Puzzles Etc.

haha...I saw the mouse in your dp. I deduced that you love your mouse. So you keep it to yourself always. And as we know that everyone have cat. So it was the only explanation

humn

you deserved those points, manshu, i'll give them back to you in a bounty if the delete goes through

manshu

Why did you choose to delete it?

humn

8:15 PM

i didn't know the answer when i posed it, so the only real puzzle was the contrived step 1 which you solved in a blink

i assumed that many people were as bewildered as i was

manshu

It doesn't mean that you need to delete it...

question_asker

Manshu, take your own words to heart...

manshu

Learn something from @You , He got several downvotes on one of his puzzles.

But he still posted it's 2nd part

humn

if it's the one i noticed, i liked it a lot more than the peach puff pink poop

manshu

I took my words to the heart then it stopped pumping

humn

8:19 PM

(too drowsy to do anything but giggle) (and be curious what the ghost of q_a meant)

manshu

My this question was a homework question.

3

Q: In the world of three electric charges

Imagine a world in which there are three kinds of electric charges instead of two. In this world, like charges repel and unlike charges attract. Let these types of charges be $A, B$ & $C$. Thus $A$ & $A$ repel, $A$ & $B$ attract, $A$ & $C$ attract and so on. Coulombs inverse square law is valid a...

science

Me and my friend were laughing when people were solving it.. :p

humn

i was into that puzzle but didn't learn MS Paint quickly enough to be involved

guess i rarely notice who's behind which puzzle

manshu

sometimes I do notice.

I remember you answered one of my question too.

12

Q: How to choose the best answer in puzzles?

I gave my friends a lateral thinking puzzle There are six eggs in the basket. Six people each take one of the eggs. How can it be that one egg is left in the basket? My intended answer was But one of my friend answered Clearly my friend's answer is more creative then my own (as late...

puzzle-creation puzzle-theory

Will

Question: do any of you pause a TV show when there are puzzles on-screen, or is that just me?

manshu

this one

I don't watch TV

I pause the studies.

humn

8:22 PM

sometimes look up the puzzle on youtube too, like for the movie mean girls

Will

ha

humn

what do watch when you pause the studies?

manshu

I chat here by pausing studies.

humn

by the way, manshu, that question has stuck in my mind because it was so different and because it was at the same time as you solved the case of the cat and mouse

question_asker

I'm still thrilled that manshu said that thing about Columbus earlier

humn

8:26 PM

really thought more people would pipe in ...... ^^^^^^^^^^^^?

manshu

@question_asker Maybe I should put it as an answer

question_asker

(Sorry just popping back above ground now)

humn

you may cross this way again, q_a, but you must answer this question 1

what about Columbus?

manshu

1 hour ago, by manshu

I just don't get how people can get offended by hitler's name...If we are getting offended by his name then we should also get offended by the name of christopher columbus..coz he killed 10000 americans

question_asker

Oh, just that Columbus is a big old genocider

manshu

8:28 PM

yup.

humn

and where i live, near Mission San Jose, it's all about a Father Junipero Serra, whose

requisition lists included lots of manacles, and might've been canonized recently

question_asker

Oh wow, didn't know anything about him

humn

had a good publicist

manshu

In my country, people won't really get offended by a killer's name. But they will surely get offended on the name of religion.

question_asker

Haha

manshu

8:31 PM

People, Y U DO THIS?

humn

really?!

manshu

yup.

question_asker

Yeah, my whole point was just like, it's not the name that's offensive. It's important to remember people's names, even awful ones. It's the ideology that's offensive

humn

In USA, members of one political party are afraid to answer the riddle: what is your enemy's name?

manshu

I would answer that proudly, on the face of my enemy.

humn

8:32 PM

power to the people!

(and by the way the thing up there wasn't about religions, purely parties)

manshu

I guess, no one will be around here tomorrow.

@question_asker yeah?

Chris Cudmore

I won't

humn

won't be around there?

manshu

why don't you all use the internet at home?

question_asker

Yeah I probably won't be around tomorrow

humn

8:34 PM

you earned a weekend off once

question_asker

@manshu it's too much like work :p

humn

while you're here now, q_a, thanks again for including a piece of my screenshot in your screenshot

didn't notice that at first

manshu

@question_asker work at home?

humn

can't serve better than that for calibration

question_asker

Haha admittedly it was unintentional

humn

8:36 PM

like K_K's rebus masterpiece.. those things i notice. "Tags" and "Users" staring at me, not so much

question_asker

I was just trying to get as many elements in as possible without giving away unnecessary info

manshu

humn is the most thankful person I have ever came across.

Chris Cudmore

Did we ever solve the bus u's cycle?

manshu

which cycle?

question_asker

If you mean the one I think, no

humn

8:38 PM

been keeping an eye on that one too

Chris Cudmore

9

Q: Rebuses linked by a certain topic

See if you can solve these rebuses which range from easy to hard. They are all linked by a topic. On e luu (-4) EDIT: Hints: *Note the images of the flags, bus, spring, trophy outline and the text for 'tumn' do not belong to me (all obtained online).

rebus knowledge

Is it obscure? or am I going to slap myself when I see the answer?

humn

right.

question_asker

Oh I was thinking of the other rebus with bus in it

manshu

No, you are probabably going to slap me

humn

picture of a bus or "bus" rewritten?

oh, manshu, you'll have to say please

question_asker

8:40 PM

I was thinking of bus rewritten, and against "stacked up"

humn

right, but what sport has "rebus" in it?

manshu

He is not pleasing me by slapping me.

humn

only, he slaps whomever he pleases

manshu

But the whomever doesn't get pleased

humn

that's the only way it can be consistent

manshu

8:42 PM

@ChrisCudmore Who are you gonna slap?

humn

if you got slapped and weren't pleased then you wouldn't've gotten slapped in the first place

question_asker

Ghostbusters!

manshu

I would like to buy a hamburger

►

My fav. scene from any movie

humn

(giggling away)

Chris Cudmore

I was expecting her to slap him at the end.

humn

8:46 PM

there's still some slapping left to do if you're not quite satisfied

q_a, when you supermerged from silent running, did you take turn with googlespeakekekekekekekekek?

Chris Cudmore

@question_asker Bounty expired. You going to clue us in?

humn

or have you already another time?

question_asker

?

Khale_Kitha

sigh....

humn

Chris, are you asking q_a or am i gullible again? (because the bounty was Q A's)

Chris Cudmore

8:48 PM

9

Q: Rebuses linked by a certain topic

See if you can solve these rebuses which range from easy to hard. They are all linked by a topic. On e luu (-4) EDIT: Hints: *Note the images of the flags, bus, spring, trophy outline and the text for 'tumn' do not belong to me (all obtained online).

rebus knowledge

question_asker

Ohhh

Yeah, that's adifferent person

Chris Cudmore

Imposter!

humn

still looking for the word.... doppelnimmer? doppelgenannter?

question_asker

Sorry for beefing, btw kk

Khale_Kitha

Meh, it gave me time to go figure out this stupidity.

I've been trying to figure out why a section of code didn't work for 4 days.

The old (old, old) code that I'm using uses a datatype that, apparently, mimics a Delphi datatype

humn

8:52 PM

that was the sigh....?

Khale_Kitha

The problem is...;;

The documentation for the datatype doesn't mention one MAJOR bit of information

docs.embarcadero.com/products/rad_studio/radstudio2007/…

Chris Cudmore

If we're sticking with greek, it's "duplonym"

Khale_Kitha

I found it on the substring command

It's 1 indexed!!!

Sigh...

humn

gotta be right, Chris, though i was trying for the parallel of doppelganger

Chris Cudmore

It's like the first time we ever used the Java Date class.

Why are days and years normal, but months 0 indexed.

Khale_Kitha

8:53 PM

rofl

Yeah, I have 3 matrices in one spot on this program

2 are indexed 0-20, 0-20

no....

2 are indexed 1-20, 1-20

Chris Cudmore

So January 1, 2013 would be 1-0-2013

Khale_Kitha

and 1 is indexed 1-20, 0-20

Moving that over to .NET was annoying.

I'm migrating old Borland C++ code, from 96, to .NET - developed by a person who was not a programmer

It's been an exercise in patience.

question_asker

lol

god, that's obnoxious

Khale_Kitha

And of course, there's the fun pointer arithmetic.

I've got one pointer that points to index 28 of another array

So my .NET code looks like this...

(Until I rewrite it, once it's working)

question_asker

@humn what does this do

ohhh, that's what it does

humn

8:56 PM

???what did that???

question_asker

but yeah, humn, I don't understand multiple points of that question

Khale_Kitha

for (int i = 0; i < ptr.Value.mScheduleLength; i++)
{
char templateItem = template[i];
switch (templateItem)
{
case ('#'):
schedule[HORIZON_START + i] = '_';
break;
case ('x'):
schedule[HORIZON_START + i] = 'x';
break;
}

if (grid[idx, 29 + i] == "OFD")
{
schedule[HORIZON_START + i] = 'x';
numberOfOfficeDutyDays++;
}
}

question_asker

10 mins ago, by humn

q_a, when you supermerged from silent running, did you take turn with googlespeakekekekekekekekek?

humn

nice puzzle, K_K, your next post?

Khale_Kitha

lol

yeah, well...

Chris Cudmore

8:57 PM

You're using switch, which makes me angry.

question_asker

also: now I'm on my mac, so I have to re-remember that flowersquiggle is ctrl

I end up fn-[key]ing instead of squiggle-[key]ing

Khale_Kitha

haha, why's taht, Chris?

(And like I said, this code is being copied as 1:1 as possible, until it works. I hate a LOT of it)

Except where I can convert things that are clearly nonsense, without causing trouble =D

Chris Cudmore

I'll allow it for menu driven console based apps with keyboard input (D = deposit, W= withdraw etc.)

But theres almost always a prettier way of doing it.

humn

dispatch table?

Khale_Kitha

That depends, highly, on the scenario. In most cases, the switch is cleaner to read than other methods.

question_asker

9:00 PM

lol my favorite car alarm is going off now.

Khale_Kitha

Especially over a series of if statements

humn

(nodding in agreement, not nodding off)

question_asker

I like if statements better, but I think switch is more... intuitive? readable?

humn

once you get more than 50 cases, ifs start getting too indented

Chris Cudmore

Well, you're probably severely limited by the original data types chosen.

question_asker

9:02 PM

but I'm, by all evidence, not a programmer

Chris Cudmore

But you should never have 50 cases. Your programme should never be in a state where there are 50 cases.

Khale_Kitha

Agreed

And to respond to you, Chris.

I simply provide you with this:

LinkedList<Node> shortList = new LinkedList<Node>();

LinkedListNode<Node> last = mCopiedList.Last;

snickers

humn

i picked a ridiculous number on purpose. 49 wasn't enough to make the point

Khale_Kitha

In this case, though - I might actually keep the linked list, because of how they're used - but we'll see.

humn

i'm still looking OFD in my texting dictionary

question_asker

9:04 PM

oxen for days

as in

Khale_Kitha

Haha, no idea - It's an app for scheduling people.

Chris Cudmore

Ok, that looks like something someone wrote after their first month in data structures.

question_asker

"check out that farmer's daughter, she got oxen for days"

humn

teach me more, wise one.. much obliged vvvvvvvv

Khale_Kitha

I'm not sure it went that far, Chris

And would you like to know the reason that I emulated with linked lists, at the moment? hahahaha

humn

9:06 PM

give

Chris Cudmore

Nobody actually uses linked structures. Array base implementations of linked structures are the standard. Actual linked objects are just a pedagogical tool.

Khale_Kitha

The class that I'm immitating is a simple class, with a pointer to the same type as "Next". Therefore, there's no actual list, and, therefore, NO way to find out how many items are in the fake list.

Chris Cudmore

The object creation overhead is nuts.

Khale_Kitha

Yeah

I've lost count of the number of times I've typed //TODO or //HACK in my code, for reference, when I'm done

question_asker

hahaha

Khale_Kitha

9:07 PM

Examples...

EVERY VARIABLE, in EVERY CLASS, is public in the C++

And I see things like....

humn

look who's sharing worksheets now ^^^^^^

question_asker

god

Khale_Kitha

  //TODO: Fix this terrible access method
  scheduler.mGenerator.mList = scheduler.mGenerator.mNarrowList;

Chris Cudmore

Is it possible to just compile the C++ into CLR and then decompile into C#?

Khale_Kitha

No, because of this...

question_asker

9:09 PM

I'd think you were looking at my code ("change these awful names") if I actually had ever done any coding that anyone else got to see

Khale_Kitha

humn

you showed us your function/variable name generator, q_a, no acronyms

Chris Cudmore

386! FTW!

Khale_Kitha

In fact, my current task is that I'm taking portions of the program needed to test the newest version of the GPLK before I put it into my replacement program

(which is needing about 70% of the code)

Because the DLL used in the C++ program is the one from 1996

Mine is from March.

....Of this year..

GLPK doesn't offer a DLL older than 2009

Chris Cudmore

geez.

Khale_Kitha

9:12 PM

And there's a summation of my day.

Hahahaha

And apparently Borland doesn't like conditional breakpoints, FYI.

question_asker

that sounds like a completely-different-paradigm version of my day yesterday

Khale_Kitha

I took a 1 second line and put it conditional in .NET

It took 10 seconds to run.

I gave up, on the borland side, after 30 minutes.

lol q_a

question_asker

unrelated: this question just re-popped up, and it drove me nuts when it was first posted and still does puzzling.stackexchange.com/questions/26007/…

Khale_Kitha

Odd

question_asker

I see how the accepted answer works, but I feel like... the accepted answer isn't necessitated by the question?

shrug emoticon

Khale_Kitha

9:15 PM

It appears contradictory, looking at it

question_asker

but my brain shuts off on these "...but that makes it true, which would then make it false, making it true in the process, which in turn..." type puzzles

Khale_Kitha

hehe

question_asker

I guess what I'm saying is that I'm intellectually lazy enough to take the second option, because I'd definitely get more than $10

Khale_Kitha

Sorry, I had to stop looking at it, already, to try and figure this out

humn

guess you won't like the infinite philosophers puzzle, q_a, if it ever makes it to that evening

question_asker

9:19 PM

I wonder how much a decent set of computer speakers would cost

humn

you're not making backups, q_a? onooo

question_asker

I have money left over from my bonus, and I am avoiding using it to buy anything because then I won't have it anymore, but I know that I need: a) a backup drive, b) either speakers or headphones for my music-making computer, c) maybe other stuff, dunno

Khale_Kitha

pcgamer.com/…

Funny, since people are still developing using that AWFUL codec.

question_asker

oh wow

I wonder if my laptop has quicktime on it

Khale_Kitha

It's pretty likely

depending on usage, and age, of course

question_asker

9:24 PM

I spent time last weekend worrying about whether I had that recent flash vulnerability

but then when I checked, I realized I hadn't had the affected version of flash in a long time

Khale_Kitha

Meanwhile, people post binary of .exe files on this website, and other people run it =D

question_asker

yeah

humn

when you have some spare time, K_K, you can write spillover mathjax

Khale_Kitha

lol

humn

(gotta admit, i've been walking asleep after those messages a couple of hours ago, but..) i don't see why that puzzle isn't considered logic

27

Q: Which offer is better?

You are to make a statement. Of these two offers you have to choose one; which one is more profitable to you, and why? If the statement is true, you get exactly 10 dollars. If the statement is false, you get either less than or more than 10 dollars but not exactly 10. Regardless of whether the...

liars

it boils down to trues and falses, whether interesting or not (also gotta admit to finding them interesting but can certainly see otherwise)

Khale_Kitha

9:29 PM

I guess it's because the true and falseness of it depends on the reward offerred....But I don't completely understand it, yet.

The answer seems to be: "It looks like there's an answer, somewhere."

humn

i enjoy the way it's like a laser where the bounces have to line up in order to escape, figuratively speaking

Khale_Kitha

hehe

I don't really think there is an answer

In both cases, there's a situation where you get "more than $10"

However, for most profitable - no idea, because there's no limiter on the amount.

humn

the amount is not set ahead of time

Khale_Kitha

Right

I mean even if you state: "I get 1 trillion dollars"

humn

huh, maybe i'm assuming some unstated rules

Khale_Kitha

9:34 PM

For the second option, you get "more than 10 dollars"

...could be 11, could be 23894789345

f" answers:

"The reward for making this statement is less than [insert large value here] dollars, but not exactly 10".

If you get 10 dollars, that makes your statement false, so you shouldn't have gotten 10 dollars.
If you get less than [large value] dollars but not 10, that makes your statement true, so you should have gotten 10 dollars.
So the only way for the offer to be fulfilled correctly is if you get at least [large value] dollars.

from picking the first options

humn

what if there were a rule that the reward will be the minimal amount that is logically consistent

Khale_Kitha

The problem is..

Regardless of what value amount you say there...

I guess here's the only reason why f"'s answer is true.

No, my original idea stands.

If you make that statement..

And they give you $11

The logic is sound.

There's no way to determine which is more profitable.

humn

even with the rule i suggested? i'm not completely sure at the moment

Khale_Kitha

I hadn't read that yet - jsut following the rules for the post

humn

the reward for 2 would be at most $ 10.01

Khale_Kitha

9:39 PM

Yeah, but that qualifier definitely breaks the entire point, I tihnk

humn

would certainly take the fun out of it

but otherwise you're beginning to convince me that there's no unambiguous solution

Khale_Kitha

Actually, I misread what he said, so it might be right

He said less than amount, not greater than

humn

because there's no limit to what 2 could be

Khale_Kitha

In which case, yes, it does work.

Because...

In case 2, regardless of what you say, you will get an arbitrary amount, similar to if your rule was in place. Consider $10.01.

In case 1, however...

If you use what f" stated, then:
"The reward for making this statement is less than $100 dollars, but not exactly 10".

Means that you cannot get less than $100

Otherwise, it would be true, and you would get 10, which would make it false.

So the only way to qualify would be an amount greater than x

humn

oh i agree that you can guarantee any specific amount with choice 1

Khale_Kitha

9:42 PM

Took a while to wrap my head aroud that

Of course, the problem lies in that...

If I said the same thing, or anything, for statement 2

I could get $101

...just because.

humn

because we love you

Khale_Kitha

♥

humn

looks like a v with mouseketeer ears (i hope you recognize the "because we love you" from that too, even if it's true otherwise)

Khale_Kitha

lol

Will

That makes me think of

humn

9:45 PM

awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

rodent love

Khale_Kitha

haha

Meh, I'm going home.

Picks up toys

humn

enjoy!

Will

I mean, yes, Rodentia is my favorite order.

Khale_Kitha

OrderBy(Rodentia)

humn

is that a rodent on your profile? my name was "rat" decades before i became human

Will

9:48 PM

I asked my friend to draw me a hamster pup, as in a young hamster, but she was a smartass, and drew, well...

humn

well? Well? Will? or are you saying that the picture we see is what she drew?

Khale_Kitha

I leave you with this

humn

(and welcome back, K_K, how was home?)

Khale_Kitha

(which I could watch, all day)

Ozzy the adorable desk weasel.

►

humn

sugar rush

Will

9:50 PM

Yes, the picture you see is what she drew.

humn

very cool! instantly recognized it as a golden gopher with a night job

as a stagehand

Will

sure...

humn

(sorry, i've been falling azzleep for a couple of hours and basically watching others do the typing)

[better continue later]

question_asker

oh wow

78 in the tab title when I got back

Will

I'm just... puzzled by "golden gopher," which is... not an animal.

question_asker

9:57 PM

maybe it's the award they win

for being really good at being gophers

digging a lot of holes or whatever

a lot better than "the golden hole"

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