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9:00 PM

Hey @SaintWacko that is a greatly stated question! good luck

@Brian Thanks!

I don't even play the game and I'm interested in finding out!

@MarkTrapp wut

@Brian There's got to be some way the game determines that dwarves can ask for adamantine and iridium, but I can't for the life of me figure it out

Invader Skoodge

@SaintWacko Is DF open source?

9:03 PM

@InvaderSkoodge No, but most everything in the game is determined by the raws, which are plaintext

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@Aarthi Back in The Day, heresies were named after the person or people who perpetrated it, not the topic. e.g., the Albigensian heresy was done by the Albigenses.

oh

TIL.

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And clearly there is some way to modify which materials can be requested, as the creator of the Masterwork mod added iridium to the list

@Lazers It's probably STOCKPILE_THREAD_METAL, DEEP_SPECIAL or WAFERS. Try removing those from the copy of the raw files in the save game folder, one at a time. :)

Invader Skoodge

9:05 PM

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... in inorganic_mineral.txt

@MarkTrapp dooooooooooork

@Aarthi You say that like it's a BAD thing.

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@Aarthi w/e when the revolution comes and they ask how to name heresies as a pre-condition for membership, we'll see who's the dork!

uh, I got a "Restoring session" message followed by much stuttering

Did somebody try to join my BL2 game?

9:07 PM

@MarkTrapp WELL NOW I KNOW TOO NEENER

@fbueckert :D

@badp You know too much, I was coming to silence you o_o. But in reality, wasn't me.

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@Aarthi Also

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Actually, haberdashery is for ribbons. Millinery is hats. /pedantic :P — Aarthi 27 mins ago

what

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You can't sit here calling me a dork when you know that

9:08 PM

@MarkTrapp i read regency romances

it's par for the course knowledge. women in those books are always going to one or the other to buy ribbons or hats

@InvaderSkoodge That brings up a good point; green means go, and red means stop. What does flaming traffic light mean?

Invader Skoodge

@fbueckert I got pretty good at driving with all dark traffic lights after the hurricane.

Treat every intersection as a stop sign is fun!

@InvaderSkoodge That sounds a little dangerous.

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@Aarthi Yeah, yeah, a likely story!

If more because each light is a four-way stop instead of lights.

9:10 PM

@MarkTrapp GO READ ONE AND FIND OUT

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Four-way stops are fine if everyone understands how a four-way stop works.

If not everyone understands, however, then it is a death trap.

@InvaderSkoodge Yeah, that's the problem.

@InvaderSkoodge surprisingly few do, which is SUPER weird to me

@Aarthi Most people's default action for dead lights is, "No lights! Score!" vrooom

@fbueckert those people suck

Invader Skoodge

9:11 PM

We also had a lot of intersections coned off so you could only go certain ways and that alleviated the possibility of accidents too.

When it really should be, "No lights? Oh, boy. I better stop, just in case."

Invader Skoodge

For example, to get home, I had to turn right, then go through a parking lot to get back on the road I wanted to be on.

@TimStone Silence me? Tell me BL2 doesn't have friendly fire on by default

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@fbueckert Portland enforces that by sticking an island in the middle of many (most?) four-way stops. You don't stop, you flip your car

@InvaderSkoodge I ran into someone today that apparently didn't know how a lighted intersection worked, because they were totally oblivious to the whole "red" = "stop, don't enter the intersection" thing.

9:12 PM

@MarkTrapp Those aren't intersections; those are roundabouts.

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@fbueckert No, it's not a roundabout. We have on of those too

@MarkTrapp Can't be a big island, then.

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Enough to prevent you from blowing the stop sign

Personally, I'd just throw giant speedbumps right after the stop sign.

Invader Skoodge

They're called circles, not roundabouts.

9:13 PM

Nothing like tearing your car into itty bitty bits to drive the point home.

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@fbueckert In Tennessee, I've seen rumble strips on four-way stops

@MartinSojka I looked in there, but what part of the entry says it can be requested?

@badp I think it actually does, doesn't it? I'd check, but I'm trying to be productive today.

A roundabout is a type of circular intersection or junction in which road traffic is slowed and flows almost continuously in one direction around a central island to several exits onto the various intersecting roads. In a modern roundabout, entering traffic must always yield to traffic already in the circle, and roundabouts have additional restrictions on the junction layout to give high safety. Elimination of the opportunity for the most deadly crashes at intersections (T-bone or perpendicular crashes), is the greatest asset of the intersection design. Pedestrians are routed away from ...

I even tried deleting all the tags associated with iridium, but it was still requested

9:13 PM

Wikipedia disagrees with you!

@TimStone Err. Well, not exactly that, but I know what I meant.

@SaintWacko None; it's very likely a side-effect of Adamantine being the only material with those tags in the default raws.

@MarkTrapp Can't say I've seen those

Then again, rumble strips have limited utility when there's three feet of snow on the ground.

@fbueckert maps.google.com/…

@MartinSojka Well there had to have been some way the Masterwork dev allowed them to request iridium as well

9:14 PM

@SaintWacko Actually, I think I have a better idea.

@TimStone That's the most confusing roundabout ever!

@MartinSojka Oh?

@fbueckert Yeah, someone must have really, really despised motorists.

Forbidding Iridium didn't work

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@TimStone Why are there stops in the middle of it? That defeats the whole purpose!

9:16 PM

I love winter driving in Canada; first snowfall shows that everyone forgets how to drive properly when there's snow on the ground.

We get so many accidents.

@TimStone what the -- that's awful.

@MarkTrapp It's sophisticated, like the English. Or something.

@fbueckert you know, I just read that the local authorities here are now actually against speed bumps because they say they increase the noise and the pollution from the road

@Oak From everybody ignoring them and bottoming out their cars?

@fbueckert probably :)

9:18 PM

@Oak Sounds like they're doing their jobs. :P

Or maybe they just force not only lower speed but driving in a lower gear, which is indeed more noisy and more polluting

@Oak The point of speed bumps is for people to slow down.

If they're there, presumably there's something around where people aren't supposed to be driving so fast.

@fbueckert the question is, what other ways are there for doing the same?

Like those rumble strips

@Oak Rumble strips are just noisy.

Or roundabouts/circles/whatever

9:19 PM

Most speed bumps I know of are in parking lots.

If people miss a giant red sign, noise from their tires isn't going to slow them down.

@fbueckert hmm, I guess it depends a lot on the environment, then. We have a lot of speed bumps in residential streets here, and on the other hand we have a lot less stop signs

But there's a lot of respect for stop signs

@Oak I also have to contend with glare ice and craptons of snow for half a year. :)

Around here they have some obstructions they put along the side of the road at intervals in neighbourhoods to encourage you to slow down so that you don't veer into oncoming traffic (I guess, anyway), which I don't really feel like they fully thought out.

I've slid right through an intersection once; couldn't stop due to the ice.

@fbueckert that is not a problem here :)

9:22 PM

@Oak Count yourself lucky.

Man, I never drove through snow or ice, sounds terrifying

@fbueckert you're lucky its just snow that brings out the crappy drivers, down here its slight sprinkles of rain

But it is sort of fun pulling donuts in a giant parking lot.

@Brian You don't live in Canada, do you?

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@fbueckert Yeah, I have been in the ditch twice, and slid through a couple intersections

@AshleyNunn We had a strange ice storm in May, somewhere back around 2000.

9:23 PM

@fbueckert I live in Bay Area CA

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Once I hung sideways in a car held only by my seatbelt and a nice man who crawled in to prop me up for a half hour or so until the firemen came because I couldn't get the belt undone post crash

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@fbueckert Okay, yeah, I vaguely recall that

snow would kill people here so many bad drivers :(

@AshleyNunn Holy shit!

...Was he good looking?

The roads were strange; tire tracks were completely dry, but you had large hard ice chunks in the middle of the road.

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9:24 PM

@GnomeSlice No, he was an older farmer who lived near where we ditched the car

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He was nice though.

So if you deviated from the ruts, say goodbye to your traction.

Happily, the ditches were full of snow, so I plowed right in, and took no damage.

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@fbueckert Yeah, that's always the tricky bit especially when the ruts are one lane in the middle, and there is oncoming traffic

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that is always fun

I swear, sporadic rocket file sounds so much better than hurricanes and snow storms. I count myself lucky!

9:25 PM

@Oak I just got a foot of snow!

How did a hurricane get so much north, anyway? I thought those were tropical creatures

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@fbueckert We got snow this morning, but it didn't really stick afaik

I got a foot of cold weather and sunshine :(

@Brian Define cold.

@AshleyNunn Lucky you.

50s :(

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9:26 PM

@Brian What's that in Canadian?

uhh 10 in canadian

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@fbueckert Eh, it will come yet, as it does. Never as impressive or as cold as yours, but still, snowmen and tobogganing :)

assuming you mean celsius

@Brian THAT'S not cold.

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@Brian That's t-shirt weather

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9:26 PM

@Brian yeah

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Oh dear, 33 tokens. This is going to take a while

@AshleyNunn no it's not... brrrr

It's currently -5C here.

Which is roughly...28ish?

Considering it was 90/33 a week ago, its cold

Wunderground says 12.4 C

9:27 PM

@Oak It's above zero. It's T-shirt weather.

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Here it's 0, feels like -4

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so close to the same

Also @fbueckert is just showing off :P

According to the weather, the high today is/was 5c

@badp Hey, I deal with -40 on an annual basis.

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9:28 PM

@fbueckert I usually wait til +10

I tell the rest of you pansies to suck it up.

@fbueckert That still doesn't make this t-shirt weather

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@fbueckert Hey, I am not a pansy!

@TimStone reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/134r4j/i_will_never_drive_in_the_uk

@badp Tell me that after months of -40.

9:28 PM

That's 41 Fahrenheit, apparently.

@badp Heh, I didn't realise that you had those to assign for a while, so I had quite the stockpile when I finally figured it out.

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I love how cold is relative. :)

Anything above zero is T-Shirt weather.

@AshleyNunn Canadians exempt from insult, of course.

You're all psychos. It's like 22c here and I feel the need for socks (the floor's colder!)

@fbueckert Also, since it must be roughly a dozen people tops in the world who get to "enjoy" -40 °C and chances are you know each other, tell Bard I say hi when you see him again next spring.

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9:29 PM

@Oak I hate socks.

@badp Fun fact: -40C = -40F.

I'd like to see you canadians deal with 37c and then give me crap for not handling 10c

So I don't need to be corrected about C or F, good

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@Ullallulloo I watched the video for that and I just was like....what. How does that.

@Brian We stay inside in air conditioning.

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9:30 PM

@Brian We had that this summer for a bit. I just went swimming.

We can't handle super hot weather.

@Brian It's much easier to deal with 37c than it is to deal with snow

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@fbueckert Speak for yourself. I haven't ever had airconditioning

@Brian We get over 40c a few times every year, usually.

(or extreme cold I suppose)

9:31 PM

@AshleyNunn Did you notice the cars driving off the sidewalks? Somehow I imagine that probably ends up actually happening. >_>

@AshleyNunn I have five computers in the house. Air conditioning is sort of required to not bake in our skin.

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@TimStone Yeah, I saw that, and I was ike....I bet that is based on reality

:D

@badp I'm with you

@Oak Canadians are their own special breed of crazy.

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9:32 PM

@fbueckert We have two desktops, two laptops, assorted consoles, and such, and managed . It wasn't comfy

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but doable

@AshleyNunn Moving air will help tons.

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@fbueckert Yeah, we had a few fans going :)

@badp Surprisingly, I'd rather deal with cold than extreme heat.

There's only so much layering you can remove, while if it's too cold, you can just add more layers.

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@fbueckert That.

9:33 PM

@fbueckert Not surprising at all. If you didn't want to deal with -40C you'd have moved.

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I cant be naked everywhere, that just gets awkward.

@fbueckert You know all those jokes about pants and the not wearing thereof....... :P

@Ullallulloo And people in Winnipeg have been bitching about our new roundabouts. :/

@badp Yeah...no.

9:34 PM

@AshleyNunn When everybody suffers with you the awkward decreases noticeably!

Those guys had the right idea.

@TrentHawkins Winnipeg drivers are crazy.

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@badp Not if I am the only naked one

Oh, and for all you non-Canadians, Polar Bear swims are a thing.

Look it up.

@fbueckert I'm Canadian and I didn't even know that.

9:35 PM

@AshleyNunn Well, being "practically" naked is part of the whole point of going to the beach

Although it doesn't surprise me.

Roundabout (song)

| Format = 7" vinyl | Recorded = 1971 | Genre = Progressive rock, funk rock, hard rock | Length = 8:29 (full-length version)4:54 (TM Gold Disc edit)3:27 (single edit)8:33 (Early Rough Mix) | Label = Atlantic | Writer = Jon Anderson, Steve Howe | Producer = Yes, Eddie Offord | Certification = | Last single = "I've Seen All Good People: Your Move"(1971) | This single = "Roundabout"(1972) | Next single = "America"(1972) | Misc = }} "Roundabout" is the opening track for the 1971 album Fragile by British progressive ...

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@fbueckert I have always wanted to do one.

The other part is swimming in colder, refreshing water

@AshleyNunn Not I. I can't swim.

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9:36 PM

Yeah, but I am not naked at the beach, and I wear a one piece with shorts, so I dont how much.

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@fbueckert Really?

@fbueckert It doesn't take much to learn...

@badp Water phobia. Fun stuff.

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My parents live 5 min from a lake, so I learned to swim pretty early.

One of the few things to completely bypass the rational part of my brain.

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9:37 PM

@fbueckert Fair enough, that I won't argue with.

I took swimming lessons for a number of years when I was younger.

I learned how to float in high school.

I kept sinking, though, if I didn't kick my feet.

Something about 0% body fat.

@GnomeSlice That's horrible... who the hell videotapes their screen to post a video on youtube?!

@fbueckert Inflate your lungs first.

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@fbueckert Yeah, I am like.....45% fat, so I float.

9:38 PM

@TrentHawkins ...Yeah, some people. It's the best one I could find though.

@GnomeSlice Hard to do when every bit of processing power is devoted to not panicking.

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In fact, if I am in the "rescue postion" (knees tucked to chest with arms wrapped around them) I am in more trouble, because my ass will naturally try to float, and I will flip over and choke on water.

@fbueckert Yeah, it would be.

I'm phobic of insects and spiders and creepy-crawly things.

Only thing worse than having a friend photographer that wont take photos for free is having a friend personal trainer that wont give advice for free

Debilitatingly so.

9:39 PM

what is this world coming to, i help people with computers for free

I can't even float. =/

@Brian Think you missed a word there.

@Ullallulloo Everyone floats.

Take a big breath and you'll float.

@Brian Yeah, don't do that. People take SUCH advantage of you.

@GnomeSlice thanks

@GnomeSlice This is something that I never considered until like last week.

I assumed that air was just for breathing, not floating.

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9:40 PM

@Ullallulloo Floating is hard. Took me a long time to learn, and floating on my back still makes me nervous, even though I can swim relatively well

@Ullallulloo Heh.

If you breath out all of your air, you'll sink like a stone.

I'll have to try that whenever I visit a body of water again.

Some friends did teach me to swim somewhat anyway a couple of years ago.

With moderate success.

@fbueckert need to start charging them contracting wages

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@GnomeSlice Not true - then I would sink every time I breathed out, and I dont

@AshleyNunn You don't forcibly expel as much air as you can, though.

Some people float anyway, I think.

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9:43 PM

I really like swimmimng, because then I feel less like a hippo - the lack of gravity and freedom of movement are really awesome.

@GnomeSlice muscle weighs more than fat, but fat is more floaty

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@GnomeSlice I have too much fat to sink.

@AshleyNunn Lol, that doesn't work for my dad.

so if you're under a certain %bodyfat thats true, but if not, it isnt

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(This is not me being down on myself, its just true)

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9:43 PM

I have over 45% fat, afaik so I float like a really floaty thing

I heard that there's only one animal completely incapable of swimming, and that's pigs, and that's because they'd just cut their throats with their own claws

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(I am not tiny.)

@AshleyNunn 'like a really floaty thing' nice comparison, truly descriptive. :P

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@GnomeSlice Thanks, I came up with that all on my own!

@badp Most insects can't swim.

Well, a bunch of them can't, anyway.

9:45 PM

Someone should make a graph of topics covered per day in bridge

@Brian I don't think any of us have enough spare time for that. Well, I probably do, but I don't have the skills.

need to come up with a bot that will take @topic commands then it wouldnt be too hard i imagine

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I really wanna go swimming now.

13 mins ago, by fbueckert

Oh, and for all you non-Canadians, Polar Bear swims are a thing.

Note: That sounds like a horrible idea.

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@Ullallulloo They're awesome and one day I will do one and it will be glorious

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9:50 PM

Polar bear plunge

A polar bear plunge is an event held during the winter where participants enter a body of water despite the low temperature. In the United States polar bear plunges are usually held to raise money for a charitable organization, while in Canada they are associated with New Year's Day. Canada In Canada "Polar Bear Swims", "Plunges", or "Dips", are a New Years Day tradition in numerous communities across the country. Vancouver, BC's annual Polar Bear Swim Club has been active since 1920 and typically has 1,000 to 2,000 registered participants, with a record 2,128 registrants plunging into...

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for anyone who doesn't know what they are

cuts off right when the explanation happens

Relevant to swimming in ice water: video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8521401637486973500

Skip to around 7:00

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@Brian basically, jump into a lake or some such in the winter when it is cold

Actually, skip to exactly 7:00

9:53 PM

Ah lame, thought it involved swimming with polar bears, -1 coolness for the great north

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@Brian The polar bears would likely kill you.

Oh my god, that video is horrible.

That said I can understand some water phobia in @fbueckert given that it takes much less than -40 °C to make a short bath in the water deadly

@AshleyNunn incentive to swim faster!

I can't even imagine how horrible that would be.

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9:55 PM

@badp Yeah, that is one of the reasons I havent done it, I am not convinced it is safe

Nevermind -40 must be way beyond the point of freezing of water no matter how salty etc

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I want to do it for the street cred, as it were, but I have a fear of dying

@badp Try playing underwater hockey.

@AshleyNunn It's safe, as long as you have people to help you get out. Watch the video I linked and skip to 7:00.

@fbueckert Underwater hockey is played in a pool.

9:56 PM

They had to do it as practice for surviving the north pole.

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@GnomeSlice Yeah, but in these events, you might not due to the sheer volume of participants

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It also plays with my fear of crowds

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which is a huge fear

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I cant stand crowds

@AshleyNunn He's also on a line, I expect polar swim people are as well, though I don't know

Jesus Christ, this video is terrifying. That must be absolutely horrible.

That episode was pretty good though.

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9:59 PM

@GnomeSlice Generally, not, they just sorta run in run out

@AshleyNunn eeeeergh

No thanks.

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@GnomeSlice Yeah, and there is a whole bunch of people going at once and augh

I find most water cold already, even when other people say it's fine for swimming.

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