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What tips do you have for golfing in Wierd? Tips for golfing other languages don't seem to help one golf Weird programs so I'm looking for ideas that can be applied to code golf problems that are specific to Weird - especially if it helps me reduce the size of this answer at "Hello, World!"

El'endia Starman

00:19

@Calvin'sHobbies Woah, you're right, that's so weird. Even if my fiancée and I got married tomorrow and had a kid as soon as possible, it'd still be about 16 years before they could start driving a car, and the progress in the field in the last four years or so has been incredible.

Dennis

@El'endiaStarman Do you mean the disabled textareas? They are different from the overall bg color, but maybe not different enough...

I should stop testing only how it looks on my phone.

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Nathan Merrill

@ETHproductions is this from all time? I really don't think some of those names should be as big as they are, and there are some odd words there too, like integral(u'*v

Maltysen

@NathanMerrill hey that's from what flawr was teaching me FA today

El'endia Starman

@Dennis I meant more for displaying whitespace without resorting to autosizing text boxes.

ETHproductions

@NathanMerrill No, just the last 10000 messages

Dennis

00:24

Oh, completely misunderstood that.

Nathan Merrill

which is what? a day here?

ETHproductions

It says "1.1k per day" in the room description, so I guess 9 days

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@quartata no

He'll prolly be on later tho

mınxomaτ

Let's say I have a REPL language that has a four letter name (say, moon). What would be a nice readline prompt for the REPL? (E.g. >, >>>, moon> etc. pp)

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

An educator decides to put years worth of lessons (in youtube format) on a single page; a single tab process uses

83% CPU
1.8 GB Memory
13766609 Cache Faults
825 Page Ins
17 Threads
1252006 Context Switches
175292 Unix System Salls
No scrolling on page; no response from page at all

Worst usage of technology by educator ever 2016 award.

@mınxomaτ maybe moon >

Alex A.

00:39

@mınxomaτ pp

mınxomaτ

@AlexA. Hm?

Alex A.

> (E.g. >, >>>, moon> etc. pp)

feersum

moo?

Alex A.

> pp

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

Python uses >>> btw

mınxomaτ

00:39

>.<

Alex A.

p for "prompt"

I like moon>

mınxomaτ

Yeah, I think that's good enough. I was also considering moon ~>, where ~ would be a symbol to indicate the error state of the last command (like in zsh powerline)

Alex A.

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)>

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mınxomaτ

oh no

Alex A.

Wow, the Lenny face looked a lot better in Safari than it does in Firefox

DrMcMoylex

00:45

It looks pretty bad on chrome too...

Alex A.

@mınxomaτ You could change the character used for the eyes based on the error state

feersum

It looks really bad in the starboard (FF).

mınxomaτ

Terminal doesn't like it.

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

A colored moon>, perhaps?

Conor O'Brien

@TuxCopter on your answer here you should make that change I poitned out

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

00:47

moon > is also nice

Downgoat

@DrMcMoylex :( why change avatar

old avatar was beautiful

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

^^

Alex A.

@mınxomaτ feature-request Get a Lenny-compatible terminal

Conor O'Brien

mınxomaτ

haha

Alex A.

00:50

hahaha

mınxomaτ

@AlexA. That should be a table flip.

Gabriel Benamy

so who wants to write emojiscript with me

Alex A.

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)> normal prompt, (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻> error prompt

DrMcMoylex

@Downgoat Dennis and irksterly begged me to

Yodle

Echo/Google Home infinite loop

►

Downgoat

00:51

@DrMcMoylex D:

Dennis

@DrMcMoylex The problem seems to be related to reading the input file. tio.run/nexus/v#@3@44fDKssOb4nIiC4wq7A5vAvI3pvz//9/8vxEA works just fine.

mınxomaτ

Pasting that lenny face completely messed up my zsh history.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@Downgoat guilty as charged

Conor O'Brien

@Dennis feature request: you should increase the width of the language bars because some languages have decently long names

DrMcMoylex

@Dennis yeah that would make sense Try It Online!

Conor O'Brien

00:53

DrMcMoylex

How are you calling it?

Dennis

@DrMcMoylex python2 path/main.py --hexdump -u -f .input.tio code.tio <user arguments>

Gabriel Benamy

@Dennis can you take a look at something for me with the Nexus?

Dennis

@ConorO'Brien That's v2. I'm currently working on tio.run/nexus.

Gabriel Benamy

oh wait nevermind it's not doing it anymore

Dennis

00:56

@GabrielBenamy Sure, what is it?

Conor O'Brien

@Dennis oh ok. notwithstanding tho :P

Gabriel Benamy

Earlier today, I ran a program that printed correctly for the range 1 to 100, but for 1 to 105, it only printed the first 104 outputs

DrMcMoylex

@Dennis hmm... That looks right.

Conor O'Brien

also, for the nexus, the character count of the textarea isn't shown on page load

@quartata you changed your avatar back!

quartata

I had 2 days ago but se was being weird

Conor O'Brien

00:58

oh

quartata

In other news, I've started making demands:

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in PPCG TF2 Server, 28 secs ago, by quartata

@Downgoat I will kill one goat per hour until you pull the chat relay

It didn't have to come to this

@ConorO'Brien Yeah, I'm not sure what happened. I guess I didn't save or something

I'm too lazy to make a Christmas avatar sadly

Conor O'Brien

who needs to when you have HAAAAAAAAAAAAATS

DrMcMoylex

WTF, why won't my phone connect to my pc?

Alex A.

The moderators have decided not to enable hats this year.

quartata

What??

Conor O'Brien

01:00

wait really

Alex A.

I'm just fucking with you.

quartata

Damn. Fell for it.

DrMcMoylex

I don't believe you

quartata

ew

DrMcMoylex

o_O

Alex A.

01:01

...

quartata

let's not go there

Conor O'Brien

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

DrMcMoylex

uh...

Conor O'Brien

bad idea

sorry y'all >_<

Downgoat

@quartata WAT

quartata

01:06

@Downgoat Yes. I've entrusted it to my trusty lackey Laff-O-Tron

Downgoat

Brb calling hostage negotiator

quartata

Laff will announce the untimely deaths of the goats in the TF2 room every hour

Along with a eulogy

@Downgoat There isn't a whole lot to negotiate here

Geobits

Please save the meat. We can go over to Marky's place for stew.

quartata

Oh, good idea.

Alex A.

@Geobits How is the old chap?

quartata

01:09

Yeah, haven't seen him around in a while.

Geobits

He's just resting up. Nothing to worry about >_>

In other news, wtf PS3?

Downgoat

@Geobits can u make resting permanent >:) :P

Geobits

I reserve the right to wake him up to harass and/or eat goats at any time.

quartata

speaking of which whatever happened with that ball of xkcd data I sent you

Alex A.

@Geobits 1180 minutes... have fun with that...

Geobits

01:14

@quartata Uh, it's still in the ball. I definitely didn't forget all about it or anything.

@AlexA. -_-

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Stack Overflow Quine popularity-contestquine Write a code snippet, along with a programming question about it, where the snippet outputs the full markdown of the question, including the snippet. The question must be on-topic for at least one of the SE Trilogy sites. Since this is a popularit...

DrMcMoylex

@Dennis I've figured it out. If you pull V it should (probably) work now.

Geobits

01:30

@AlexA. About five minutes later it changed to "Approx 8 minutes left" and hasn't moved from that since. I'm not sure which lie I prefer.

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

@Geobits That's why testing is important

Geobits

What makes you think it wasn't tested and approved this way? :P

quartata

01:58

@Geobits I see

Well I'm guessing since you haven't forgotten about it that you are probably working rapidly on bringing about xkcd marky to the world

@Downgoat 10 minutes to the first sacrifice I believe

Downgoat

owell

Geobits

Uh, well, actually right now I'm cursing my playstation.

quartata

Why don't you just give in and pull it it's not like it will take you longer than 10 minutes

I already tested everything

I don't even care if you install the plugins or the MOTD at this point

@Geobits Oh boy

ETHproductions

@Downgoat Which version of Node do you have?

Downgoat

v7 on laptop and LCS on server

quartata

02:04

Wait, v7 is a thing?

I thought v5 was the latest

ETHproductions

I was gonna ask you to test the latest commit of Crayon, cause I re-added babel but I only have v7, and I'd like it tested in the older versions

Maybe v4 is still hiding on my hard drive

quartata

v5 was the latest when I checked 6 months ago, it can't be that old...

ETHproductions

Yeah, v7's only been out for a month or so

quartata

in PPCG TF2 Server, 3 mins ago, by Laff-O-Tron

Goat #1 has been sacrificed

@Downgoat

Downgoat

speaking of goats. One of my teachers told us she ate chevon. That teacher is going to be a teacher for much longer... >:)

Gabriel Benamy

02:09

okay I give up, I can't shorten my code anywhere

quartata

I better move this to C9 so that it keeps running

Downgoat

@ETHproductions btw you should use my optimization plugin :D

github.com/vihanb/babel-plugin-loop-optimizer

ETHproductions

Ahahaha, yes I saw that last night

I don't even know if I'm using map anywhere though

Downgoat

i did a search in your code, you are :)

ETHproductions

Ah, there's one line that uses it

Downgoat

02:12

@orlp I AM PANICKING HALP

"don't panic" is most effective way to start panic

Gabriel Benamy

Downgoat

nvm I'm dumb

Dennis

@DrMcMoylex Indeed. \o/ So did v1 and Nexus run different versions of V?

ETHproductions

@Downgoat It didn't seem to change that one line

Downgoat

wait what

ETHproductions

02:14

Here, I'll make a new file with just a .map and see what happens

Zizouz212

Sup folks

Downgoat

did you put in plugins section instead of like presets section by accident

@Zizouz212 .o/ hai

welcome to TNB where your local pichu is on a goat genocide streak

ETHproductions

I think I may have done that, lemme see

quartata

In the time it took you to compose that sentence you could have pulled the relay

El'endia Starman

Welcome to TNB where the puns are made up and the stars don't matter.

Zizouz212

02:16

Local Pichu?

ETHproductions

You know what they say: if at first you don't succeed, AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

quartata

@Zizouz212 @ArtOfCode How do I force Chatexchange to get rid of everything queued and log out

ETHproductions

@Downgoat Hey look, now it works :D

Downgoat

:D \o/

ETHproductions

Let me test the code now to see if it actually works in real life

Geobits

02:20

One goat is hardly what I'd call a genocide streak. More like a warning shot.

Alex A.

@Geobits I once reinstalled an OS and the installer said "less than 1 minute remaining" for 10 hours

quartata

Oh but there's more on the way

ETHproductions

Nothing went terribly wrong, so that's a good sine

Alex A.

> good sine

Maltysen

@quartata have laff-o-tron pick and post a random video from these goat sacrifice videos (pretty nsfw in terms of gore)

ETHproductions

02:23

@AlexA. I typed that accidentally but decided to leave it to see what the reaction would be

Geobits

@quartata Yep. So the first is just showing you're serious :P

ETHproductions

Hey look, it's the Cat in the Hat

Geobits

@AlexA. Yeah, it's at "5 left" now, along with about a third of the progress bar filled. Been that way for about half an hour now.

Maltysen

@Geobits 5 arbitrary units :P

Alex A.

5 mortal lifespans

ETHproductions

02:25

5 years it would seem :P

ninja'death

Geobits

Maybe "mins" stands for "minutely observable slices of time when presented on the cosmic scale" instead of "minutes". That's what I get for assuming.

Then again, it does say "Approx", so maybe it just rounds weird.

Alex A.

When I was in elementary school I didn't give a shit about learning how to multiply decimals, so on a test I just multiplied integer portions and wrote "approx" next to every answer.

Downgoat

@Maltysen do that and laff can enjoy a nice long kickban from TF2 room and me changing my mind about eventually pulling tf2goat

ETHproductions

@Downgoat github.com/ETHproductions/crayon/commit/…

quartata

@Downgoat Yeah I'm not that mean. I mean these are just virtual goats

But seriously pull it now and fix the me field. It's causing a lot of issues

Geobits

02:31

Oh, they're just virtual? Uh, I mean, umm, yeah. So were all those others. Virtual. Yeah.

quartata

The TF room is getting spammed because I wasn't clearing the message queue

I wouldn't be bugging you about it if it was minor.

DrMcMoylex

@Dennis Yay! I'm not sure why it works on v1. It was an issue with running outside of the V directory

Downgoat

@quartata okay pulled

quartata

Pull ChatExchange Source Python too.

Alex A.

*please

DrMcMoylex

02:33

Also, this is golfer. :)

quartata

@AlexA. Sorry. I'm just grumpy because I've been asking for 5 days

Alex A.

The salt is real

Dennis

@DrMcMoylex o_O v1 does that too.

DrMcMoylex

Does what?

cd V?

Dennis

Run outside the directory.

Anyway, the important thing is that it works now.

DrMcMoylex

02:36

Oh. Do you use an absolute path for the input file?

Downgoat

@quartata done

do u need reload

considering i have finish classes in cheddar for most part.. i should convince CS teacher to accept Cheddar :D

quartata

Is there anyone on?

Dennis

@DrMcMoylex Not on Nexus. I think I do on v1, but I tried that on Nexus too iirc.

quartata

Restart the server if not.

Geobits

If so, there won't be while you're restarting anyway ;)

quartata

02:40

@Downgot Did you change me in the JSON

Downgoat

@quartata ok doine

@quartata no

quartata

Change it to TF2goat's chat ID. It's incorrect currently

That should be everything. If you're feeling extra merciful you could do the MOTD the two plugins and the cvars

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Q: Tetris overlooked move counter

Playing tetris is fun. Watching an AI play tetris is also fun. Some tetris AIs will always ignore the possibility of maneuvering a piece under an overhang, which makes me sad. It means that the programmer said to himself, "What are all the possible places the tile could be at the top of the bo...

code-golf tetris ai-player

Alex A.

@NewMainPosts This could be clearer. Won't hammer though.

Conor O'Brien

02:59

what would you call the operation of taking a string (say, "asdf") and yielding "asdfdsa"

Alex A.

I don't know that it has a rigorously defined name, but I'd call it "mirroring."

Dennis

Jelly calls it bouncing

Conor O'Brien

bouncing! I knew it was b

I thought it was bubbling :P

do we/should we have a challenge for that?

Maltysen

@ConorO'Brien yeah, jelly won with its builtin

Conor O'Brien

oh, cool

Dennis

03:11

We do. Palindromizing or something.

I doubt that, single 05AB1E has a one-byte built-in.

Downgoat

03:29

@AlexA. WAIT WHAT

Maltysen

@Downgoat read like three messages down

Downgoat

3 hours ago, by Alex A.

I'm just fucking with you.

;_; y u— crap I'm not allowed to do that anymore ~~;_;~~

Geobits

Holy crap! Now it says only 3 minutes left, and the bar is about 60% full :) :/

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Q: Shortest code to swap two columns (CSV) if the first column matches a pattern

Say I have a CSV file like so Field 1 Field 2 5 cat Adz Ben 2 mite Blue Sox Spa Red Sox Adz In the shortest possible way, measured in bytes, create a program that takes in a CSV file called A.csv and either updates A.csv or creates another file, say B.csv, so that if any en...

code-golf ruby

Gabriel Benamy

tagged "ruby"

Geobits

03:34

@NewMainPosts That looks suspiciously like real, outsourced work >_>

Gabriel Benamy

that's my thought

PhiNotPi

sounds like a programming language but isn't: Scala

Gabriel Benamy

sounds like a programming language but isn't: B-

PhiNotPi

also sounds like a programming language but isn't: Hexany

Geobits

code-golf hibernate What's the shortest code to merge Hibernate search query results into one list?

Maltysen

03:37

@Geobits but this guy was good enough to at least make it technically on-topic for PPCG (remotely interesting, on the other hand...)

Geobits

Yeah, I didn't VTC or anything, but I'm not going to be answering lol

Gabriel Benamy

We should have the only answers be in golfing languages

Maltysen

he didn't even give an example of a csv

Geobits

Eh, despite the name, CSVs can have non-comma separators. It's dumb, but...

Alex A.

> depsite

Geobits

03:41

Short for deposition site, yes.

<_<

Alex A.

>_>

Anonymous

This smells like homework... — Mego 2 mins ago

Geobits

I wouldn't even say homework. Sounds more like actual work-work to me. Some junior programmer got hit with a bucketful of old crap data that needs fixing or something.

Anonymous

Maybe we should just have an unspoken community rule that we don't post solutions for homework-y questions. They're not off-topic (unless they have other issues), but we can discourage them by just not answering.

Gabriel Benamy

well it's being downvoted into oblivion

Geobits

03:43

Huh, this user has gotten that comment before, and it was even on a CSV-related question:

This feels like a homework challenge under the guise of code-golf — Matt Sep 24 at 22:55

I already don't answer them if they feel that way to me. So uh, I lead by example or something >_>

Anonymous

@Geobits What a hero

Geobits

I'm just a man, playing his small part in the world. casually brushes shoulder

Anonymous

I thought you were a disapproving blue skull

Geobits

I never said I was handsome, but way to point out that flaw :/

Gabriel Benamy

cmc: read a drive (formatted in NTFS) bit by bit and parse the master file table

Dennis

03:50

Btw, tio.run/nexus/actually#@2/k8GjKnEP7wx9NWwBkPJrZ9KizA0hGGjkc2v//….

Geobits

Congratulations, Playstation! You've finally reached the cringe-inducing "0 seconds left" stage.

wat

Test

Gabriel Benamy

Quiz

ETHproductions

@Downgoat Do you know any good arbitrary-precision math npm libraries?

Anonymous

@Dennis You got Actually working on TIO v2?

Anonymous

03:58

And did I write that code?

Dennis

Yes and yes.

Anonymous

Neat, I remember the challenge now

wat

@Mego you got what actually working?

Anonymous

Count down from Inf - I think Stewie made it?

Dennis

TIO Nexus, to be precise. v2 is still in alpha.

Seriously too.

Anonymous

04:00

What's Nexus, other than a smartphone brand and a modding repository?

wat

@Mego It is a TIO thing to merge v1 and v2

Also, Nexus is dead

Dennis

A short-term solution so I can retire v1 asap while I iron out the details of v2.

wat

@Dennis why do you want to retire v1 asap?

Anonymous

Wait why is Perl under "practical"?

wat

@Mego Practical Extraction and Report Langiage

ETHproductions

04:02

Oh, I thought it meant "pearl" but golfier

Anonymous

Any chance you'd be willing to add Node to the list?

Dennis

@wat 1) To sleep better at night. Sandboxing is between bad and non-existing. 2) The money I pay for the v1 server would be better spent on an upgrade for the arena (where Nexud and v2 run the uset code).

@Mego Sure.

As long as I can get it to work, I'll add anything. Well, almost anything.

Gabriel Benamy

COW interpreter when

Alex A.

wat

@AlexA. kek

PhiNotPi

04:11

Right now I'm trying to figure out the easiest way to compose microtonal music... I'm not seeing many options for software.

wat

Alex A.

@PhiNotPi Write your own

Blaze a new trail

Gabriel Benamy

@PhiNotPi I think Mathematica has options for microtonalities

wat

@GabrielBenamy Mathematica?

For music?

Gabriel Benamy

@wat Sure, why not? It has MIDI capabilities, and when it comes down to it, music is really just sine and cosine waves

wat

04:13

@GabrielBenamy Mathematica has MIDI?

Gabriel Benamy

@wat Yep!

wat

@GabrielBenamy ...

<---

ETHproductions

Mathematica has practically everything you can think of.

wat

even a function that identifies goats.

ETHproductions

Almost ;)

wat

04:15

@ETHproductions yeah, i knew it was there.

Gabriel Benamy

reference.wolfram.com/language/ref/Sound.html

PhiNotPi

04:29

Wow, Scala is actually a really powerful piece of software. (the one I linked above, not the language)

wat

i just set up the best server config

look at this

it's a pastebin, an uplaoad host, and an image host

p.dk0.us/a74a.txt

u.dk0.us/firefox-52.0a2.en-US.win32.installer-stub.exe

images: s.dk0.us/1a4d.png

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