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6:00 AM
me? about that giveaway? in this chat, I think :p
Aug 24 '15 at 15:37, by aditsu
@PeterTaylor wait what? anybody who posts something gets swag?
 
@aditsu oh I did those too
I should be getting swag too then soon :)
 
you filled the form, right?
 
yeah, I think I got a text from fedex about a package too
 
cool :)
based on this experience, I think they should update the meme from "6 to 8 weeks" to "6 to 8 months" :p
 
rekt
 
6:07 AM
I finished firewatch ;-;
 
@AlexA. cargo install is global (and needs a binary), looks like you'll have to use a Cargo.toml (via cargo new <name>, plus --bin if you want to make it binary)
 
So there isn't a binary of num I can get?
This seems like the absolute worst package management system in existence.
 
@AlexA. looks like no local (non-global) packages without a Cargo.toml either
but what's wrong with that?
 
Because I just want to download a library and write a quick program. I can do that in C++ really easily. Why has Rust made it this difficult?
 
and global packages are only for new commands
@AlexA. it's not difficult, you just need a cargo new foo
 
6:14 AM
It creates an entire directory structure
I literally just want to do rustc myfile.rs -L wherever-the-crates-are
 
@Liam College. I'm a mathematician.
 
@AlexA. but
just Cargo.toml + src/lib.rs = an entire directory structure?
 
Yeah. cargo new creates a directory and two files.
 
@AlexA. what's so bad about two files?
 
They shouldn't be necessary
 
6:17 AM
plus, you can put all your private files there
 
oh noes
 
Nobody should be using JavaScript
6
 
got some bad news guys
 
everyone should be using JavaScript
3
 
6:19 AM
damnit, 3 against 1
 
@AlexA. Starred for great truth.
2
 
corrects self
 
@Upgoat sorry, I could only star once
 
@Quill ooh he finally got one? did he cry? :p
 
everyone should use WebAssembly
 
6:19 AM
Can I throw a question idea out here?
 
Sure.
 
Everyone should use Windows .ini .
 
Sure! In general the sandbox is a more reliable place to get feedback, but we might have some input.
@msh210 ಠ_ಠ
 
@AlexA. Yeah, just a quick... see if it sounds horribly wrong, or has been asked before (though a search didn't find it).
 
What's your idea?
 
6:21 AM
For input integer n (and possibly integer d) list all the integers 1..n that (in decimal) have an even number of 3s (or d's).
 
@AlexA. but no JavaScript = no SE
 
They'd get by without it.
 
@Upgoat If JS didn't exist they'd have used something else.
 
Flash?
 
No, the better language that would have been created.
 
6:22 AM
TypeScript? CoffeeScript?
 
Errr....
 
client-side Perl
:-)
 
Perl is almost worst than JavaScript
Almost
 
client-side python would be nice
 
6:23 AM
@AlexA. Hey! :-(
 
@msh210 I can't think of any duplicates offhand. I think it sounds like a decent challenge. Not super interesting but I think it could be fun.
@aditsu Like Brython?
 
haven't heard of it
 
6:24 AM
@AlexA. Thanks... you think I should float it in the Sandbox?
 
anyway, wasm is the future, just not ready yet
 
The closest dupes would be "list all between a and b with a 1" or something that I know we have, but I'm not sure how close that would really be, tbh.
 
@IGoBest Right, but "with an even number of" is more interesting I think than "with(out) a"
 
@aditsu it's python for bros. it's big in frats right now.
 
@aditsu how is it the future?
 
6:25 AM
@AlexA. cool :)
@Upgoat well, the big guys are working on it and plan to use it, and it will be so much better
 
@msh210 Sure. I think it never hurts to use the sandbox.
 
@msh210 Right, I'm saying that's the closest I can think of, not that it's exactly the same :)
 
@Upgoat I don't see anything about wasm there
 
oh wait my bad
 
I don't know why everyone just doesn't use php for like, everything. It's such a beautifully designed language.
 
6:28 AM
I hope you're being sarcastic
 
Nope! So elegant. Much pretty. Wow.
 
almost as pretty as a doge, but less smart :p
 
@IGoBest what about Perl?
 
@msh210 Julia, 44 bytes: f(n,d)=filter(i->sum(d.==digits(i))%2<1,1:n)
 
@Upgoat Perl is a mess. Did you know that PHP stands for People Hate Perl?
 
6:30 AM
@IGoBest node.js? python? ASP.NET?
 
Ruby?
 
@Upgoat Two of those three are named for snakes. Snakes are devils. I rest my case.
@mınxomaτ Ruby -> greed -> sin
 
umm....
 
haha
 
6:31 AM
...
 
lolz :)
 
Way to invoke a moment of silence o_O
 
I literally forgot that February doesn't have 30 days. Now I'm one day late on everything ._.
 
It's not a leap leap year :)
 
I almost forgot it has 29 days
 
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

msh210May the odds be ever omitted code-golf Input [ An integer n | Two integers n and d ] Output The integers from 1 to n inclusive whose decimal representations contain an even number of [ 3s | ds ]

 
> Is WebAssembly trying to replace JavaScript?
> No!
Immediately lost interest in wasm
 
^
Why won't somebody just put it out of its misery already?
 
@AlexA. even if it's not trying, it likely will
 
put what?
 
6:35 AM
> JavaScript [...] will remain the single, privileged [...] language of the Web.
 
@AlexA. but wasm is still useful as a replacement for flash/html5+js
 
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
 
use brython + wasm
 
I'd think about brython if it wasn't 1) python and 2) a terrible name
I mean so terrible.
 
It's SO BAD
 
6:36 AM
Mostly a terrible name.
 
I should probably swap the order of those.
 
It's Python for bros
 
brothon
dudescript
Guys on Rails.
 
Bro, Bro++, Bro#
 
hahaha
 
6:37 AM
@AlexA. Perl 5, 27 bytes: map{@a=/3/g;@a%2||say}1..<>
 
I like Guys on Rails
 
I mean, imagine if we just add br to languages to "webify" them. brc++, brava, brerl, bravascript, bruby... it's just bad.
 
brala
 
@IGoBest s/bad/brad/
 
broovy
brulia
 
6:38 AM
brortran
 
brathebratica, bratlab, brilab
 
brobol
brasic
 
@mınxomaτ brb making brotran
 
brainfuck
oh wait
 
brotli
oh wait
 
6:39 AM
brelly = the new brotli
 
britsy!
brjam
 
bretina
 
brexagony
 
btw, bruby would use .brb files
 
maybe they were going for "bright" rather than "bro"
still not a great name
 
6:40 AM
well they were going for browser but failed miserably
 
I think it was browser
ninja'd
 
brinja'd
 
Upgoat got brekt
 
@Upgoat Nobody should be using python.
 
@IGoBest ah, well, yes they did :p
 
6:41 AM
@mınxomaτ Everybody should be using python.
 
@mınxomaτ Beats JS
Nope
Python 3 is usable but Python 2 should have been taken out back and shot laid to rest long ago.
2
 
Don't worry. I'm sure python 4 will break everything once again.
 
python 3 is kind of a pain sometimes (especially for golfing)
 
@IGoBest I hope they break it into a good language
 
@AlexA. damnit
still waiting for a decent pypy3
 
6:42 AM
@aditsu It could be laid to rest and still be used for golfing, though.
@AlexA. If they do, they could use the br from broken and throw it on the front of the name, changing it to brython. Wouldn't that be a great name?
 
Flawless
 
Well, thanks for your help, folks. Have a good time zone.
 
I have a good one, but it's not my favorite.
 
+8 :)
 
-8
 
6:45 AM
+1
 
^ not sure if timezone or trolling
 
I'm -5, but +9 is my jam.
 
@IGoBest why +9?
 
Japan
 
I used to live there and want to move back :(
 
6:46 AM
not sure if timezone or smiley :)
 
I like living in the future.
 
well, Quill lives 15 hours in the future compared to you, 1hr compared to Japan
 
Oh, is he in Australia?
 
Yes
 
yeah
 
6:47 AM
great thing about my timezone is no DST
 
TIL kangaroos can review code
 
I live in the daylight saving time of timezones.
 
@aditsu same as AEST
 
I live in timezone savings timezone
 
No DST really should just be the standard.
It's a huge waste of time.
 
6:48 AM
@AlexA. define timezone savings timezone
 
Even though it's supposed to be saving it.
 
@Upgoat Nah
 
@IGoBest No it isn't
 
@AlexA. ?
 
@mınxomaτ Well I know, but for pun's sake it is.
 
6:49 AM
@Upgoat You told me to define it and I refused. :P
For Pun's Sake: The Geobits Story
 
@Upgoat It a timezone which saves you the hassle of havin a timezone. I.e. UTC.
 
UTC is a timezone. Just ask Python's datetime module.
 
@AlexA. That's depressingly accurate :/
 
@IGoBest <3
 
Yes, I'd say it's 2/10, so less than three.
 
6:52 AM
@AlexA. is it always 3pm in a TST?
 
No, it's always party time in TST
 
@AlexA. And the time changes every 6 to 8 weeks.
 
@mınxomaτ Stop.
Hammer time.
 
Oooo oo o o
 
@AlexA. Managers Sofa Ark: The Nineteenth Byte Story
 
6:54 AM
Managers sofa ark? o_O
 
Think anagrams >_>
 
^_^
 
Highly related to the replied-to message
 
@IGoBest Ninth Bent Eyeteeth
 
Ewwww....
I don't even know what has nine eyeteeth, much less nine bent ones.
Whatever it is, I don't want to meet it in an alley.
 
6:58 AM
Hey Benin Teeth Tent
 
@IGoBest eyetooth
 
Benin is a very phallic country.
 
@Upgoat No, I know what an eyetooth is. I don't know anything with nine bent ones.
 
but
 
@mınxomaτ ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
 
6:59 AM
it probably isn't alive
it's probably just someone's bent eyetooth collection
 
Again, would not want to meet anyone who has a bent eyetooth collection.
I'm pretty sure teeth aren't supposed to bend.
 
They aren't?
 
@Upgoat not sure what you mean by TST, but here it's a place
 
You need to go to the dentist. Like right now.
 
@aditsu Tiny Slammin' Teahouse
 
7:01 AM
@aditsu Timezone Savings Time
 
Tito's Steak & tacos
 
Tsim Sha Tsui (Chinese: 尖沙咀/尖沙嘴; Cantonese pronunciation: [tsiːm˥ saː˥ tsɵy˨˥]), often abbreviated as TST, is an urban area in southern Kowloon, Hong Kong. The area is administratively part of the Yau Tsim Mong District. Tsim Sha Tsui East is a piece of land reclaimed from the Hung Hom Bay now east of Tsim Sha Tsui. The area is bounded north by Austin Road and in the east by Hong Chong Road and Cheong Wan Road. Geographically, Tsim Sha Tsui is a cape on the tip of the Kowloon Peninsula pointing towards Victoria Harbour, opposite Central. Several villages had been established in this location before...
 
wait
my bad, TST
wait
In computer science, a ternary search tree is a type of trie (sometimes called a prefix tree) where nodes are arranged in a manner similar to a binary search tree, but with up to three children rather than the binary tree's limit of two. Like other prefix trees, a ternary search tree can be used as an associative map structure with the ability for incremental string search. However, ternary search trees are more space efficient compared to standard prefix trees, at the cost of speed. Common applications for ternary search trees include spell-checking and auto-completion. == Description == Each...
 
For Pun's Sake: The Geobits Story -> Outposts A Fee Be Sorry Knights
 
or this:
In mathematical logic, New Foundations (NF) is an axiomatic set theory, conceived by Willard Van Orman Quine as a simplification of the theory of types of Principia Mathematica. Quine first proposed NF in a 1937 article titled "New Foundations for Mathematical Logic"; hence the name. Much of this entry discusses NFU, an important variant of NF due to Jensen (1969) and exposited in Holmes (1998). In 1940 and 1951 Quine introduced an extension of NF sometimes called "Mathematical Logic" or "ML", that included classes as well as sets. New Foundations has a universal set, so it is a non well founded...
 
7:05 AM
Did chat just flip out for anyone else?
 
nope
 
Judging by the starboard, nobody and everyone should be using javascript. everyone & nobody == nobody
 
7:26 AM
hahaha
 
wonder if I can find the "after" scene :p
 
 
3 hours later…
10:09 AM
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Q: Does the water ultimately reach the tank?

zyabin101In the ASCII art world, there is water, hash walls and letter mechanisms. You are in a room made up of hash walls (# signs): ####### # # # # # # # ### # # # ####### You install an S water source (S sign) and an E water tank (E sign) which can receive water from any direction, ...

 
10:43 AM
4 hours ago, by Upgoat
everyone should be using JavaScript
4 hours ago, by Alex A.
Nobody should be using JavaScript
I think we are a little confused. :P
 
needs help here
 
@Upgoat with what?
I can't help too much, it is 2:52am here.
I was feeding the same cat in my profile pic.
@AlexA. ಠ_ಠ
I like python 2.
And I don't like python3.
 
11:45 AM
Pro tip: all cases where Markdown refuses to do what you want can be solved by inserting more zero-width spaces.
3
 
 
2 hours later…
1:22 PM
@AlexA. now I am, why?
 
1:33 PM
scripting in batch is a purge...
 
2:09 PM
@Dennis I figured out what's going wrong.
I used a random old binary of the program that checks test cases that was laying around
Turns out it's a bugged one that always says the test succeeded even if it didn't
 
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Q: Write a Chat Ping Counter

MaltysenYour task is to write a program, that given a list of chat messages, count how many times each person gets pinged, so I can know how popular everyone is. But, since I have to do it surreptitiously, I need it to be as small as possible so I can hide the code. Specs The input comes in a list of...

 
@tac you don't need to ping me twice when I already get one from the @Doorknob in your comment :P
 
It's got the [code-golf] tag. That's an objective winning criterion, isn't it?
 
tac
@Doorknob I'm never sure what causes someone to get a notification, sorry
 
2:21 PM
@tac pings in comments and chat :)
 
tac
I thought the last sentence was overly vague, so I changed it to be clearer
 
Characters is no vaguer than bytes. It's just a different (mostly worse) measure.
 
tac
@Doorknob is it still a dupe of codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/3815/… ?
 
IMO no, but if 5 people decide it is I won't overrule it
 
2:38 PM
why are there two posts, suggesting the same thing, and one gets tons of support, the other gets lots of resistance:
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A: We're not a Q&A site. But what should be done about it?

Alex A.Increase the "Ask Question" Privilege Threshold to +2 I should note that I'm not convinced that this is a good idea but I figure I'll mention it to see how others feel. On Q&A sites, the point of posting a question is to get help, to ask a question and get an answer. There shouldn't be a barrie...

1
Q: Rep requirement for asking

CatsAreFluffyThere's always some question or another on hold with a few downvotes on main, and they are usually created by users with 1 reputation. So if there was a small reputation requirement (eg 10) for making a question, this would be fixed. Would this be a good idea?

the only difference I see is the Threshold (2 vs 10)
I think I attribute this to the mod effect
 
@Sp3000 How do you handle zero-size patterns inside * in Slip?
 
@NathanMerrill I've been meaning to write up a good "no" answer to the second, but haven't gotten around to it.
 
@NathanMerrill I noticed this too, and you might be right. I think, without speaking of mods, you could say it's the "high rep" effect, despite the fact that
 
mod/high rep effect
high reps get mod powers anyways
so they're basically mods :P
 
mod-lite :D
 
2:42 PM
@IGoBest There's already a "no" that has 7 upvotes
 
@NathanMerrill Doesn't it will change while we will have the mod election?
 
yesterday, by Doorknob
@AlexA. There's literally no point in posting an answer when all it says is "yes" or "no"
 
@NathanMerrill Right, but there are several reasons I think "no" is the correct answer, none of which are (very well) explained in that one.
 
@feersum What do you mean by zero size patterns?
 
right, but his 1 sentence seems to cover the core point
but if you have additional points, go ahead :)
 
2:44 PM
@Sp3000 I mean, how do avoid taking the side of the assertion that only turns, instead of matching a character, an unlimited number of times?
 
Oh that - actual (?|) isn't really an assert, it's a do-this-then-reset-pointer
So the # is actually matched. Should fix the explanation
(Slip doesn't have actual asserts, broken language is broken)
 
@feersum It's working. \o/
 
@Sp3000 I see, nice. Worked better than actual asserts here.
 
... for once :P (The lack of actual asserts makes a lot of problems impossible for me actually, but too lazy to fix the language atm. Snails is already the de facto 2D matching language :P)
 

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