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6:00 PM
I need to work on my language now.
 
USE FAX MACHINE
 
@Calvin'sHobbies The difference punctuation makes. :P
 
@Geobits ^^
 
@Geobits There aren't any Fedex Offices nearby?
 
@Geobits Staples, Office Depot, etc...?
 
6:00 PM
@RikerW Fax? You mean like those things that are built into printers in any modern setting? Yea...
@quartata I tried the UPS store, but they're "backlogged". Didn't know FedEx did it. I'll try them or El'Endia's suggestions next I ugess.
 
@Geobits FedEx Office used to be Kinko's. They have tons of printers I'd try there
That's usually where I go if I need color prints
 
Cool, thanks.
 
@Calvin'sHobbies I need to change my name now
 
My dad uses the local Staples to print out ~60 sheets of lyrics for worship at a local homeless ministry.
 
6:03 PM
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

quartataChallenge about advacado Inspired by this. No avocados were harmed in the making of this challenge. Hello I have challenge I need help juic an avocado so I need program to tell me how long to juic avocad for Through rigorous scientific experiments on ASCII art avocados such as this one: #...

any more thoughts
 
time to relearn CJam \:D/
 
@El'endiaStarman I assume I can just bring in a thumb drive? I've never had zero printers available before >_>;
 
@Geobits Just bring the file over on a thumb drive.
 
@Geobits That's how he does it.
 
@Geobits Fedex Office stores have self service copiers (and computers if necessary).
 
6:04 PM
^
 
@quartata i try for OUR and no juic
 
Ok, well I guess I'll go sort out my not-really-a-problem problem then. Thanks again :)
 
chalenj say MINUT
 
Also the people behind the counter are pretty helpful. I needed a print on custom paper once and they helped me out
 
lier
 
6:05 PM
@Doorknob the original question clearly says minut
big avocads take ours
 
@Geobits Though you need debit/credit card to use the machines easily (you can probably pay cash at the desk but thats more hassle)
 
@Doorknob instrictuons uncler, avocad stack in ceilling Fan.
 
What's cash?
 
green slips of paper
 
metal and paper money thingies
 
6:05 PM
Is it just me or did the strawpoll font change?
 
@quartata Except they're not so green anymore.
 
Ooooh right. 'Cash'. I've heard of that, now that I think about it.
 
@quartata And they ain't paper
 
can exchang "cash" for avodad ?
 
@TimmyD Hitchhiker's Guide to The Galaxy reference
@Doorknob yes give social security number and bank account number for avodad
 
6:07 PM
is nigeria avodad?
 
Nigerian avocados are the best.
 
yes best avocads come from nigeria
 
Please purchase 419 of them.
 
@Doorknob I legitimately didn't know that was a thing
 
6:08 PM
i didnt neethur but i gogled it
 
prince feast on many avodad
 
why all avodac? why no starfrui?
 
Any serious comments on my avocado challenge?
@Calvin'sHobbies i love starfruit
 
@Calvin'sHobbies sinmun role secon best juic but make hand stick
 
Surprisingly difficult to get a picture of all new dollar bills.
But I found one!
 
6:09 PM
@El'endiaStarman I saw one of the new dollar bills a couple weeks ago and thought it was counterfeit for a second
 
@El'endiaStarman Why does Ben Franklin have a honey pot?
 
100 is the max?
 
@Optimizer yes
 
@Optimizer In common circulation, yes.
 
@Calvin'sHobbies Pretty sure it's an inkwell
 
6:10 PM
I think there are 500 and 1000 dollar bills.
 
Oh cool, I found an old 128MB flash drive in my desk. Perfect for this task.
 
they are given to whom? and how does one know ig they are real?
 
@quartata The € is currently changing it's bills, too. You could literally pay with counterfeit and no one would notice, because the new bills are so drastically different and the equipment hasn't been updated yet.
 
@Optimizer They have watermarks if you hold them up to a light, and probably higher tech stuff now too
 
The base currency of the United States is the U.S. dollar. It is printed in bills in seven denominations: $1, $2, $5, $10, $20, $50, and $100. Previously there have also been five larger denominations: $500, $1,000, $5,000, and $10,000 were printed for general use (in large transactions), and a $100,000 bill for certain internal transactions. == Overview and history == High-denomination currency (i.e., banknotes with a negotiable face value of $500 or higher) had been used in the United States since the late 18th century. The first $500 note was issued by the Province of North Carolina, authorized...
 
6:11 PM
@Calvin'sHobbies also the color changing ink on >=$20
 
@quartata As in you use a marker on them and see if it changes color?
I think it's supposed to go to brown or black?
 
More colors! =D
 
@El'endiaStarman No you tilt the bill
 
Are they polymer, too?
 
It changes color depending on how the light is hitting it
 
6:13 PM
Ah, that too. Well, cashiers usually have a marker for the purpose of identifying counterfeit $20+ bills.
 
@Optimizer there's $1 and $2 as well, but $100 is a fair amount to carry around
 
> Although they are still technically legal tender in the United States, high-denomination bills were last printed on December 27, 1945, and officially discontinued on July 14, 1969, by the Federal Reserve System, supposedly due to 'lack of use'. The $5,000 and $10,000 effectively disappeared well before then. // The Federal Reserve began taking high-denomination bills out of circulation (destroying bills received by banks) in 1969, after an executive order by President Nixon.
 
@Calvin'sHobbies Yep, that.
 
> Thief Buy1get1FREE
What a nice deal. I've always wanted two thieves.
2
 
6:15 PM
ahh, the oneboxhorror
 
Those pens are pretty bogus, all they do is perform an iodine test to tell the starch content.
 
so are buy one get one free theives
 
@TimmyD Why is that bogus?
 
They're also notorious for false-negatives (positives?). This is confusing.
 
false positive for detecting fake notes
and true negatives
false negative and true positive means the check is fine
 
6:17 PM
In this case, a color change is a positive.
So the color changing on a legitimate bill would be a false positive.
 
right
and not changing on fake note is true negative
 
It provides a pretty big false sense of security.
 
@Optimizer Hmm, no. It'd be a false negative.
 
There have been documented instances of cashiers just blindly accepting the pen test without actually looking at the bills themselves.
 
@El'endiaStarman no
 
@TimmyD I'm guessing the deterrence may be more valuable.
 
its like "expected, actual"
 
@Optimizer Yes? The test ends up negative (no reaction) when it should have been positive, so it's a false negative
 
@Optimizer If a color change is a positive, no color change is a negative. If a bill is counterfeit, the color should change. When it doesn't, that's a false negative.
 
6:20 PM
@El'endiaStarman that's so cool!
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Yeah. :D
 
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

quartataChallenge about advacado Inspired by this. No avocados were harmed in the making of this challenge. Hello I have challenge I need help juic an avocado so I need program to tell me how long to juic avocad for Through rigorous scientific experiments on ASCII art avocados such as this one: #...

 
A true negative would be a legit bill that doesn't change color, as it should.
 
@El'endiaStarman so by that logic, on a fake note, if color changes, its false positive?
 
Probably oughta clarify it's ~20 men with 3 (sometimes 4) sheets of lyrics per person.
 
6:21 PM
I'm starting to sound like a broken record but I'd really like to know if this spec is OK
 
@Optimizer That's a true positive. It should change, and it did.
 
@Optimizer No, true positive.
 
@Roujo No, a true negative inverts the colors of the bill.
 
Positive/negative refers to the result of the test. True/false refers to whether that was the right result.
 
@mınxomaτ My head hurts =P
 
6:22 PM
@Roujo I have a pen for that.
 
@Roujo by that logic, for a fake note, if color should change and it didnt, it should be "true negative"
 
@Optimizer @El'endiaStarman outlined the logic just now.
 
@Calvin'sHobbies I really wonder why amazon oneboxes are a thing
 
In medical testing, and more generally in binary classification, a false positive is an error in data reporting in which a test result improperly indicates presence of a condition, such as a disease (the result is positive), when in reality it is not, while a false negative is an error in which a test result improperly indicates no presence of a condition (the result is negative), when in reality it is present. These are the two kinds of errors in a binary test (and are contrasted with a correct result, either a true positive or a true negative.) They are also known in medicine as a false positive...
It has nothing to do with the fact that the colors are inverted or not - that's coincidental because it's how the test works
 
@quartata The better question is: why doesn't github onebox anymore? :( o.c
 
6:26 PM
The test is a function that returns true/false. In this case, the test is "Is it a fake"
 
@quartata So others can see what useful items you bought.
 
"Positive result" means that the test indicates that it's a fake. "Negative result" → test says the note is legit
A positive result on a legit note is wrong, hence a false positive
A negative result on a fake note is wrong, hence a false negative
 
Well, with a test that has two states - no change and change - the former is negative and the latter is positive.
A pregnancy test is the same way.
Well, no, actually it's not.
Well, the readout isn't, but what it looks for is.
 
@El'endiaStarman It is however useless for detecting counterfeit bills (but detects counterfeit pregnancies just fine).
 
As I am not a female, I'm going to research this to make sure I get this right. :P
> Markers that indicate pregnancy are found in urine and blood, and pregnancy tests require sampling one of these substances.
Yep, I remembered right. The absence of these markers is a negative, and the presence is a positive.
 
6:30 PM
@El'endiaStarman So if you get a Sharpie through IV, you're pregnant?
 
omg this is so weird I'm getting logged out every ~3 minutes ._.
 
> What an oddly specific number.
 
@mınxomaτ It's happened ~16 times.
:P
 
Speaking of counterfeits, this is one way that image manipulation programs know when you're trying to edit currency:
The EURion constellation (also known as Omron rings or doughnuts) is a pattern of symbols incorporated into a number of banknote designs worldwide since about 1996. It is added to help imaging software detect the presence of a banknote in a digital image. Such software can then block the user from reproducing banknotes to prevent counterfeiting using color photocopiers. Research shows that the EURion constellation is used for color photocopiers but probably not used in computer software. However, there have been reported incidents where Adobe Photoshop doesn't allow the editing of banknotes upon...
 
6:32 PM
@quartata I can't comment :( "Also, which of these are valid?"
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ The third one is not valid because it has 2 pits. The rest are OK, although the first one juices instantly :P
Actually wait
The first one is not valid
It has no pit
So only 2 and 4 are valid
 
So, the pit must be nonempty?
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ There is no pit in that one.
So it isn't valid.
A pit could be empty, but in this case it's a part of the avocado exterior because they are right next to each other
 
#####
#   #
#   #
#####

 ##
 ##
Avocad and pit?
oh wait
 
Not valid, only one avocado can be given at a time. Also no pit
 
6:35 PM
@El'endiaStarman Yeah, I was pretty excited when I learned about that. I could find it on both old and new Canadian dollar bills that I had, and I had not noticed it before ^^
 
@quartata So the borders can be arbitrarily thick?
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Yes
 
######
# ## #
# ## #
######
Would that be valid?
 
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

ZgarbHollow out an array code-golf array-manipulation The task This challenge is very simple. Your input is a rectangular 2D array of integers, sized at least 1×1. It can be taken in any reasonable format. Your output shall be the input array, but with all entries not on the first or last row or ...

 
@Zgarb Yes.
 
6:37 PM
So my righteous avocad is valid?
############
############
############
###      ###
### #### ###
### #  # ###
###  ##  ###
###      ###
###      ###
############
############
############
 
Yes that is valid
Although you won't get a lot of juice
 
How about my holy one?
############
############
############
###      ###
### #### ###
### #  # ###
###  ##  ###
###      ###
###      ###
############
#          #
############
No bc two pits?
 
Err
Yeah that would be two pits
 
############
############

############
###      ###
### #### ###
### #  # ###
###  ##  ###
###      ###
###      ###
############

############
############
What about that?
 
6:38 PM
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Multiple avocados not valid
 
There aren't multiple, only one.
The other "two" are invalid.
 
Still multiple avocados
No invalid input will ever be passed anyways
 
@RikerW What about it?
@quartata Oh, okay.
 
Hmm I just realized that the time formula would be more interesting if it involved the thickness of the avocado
 
Okay, last one:
 
6:39 PM
Eh
 
############
############
############
###      ###
### #### ###
### #  # ###
### #  # ###
### #  # ###
### #  # ###
############
############
############
 
Valid.
 
@quartata That would get complicated really quickly.
 
That avocado would be juiced in 104 minutes and would give 32 fl oz of juice.
What a shitty avocado
4
 
How do you tell where the pit is?
 
6:42 PM
Question: I have a recursive function that does stuff based off of the case values. Is it possible to make it a closed (?) function?
 
@feersum The pit is any shape of # inside the avocado that doesn't touch all sides of the avocado exterior
Ideally the way to parse this would be to take it row by row
 
I don't follow
Where is it in @CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ's example?
 
@feersum I have like ten
 
probably the last one.
 
The last one.
 
6:43 PM
###
# #
# #
# #
# #
 
but that does touch the edge?
 
@anOKsquirrel It doesn't touch all the edges
 
What are the sides of the exterior?
 
If it touched all the edges it would be part of the avocado exterior
 
@quartata Ohh.
 
6:44 PM
@feersum In this particular example?
Or in general?
 
Yes
 
Very specific
 
any example
 
Hmm
 
Neither region of spaces borders either the leftmost or rightmost column of #.
 
6:47 PM
That's not what I meant
OK. The avocado exterior consists of the #s that are the first and last non-whitespace characters
I'm going to change the challenge so that the pit must not touch the exterior
 
Still, I imagine pit juice would be gross.
 
OK done.
@feersum is that clearer now?
OK I think it should be all clear now
I edited the post
 
@quartata Not really
 
@feersum Look at the post again
> This avocado consists of an exterior of #s (specifically the first and last sequences of #s on each line) and a pit (a shape of #s in the avocado that does not touch the avocado exterior).
 
By # do yuo mean space?
 
6:56 PM
? I mean #
 
Are there always exactly 2 connected regions of spaces?
 
Yes.
 
That's not clear from the text.
 
If we were in a physics class, it would be "Consider a spherical avocado..."
 
A pit disjoint from the avocado would be considered another avocado
And only one avocado will be passed
I'll make that clear
 
7:02 PM
@TimmyD "...in a friction-less vacuum."
 
@TimmyD This just in: avocados can be substituted by cows with ease
 
for those of us just tuning in what is happeninig in this chat rihgt now
 
@undergroundmonorail juic & avocads & spherical vacuums
 
Interesting problem I've been consumed with for the past two ish days: Say you have 2 instructions, * and /, and a register R with an initial value 0. * sets R = 2R+1 and / sets R = floor(R/3). Write a program/figure out/whatever that calculates constants written in this "language". For example, 3 = ** and 29 = *****/**/*.
 
7:09 PM
avocado topology
7
exciting new field
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I would do it with a program, as calculating it by hand is messy:
                             /
                          /36-109 54-163 81 40-121 60-181 90-271 135 67 33 16-49 24-72
                          |
                       /12-37 18X
                /      |
37 18-55 27 13 6-19 9 4-13X
                \      \
 
> avocad
 
@Zgarb haha
 
could someone throw a few up/downvotes at me? I don't like my rep number
 
7:15 PM
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ you can downvote some things
 
Give me some fuel.
 
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A: Spoonerise words

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'BʀɪᴇɴJavaScript ES6, 93 58 52 bytes Saved 6 bytes thanks to ETHProductions! x=>x.replace(/([^aeiou]+)(.+ )([^aeiou]+)/,"$3$2$1") Test it! (ES6 only) F=x=>x.replace(/([^aeiou]+)(.+ )([^aeiou]+)/,"$3$2$1"); console.log=_=>u.innerHTML+=_; console.log(`plaster man -> master plan blushing c...

 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ notuser:26997
 
Although the onebox kinda ruins the joke =P
 
nice try
16 mins ago, by Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ
Interesting problem I've been consumed with for the past two ish days: Say you have 2 instructions, * and /, and a register R with an initial value 0. * sets R = 2R+1 and / sets R = floor(R/3). Write a program/figure out/whatever that calculates constants written in this "language". For example, 3 = ** and 29 = *****/**/*.
 
I would love to play this game.
 
@Geobits Stop hacking my account! :p
 
@Geobits nice
 
7:27 PM
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Since going from ** to 3 is easy, I assume you're talking about going from 3 to **?
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ It seems like you could just run a tree to find it. Memoize all found, etc.
You could run it in reverse (starting from the target), but you'd need four branches on each step I think, to account for the floor.
I think we have a few similar challenges.
 
7:41 PM
Anyone wanna try this multiplayer no login shooting game? (you need unity web player)
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ n$z(dz=,?.dz`l&"*"O2*1+6@"/"O3:1), 33 bytes
 
@El'endiaStarman Yes.
 
@El'endiaStarman @CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ join room 1 (there's no one else here :/)
 
@El'endiaStarman Input 4 yields output 29
wait nvm
 
Hmm, I need to download Unity web player anyway
 
7:47 PM
@Calvin'sHobbies Sorry, can't.
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Haha, it's an infinite loop.
 
@El'endiaStarman Why?
 
My algorithm is an over/under-shoot algorithm.
 
If less than target, 2R+1. If greater, R//3.
 
7:48 PM
So why doesn't that work for 4?
 
So it goes 0 -> 1 -> 3 -> 7 -> 2 -> 5 -> 1 -> repeat.
 
oh
-1 does not fulfill task :P
 
@Calvin'sHobbies I'd love to, but I'm at work atm =/
 
4 should be *****/**//
 
@feersum was that you killing me 3 times while afk?
 
7:50 PM
no
 
heeeheeehee
 
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Q: Align function arguments on their own lines

DoorknobGiven an input of a string representing a function definition, output the string with newlines and spaces inserted so that the function's arguments are newline-separated and aligned. The input string will follow the following pattern: First, it will start with a prefix, which is always at leas...

 
well, that was a thing
 
oh it restarted, I went afk when we killed eachother
 
i only ever shot the other guy
 
7:59 PM
@El'endiaStarman Could you help me with my tree? I can't seem to get it work.
 
@El'endiaStarman evil
 
Did my avatar leave the room?
 
huh, okay
My computer crashed.
Very likely because of Unity Web Player.
 
8:12 PM
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ sure
 
@Calvin'sHobbies oooh wus dis
 
@quartata Join room1, I'm still in there
 
I don't have Unity Player
 
I switched to Firefox to play it.
 
...and sure enough Unity Player doesn't work with Linux
IIRC unity is so damn lazy that they just used Wine to port their engine to Linux lmao
anyways
 
8:19 PM
its hard to find good no-login remote multiplayer browser games
 
Is there an easy way to look for answers in a given language on a given question? I'm tired of clicking and scrolling through 3-4 pages of answers to see if my idea has been done already =)
 
@Dennis Like rho-jot-rho uparrow?
 
Interesting fact: The @NewSandboxedPosts, @NewMetaPosts, and @NewMainPosts all have a chat id of -393.
 
@Roujo I just use ctrl-f.
 
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Q: Make a New Sandbox Post

VoteToCloseThere are currently 2087 answers in the sandbox: 843 and counting challenges in the making, and 1244 deleted. I'm sure that many of you who can see deleted posts that the Sandbox is incredibly hellish to go through and regulate. So, I have a suggestion: why not make another sandbox for users to ...

 
8:28 PM
@VoteToClose we did that before either you or I got here.
 
@NewMetaPosts damn @Doorknob beat me to the mark as duplicate by 5 seconds
I couldn't find the link...
 
@Roujo Use the inquestion:##### flag ... for example
 
Huh.
deletes
How about that.
 
@VoteToClose Yeah anyways this is how it used to be done and it was a nightmare
One sandbox is better.
 
@TimmyD Awesome, thanks ^^
 
8:29 PM
@TimmyD Wow, this'll save me time.
 
@quartata \o/
 
does game this work? -> pomme.us/bigapple
 
@Doorknob :/
I just observed that 3 out of 9 of the messages on the starboard involve avocados. This is entirely too few
3
 
AVODAD haha i very originl plzsendtehstarz
 
hahahaha avocad no juic
 
8:32 PM
tri for hao long?
 
400,000 hours
but no juic
 
we need more players -> pomme.us/bigapple
 
> pomme
> us
Hmm let me fix that for you
> pomme.fr
 
Maybe it's a url hack
And it's supposed to be pommeus
 
Guys.
We should make a Cards vs. Humanity thing.
 
8:41 PM
Using compressed strings on the cards because [insert contrived reason to golf it here]
 
Sorry I left but it started creeping me out
 
@El'endiaStarman You disconnected right before the round where one of the images was a Starman from Earthbound
 
xD
What's the link to the original avocado question?
 
@quartata ha, funny
 
8:47 PM
Nope, found it.
 
some sort of snake game
 
Guest4471 for me.
 
@quartata ninja'd
 
Can't join
 
8:51 PM
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A: The Many Memes of PPCG

VoteToCloseMeme: how does juice an avocado I have try for thirtee minut and no juic Originator: user46049 Cultural Height: October 9th, 2015 - ? Background: Usage example: Literally anything about avocados.

 
Here's another snake room (sorry, didn't mean to leave first one): curvefever.com/…
 
> Get Adobe Flash Player
what is it with you and your love for Flash, @Calvin'sHobbies
 
@ThomasKwa Does that require a different input format?
 
@Doorknob I don't control web game dev
 
@VoteToClose Reference:
3 hours ago, by quartata
Sep 22 '15 at 3:19, by Alex A.
@PhiNotPi hello i have quetions how does juice an avocado i have try for thirtee minut and no juic
 
8:59 PM
for futre ref, curvefever.com/play2.php is actually pretty cool
 
wooooo I win!
and agreed
 
Let's play again. :D
 

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