cerberus

1:17 PM

But "whose textbooks are these?" is fine.

Monica

Yes, should do that right away

Cerberus

The difference is that here you have "whose textbooks" before the verb.

Whereas in your example it's just "whose".

user19161

Like I said there are many issues here, not just who vs whom.

Monica

Oh, yes

Ok

Cerberus

But I would still say your version is correct as well.

Monica

1:19 PM

Thank you, all

Cerberus

Especially with a lot of emphasis on "whose", as in an angry teacher.

Bye

Bye!

I am back again

welcome back

1:22 PM

I can't think of a title

Thanks

I am not asking about whom and who

there are too many questions in that post

Matt Эллен

Well, it seems you're interested in of vs to?

what should I do?

oh, no, ok

;S

I'll have another read

it's more who vs whom vs whose when asking about ownership

Monica

1:26 PM

I will write ' whom vs who and replies'

because I have to find out if the answers are right too

Will this title work?

user19161

@Monica Sure. Others may edit for you after you post it. Have more confidence in your English!

Matt Эллен

@Monica and whose, don't forget whose!

Monica

Ok

:)

user19161

@MattЭллен And don't forget me.

Monica

:D

Matt Эллен

1:28 PM

who?

JSBձոգչ

we have a whom tag?

do we also have who?

Monica

Oh

JSBձոգչ

what about where, when, and why?

Monica

Those tags

user19161

@JSBձոգչ Your name has finally appeared everywhere on this planet.

JSBձոգչ

1:31 PM

@ClarkKent good! i hope you like albanian

user19161

@Monica He's just joking! There are many jokes in this room.

user19161

@JSBձոգչ I don't even know it is Albanian.

JSBձոգչ

now you do!

Monica

It takes forever to find a suitable tag

How old are you all, by the way?

If that's not a secret of course

Matt Эллен

far too old

user19161

1:32 PM

@Monica Which is why I don't care about tags myself. I usually tag my own questions with one tag only.

user19161

@Monica 5 years older than you if I read the transcript correctly.

Monica

I thought you are 25-30

Matt Эллен

tags are really useful for finding dupes, so questions should be tagged appropriately. Also they should be someone's first port of call when looking for answers to questions that they have.

@Monica the regular chatters are 15-??

user19161

@MattЭллен Yes sir!

user19161

@MattЭллен Very helpful answer.

Matt Эллен

1:34 PM

I'm 31

user19161

@MattЭллен Same year as me but a few months earlier you were born.

Monica

Ah, yes of course far too old :D

Matt Эллен

:D

Monica

I think the title of my quetion is stupid

:(

user19161

@Monica Soon we will be dead and there will be new life!

Monica

1:36 PM

No wonder if someone else says that this time about my psot

:D

Matt Эллен

@Monica Don't worry, there are plenty of people who will want to edit your question!

Monica

:D

OK

user19161

@Monica John Lawler probably did not mean it badly. Also he was referring not to your question but to the question in your question.

user19161

@MattЭллен I will leave it to the lesser mortals!

Monica

But the questin in my question was asked by me

never mind

user19161

1:38 PM

@Monica Well, then see my first sentence. I have gotten all sides covered!

Matt Эллен

we heard you like questions, so we put questions in your questions so you can question while you question

JSBձոգչ

i'm sorry, i misled you terribly

Monica

I still can't accept them

JSBձոգչ

my letters are armenian, not albanian

user19161

@JSBձոգչ Oh was it a typo or a joke?

Matt Эллен

1:39 PM

OMJ @JSB How could you lie to me like that?!

user19161

@MattЭллен OMJ?

JSBձոգչ

i'm sorry. i'll never do it again.

Matt Эллен

@ClarkKent Oh My Yaweh

user19161

@JSBձոգչ You are pardoned.

JSBձոգչ

OMJ = Oh My Justin (Bieber)

user19161

1:40 PM

@MattЭллен Ah, I thought you were calling me for help!

Matt Эллен

:D

user19161

I am with you always, even to the end of the world.

Monica

Ohhh

No, I didn't

user19161

@monica Chat tip. Do you know you can use the right arrow to reply?

Matt Эллен

@Monica :D did you only just remember?

questions pronouns

Monica

1:44 PM

Oh, wow!

:D

'Pronouns' is this a suggested tag?

Matt Эллен

I am suggesting these tags, yes :)

Monica

mersi

:)

user19161

So many smiles today.

Matt Эллен

you can inline tags here: [tag:tag-name] e.g. [tag:tense]

user19161

@Monica Isn't it merci?

Monica

1:45 PM

I mean French 'thanks'

I have asked it at last

user19161

It is finished!

Monica

I have to go now

have a great day, everyone

Bye

Matt Эллен

see you!

JSBձոգչ

@ClarkKent τετελεσθαι

user19161

@JSBձոգչ Wow wow this room has all the languages of the world, amazing!

JSBձոգչ

1:49 PM

@ClarkKent not all of them. We lack Old Sumerian and Nahuatl.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

0

Q: Using dashes when omitting verb

The claim start date is reported as the start date of the episode and the end date as the first billable visit. OR The order start date is reported as the episode date and the end date--as the date of the first provided visit. Do we need dash before "as" when we omitted the verb "is reported"?

dash

This is a dupe, but good luck finding the original.

user19161

s;ldkm;klmdsf;vlkdmfvkl (Old Sumerian)

user19161

sdmnckasjdnckjdns (Nahuatl)

user19161

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 Thank you, you may save the luck for yourself since I don't intend to find it.

user19161

@Monica Bye! Never be afraid to ask!

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

1:53 PM

Well I'm slowly getting closer.

2

Q: Are commas properly used in "He who can, does. He who cannot, teaches."?

George Bernard Shaw said, "He who can, does. He who cannot, teaches." Are commas properly used in these sentences? In my mind, the comma in each sentence improperly separates the noun ("he") from the verbs ("does" and "teaches"). The other phrases ("who can" and "who cannot") are dependent clause...