The Nineteenth Byte

@quartata I don't like football :P

I am indifferent towards watching sports generally ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

4

A: Implement a Truth-Machine

Simplex v.0.8, 3 bytes Try it here! i¦o i ~~ take input ¦ ~~ repeat next character until zero byte met o ~~ output character

@El'endiaStarman @VoteToClose

dat weird puppy monkey baby commercial O_O

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Yea, nothing about that made me want to buy a kickstart.

it was terrifying O_O

12:05 AM

nice incorporation of memes into your commercial, Taco Bell

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ then why are you watching the game lmao

anyways

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I've already upvoted this

@quartata It exhibits American culture, think of how many millions of people from all backgrounds are sitting down enjoying the game. It's fascinating for that kind of reason alone

@quartata I'm not. It's playing in the background

@quartata I know. It's an old answer.

I know a lot of people that watch for reasons not relating to football.

I suppose it's worth watching for the weird commercials

12:07 AM

more equal-length joy:

I'm kind of only glancing at the TV to watch the commercials right now

number
string
regexp

FGTD

!

FGTDXP

12:08 AM

@Cyoce regexp

Which raises questions like "If you're paying $5 million for an ad, why make it super weird and strange?"

Sticks in people's memory.

Why is each scoring event two bytes? That isn't very golfy.

@Geobits Agreed

You can't risk a bland, uninteresting ad that gets you very little revenue.

@Geobits Because this.

12:09 AM

What does everyone think about tags for:

9

Q: Apply Kirchhoff's law

Kirchhoff's law says that when you sum up all the currents (positive for the currents going to a junction, and negative for current leaving a junction), you will always get as result 0. Look at the following diagram: Using Kirchhoff's law, you can see that i1 + i4 - i2 - i3 = 0, so i1 + i4 = ...

Yea, if you're paying $5M, you need it to be memorable if nothing else.

?

@Cyoce record for array :3

@El'endiaStarman No, I know. I'm just saying it's bad ;)

:P

12:10 AM

It's physics electrical-engineering in genre, but we don't need any physics or electrical engineering knowledge to sum two arrays and take the difference.

@Geobits FCK u

:D

@ThomasKwa array-manipulation?

invalid argument: u

number
string
regexp
record   (Conor's)
object

12:11 AM

@Adnan I think array-manipulation alone maybe.

@ThomasKwa That seems right

I think one of the genre tags and array-manipulation would be good

What are tags for, anyway? Are we supposed to tag questions if they fit the genre, but don't require any knowledge?

If people wanted to find a challenge about Kirchoff's Law they'd probably look for electrical engineering tagged challenges

My rule of thumb is: use whatever tags would make it easy for someone to find out if a certain challenge has been done before

@quartata Or search for it directly.

12:13 AM

@ThomasKwa True but I meant for a more general case. The title could be not an exact match

# number literal
	ended by a space
	! for minus sign / exponential notation
	? for decimal point

Nothing more obvious than ? for a decimal point?

code-golf string number math sequence code-challenge kolmogorov-complexity

Holy shit Martin hit 80k rep

4

Martin Büttner ♦, (not quite) Munich, Germany

80k 29 194 459

@Cyoce So #5!4 = 5000 and #!?32!!-2 = -0.0032?

@Geobits special characters terminate a number literal and execute their operation. since ? and ! are conditionals, they can be in a number literal because you are hardcoding the number in. It would be like putting if(true) in a code golf question.

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ nope, it uses base 64 or base 60 (haven't decided yet)

12:17 AM

Oh. but conceptually?

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ yeah approximately

@quartata we already congratulated him and its already off the starboard

@Calvin'sHobbies Oh I didn't notice

@Cyoce Oh.

Hmm. I have so many things I want to work on that I can't choose what to do

12:21 AM

@quartata Roll d100, see what happens

I guess I'll make a strawpoll and let random strangers choose for me

I have a d20 at work for this reason

That and fights with my coworker when code is compiling

@quartata What the heckkkk.

I no longer have a piano, but I want to try. ._.

@Lynn It makes the C string reverberate, so you can hear a very faint C note after the G.

@quartata You mean the 3rd harmonic, right?

12:22 AM

That’s cool. Does it only work with harmonics?

@Lynn Yeah.

(as opposed to the fifth above?)

@ThomasKwa yes sorry

I actually don't have access to a real piano atm :P

I wonder if that would work on a guitar

If only keyboards emulated pianos as accurately as emulators emulate, like, Game Boys

12:24 AM

@quartata I think you mean a fifth below

10-0 at the end of the first quarter...

Razor with a mustache.

@ThomasKwa No I'm pretty sure it's a fifth above

I could almost test that, but my guitar is downstairs, and untuned, and it’s past midnight

The 3rd harmonic of the F is the 2nd harmonic of the C.

12:24 AM

@Doorknob FGTDXP

10 TO 0

Great now I can't remember

A G 1.5 octaves above doesn't have any Cs in its harmonic profile.

I guess Broncos are capital letters then

I thought they were like horses or something

12:25 AM

I should do more music making~

@AlexA. Also a type of car I think

You'd hear the G ring as the 3rd harmonic of the C, but not a C.

I just tried it on my piano.

@Doorknob Which was named after the horse.

I still stand by my reasoning, even though the team I'm "rooting" for is now losing:

[5:52:47 PM] Eric: who are y’all rooting for?
[5:52:54 PM] Keyboard Fire: ok so here's my reasoning
[5:52:57 PM] Keyboard Fire: panthers are cats
[5:52:59 PM] Keyboard Fire: broncos are horses
[5:53:04 PM] Keyboard Fire: cats are definitely way cuter than horses
[5:53:07 PM] Keyboard Fire: so, go panthers I guess

12:26 AM

> hourse

It's a house-shaped horse

@ThomasKwa I feel really dumb now

Trojan Hourse

How important is this football game on a 1–10 scale

@Doorknob A horse disguised as a house?

@Lynn -1

12:27 AM

@ThomasKwa It's hard to keep up with commentary and other conversations.

Qwertial Aphasia? :P

Assuming you mean in the grand scheme of things.

If you mean in the context of football yeah it's important I guess

Nah, in the football scheme of things

OK then yes it's important

12:28 AM

I mean, in the grand scheme of things it is still maybe a 2. Sports are a big deal

Happy 10k @Maltysen!

5

I don’t want to sleeeeep, 19B. ;—;

Once I get to 10k, I'll be sure that people will notice :P

Yaay happy 10k

12:31 AM

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I'll beat you to 10k hopefully

Oh right I remember what I wanted to do today

I wanted to get off my ass and type up the 10 million challenges I have planned

FGTDXPtd

ooooh

@quartata 6654 rep on me.

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ If I actually cared I could probably gain 2k rep in a week or so

FGTDXPtdxp

12:32 AM

@quartata Same here.

fggttggssdfgsdf

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ rly

2k rep in a week

XD

with a 200 rep cap each day

12:32 AM

> in a week or so

oh

@Adnan bounties and accepted answers

I have a bunch of sandboxed challenges.

gimme da bounty

Should I use base 60 or base 64? 64 lets you store bigger numbers (obviously), but 60 is a highly composite number, meaning that there are more fractions that can be expressed without repeating decimals, along with other nice properties

12:34 AM

60 sounds fresh and interesting

64 is just hexadecimal on crack

2

Bud Light: "everyone likes beer." [citation-needed]

@Cyoce I thought you already had base-60 literals in Platypar :P

Anyways yeah go for base 60

@quartata I'm reworking it :P

That sweet 3D reconstruction must've taken incredible engineering.

Nice 64 stars

12:37 AM

@Lynn XD

Should’ve bolded it

149472 Avocados.

6

Now I just need one person to star that

It’s beautiful ;w;

Oh, by the way, has nobody posted this yet

The Super Bowl is actually an elaborate ruse, concocted by a shadowy group in the mid sixties for this purpose. The 'watch it for the ads' addition was a master stroke.

6

(relevant)

@Doorknob hahahahaha

@AlexA. I tried avocados today. Pretty good!!

Q: The state of the underhanded tag

@Lynn Have you never had an avocado before?

New Meta Posts

12:40 AM

0

The title slightly influenced by The state of the popularity contest tag I recently looked at the underhanded tag and noticed that all 3 of the newest questions are closed as "Too Broad". From our new rules for popularity contests it would seem that underhanded may be off topic, because it is ...

discussion questions scope challenge-quality underhanded

I’d had guacamole, which doesn’t really count

i ned avocad

@Lynn It can sort of count if it's good guacamole that's well made.

I don't want to brag, but I make some pretty legit guacamole.

@Lynn YES. YES. YES.

that sounds way too weird

12:43 AM

alex intensifies

3

AVoCAD juIc such delicus

2

Geez, this is an intense game.

somebody needs to do an avocad language

Don't tempt me.

;)

12:48 AM

@Quill AVODAD NO JUIC

i try sinamon role but hand get stick

4

Avocode Juic apparently popular

> Jelly, <s>17</s> <s>12</s> <s>8</s> 3 bytes

Martin Buttner and the Blowfish plz

@NewMetaPosts I honestly had no idea there were underhanded non-popcon challenges.

Someone should probably edit that question a bit since:

JUICR(ITEM){
   ITEM NO JUIC THROW NOJUICEXCEPTION
   WHILE(NO JUIC){
       HOW JUIC ITEM
   }
}
JUICR "AVOCAD"

12:50 AM

> From our new rules for popularity contests it would seem that underhanded may be off topic.

> popularity contests

FGTDXPtdxpFG

PhiNotPi

TRY FOR 1 HOUR {
    ...
} BUT NO JUIC {
    ...
}

@PhiNotPi haha

@Doorknob hahahahahahahaha

Game status:

PPCG Super Bowl Commentary

A special kind of nerdy

12:53 AM

Is there a new Juice language or something?

It's in the works

6 mins ago, by Quill

somebody needs to do an avocad language

@Downgoat if you want it to be

@Quill oh

YOU CAN STREAM THE PUPPY BOWL LIVE

> Flash plugin missing

Get the latest Flash player to view this content

ಠ_ಠ

12:56 AM

Why is someone using Flash in 2016

Sounds like you need to get the latest Flash player to view that content.

@Downgoat ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Inertia, insufficient shits given, etc.

@Downgoat because someone has a newgrounds fetish

Can anyone figure out why this doesn't work: convert downgoat1.jpg -fill white -font Impact -pointsize 22 caption:"Downgoat" png:-

@Quill Super Mario Bros Z is an amazing series. So sad the creator probably won't do any more.

Antman and Hulk, Coca-Cola? ಠ_ಠ

1:00 AM

@Downgoat maybe you need 2 dashes? --fill

no

We need some new superheroes. Hulk, TMNT overused..

0

A: Implement a Truth-Machine

DUP, 12 bytes [[$.$][$.]#] Try it here! Anonymous lambda. Usage: 0[[$.$][$.]#]! or 1[[$.$][$.]#]! Explanation [ {start lambda} [$.$] {output inputnum and check if it's truthy} [$.] {only output inputnum if previous condition is true} # {while-loop p...

MOAR DUP!

@Cyoce nope, still doesn't work :(

@Calvin'sHobbies I noominate alex

1:02 AM

@Calvin'sHobbies Have you seen Ant Man?

no

> noominate

@Cyoce I acept yor noominatin.

hahaha

@ӍѲꝆΛҐӍΛПҒЦꝆ what's DUP

1:04 AM

@Downgoat DUP = Don't Understand Pears

Google is telling me DUP = Democratic Unionist Party

Don't Underestimate Potatoes

Door Under Plane

Drink Ukrainian Pizza

ballesta25

I thought it was a close reason.

1:05 AM

@Quill ...

DUP Undulating Prize

Can someone spam "Hello", "Hi", and "Hey" in Chatgoats Barn so I can test if Chatgoat handle's rate limiting correctly?

@Doorknob my eyes hurt

:D

@Downgoat Forgot link (updated)

Wait wat happen to ur smallcaps

1:07 AM

@AlexA. Verdict on NeoVim: 10/10 better than vim

@Doorknob I get the feeling that pizza in Ukraine is a little different than in other countries.

@ӍѲꝆΛҐӍΛПҒЦꝆ s/smallcaps/DoNG/

@Doorknob :O REALLY?!?!

oh wait

You changed your small caps to the word "dong"?

Dong goat?

1:08 AM

You lost your dong?

@AlexA. I have seen the light :P

\o/

What have you found about it that you think puts it above Vim?

@Downgoat There's nothing dong with smallcaps.

:)

Note that it's currently a bug that interactivity with :! is broken

Punz

@AlexA. That looks like :| with a mole.

1:10 AM

lel

^^

Hilarious Prius commercial.

@ӍѲꝆΛҐӍΛПҒЦꝆ I had to removed the smallcaps so unicode issues wouldn't make me dong

@El'endiaStarman haha, yeah

@Downgoat oic

1:11 AM

@Downgoat :(

Feb 2 at 23:25, by Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

Jan 2 at 17:23, by Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

Dec 27 '15 at 20:58, by Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

@Dennis I'm a dong :O

Also, Bud Light cribs from Independence Day and then commercial for new Independence Day shows up. Coincidence? :P

Hello, World! @VoteToClose @El'endiaStarman

How ugly is that color scheme?

It's decent.

1:13 AM

oh shit it's a creeper!

tsssss~~~

AHHHHHHHH

nvm #MCPTSD

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ There's no code.

@Downgoat It isn't

1:14 AM

@AlexA. :D

@El'endiaStarman In that case, I'm about 90% sure that if you click Run it'll be a rickroll.

@El'endiaStarman <--

I still don't like the green on the bottom left though...

@El'endiaStarman Press load.

@AlexA. It actually wasn't.

Empty program produces 0. :P

1:14 AM

:O

0 is the new rickroll

@AlexA. Oh please. I only rickroll on Jolf.

@Doorknob zero.com.sg

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Nice.

@El'endiaStarman Thanks :D

bbl restarting computer

1:18 AM

13 TO 7 still (FGTDXPtdxpFG)

@Downgoat Those are pretty nice shades of green

Half time.

Today I learned: keeping up a running commentary really makes a game go by fast. :P

I've been busy messing with my vim configuration. Because that's totally a thing I should be doing instead of watching the Super Bowl. :P

@Doorknob yes

When I switched to NeoVim I also switched to VimPlug for all of my plugins and it's awesome.

oh really? Exact same for me

[vim, pathogen] -> [neovim, vim-plug]

1:23 AM

Oh hey, local commercial.

Well whatever I was going to do today has been thrown out the window because CS:GO is calling to me

Multiple local commercials. I wonder if that specific time was reserved for local commercials everywhere.

Same here

@quartata what rank are you?

@Quill I haven't gotten enough XP to play comp

1:26 AM

wow srs

comp is where it's at

I know but I'm too lazy to grind arms race to get the XP

@quartata ಠ_ಠ

>tfw they'll never understand being put with four players who don't speak your language and kick you for trying

@Cyoce If you we're there during Bloodhound (or didn't get the pass), it's still a grind to get to level 3 =P

@Roujo I came before the XP system :P

1:29 AM

me too

@Cyoce Well yeah, but you still had to play to get to L3 even if you were there before, no?

there was no level 3, or levels in general (besides comp rank)

@Roujo nope

I meant once the XP was out

@Cyoce I only have 25 hours :P

1:30 AM

I was in the beta, I know that there was no requirement to get in comp before

no, once levels came out, we didn't have to play to get to 3

(plus 12 hours in CS:S)

That's odd

My brother had the game from before as well, but he can't play comp now

Although I guess that might be because he wasn't ranked

I tried to play CS1.6 the other night, and my cursor was screwed

@Roujo probably that

Valve works in mysterious ways

So it goes

I don't play enough to keep my rank anyway =P

1:35 AM

how is babby formed?

0

A: Print the ASCII table

DUP, 21 bytes [1+a:0[$1+$a;<][^,]#] Try it here! Anonymous lambda. Usage: 256[1+a:0[$1+$a;<][^,]#]! Explanation [ {start lambda} 1+a: {inputnum is end of range (saved to a)} 0 {0 is start of range} [ ][ ]# {while loop}...

EVEN MOAR DUP

:( half time was good until beyonce

Duplicated Ugly Python

Depressingly UnderPowered

@Quill wtaf

1:39 AM

Dem Ugly Patterns

Dirty Under Pants

Down Under Paris

@Quill the shit that gets greenlighted these days I swear

Don't Uninstall Python

Dead Unless Passive

1:42 AM

Doorknob's Uncooperative PC

ಠ_ಠ

Coldplay, Bruno Mars, or Beyonce?

I liked Coldplay

Beyonc~ay! Duh! :)

(loljk Coldplay)

None of the above.

1:44 AM

they should've had the screaming goat perform. better than those three IMO

@Doorknob :D cc @ӍѲꝆΛҐӍΛПҒЦꝆ

@El'endiaStarman If you had to choose.

Music: Coldplay
Choreography: Bruno
Consolation: Beyonce

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....hmm.

@Geobits Consolation, heh

@Geobits I agree completely.

Coldplay is one of my favorite bands.

1:46 AM

That's because I'm the Anti-Alex.

I bought a copy of Coldplay's latest album a few days after it came out

good stuff

Viva la Vida is legit my favorite song

Whoever was mixing probably should have raised the volume on all three leads' mics, though. Every one of them was drowned out a bit.

Well, all I know of Coldplay and Bruno Mars are the covers of Paradise by the Piano Guys and Alex Boye and Grenade by the Salt Lake Pops Orchestra, Lindsey Stirling, and Alex Boye, respectively.

@El'endiaStarman Ah, I see.

1:49 AM

And both are really good covers...

@Geobits Yeah, disappointing on that aspect. Also, whoever was hiring shouldn't have hired beyonce. Twerking the audience is in no way appealing.