The Nineteenth Byte

zyabin101

16:00

This is Disk First Aid, the software to fix hard drives that works like the one we saw in the System 7.0 boot disk. >_>

This is Apple HD SC Setup, the software to set up SCSI drives that works like the one we saw in the System 7.0 boot disk. >_>

Downgoat

>_>

zyabin101

<_<

This is the Installer and Installer Script, the installer for System Six dot Zero Eight! ^_^

<_<

v_v

>_> This is the End of Tour for the System Startup drive's root folder. >_>

aditsu

☠_☠

zyabin101

Who wishes to visit the System folder? >_>

@aditsu $_$

aditsu

@zyabin101 💣_💣

zyabin101

16:02

@aditsu O_O

... cam-ops: hey, when do we show the next pic? ... me: alright, alright, give me a second! ...

Welcome to the System Folder folder, located on the System Startup disk in the first partition of the drive of the emulated computer that accepts floppies. Blah bwah boo. >_>

This folder has 21 items.

>_>

>_<

Downgoat

<_<

zyabin101

<_>

These 7 Mac icons, hand holding files, Apple briefcase, sun, Mac showing an accessibility icon, and keyboard aren't the only items. >_>

The full list is,

System, Finder, Multifinder, Clipboard File, Backgrounder, General, Scrapbook File, AppleShare, DA Handler, Brightness, Easy Access, Keyboard,

Key Layout, Map, Mouse, Sound, Startup Device, Color, Access Privileges, Monitors, and Portable.

>_>

aditsu

︻╦╤─

zyabin101

@aditsu @_@

The list is so large that it would take me forever to describe each item.

New Main Posts

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Q: Judge Some Titrations

In chemistry class, we were learning about titrations, and attempting one as a lab. We were using phenolphthalein as the indicator for the titration, and so on top of grading the lab normally, my teacher held a little contest to see who had the lightest shade of pink, and thus the most accurate t...

aditsu

16:08

@zyabin101 🔥_🔥

zyabin101

@aditsu O_O

To shut down the computer, we, as always, choose Special and Shut Down from the menu.

All done, almost. >_>

Next episode, I'll show you the Apple menu items.

>_>

... beep beep beep ... delay ... boop ...

Who liked the show?

>_>

wizzwizz4

ArtOfCode

@wizzwizz4 image not found

wizzwizz4

@ArtOfCode How about now?

ArtOfCode

still image not found

wizzwizz4

16:21

@ArtOfCode Try refreshing..

work code work!

ArtOfCode

@wizzwizz4 now it's just entirely blank

Downgoat

@wizzwizz4 it says "user image" for me

wizzwizz4

Maybe my server just isn't holding out...

Click on it though; it should take you to the proposal page.

ArtOfCode

I can't click on it. The element doesn't exist :P

wizzwizz4

@ArtOfCode Refresh again...

Wait, what browser are you using?

ArtOfCode

16:23

@wizzwizz4 nada

Chrome

53.0.2744.0

wizzwizz4

@ArtOfCode Huh. In theory it works in Chrome.

In practice, Chrome isn't so good with consistency sometimes...

ArtOfCode

Well it is the Canary channel...

wizzwizz4

@ArtOfCode Try Firefox. (The stable branch of Firefox)

zyabin101

I use QtWeb >_<

So a Question Mark in a Blue Box shows up for me.

wizzwizz4

@zyabin101 Why is it working on mine and nobody else's?

ArtOfCode

16:27

@wizzwizz4 hang on then

VTCAKAVSMoACE

@wizzwizz4 You're the only one who has access to the Azure workspace.

zyabin101

@wizzwizz4 idk #_#

wizzwizz4

@VTCAKAVSMoACE That shouldn't make a difference.

ArtOfCode

Ack, it's gotta update. Give it a minute.

VTCAKAVSMoACE

@wizzwizz4 You're sending it through a query on this page, which appears to be forwarding to a location we can't see.

ArtOfCode

16:28

Blank in FF too

wizzwizz4

@VTCAKAVSMoACE Wait. Are you saying that, because I'm signed into my Microsoft account, it's giving me access to my server, and nobody else can access it?

ArtOfCode

@wizzwizz4 probably

VTCAKAVSMoACE

@wizzwizz4 That's correct.

Maltysen

@wizzwizz4 I can see it

and i'm (probably) not signed into your microsoft account >_>

ArtOfCode

Only probably

wizzwizz4

16:29

@VTCAKAVSMoACE It's not forwarding anywhere. If an image is requested, it will return the image as payload. If not, it will request the webpage.

VTCAKAVSMoACE

huh

wizzwizz4

@Maltysen Which browser?

Maltysen

chrome

ubuntu

VTCAKAVSMoACE

It's not working in Safari 9.1 either, then.

wizzwizz4

@Maltysen Which ip range?

ArtOfCode

16:30

Nope, not working in updated FF either

VTCAKAVSMoACE

@wizzwizz4 Now I just get linked to Area 51.

wizzwizz4

@VTCAKAVSMoACE That's meant to happen. :-)

Maltysen

@wizzwizz4 huhwhat?

wizzwizz4

@Maltysen I thought it might be ip discrimination... never mind.

Maltysen

@wizzwizz4 oh I'm in new york

wizzwizz4

16:32

@Maltysen ~~But which ip range?~~ The server's hosted near there...

Maltysen

66.65.117.221

wizzwizz4

And nobody else can access it...

ArtOfCode

starts ddos

wizzwizz4

@ArtOfCode Close. Everyone use a proxy. ~~Give it your Stack Exchange login~~ Bad idea...

zyabin101

@ArtOfCode ends ddos

ArtOfCode

16:33

@zyabin101 damnit

zyabin101

@wizzwizz4 I'm safe cuz I live in Russia :)

wizzwizz4

@zyabin101 Maybe it doesn't let you through because most attacks are routed through Russia?

ArtOfCode

I'm in the UK, so bang goes that one

Also, by far the majority of attacks route through China, not Russia.

wizzwizz4

Keep talking about this, we've almost got a whole page about it.

Azure Portal's completely crashed now...

What are you doing to my server?!? :-)

ArtOfCode

Actually, I stand corrected... most attacks are originating from the US today.

Followed by China.

zyabin101

16:35

D:

ArtOfCode

Russia is 4th.

wizzwizz4

@ArtOfCode Are most of them targeted at my server, by any chance?

zyabin101

3rd is?

ArtOfCode

@wizzwizz4 New York? Nah

Dr Green Eggs and Ham DJ

@ArtOfCode Most DDOS attacks?

ArtOfCode

16:36

@DrGreenEggsandHamDJ everything attacks

@zyabin101 Germany

Dr Green Eggs and Ham DJ

I'm not sure what you mean. Most digital attacks come from the US?

wizzwizz4

Azure Portal's almost loaded, and then I'll have access to the request stats...

ArtOfCode

Targets are in NY state, by the looks, but not the city itself

@DrGreenEggsandHamDJ today, yeah

wizzwizz4

Ok, I've got live HTTP traffic. ONE person who it doesn't work for, please refresh chat.

ArtOfCode

done

still blank

zyabin101

16:41

@wizzwizz4 done

ninja'd

Maltysen

> ONE

lel

wizzwizz4

Apparently live HTTP traffic doesn't actually give me any info about the traffic.

By the way, 3 people?!?

Five people?

Kenny Lau

@Maltysen Would you golf my pyth solution here?

ArtOfCode

@wizzwizz4 course not, it'll give you headers at max

you want a server log

Maltysen

@KennyLau sure!, lemme see

wizzwizz4

16:43

@ArtOfCode ...

Kenny Lau

Leaderboard (evaluated):
Jelly:       !¡
Actually:    `!`n
CJam:        q~{m!}*
Pyth:        Mem=.!GH
Mathematica: #!&~Nest~##&
UGL:         iilRc%l$d:_l*%:%rd:_o
Julia:       x->y->eval(parse("$x"*repeat("|>factorial",y)))
Python:      f=lambda a,b,k=1:b and(a and f(a-1,b,k*a)or f(k,b-1))or a

Leaderboard (without evaluation):
Julia:       x->y->"$x"*repeat("|>factorial",y)

Chat mini-challenge: given positive integers x and y, output the result of the application of factorial to x for y times
For example, 3,2 -> (3!)!

@Maltysen I'm referring to here

Though I would also appreciate if you golf my Pyth solution on your question

wizzwizz4

@KennyLau Hey! We almost had an entire page solely about my little image linky thing. :'-(

Maltysen

@KennyLau .!F+E

I think

wait nvm

that doesn't work

Kenny Lau

@isaacg Feature request: see above

wizzwizz4

Ok, can anyone who it doesn't work for check which request your browser was sending?

Maltysen

16:44

@KennyLau .!F+UE

that should work

Kenny Lau

.!F never works

Maltysen

no nvm

I see

ArtOfCode

@wizzwizz4 gimme a moment to filter this network log

Kenny Lau

@Maltysen The doc says that F must be preceded by a function of arity at least 2

It is also the only function that has an unfixed arity

Maltysen

@KennyLau u.!GEQ

Kenny Lau

16:46

It takes 2 additional argument, if the preceding function has arity 2

Maltysen

reduce is better than your solution

but not implict

Kenny Lau

It takes 1, if the preceding function has arity more than 2

ArtOfCode

@wizzwizz4 what's the URL?

Kenny Lau

Leaderboard (evaluated):
Jelly:       !¡
Actually:    `!`n
CJam:        q~{m!}*
Pyth:        u.!GEQ
Pyth:        Mem=.!GH
Mathematica: #!&~Nest~##&
UGL:         iilRc%l$d:_l*%:%rd:_o
Julia:       x->y->eval(parse("$x"*repeat("|>factorial",y)))
Python:      f=lambda a,b,k=1:b and(a and f(a-1,b,k*a)or f(k,b-1))or a

Leaderboard (without evaluation):
Julia:       x->y->"$x"*repeat("|>factorial",y)

wizzwizz4

@ArtOfCode Oh, you need to do it when it's embedded in a page as an image...

ArtOfCode

16:48

@wizzwizz4 I just refreshed chat again to make it re-fetch

wizzwizz4

Aand the image has gone off the top of the screen :-(

29 mins ago, by wizzwizz4

:-)

ArtOfCode

Ah, got it. Moment.

zyabin101

@wizzwizz4 :-(

Shows the Question Mark in a Blue Box again.

wizzwizz4

We're still debugging.

I've worked out one thing though:

ArtOfCode

Hah. Okay, net::ERR_BLOCKED_BY_CLIENT. AdBlock nuked it.

wizzwizz4

16:50

@ArtOfCode :-o

zyabin101

:-O

wizzwizz4

It's the client's fault.

zyabin101

:-(_)

quartata

It has "ads" in the url so that's probably why

Kenny Lau

@Maltysen Why did you delete this?

codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/79827/48934

Downgoat

16:52

@KennyLau probably didn't work for some cases

Maltysen

I didn't read some of the more specific rules about duplicates and stuff, it doesn't work for them

wizzwizz4

@ArtOfCode Make an exception for this page: there aren't ever ads here. (Well, except Area51 ads...)

ArtOfCode

@wizzwizz4 already have, looking through yet another network log

wizzwizz4

@ArtOfCode Thanks for that. I just need that little tiny request header, then I can fix it.

Too bad it's such a little tiny request header! Hard to find in -

Needle in a haystack.

Kenny Lau

@Maltysen May I attempt the challenge?

wizzwizz4

16:56

Set the needle to the url, and the haystack to the network log.

Then automate it.

(In other words, use the Find tool!)

ArtOfCode

Request URL: wizzwizz4webtools.azurewebsites.net/imagepage.php?url=http://…
Request Method: GET
Status Code: 200 OK
Remote Address: 40.112.143.134:80

Response Headers
----------------
Cache-Control: no-cache
Content-Length: 14901
Content-Type: image/*
Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 16:52:51 GMT
Server: Microsoft-IIS/8.0
X-Powered-By: PHP/5.4.45

and yes, it works now

wizzwizz4

But that is the response of a working system.

facepalm

ArtOfCode

@wizzwizz4 they're below the response headers :P

wizzwizz4

Adblock was blocking it the whole time!

@ArtOfCode Erm... I did not make a mistake. Definitely.

ArtOfCode

@wizzwizz4 of course not

wizzwizz4

16:58

Now to see how many more people have commited to AI...

Nobody. All that, and nobody committed to the proposal. :-(

I created an entire web application, highly extendible, reusable...

Two entire pages of people helped to debug...

zyabin101

@wizzwizz4 Why don't the ~80 people count?

ArtOfCode

@wizzwizz4 I would, if I wasn't already

wizzwizz4

@zyabin101 I meant nobody else.

zyabin101

@ArtOfCode You commited to AI?

ArtOfCode

aye

wizzwizz4

17:00

@zyabin101 Oh yes. (Ninja'd)

zyabin101

@ArtOfCode aye

wizzwizz4

@zyabin101 sqrt(-1)

zyabin101

@wizzwizz4 i, the imaginary unit.

10101000101010101001010100101010100101010101010110100

Definitely a human. :-[

quartata

> IterativeSolverDoubleNotConvergedException

This is probably the most verbose exception name I've ever seen

zyabin101

@quartata :O

Which class?

quartata

17:04

sites.google.com/site/piotrwendykier/software/parallelcolt

zyabin101

What should I draw for zyabinVI :/

wizzwizz4

quartata

That's a nice one

Dr Green Eggs and Ham DJ

@wizzwizz4 That's evil.

ArtOfCode

@wizzwizz4 You do realise SE chat allows you to just link an image, instead of proxying it? :P

quartata

17:10

I knew what it was when I hovered over it but I clicked on it anyways in hopes that it might be an 8-bit rickroll or something cool

@ArtOfCode Click it

ArtOfCode

@quartata I don't need to... I know how to use URL preview :P

quartata

Click it anyways

wizzwizz4

@ArtOfCode Yes, I know. But the xkcd image doesn't go to -

ArtOfCode

@wizzwizz4 ssshhh :P

@quartata no ta

quartata

I'm not sure it's what you think it is, that's all.

ArtOfCode

17:12

@quartata let me guess: it's a creative rickroll, to the extent that a rickroll can be called creative :P

wizzwizz4

@ArtOfCode Yup.

You've all gone quiet.

New Sandboxed Posts

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Serialize and Deserialize a Binary Tree! code-golf A coding website, leetcode.com, has a method to serialize a binary tree. Serialize means making a binary tree linear. For example, we have: [1,[[2],[3,4,5]]] 1 / \ 2 3 / \ 4 5 First, we fill the missing places with 0...

Downgoat

should preset variables such as pi be final/const/immutable?

quartata

They should be final fields in a class

Math.PI

They should not be globals

Geobits

Food.PIE

Downgoat

17:26

:/ okay

quartata

PersonFactory.createPerson().eat(new Food(Food.PIE));

2

Downgoat

I don't know if I can implement that yet though. There scope class cannot call accessors for variables

Cheddar:T_REPL..expr.exec> pi == pi
━━ Implicit Output ━━
true

\o/ \o/ \o/ \o/

quartata

Is it actually pi though?

Downgoat

@quartata once I implement a rational class pi will actually be equal to pi

quartata

@wizzwizz4 that's a funny one

wizzwizz4

17:31

@quartata Click. Click. Click.

quartata

@Downgoat But pi is irrational?

Downgoat

@quartata oh yeah :|

quartata

And transcendental

Maltysen

@KennyLau the one i deleted? sure

Downgoat

idk what to call it, it'll be a class that only evaluates once told to, to a given prescision

Kenny Lau

17:31

@Maltysen Well I've abandoned it already, so...

Maltysen

kek

Kenny Lau

lol

Maltysen

o_O name change

its an ...interesting one

Kenny Lau

Why can't I see it?

Downgoat

what should happen if you compare a string and a number? Throw an error?

Maltysen

17:33

@KennyLau I cant see it in chat either. I saw it on your answer

Downgoat

why are you starring my stupidity ಠ_ಠ

quartata

@Downgoat That sounds like symbolic computation kinda?

wizzwizz4

Anyone want to make a compiler?

quartata

@Downgoat yes

Kenny Lau

@Maltysen How do I make it here lol

Downgoat

17:33

ok what about nil and a boolean?

Maltysen

@KennyLau ask a mod

quartata

null pointer exception

Kenny Lau

@Maltysen really? :o

Maltysen

yeah they have to refresh it for you

wizzwizz4

Would anybody like to make a C++11 compiler?

Downgoat

17:34

@quartata oh,yeah, right

wizzwizz4

Or a backend for LLVM?

Leaky Nun

@Maltysen Let me try something

Downgoat

@wizzwizz4 no thank you

Leaky Nun

yep, it works

quartata

@wizzwizz4 Are you asking us if we want to recreate gcc?

If so the answer is definitely no

wizzwizz4

17:35

@quartata Not... quite.

6

Q: Are there any modern compilers that can generate Amiga/m68k executables?

I would quite like to resurrect my openkick project. As I note on that project's README.md, it is stalled because GNU GCC is not fit for purpose. Sadly, there do not seem to be any other modern compilers which still have (or ever had) m68k support. The LLVM backend appeared to be my best bet but...

amiga assembly m68k

trichoplax

@LeakyNun No actually I refreshed it just before you left... :)

Leaky Nun

Thanks @ChatProlix

quartata

@wizzwizz4 That's even worse

wizzwizz4

@quartata What if I asked you to do it in as few bytes as possible?

quartata

That's even worse

wizzwizz4

17:36

@quartata What if I set additional constraints designed to make it harder but appeal more to the stereotypical user of this site?

quartata

1 min ago, by quartata

That's even worse

Downgoat

strawpoll.me/10272055

quartata

As if writing a C compiler wasn't bad enough, Motorola 68K assembly is hell.

Leaky Nun

ರ_ರ

wizzwizz4

@quartata What about an LLVM backend?

zyabin101

17:38

@LeakyNun ಠ_ಠ

I thought the name changing season ended.

quartata

We still have to write the LLVM backend which would be even harder

zyabin101

And people still change their names.

Downgoat

^^^

wizzwizz4

@quartata What if there was already a little bit of code that you had to debug and fix. One-and-a-bit pages of chat say that someone here will do it.

quartata

Fixing other people's code usually tends to be harder than doing it yourself

wizzwizz4

17:44

@quartata Hmm... It's harder to convince people to spend days, possibly weeks, on a project that they will probably not benefit from themselves.

quartata

Sorry, I just think you're underestimating the difficulty of something like this. Especially a C++ compiler. A C compiler for this probably wouldn't be nearly as bad.

Leaky Nun

@zyabin101 How old are you?

quartata

(albeit still annoying af)

ArtOfCode

older than 7

Leaky Nun

@zyabin101 How old were you in the name-changing season?

wizzwizz4

17:45

@quartata I'm not underestimating the difficulty of anything. I'm just trying to convince random internet people to do things.

quartata

@ArtOfCode Wait, how do you know? :P

wizzwizz4

@ArtOfCode I'm older than 7 too. I'm older than 8! :-)

ArtOfCode

@quartata psychic

@wizzwizz4 omg snap

2

quartata

Ah, right

Maltysen

@quartata well you can use llc to convert llvm to c

and then use your c compiler

quartata

17:46

@Maltysen lel

I wonder what would be worse, a LLVM backend or a C compiler. I'm actually guessing C compiler

wizzwizz4

@quartata Hmm... Let's benchmark it. 20 people try to make a LLVM backend, and 20 try to make a C compiler.

(This isn't working, is it?)

ArtOfCode

nope

zyabin101

@LeakyNun I better not answer neither.

I'm too shy to.

ArtOfCode

→ 14 messages moved to Trashcan

Downgoat

;_;

zyabin101

17:53

14 messages of pure noise.

Dr Green Eggs and Ham DJ

@LeakyNun MATL, 4 bytes: :":p

zyabin101

@Art 10/10 most constructive way to deal with it :P

ArtOfCode

mod powers are pretty boss

Leaky Nun

Leaderboard (evaluated):
Jelly:       !¡
Actually:    `!`n
MATL:        :":p
CJam:        q~{m!}*
Pyth:        u.!GEQ
Pyth:        Mem=.!GH
Mathematica: #!&~Nest~##&
UGL:         iilRc%l$d:_l*%:%rd:_o
Julia:       x->y->eval(parse("$x"*repeat("|>factorial",y)))
Python:      f=lambda a,b,k=1:b and(a and f(a-1,b,k*a)or f(k,b-1))or a

Leaderboard (without evaluation):
Julia:       x->y->"$x"*repeat("|>factorial",y)

wizzwizz4

@Downgoat chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/29808107#29808107

Downgoat

17:54

@ArtOfCode if i become a mod, will i be able to see Trashcan

ArtOfCode

yep

Downgoat

brb running for mod

wizzwizz4

@Downgoat You're not a mod...?

Oh...

I assumed...

> Downgoat is a moderator

ArtOfCode

blue name == mod

quartata

@Downgoat Why do you want to see the Trashcan anyways?

2

ArtOfCode

17:55

@quartata because it's supah sekrit

Downgoat

strawpoll.me/10272280

wizzwizz4

@ArtOfCode You're a mod!

ArtOfCode

@wizzwizz4 that I am

Downgoat

@quartata who wouldnt want free breakfast

quartata

@Downgoat These options are very ambiguous so I'll just pick ;_;

zyabin101

17:56

@Downgoat Let the election decide all!

Wait until 2017.

Downgoat

@quartata is that a no ;_;

zyabin101

To see the real decision.

Downgoat

strawpoll.me/10272310

;_; who voted no

Maltysen

@Downgoat everyone ;P

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