The Nineteenth Byte

4:12 AM

whats a good name for a 2d programming language that doesn't have a memory model separate from the grid that it is on and relies heavily on source code manipulation and shifting rows and columns (think labyrinth's commands that do that)

MD XF

@MistahFiggins YetAnother2dLanguage? :P

Anonymous

5 hours ago, by Mego

Alright 14 hours is a ridiculous amount of time for a flag to go unhandled

Anonymous

19 and counting...

Mistah Figgins

@MDXF :P yeah, I like 2d langs. almost all of my answers are in Befunge 93/98

MD XF

@MistahFiggins That's pretty impressive. I've got one quine in Befunge-98, it was only partially my work

I usually stick to C, ASM and BASIC

The old mainstream languages are the best

Mistah Figgins

4:15 AM

nice

I know some TI-84+ BASIC, whatever it's called

MD XF

Nice

I typically stick with GW-BASIC and BASICA (from MS-DOS 1.01) but calculators are fun

Also Applesoft BASIC and Apple ][

If you couldn't tell, I like antique computers :P

Mistah Figgins

although on a calculator, you're really trying to optimize vs golf

drawing things takes so long if you do it the wrong way

MD XF

That's what emulators are for

Mistah Figgins

yep

MD XF

pcjs.com is a lifesaver for all things DOS/BASIC

* pcjs.org

It even has an emulator for my first computer, the OSI Challenger 1P

A lot has changed since those days....

Helka Homba

4:20 AM

Anyone know what a "retina" version of a font means? Like in Android Studio I see options for Fira Code Light/Medium/Retina. I guess the retina is crisper on some displays?

Dennis

@Mego 14 is actually pretty close to average.

Anonymous

@Dennis That seems really high

MD XF

I swear the hardest part of writing quines is forgetting to update the code in the string literal

Anonymous

@HelkaHomba Retina displays are a marketing term by Apple for displays with more than 300 DPI

Anonymous

They use it to mean that the average person wouldn't be able to discern the individual pixels from a normal viewing distance

Dennis

4:24 AM

@Mego Is it? Flags on meta are almost never urgent, so I don't check for them that often.

The average on main is a lot lower.

Anonymous

While they might not be urgent, it seems like a team of effectively 3 mods should be able to check and handle meta flags more than once a day.

Helka Homba

Long flag times only seem a real issue for truly horrendous stuff (link links to viruses). A few obsolete comments is fine imo

user165474

Dennis, Doorknob, Alex, Martin... why 3?

Anonymous

@HyperNeutrino Alex isn't very active (at least, he doesn't appear active from the public viewpoint).

user165474

ah ok

user165474

4:29 AM

Also Doorknob is the only one who doesn't have an English name username

Anonymous

He may be more active behind-the-scenes in moderation duties, but that doesn't seem likely to me

Helka Homba

@Mego How many customer support lines have you emailed that get back to you the same day? (and they are paid to do it)

user165474

May 5 at 15:54, by Mego

Spoiler alert: us adults have to work most days

Dennis

@Mego Moderation is more than just handling flags. The small amount of time I was able to dedicate to it today was better spent doing other things than deleting a non-answer on meta.

Anonymous

@HelkaHomba Usually all of them but Dell :P

user165474

4:30 AM

s/deleting a non-answer on meta/being on PPCG/ to describe my life

Anonymous

@Dennis I suppose that's fair. Sorry for overreacting.

Mistah Figgins

still need a name ;) I would pick labyrinth a la shifting walls, but that's taken

Dennis

@Mego No worries. But if there's something that requires our immediate attention, don't hesitate to ping in chat. There are no notifications for flags unless you're already on the site. (They don't even show up in the mobile UI, so I was forced to "request desktop".)

Anonymous

@Dennis So really blame-mobile :P

Dennis

That too, yes.

I really wish the flag counter/page for main and meta was combined though.

ais523

4:36 AM

the review pages should probably be combined too

although I guess some people might feel confident reviewing on main but not meta, or vice versa

Anonymous

@Dennis That's kinda... Whatever the opposite of preaching to the choir is :P

ais523

Stack Exchange gives very little guidance for regular users on how moderation works

there are explanations but I strongly suspect they're wrong/misleading, especially on PPCG

Helka Homba

@MistahFiggins Sourcerer's Lab[yrinth] (the u is intended)

Mistah Figgins

I like the pun, but it's a bit long. what do you think about lab rat(s) or something

I like yours better actually

or something like "amnesia" because it has no separate memory model

maybe "labnesia"

Dennis

4:53 AM

Lambnesia?

Mistah Figgins

Is that a thing? if so, what does it mean?

Dennis

Sounds more similar to amnesia in my head. Also lamb puns.

(Just forget I said anything. :P)

Mistah Figgins

i was thinking lab puns

not sure how people here feel about lambs (i.e. downgoat)

yeah, imma go with labnesia

ASCII-only

@MistahFiggins 2D SMBF

Mistah Figgins

or damnesia, but that's slightly sweary

@ASCII-only eh, it's not really like SMBF

ASCII-only

4:58 AM

@HelkaHomba Sauce labs? :P

Wheat Wizard

@Phoenix I've added the explanation now

I don't know if it helps, its kind of just a big mess

Mistah Figgins

I agree with Stephan on the visual thing, the boxes you have there are cool

Phoenix

@WheatWizard ty!

ais523

5:23 AM

oh wow, I thought PPCG rules allowed output to stderr, but the answer is at +44/-25, thus less than ⅔ upvoted

Phoenix

Still allowed though.

Dennis

There's a weird conflict there. Displaying on the screen is a valid output method, and STDERR is displayed on the screen.

Phoenix

I think that there was some confusion that if it was allowed StdErr output would have to be counted, judging by the comment at the bottom about PHP.

CMC: Given a ;# program, determine if it is optimally golfed.

ais523

5:40 AM

@Phoenix not by the rules of the post itself, although I'm not sure I agree with them

that's not twice as many upvotes as downvotes

that said, despite that, I would assume stderr output to be valid

(the context is that someone new to PPCG was talking to me about the stderr rules, and was confused as to how it worked; it's no wonder why)

Phoenix

Like, if you did a poll, I don't think you'd find really anyone to disagree nowadays.

ais523

also I agree that some people are likely to have downvoted the post because they thought it'd mean stderr output invalidates stdout output

feersum

I just had the greatest idea ever

We could require all submissions to be programs

And have a strictly defined I/O format.

Phoenix

._.

Why

feersum

Never mind, I realized that's a bad idea since meta debates are the greatest part of hte site.

Phoenix

5:50 AM

Did the fact that it's inherently a godawful idea occur.

feersum

So it's actually a good idea, unless people agree on it.

Phoenix

It goes against everything we've ever decided.

feersum

Indeed, we have always decided in favor of more epicycles.

Phoenix

Poor, poor Java

Why must you murder it so.

ais523

one model I think might work would be to approve languages, and give them each an approved wrapper which does input and output from a standard format (probably JSON), also have a fair byte counter for each which takes the language design into account

Phoenix

5:57 AM

BTW, is reading from ARGF valid? I don't remember.

'cause if so I can golf a byte off my ruby answer.

Wheat Wizard

I always spend forever writing a super detailed explanation, only to realize there is a much better approach to the question, causing me to delete my explanation right when I've finished it.

Phoenix

:P

Golfed your Klein answer, have you?

Wheat Wizard

Yeah :p

Anonymous

@Dennis I've been thinking about that comment and ais523's comment. Would you and/or the other PPCG mods be willing to talk about your experiences moderating PPCG? I think it would be really interesting for us non-mods who don't know much about what goes on behind the diamond curtain. Obviously you couldn't go into specific details because of the moderator agreement, but "A Day in the Life of a PPCG Mod" would be neat.

Phoenix

At least you figured out how it works.

Wheat Wizard

6:02 AM

Yeah knowing how it works was what allowed me to golf it.

Its a paradox of sorts.

If I know how my code works I haven't golfed it enough.

Phoenix

I think Mego is subtly trying to become a mod.

Anonymous

@Phoenix Not really. I mean, it's no secret that being a moderator for PPCG is something I'd be interested in (hell, I ran in the election). But I'm not trying to push to get another election so I can be elected, if that's what you're thinking.

Anonymous

I think "A Day in the Life of a PPCG Mod" would be beneficial and educational for us non-mods.

Phoenix

You keep asking Dennis if the mod team needs more help, etc.

It's kinda funny.

Anonymous

@Phoenix I asked that once, during a discussion about Alex not really being around anymore and flags taking a long time to be handled. I wasn't the only one with concerns.

Anonymous

6:09 AM

I'm not Frank Underwood. I'm much more direct and not as manipulative.

Phoenix

I'm not accusing you of doing anything wrong.

Anonymous

Oh, I know. I'm just making sure that there's no misunderstandings going on.

Anonymous

Besides, penguins can do no wrong :P

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DJMcMayhem

6:22 AM

I think if there was a PPCG election, I'm almost positive that either mego or I would win

Wheat Wizard

@DJMcMayhem Did you want to talk topology? I'm looking for an excuse not to sleep.

ATaco

No taco?

Anonymous

@DJMcMayhem I would like to believe that, but I'm not a betting ~~man~~ penguin.

DJMcMayhem

@WheatWizard Ehhh, sure why not. It's late, I'm tired, and I have an early morning tomorrow, not topology sounds fun

Wheat Wizard

Ok I thought of a better way to imagine fundamental polygons.

Helka Homba

6:30 AM

Do we need new mods? Alex isn't around but I haven't heard the other mods complain

Wheat Wizard

Imagine you have a bunch of paper cutouts of your fundamental polygon, Make a grid by taping them together so that paired edges have the same color and direction. If you tile this infinitely you will get a representation of the surface.

DJMcMayhem

@WheatWizard So moving from general topology to klein, what would the ASCII grid for 100 look like?

Wheat Wizard

Thats a key I made earlier

 -->>--
|      |
^      v
|      v
|      |
 --<---

Thats the ASCII grid for 100

Anonymous

Has anyone else been having issues with the SE JS not loading (causing bugs like jumping to the top of the page when trying to expand comments, and not being able to vote)?

Qwerp-Derp

What's the circled plus operator on fractions called again?

Anonymous

6:45 AM

@Qwerp-Derp Huh? Circled plus operator is usually XOR, but I have no idea why or how it would be used with fractions. Could you give an example?

Qwerp-Derp

1/3 (circled plus) 2/5 = (1+3)/(2+5) = 4/7

I forgot what it was called, it's got a name

Wheat Wizard

@DJMcMayhem I underestimated how tired I was. I'm going to take a break to sleep. Feel free to ping me in a couple hours.

DJMcMayhem

Same here lol

Anonymous

@Qwerp-Derp This is the first time I have ever heard of such an operator

Qwerp-Derp

Oh, I remember what it's called, it's Farey addition

Anonymous

6:51 AM

Farey addition is a/b + c/d = (a+c)/(b+d)

Qwerp-Derp

Oh whoops

feersum

I'm guessing Farey didn't fare so well in grade school.

Qwerp-Derp

I accidentally messed something up, whoops

So, onto my question:

Is it possible for two fractions, $a$ and $b$, to have an equal average ($\frac{a+b}{2}$) and Farey sum ($a \oplus b$)?

Anonymous

I'm going to use caps to refer to the fractions

Anonymous

A := a/b, B := c/d

Qwerp-Derp

6:57 AM

The numerators and denominators of both $a$ and $b$ are integers

Anonymous

So you want to know if it's possible for (A+B)/2 = A ⊕ B (where ⊕ is the Farey addition operator)

Qwerp-Derp

@Mego Yup

In fact, would any list of fractions $a_1, a_2, a_3... a_n$ have the same average and Farey sum?

Anonymous

The arithmetic mean would be (ad+bc)/(2bd), and the Farey sum would be (a+c)/(b+d)

feersum

Is this operation multivalued? Can we choose any multiple of a,b we want?

Qwerp-Derp

Also, $a \ne b$

feersum

6:59 AM

Is this homework?

Qwerp-Derp

@feersum Nope

Anonymous

So the question boils down to: Is there a set of 4 integers a, b, c, d > 0 where ad+bc = a+c and 2bd = b+d

feersum

What is it then

Qwerp-Derp

I've had two tests, and I was wondering if the average score of the tests is equal to the amount of total right answers divided by the number of right questions...

Anonymous

The positive restriction is important - it's trivial with b = d = 0, but then you get division by 0

Qwerp-Derp

7:00 AM

So I've decided to extend the question a bit

Anonymous

The second equation is satisfied by b = d = 1

Anonymous

Which also satisfies the first equation

Qwerp-Derp

So the only way this works is if b and d are both equal to 1?

Anonymous

I believe so, yes

Qwerp-Derp

Well that's disappointing

Anonymous

7:08 AM

Welcome to math :)

Okx

7:39 AM

Whoa there, why is this challenge marked as a duplicate of a newer challenge?

Jan Dvorak

That is allowed

Okx

@JanDvorak Quoting from the text in the duplicate description, "This question has been asked before and already has an answer"

Jan Dvorak

FR to change the description then

Okx

Sorry, what does FR mean?

Anonymous

Feature Request

Anonymous

7:46 AM

@Okx The first clue that the description isn't helpful is that it says "question"

Anonymous

There's precedent for dupe-closing older challenges in favor of new ones:

Anonymous

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A: Should "Code the Huffman!" remain closed as a duplicate of a very old question?

TL;DR: They are duplicates. Close the old one. First, I'd like to clarify that I do think the questions are duplicates. I agree with Peter that a difference in the output format counts as a "minor modification" to existing answers, unless the output formatting is the core of the challenge (which...

Anonymous

Also other SE sites do it all the time

Okx

Gotta say, it's a bit weird

Anonymous

Not really. If the new question/challenge is better than the old one, why not close the old one?

Anonymous

7:50 AM

Our goal is to have the best version of each challenge. If we have an old challenge that's not great, there are two options: edit the old challenge, or post a new, better version. Major edits that change large parts of the challenge are frowned upon, so often it's better to just start from scratch and rewrite it entirely.

Anonymous

This meta answer of mine sums up my approach to dupe-voting pretty well, I think.

Alex K Chen

Daily PPCG ad (Day 3):

yesterday, by Alex K Chen

16 hours ago, by Hyper Neutrino

Looking for something better to do with the time that you're meant to be spending on homework? Check out this Maths.SE chat room for recreational Maths games!

Anonymous

That's approaching excessive promotion.

Alex K Chen

Okay, ~~sure deleting it~~ (can't delete), you can move it. Won't do again soon (within a week).

Luis Mendo

8:38 AM

@Dennis I see. It's an unfortunate side effect that the answers get deleted along with the challenge. But I understand it had to be done

Qwerp-Derp

Might need help at "la salle de français" again :P

Arjun

नमस्ते!

("Hello" in Hindi)

Adám

8:56 AM

@Arjun नमस्ते दुनिया!

Arjun

9:10 AM

@Adám :D

betseg

Hindi

("turkey" in Turkish)

Adám

@betseg Wow. Never knew that. It explains a lot.

betseg

@Adám Also AFAIK turkey is "peru" in Hindi (at least that's how it's pronounced)

TuxCopter

There is a polandball comic about that IIRC

Adám

@betseg In Hebrew a turkey is called "Hodu", which means India/Hindi.

betseg

9:18 AM

@TuxCopter everyone was eating Peru :D

@TuxCopter found it: i.imgur.com/LIRanZh.png

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9:57 AM

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

My [sub] strings are hiding! Introduction A while ago a lost SO user posted a question here and its now been deleted but I think it would make a good challenge so here it goes... Challenge Write a full program or function to check if a string contains a given sub-string. Sounds easy? Here's t...

LegionMammal978

10:09 AM

Odd how it feels like no time at all has passed between falling asleep and waking up

I just now have vague memories of a dream

monring btw

drobilc

Monring :)

Mayube

10:25 AM

mornin'

Shaggy

'Lo :)

totallyhuman

My most voted answer has been proven invalid

:/

Mayube

woo! 2CollIDE is done

betseg

G' noon!

Okx

10:46 AM

only in 14 minutes

Shaggy

@totallyhuman That sucks :(

ASCII-only

@Mayube pls link

Mayube

11:05 AM

@ASCII-only Here's the 2Col entry for output with same length as code

and yes the html/css is a straight rip of Beta-Decay's FourIDE for Fourier

at some point I'll write up some documentation for the language, but for now only I know how to use it

ASCII-only

11:25 AM

@Mayube :| output looks half as long to me

@Mayube looks at source code I know how to use it now

0/10 for hello world builtin

Rod

@Mayube Error while open the interpreter.js : SyntaxError: class is a reserved identifier interpreter.js:5:0

Mayube

@Rod wat

Rod

running on Firefox 38

Mayube

hmm, I only tested on chrome but it should work, 1 sec

ASCII-only

@Mayube pls don't use class for production code

Mayube

11:37 AM

ugh ffs javascript stop being retarded

totallyhuman

@Mayube that's kinda its job though

Mayube

@ASCII-only @Rod give it like 2 mins then Ctrl+F5 and it should work

ASCII-only

@Mayube I'm using a chromium browser so it runs fine :P

Mayube

looks like classes weren't supported in firefox until 45

Mayube

11:55 AM

@ASCII-only also, it's 17 bytes of input and 17 bytes of output

length of 2Col code is always 3n-1 where n is the number of lines. There are 6 lines, so 17 bytes. Output is a 1 followed by 16 zeroes (10^2^2^2^2)

there's a much shorter answer for that challenge that I'd already posted and forgot about though, which is simply =0

outputs 0 followed by a newline, 2 bytes

ASCII-only

@Mayube There are three lines

Mayube

@ASCII-only oh I linked completely the wrong code :P

That one returns true if the input is a triangle number, and false otherwise

@ASCII-only Here's the code I was trying to link

LegionMammal978

Any ideas for killing a few hours while I wait for a friend to wake up?

totallyhuman

write a brainfuck interpreter in brainfuck if haven't done so already

Mayube

Learn Braingolf :D

LegionMammal978

12:10 PM

wait nvm friend just woke up

ASCII-only

@LegionMammal978 :P

@LegionMammal978 Try to make Mathematica's syntax as similar to another language's as possible :P

Qwerp-Derp

How do you say "spare bedroom" in French?

Mayube

le spare bedroom

that's how french works, right?

Qwerp-Derp

@Mayube Comedy gold(!)

Dammit I'm on PPCG too much

@Mayube I haven't played CrossCode in a while, I've been caught up on schoolwork

Shaggy

@Qwerp-Derp bedroom le spare, apparently!

user165474

12:14 PM

@Shaggy 0/10 linking to closed challenges

totallyhuman

i still don't have that privilege, do i

Gábor Fekete

hi everyone!

Erik the Outgolfer

@Ilikemydog please settle on a name...

Gábor Fekete

why are some answers to the challenges deleted although they are shorter than the other answer in the same language?

Qwerp-Derp

What about a cops-and-robbers challenge where the cops have to design a Turing-complete language, and the robbers have to make a quine out of that?

totallyhuman

12:28 PM

o.o

user165474

@GáborFekete Do you have a specific example?

Qwerp-Derp

@ConorO'Brien is the Stacked interpreter finished?

user165474

Is this challenge meant to be protected?

Mayube

@Qwerp-Derp I've been busy with work and FFXIV, haven't touched it in months :/

Gábor Fekete

@HyperNeutrino yeah, codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/122602/55605 this one is deleted but it's shorter than the other solutions

user165474

12:36 PM

@GáborFekete Well hm. That's odd. It's valid for sure... I've voted to undelete it which may draw more attention to it as well.

Gábor Fekete

@HyperNeutrino I also don't see some comments on posts, just response comments are there. It's very strange...

user165474

@GáborFekete What do you mean you don't see some comments on posts?

ASCII-only

@GáborFekete They're either deleted or hidden (click show more)

Gábor Fekete

@ASCII-only Yeah I clicked on show more but I can only see that responses are there but the comments responded to are not (sorry, english isn't my main language, I hope you can understand it)

ASCII-only

@GáborFekete Hmm then they're probably deleted

Gábor Fekete

12:42 PM

@ASCII-only yeah but why? there is no reason for them to delete them as they are about the rules of the challenges

ASCII-only

I'm pretty sure they're usually deleted because the problem has been solved (e.g. maybe the post/rules have been corrected)

Gábor Fekete

@ASCII-only I still don't get it why that's a reasonable thing to do

Mayube

keeps the comments clean and uncluttered

ASCII-only

When your esolang needs a parser upgrade :|

Mayube

@ASCII-only so always?

ASCII-only

12:56 PM

@Mayube As in upgrade to different type of parser

Which requires porting your grammar and whatnot

rip

Mayube

braingolf's needed a significant parser overhaul since it was first made

it's the reason why it doesn't support nested loops and conditionals

ASCII-only

@Mayube 0/10 not significant overhaul

If it doesn't have a significant parser how can it get a significant overhaul :P

Mayube

woow I see how it is :(

ASCII-only

also btw you could use UGL's parser </shamelessselfpromotion>

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Q: Print invisible text

Given a string as input, output a number of whitespace characters (0x0A and 0x20) equal to the length of the string. For example, given the string Hello, World! your code would need to output exactly 13 whitespace characters and nothing else. These can be any mix of spaces and newlines. Your co...

New Sandboxed Posts

1:10 PM

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

21 = (1 + 3 + 5 + 7 + 9) - (1 + 3) Is this different enough from the original challenge? Background This is a sequel to my previous challenge, but this time with a slightly more interesting practical application (the factorization of the input). It is based on 1) the fact that any odd integ...

programmer5000

1:22 PM

@HyperNeutrino I think so, it has 2 spam answers by 2 low-rep users

user165474

@programmer5000 Okay. Thanks for the confirmation.

Mayube

1:52 PM

man people love these trivial challenges

Shaggy

@Mayube They're great when you only have a minute or 2 to spare.

Mayube

@Shaggy exactly, it also allows less complex languages like Braingolf, Brainf**k and 2Col to participate

quartata

@Riker nope

KuanHulio

does every golfing language have an online intepreter

Shaggy

@Mayube Not so great if you've that little time that you miss something vital in the requirements/spec and make a balls of it!

Adám

2:04 PM

@KuanHulio Not necessarily, but a lot are to be found here.

KuanHulio

You think only allowing languages in tio.run to be allowed to compete in fastest code challenge

@Adám

Adám

@KuanHulio I see the point that it would make it easier to compare timings, but isn't it a bit unfair to exclude a language just because it doesn't have a Linux interpreter or penalize it because it has to run in an emulator?

KuanHulio

but at the same time, running them on different things gets to be quite a hassle

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Q: Count the videos in a Youtube Playlist

Challenge Given a Youtube playlist, output the number of videos in it. I/O The playlist will be given as an URL; for example, https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_3jnZNPYn7qUatgDYBS5NShkfXoehSRC (this is a playlist a friend sent me to try to get me to listen to K-Pop because she's obsessed...

code-golf internet

user165474

feature-request Have feed bots check if someone's linked a challenge already before linking it into TNB to avoid double-posting and to avoid feed bots being ninja'd.

Adám

2:16 PM

@HyperNeutrino That would require them to actually be bots. Right now they are just dumb feeds.

user165474

Oh. True.

Adám

@HyperNeutrino An actually, I think we don't allow real bots on SE chat.

user165474

I believe that is the rule.

I like my dog

@EriktheOutgolfer If I could settle on a name, I would. But I've got an idea. I'll let you guys choose my new name! Please...

KuanHulio

John Wick

Christopher

2:17 PM

Only in America do you have a race that you run 2.5kM get a dozen doughnuts from Krispy Kreme and run back to the start.

user165474

@Ilikemydog "I am very indecisive"

user165474

sorry adam no idea what happened there

I like my dog

@HyperNeutrino maybe

user165474

Ooo how about ElectronNeutrino

user165474

@TauNeutrino already exists

user165474

2:19 PM

So does @HyperNeutrino

user165474

Then we need a MuonNeutrino

user165474

and a respective antineutrino for each type

user165474

Wait since when did I have 6000 network score

Christopher

Idk.

Erik the Outgolfer

@HyperNeutrino btw you just got an upvote on an answer of yours somewhere in the Stack Exchange network

I like my dog

2:20 PM

@PhiNotPi do you mean the "transpile ;# into your language" challenge?

PhiNotPi

in reference to what?

I like my dog

ther bounty?

PhiNotPi

@Ilikemydog yeah... it was a joke though since ;# can't solve the challenge

I like my dog

Just about to tell you that ;)

user165474

@EriktheOutgolfer I did?

user165474

2:22 PM

didn't show up for me

I like my dog

@HyperNeutrino don't argue!

user165474

:I

Erik the Outgolfer

yeah don't argue about potentially good stuff

Christopher

@EriktheOutgolfer Stop arguing about me. XD

Wait. I just kind insulted myself...

user165474

lol this is great

user165474

2:24 PM

ooo

TuxCopter

@Mego but you said that you aren't really a penguin

user165474

SO is like rises a bit and then goes relatively flat and PPCG is like time to be exponential

Riker

@quartata any general advice then? :/

user165474

well is anyone going to answer this? it's not that hard

user165474

and it has 1 view per minute on average :I

Erik the Outgolfer

2:28 PM

I don't think so especially after the 05AB1E answer

user165474

I got ninja'd rip

user165474

actually no

user165474

I was 15 secs earlier :D

user165474

but rip when the first answer is probably the shortest

Shaggy

@HyperNeutrino Tried. Got booted by the Google API after 3 attempts. Gave up!

Mayube

2:32 PM

I'm not a fan of API challenges imo

Erik the Outgolfer

I'm not a fan of challenges using APIs that have quotas

Phoenix

It just occurred to me that every time I've though "Ruby would be good for this" was because of gsub.

Other than that I know very little Ruby

I don't even know how to define a function, but puts and gets are very short so it works out anyway.

user165474

I'm not sure using the Google API is the shortest method but yeah API quotas are annoying.

programmer5000

All syntactically valid objects/identifiers in JS: $.$ $_$ O.o O_o o.O o_O o.o o_o

Erik the Outgolfer

I tried to use the Google API 0 times and it kicked me out

user165474

2:39 PM

wut

Business Cat

o_O would be valid in most conventional languages

user165474

I think $ is allowed in Java.

user165474

They should make it an operator.

Business Cat

Yeah I just checked and it is. Weird

user165474

It's not a valid identifier in Python

user165474

2:40 PM

idk what it does though

Erik the Outgolfer

o_o would also be valid in most languages

user165474

No answers?

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Q: Interpret +p code

Inspired by the recent craze over another two character language, ;# Intro According to community consensus, acceptable answers on this site must use programming languages that, at minimum: Can determine if a natural number is prime Can add two natural numbers together Can represent a list/tu...

code-golf interpreter

Erik the Outgolfer

@NewMainPosts the challenge has been terminated

Christopher

@ATaco feature-request userscript command. /strawpoll What it is about, option A, option b, option c.

Mayube

2:50 PM

@EriktheOutgolfer what do you mean it's been terminated?

Erik the Outgolfer

I don't think that there will be any shorter answer than 5 bytes

Christopher

Yeah. It is silly

Mayube

treat each language as it's own competition

IMO it's stupid to not want to post a python answer just because somebody's already posted a 2 byte Jelly answer

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Business Cat

Right. "If I can't be the best I won't put any effort in at all" is not a very good attitude

Shaggy

Anyone interested in a bookmarklet to pull up a random challenge you haven't attempted yet? codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/122400/58974

Jan Dvorak

3:02 PM

@BusinessCat citation-needed

Riker

3:21 PM

@HyperNeutrino want a bounty?

Conor O'Brien

@Qwerp-Derp it's just about done. Finished school yesterday

Riker

@Shaggy hey, this should be added to the PPCG design script

for teh QOTD widget that's perennially borked

Shaggy

@Riker Not really, it's horribly inefficient, seeing as its golfed. But, if there's interest, I'll work up a full version. Also, what's the PPCG design script?!

Erik the Outgolfer

@Shaggy sorry I only use bookmarklets that are verified to work

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Q: XKCD Password Generator

Introduction Apparently, this question has been asked here and it unfortunately closed. I thought it was a good idea to try again with it, but done right. XKCD looks at the how we are trained to use "hard to remember passwords", thinking it's secure, but instead, would take a computer 3 days t...