The Nineteenth Byte

TanMath

23:01

@trichoplax wait, what?

Rainbolt

If three people downvoted, they might be in the process of writing a comment to explain their downvote.

TanMath

I did not notice that...

I should delete my main post

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Probably.

Rainbolt

I think people are just screwing with you. It looks fine to me.

TanMath

ok...I am confused what is going on!!

Rainbolt

23:03

Are you confused, or are you just being dramatic?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

I'm confused, too.

TanMath

no, seriously

What does the community want??!!

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Money and Love.

TanMath

BTW, here is my main post:

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Q: Play the word chain

When I was younger, I use to play a word game. It was very simple. It is called Word chain. The first player chooses a word, the next player says another word that starts with the same letter the previous word ended with. This goes on forever until somebody gives up! Trick is, you cannot use the ...

code-golf

should I delete or what?

trichoplax

If no one is giving you comments either in here or on the sandbox post to indicate what could be improved, then all you can do is use your own judgment.

@TanMath Do you have any reason to delete it?

New Main Posts

23:05

Ninja'd again...

TanMath

@trichoplax the fact that two people downvoted my post right after I posted on the main site

trichoplax

@TanMath The post on main is at +2|-0

TanMath

i am talking about the sandboxed one

El'endia Starman

There's little point to deleting a main post if it was already in the Sandbox and got feedback there.

For the record, I upvoted the main post. I think it's good enough.

TanMath

fine... I will keep it on the main site

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

23:07

tru

El'endia Starman

But, seriously, you probably shouldn't be so demanding or pushy next time.

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TanMath

thanks guys! I hope this challenge is a success like my previous one

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@El'endiaStarman If it's for the record, we should all star it.

TanMath

@El'endiaStarman sorry... I may have crossed the line...

El'endia Starman

There's a difference between "please give me feedback" and "GIVE ME FEEDBACK".

flawr

23:08

repeatedly, and quite far

Sp3000

Is it just me, or is the "print 2016" question just a train wreck right now?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@El'endiaStarman And "GIVE MEH FEEEEEEEEEDBAAAAAAACK"

@Sp3000 It is.

Sp3000

There's been no close votes so far though

Rainbolt

I have to believe that you saw this and are just trying to get attention, but here is what happened. You asked for feedback. You asked for feedback again and got a negative reaction to your second request. This negative attention was directed towards your challenge because anonymous voting plus humans equals immaturity.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Sp3000 It's been reopened iirc

Sp3000

23:09

Oh, I wonder why...

El'endia Starman

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ If so, that'll be visible in the edit history.

Sp3000

> Post Reopened by wizzwizz4, FlagAsSpam, rybo111, nicael, ETHproductions - 4 hours ago

I see

ETHproductions

looks away guiltily

TanMath

@Sp3000 the guy reopened his own post!

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

lel

El'endia Starman

23:10

@TanMath Not uncommon.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@ETHproductions shames

TanMath

I wouldn't do that...

@Rainbolt wait, are you sure? somebody downvoted my post!

ETHproductions

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ It looked good to me. I actually think most of the answers are pretty decent.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@TanMath +3/-1

@ETHproductions They are, but some... are not.

TanMath

I know...

Rainbolt

23:12

@TanMath I was talking about your sandboxed post.

Sp3000

@ETHproductions Sorry, not really my intention to shame the people in the list or anything, but I was just genuinely curious what happened while I was asleep :P

ETHproductions

Many of them just ignore most of the numbers, which should not be allowed, but it's late to change that now.

@Sp3000 I get it, I was half-joking.

Peter Taylor

@Sp3000 It's a train wreck.

TanMath

@Rainbolt i know, but the point I am trying to make is that maybe something is wrong with my challenge and somebody doesn't like it so downvoted my sandboxed post and also the main post...IDK what is happening

Sp3000

Just in case - sarcasm doesn't travel through the intertubes well.

Rainbolt

23:13

@TanMath Your point is that you don't know what is happening? Point taken I guess.

Now I'm just annoyed that I spelled it out, only to find out that you apparently follow a different alphabet.

TanMath

Maybe I am just exaggerating

@Rainbolt huh?

SuperJedi224

Hi

trichoplax

@TanMath I would phrase it "making a mountain out of a molehill". Downvotes are quite common, regardless of the quality of the question. If people perceive a major problem with your post they can vote to close.

All you need to do is ask what could be improved, which you have already done. You can relax now.

Sp3000

@PeterTaylor Thanks for confirming, I've added comments accordingly :)

TanMath

now another 2 downvotes

trichoplax

23:31

@TanMath There is not a single close vote, but 4 downvotes. This supports Rainbolt's suggestion that people downvoted in response to your comments in chat, rather than any problem with the question. Further commentary about it here is not likely to improve things.

TanMath

@trichoplax ok, I am just making sure nothing is wrong with my question...

trichoplax

@TanMath If you are genuinely concerned about getting as much feedback as possible, it's worth leaving questions in the sandbox for at least a few days, preferably a week. The comment on your sandbox post suggests at least 4 people agree that a week is a good guide.

(and 4 people is quite a lot in the sandbox)

Alex A.

@TanMath If something's wrong with it, you're more likely to hear about it in the comments on the post than in chat.

TanMath

@trichoplax yes, but when I got two upvotes so quickly, I wanted to get it going quickly...

I guess I really need to calm down...

congrats @Zizouz212

Zizouz212

Why does everyone keep pinging me?

@TanMath For what?

Well... I know I'm super awesome and special. Thank you :D

mınxomaτ

23:40

@TanMath Indeed.

TanMath

@Zizouz212 for being in the Winter Bash blog post for wearing your hat most stylishly

ok... I realize you guys might be overwhelmed with my discussion about my challenge but I have another sandboxed post I have never posted here before. If you do not want to discuss it, I understand.

Zizouz212

A blog post?

trichoplax

@TanMath Yes I think that is the main thing. The question is good, you responded to comments and clarified things well. The only problem was the rushing, which both annoys others who are trying to help you, and leaves you with a sense of doubt about things being wrong.

Zizouz212

Wait... Are you telling me that I'm popular?

TanMath

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Do-nothing Polyglot Challenge This challenge requires you to write a polyglot which contains a comment in as many languages as possible. The comment must say This is a polyglot comment. The program must do nothing at all. Besides comments, your code may contain no-ops from the language(s) you...

trichoplax

23:41

@TanMath Hey that's a big improvement :)

Alex A.

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Q: Congratulations! Cryptography is graduating!

It's a big day. You've been cleared for graduation by the Stack Exchange Community Team! Cryptography has already met our threshold for graduation-worthy sites, and today joins in the new design-independent graduation process! Reaching 'mature community' status is a big milestone, and you should ...

discussion graduation

ಠ_ಠ

trichoplax

Yay! Graduation! Oh...

TanMath

@trichoplax I guess... To be honest, I have been waiting to post a challenge forever. Except that some of my previous sandboxed posts have had negative feedback

@AlexA. be happy for them!

Alex A.

happiness status-declined

Quill

What's up with the all the flags

chill out guys

TanMath

23:44

huh?

Alex A.

There were flags?

Hosch250

What is up with all these flags on the sandbox posts?

Quill

3 mins ago, by TanMath

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Do-nothing Polyglot Challenge This challenge requires you to write a polyglot which contains a comment in as many languages as possible. The comment must say This is a polyglot comment. The program must do nothing at all. Besides comments, your code may contain no-ops from the language(s) you...

Hosch250

@TanMath Someone flagged your sandbox message.

Quill

^ this was flagged

Alex A.

23:44

sigh

Hosch250

There was one on the other one not long ago.

TanMath

@Hosch250 ok...

Alex A.

Whomever: Flags are for serious issues.

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trichoplax

@TanMath Mine have had negative feedback too - that's what the sandbox is for. Sometimes it means my idea would never work, so it saves me putting too much work into it. Other times it just means improvement is needed, which ends up with a better question on main so again it's useful.

Hosch250

Probably that person that used to hang out in Mathematics flagging whatever...

TanMath

23:45

why are both of you guys from Code Review?

have you come here to trouble us?? ;)

Alex A.

They've both posted here too

Quill

@TanMath because stuff's getting flagged

and that's not a joke

TanMath

@Quill no, the joke is that the two communities are ~~enemies~~ friends

Alex A.

@TanMath Chat flags incur the wrath of users everywhere, regardless of which site a chat room belongs to.

Quill

also @Hosch250 has more rep on PPCG than you @TanMath

and yes, I'm aware

also thanks for the welcoming wagon, love the neigbourly love

Zizouz212

23:48

@Quill Lucky.

Alex A.

@Quill <3<3<3 smooches

Hosch250

If you get a KotH challenge that supports C#, I might take a crack at it.

Alex A.

@Hosch250 My favorite KOTH challenge here to date was Pyrrha's swordfighting one that was language agnostic. I thought it was so neat as someone who doesn't know any of the usual KOTH languages.

El'endia Starman

@Hosch250 I hope to do a language-agnostic KotH in the near future: N-Battleship.

Hosch250

@El'endiaStarman Send it over to CR when you get it done. We did a community challenge for that.

El'endia Starman

23:51

Oh, cool! .... I'm slightly confused now. How does one do N-Battleship on Code Review?

Alex A.

@El'endiaStarman Don't send it to Code Review! That's like sending a warring country your missile launch codes!

Quill

not really

Hosch250

We write a program and post it for review.

Quill

It's like sending Korea a box set of Friends

Alex A.

hahahaha

El'endia Starman

23:52

@Hosch250 Oh, so you're suggesting that I get all my mistakes highlighted and criticized...

Quill

s/criticised/improved

Alex A.

I personally have nothing against Code Review. I got my first gold badge there.

Hosch250

@El'endiaStarman Well, sure. But I meant we could all post our reviewed code to whup the rest of you.

flawr

@AlexA. Why would anyone have anything against Code Review?

Alex A.

Our sites have a silly rivalry.

Zizouz212

23:53

@flawr everyone would have everything

Hosch250

It started about the same time as PPCG and graduated first, is what I heard.

trichoplax

Makes sense for KotHs - there's no requirement for unreadable code... In fact it might help attract more contestants if the controller code is reviewed first and easy to understand

Alex A.

^

flawr

I LIKE SHITTY CODE, NICE CODE IS FOR NOOBS, CODE REVIEW IS +*%", PPCG FTW

Hosch250

Someone should write a submission in VBA.

Zizouz212

23:54

@flawr I'll take that into consideration for the challenge I am making :)

Sp3000

Cross-site challenge idea: Shortest golf which still passes code review.

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Alex A.

:O

flawr

@Zizouz212 god, please no

Hosch250

@Sp3000 That's a good idea.

trichoplax

That might just work...

Zizouz212

23:54

:D

Quill

@flawr golf your production code, I dare you

Zizouz212

So what normal languages are there?

Hosch250

@Quill Job security :P

Alex A.

@Quill Want to see how ~~beautiful~~ disturbing a golfed language interpreter is?

Hosch250

@Zizouz212 Whitespace, LOLCODE, and BF are all on CR.

Quill

23:56

I find it better to write code so advanced nobody else but you can you maintain it

quartata

Oh hi @Zizouz212

flawr

How about Pyth or CJam?

Zizouz212

Python, Java, C/++/#, PHP, Swift... I need to think of my 'allowed' languages list

flawr

Or Hexagony?

quartata

@Zizouz212 Perl?

Hosch250

23:56

Java, C#, and Python are all common.

Zizouz212

Add that :)

Alex A.

@Zizouz212 Allowed for what?

Zizouz212

Ruby too :)

Hosch250

I don't think I've seen Pyth, not sure about CJam.

Zizouz212

@AlexA. My challenge :)

quartata

23:56

Hear that @AlexA.? Zizouz likes Perl.

SuperJedi224

Guys... is there anything good that can be drawn as a 3x7 black-and-white pixel art?

flawr

3x7 matrix or image?

3=width, 7=height?

Quill

@SuperJedi224 a square

Alex A.

@Zizouz212 Just be warned that if you arbitrarily include/exclude any languages, the community will downvote you into oblivion.

SuperJedi224

7 wide, 3 high

Zizouz212

23:57

@AlexA. That's okay :)

flawr

@Zizouz212 You'll get my upvotes!

quartata

It is pouring buckets and buckets of rain where I am now. We even got a tornado warning (?? ok)

Fun times

Alex A.

@quartata They have tornadoes in California?

flawr

I always wanted to see a tornado live!

Zizouz212

I will down vote the community into oblivion >:D

quartata

23:58

@AlexA. No, that's why it is funny.

flawr

Right attidude @Zizouz212

SuperJedi224

By the way the cells aren't squares there 2:1 rectangles

quartata

@Zizouz212 meta.codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/7473/…

Alex A.

@quartata ._. please be safe

El'endia Starman

What would happen if I posted code on CR in a language no one knew? (Like Minkolang...)

flawr

23:58

@SuperJedi224 Can you please make a diagram of how that grid looks like?=)

quartata

@El'endiaStarman downvotes I suspect

Zizouz212

So I have two challenges. One about chat, one about all these darn languages

quartata

I wonder what would happen if someone posted in Befunge on CR.

Sp3000

@SuperJedi224 Make the top/bottom rows black and you get a misshapen polyglot flag.

flawr

Or hexagony.

Zizouz212

23:59

@quartata Is that the question or answer?

Sp3000

Although serious question would be: what is this image for?

Zizouz212

(i.e. I can't see meta posts)

SuperJedi224

Also there are gaps between the rows half the height of the cells

Hosch250

@quartata Get a review?

flawr

@SuperJedi224 Diagram please=)

SuperJedi224

23:59

@Sp3000 I made a 3x7 redstone lamp display

quartata

@Zizouz212 Why can't you see the meta post?

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