The Nineteenth Byte

DJMcMayhem

6:02 PM

@Sp3000 think I should post that as an answer?

Sp3000

Yeah sure - I'll be interested to see if there's any languages which would have a problem with that

TùxCräftîñg

0

A: "Hello, World!"

MemeGolf, 388 bytes Yet another strange esolang from me Outgolf Dennis by 72 bytes. 44 Outgolf Dennis by 29 bytes. 44 Outgolf Dennis by 7 bytes. 44 44 Outgolf Dennis by 3 bytes. 44 Juice avocado for 67 minutes. 44 Juice avocado for 12 minutes. 44 Outgolf Dennis by 55 bytes. 44 Outgolf Dennis by...

+3/-3

zyabin101

> “HHeelllloo,, EEaarrtthh!!” [duplicate]

Because sometimes, even the best fail... ;)

Sp3000

(btw re:FWIW - sorry for being a nitpick since it kinda kills the fun of the site, and it makes the learning curve harder for new users. It just bugs me though since I can see a lot of the scoring system being abused one day...)

uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

I'm thinking about learning Ruby because it's a thing people use and I should know it

TùxCräftîñg

6:07 PM

ruby is cool

it have builtin GNU readline

and readline make any language automatically cool

uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

@TùxCräftîñg python too!

docs.python.org/2/library/readline.html

El'endia Starman

Aug 31 at 15:48, by Dennis

@LeakyNun Not my vote, but I have to say, I could do without the little victory dance every time someone outgolfs me and/or Jelly.

I'm starting to think that "Outgolf Dennis" should go the way of "Alex is wrong".

Dennis

@TùxCräftîñg One of those downvotes is mine.

TùxCräftîñg

;_;

quartata

Another one is mine

uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

6:09 PM

@TùxCräftîñg you must be double ;_; right now

El'endia Starman

The fourth was mine, in fact.

TùxCräftîñg

;_;_;_;

quartata

The language isn't very interesting aside from the forced meme value (which I already dislike), sorry :/

DJMcMayhem

@Sp3000 no worries. Meta downvotes aren't that big of a deal. I totally agree though. We're torn between beaurecratically make sure we can enforce every single possible abuse of the rules and having it be sane and easy for new users.

TùxCräftîñg

:/

uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

6:10 PM

@TùxCräftîñg was gonna upvote... but not enough memes

TùxCräftîñg

ಠ_ಠ

brb forcing any command to start with jQuery.

flawr

@El'endiaStarman outgolf-is-wrong

@El'endiaStarman alex-is-dennis

TùxCräftîñg

::O

betseg

5 hours ago, by betseg

Tfw my worst question has 15 updoots

Geobits

worst, best, and only all work there >_>

El'endia Starman

6:14 PM

@betseg It's your only- ninja'd. :P

Rainbolt

@DJMcMayhem The best way to close the gap would be "Use common sense. Downvote obvious abuses." Unfortunately that requires the entire community to be mature, because a single upvote offsets like five downvotes.

Geobits

+1 for "people not downvoting enough"

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TimmyD

@Geobits That's ... ironic.

Rainbolt

I was encouraging removal of the carrot instead of adding more stick, but close enough I guess.

Geobits

@Rainbolt You say what you say, and I'll hear what I hear.

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Rainbolt

6:18 PM

Wait no... I flat out said to downvote more. You're right lol

Geobits

@TimmyD I'm not sure you read my message right if it seems ironic.

Rainbolt

Let me help you see the irony: +1 for "people not -1'ing enough"

Geobits

Ok, so maybe I wasn't reading it right. Whatever :P

TimmyD

The important thing is more downvotes.

Geobits

Always.

Rainbolt

6:20 PM

For answers, 1 upvote equals 5 downvotes right? So wouldn't it be easier to tackle the problem from that angle instead?

As in... five times easier?

TimmyD

@Geobits Especially since you're not #1.

El'endia Starman

Geobits must like the smell of ~~napalm~~ downvotes in the morning.

Geobits

But I'm not sure how feasible it is to convince every drive-by HNQ-gawker to not upvote.

TùxCräftîñg

@TimmyD it's not possible o_o

Beta Decay

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Golff yr Côd - Treiglad code-golf natural-language Read this yn Cymraeg Challenge Given a word in Welsh, output all of the possible mutated forms of the word. Mutations A mutation is a change of the first consonant of a word when following certain words or in certain grammatical contexts. ...

Hello guys

TùxCräftîñg

6:22 PM

syug olleH

zyabin101

Beta Decay

^^^ The advice of both Welsh and non-Welsh speakers would be helpful

zyabin101

^^ Demo of zeroth version of Untitled1, my new font.

Bald Bantha

Why do they have cunieform in Unicode? Goodness unicode has a charector for everything

TùxCräftîñg

﴾͡๏̯͡๏﴿ O'RLY?

Bald Bantha

6:25 PM

𒂐

DJMcMayhem

2

A: Bytes for changing a configuration file before running a program?

On PPCG, languages are defined by their implementation. This includes any configuration files. Therefore, if you edit your local configuration files, you are essentially creating a new unpublished implementation of an existing language. Now, if you were to significantly edit your configuration fi...

flawr

﴾͡๏̯͡๏﴿

TùxCräftîñg

𒀱

DJMcMayhem

On a side note, that answer earned me the discussion bronze badge. \o/

zyabin101

Nothing of interest, except a space glyph and an abundance of "unrenderable" chars, like [] or [].

Beta Decay

6:26 PM

@DJMcMayhem Are you arguing against yourself now?

zyabin101

Ooh, or even [].

TùxCräftîñg

it's common on meta

Sp3000

@DJMcMayhem Nice, but I feel like calling it MetaConfigScript might get confusing - I think feersum's comment's probably a better way of saying what I was trying to say :P

DJMcMayhem

@BetaDecay yeah pretty much. :P

Beta Decay

Haha wow :D

DJMcMayhem

6:27 PM

I kinda just threw that first answer out there to hear opinions. I agreed with it when I posted it

Bald Bantha

Wow! they even have a bobted charector: 𓇶 (U+131F6)

zyabin101

The test text used here is:

TùxCräftîñg

y̶a̶y̶ ̶c̶o̶o̶l̶

zyabin101

> Bahfecge mummer nubi minfuzu ahapuvecu fa dikukive vo batupjel danuju di vu jel sifun ham vikcom fit suralit. Fowki wavtoslo is ubota oci okezu jasfenbur isnag vizfizu nag zewwifa dahav hiz dediuki. Ahe tekzokmaj du dog bipda lig ha gulubzeh tuido cal zilrusa resvig ze cec. Le faw ruwjec rosfurme zukonebow pabil ojeubada pab utena pa rehliwhub nimandi kazhigehe sifancab vesav lezsagik jowoc. Aru kenijhi re rif vojike iwzombe riv sacikbic kocloc cah icosadnuj enkaw nefna kogi ebi seh pol go.

Which contains 29 chars, and 28 unrendered ones:

U+002E  .    U+0041  A    U+0042  B    U+0046  F
U+004C  L    U+0061  a    U+0062  b    U+0063  c
U+0064  d    U+0065  e    U+0066  f    U+0067  g
U+0068  h    U+0069  i    U+006A  j    U+006B  k
U+006C  l    U+006D  m    U+006E  n    U+006F  o
U+0070  p    U+0072  r    U+0073  s    U+0074  t
U+0075  u    U+0076  v    U+0077  w    U+007A  z

betseg

The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog

Geobits

6:30 PM

Has anyone ever seen a fox jump over a dog?

Beta Decay

A dog and/or a fox probably has

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zyabin101

@betseg Aww nope, none of these chars render in Untitled1, except spaces.

Geobits

Welp, nvm:

Quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog

►

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El'endia Starman

@Geobits Yup.

Sp3000

I was going to say "I have now", but you're all too fast

Geobits

6:32 PM

To be fair, that fox didn't look particularly quick, nor the dog lazy.

Beta Decay

If anything the dog was quick and the fox was lazy

What impelled the fox to jump over the dog? Is it some kind of instinct? :o

betseg

"pijamalı hasta yağız şoföre çabucak güvendi" "the patient in pajamas trusted the swarthy driver quickly" Turkish version is dumber

flawr

Beta Decay

@flawr What's that supposed to be?

flawr

TùxCräftîñg

6:36 PM

“Portez ce vieux whisky au juge blond qui fume”

betseg

Plz post panagrams in your languages

TùxCräftîñg

i dont know how to translate this

flawr

@BetaDecay instagram.com/subwaydoodle

betseg

@TùxCräftîñg lel ninja'd

TùxCräftîñg

?

flawr

6:37 PM

@betseg Franz jagd im komplett verwahrlosten Taxi quer durch Bayern.

betseg

@TùxCräftîñg you posted pangram, then i asked for pangrams :D

TùxCräftîñg

> Wear this old whiskey blond judge who smokes

google translate says this

betseg

@flawr ...and translation to English

Beta Decay

Oh juge is judge. That's the only thing I couldn't translate

flawr

@betseg Franz is speeding through bavaria in a completely run-down taxi.

TùxCräftîñg

6:39 PM

what language?

Beta Decay

Deutsch

TùxCräftîñg

kk

betseg

Lets golf down pangrams and find smaller pangrams

flawr

@betseg abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz.

TùxCräftîñg

tag idea: panagram-golf

^^

betseg

6:40 PM

@flawr which language

flawr

pagan-golf

mınxomaτ

These abstract logo designs are pretty neat.

TùxCräftîñg

@flawr but it dont work with language with fancy unicode like Ïýò

trichoplax

CMC: find an English word for which every possible anagram is also an English word (longest wins)

flawr

@TùxCräftîñg german pangrams usually do not include äöü.

Beta Decay

6:41 PM

brb, gotta download a dictionary

TùxCräftîñg

@BetaDecay github.com/DennisMitchell/jelly/blob/master/dictionary.py

flawr

@trichoplax I

El'endia Starman

@trichoplax I feel like we've already done this before.

TùxCräftîñg

@trichoplax Never gonna give you up

betseg

@trichoplax a

TùxCräftîñg

6:43 PM

because of internet magic, every anagram is the same thing

flawr

@betseg I is definitely longer than a

betseg

@flawr o_o

Google anagram it's beautiful

zyabin101

@BetaDecay app.aspell.net/create

Generate yourself any word list that det duger.

("Det duger." - It is suitable.)

Sp3000

@trichoplax ... no

TùxCräftîñg

CMC => Chat Massive Challenge

flawr

6:45 PM

Chat Mega Challenge

DJMcMayhem

Creating massive cookies?

Sp3000

(on a side note, puzzle-brain tells me there's eta/ate/tea/tae/eat which is close)

DJMcMayhem

Chilling makes candy?

Cthulu masterfully carves?

betseg

Ci Mam Cbored

You will break starring system stahp

trichoplax

@Sp3000 haha :)

zyabin101

6:47 PM

^ the Untitled1 "trademark glyph"

Gotta make a new Unipants, then put it in avatar.

betseg

@zyabin101 the best font, ever ™

TùxCräftîñg

area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/102571/…

zyabin101

Already followed it.

TùxCräftîñg

@zyabin101 ™℠®©ⓞⓜⓖ

trichoplax

@El'endiaStarman There have been enough word related challenges I can't tell anymore...

TùxCräftîñg

6:52 PM

CMC: Prove P=NP

TimmyD

PS C:\Tools\Scripts\golfing> 'P' -eq 'NP'
False

TùxCräftîñg

:O

Beta Decay

Alright, the program's running, I'll get back to you when it finds the first word (five letters or more) is found

flawr

@El'endiaStarman did you see this? instagram.com/subwaydoodle

trichoplax

@BetaDecay You only need 3 to take the lead...

Sp3000

6:56 PM

(there's no 3s in my dict, fyi :P)

El'endia Starman

@flawr I've not seen those before. Cool.

Sp3000

@TùxCräftîñg brachylog.tryitonline.net/#code=UD1OUA&input=

TimmyD

@trichoplax If proper nouns are allowed, and we can stick an umlaut in, then are works -- Aër / are / ear / era / Rae / Rea

TùxCräftîñg

@Sp3000 ::O

@tehworld someone proved P=NP

Fatalize

@Sp3000 rly

brachylog.tryitonline.net/#code=UCE9TlA&input=

Well...

TùxCräftîñg

7:00 PM

watwatwat

Sp3000

Awesome! Now let's just apply this...

El'endia Starman

Well, there you have it. P=NP is undecidable!

TùxCräftîñg

ggtgtg

Fatalize

@El'endiaStarman brachylog.tryitonline.net/…

Seems like it

Helka Homba

      \
  ___/o>
-(___)
 /   \

^ Suggestions on how to make more goat-like?

Anonymous

7:02 PM

@HelkaHomba Have it say stuff about JavaScript

TimmyD

Make it upside down

zyabin101

@El'endiaStarman refresh my profile, I put the "trademark glyph" as my avatar. :3

TimmyD

Stick a -1 in the middle

Helka Homba

Not downgoat-like.

TimmyD

Sorry - Downgoat is the only goat I know.

Helka Homba

7:04 PM

He's not representative

zyabin101

(Look at my avatar :3)

Fatalize

^APL input symbol?

zyabin101

Nope, the Untitled1 trademark glyph! :D

Optimizer

need a goatie

trichoplax

@TimmyD I guess I should have specified a word list, even for a CMC...

@zyabin101 My browser doesn't seem to support your avatar

zyabin101

7:06 PM

XD

El'endia Starman

From Imgur: A painting of a painter painting a painter painting a painting of a painter....

flawr

     \
  ___/°e
-(___)"
 /  \

Helka Homba

derpgoat

Optimizer

dancing goat

wow its like a gif

goat image format

betseg

@El'endiaStarman recursion

zyabin101

7:08 PM

TimmyD

      ,
  ___/o>
*(___) `
 /   \

zyabin101

^^ Map of first 128 characters in Untitled1.

El'endia Starman

Nasa & Air Force shared a hanger during Hurricane Hermine no-plane-crash

They stuck 22 aircraft in there!

flawr

@El'endiaStarman Look at the cute young one, still hiding unter it's mother's wing!

> $1.8 Billion

El'endia Starman

Haha, yep.

mbomb007

7:12 PM

Abusing onclick with turtles:

from turtle import*
t=Turtle()
#t.speed(0)
t.st()
t.getscreen().onclick(t.goto)

Click, then click somewhere else before drawing finishes.

trinket.io/python/3a5a950017

Now THAT is modern art. :P

flawr

plane-crash

El'endia Starman

@mbomb007 Well, that's pretty cool. How does this work?

TimmyD

@flawr To be fair, wouldn't that be van-crash?

mbomb007

@El'endiaStarman chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/32214755#32214755

Optimizer

plane-crush?

El'endia Starman

7:17 PM

@mbomb007 Well, I got that, but why does abusing onclick that way work?

mbomb007

@El'endiaStarman I think the drawing involves small movements and drawing a line between two points. A "race condition" of sorts is occurring, drawing lines zig-zagging between points along the 2 separate paths you ordered.

If you set the speed to 0, it no longer happens.

El'endia Starman

Can be more than 2, as I just discovered.

mbomb007

Or, it probably would, but there's no way for me to click fast enough.

@El'endiaStarman :O

Clicking repeatedly in a square or some other shape reminds me of that one old Windows screensaver.

nostalgia

El'endia Starman

Yeah, it does.

feersum

Doesn't do anything cool for me locally (tried 2 and 3).

mbomb007

7:22 PM

@El'endiaStarman Do you know what that screensaver was called?

Mystify, maybe? screensaversplanet.com/screensavers/themes/classic

El'endia Starman

@mbomb007 No, sorry. I barely remember anything from when I was that young. :P

@mbomb007 Oh yeah, Mistify definitely looks like it.

And wow, nostalgia indeed.

Helka Homba

@mbomb007 Definitely mystify. Beziers is similar but had curves.

TùxCräftîñg

ßαςκ

trichoplax

I believe things like mystify have been around longer than Windows

I remember an old zx Spectrum demo tape

mbomb007

@trichoplax Could be.

TùxCräftîñg

7:28 PM

~~@zyabin101~~ @APLcharacter what happened to your avatar o.o

mbomb007

brb. Someone just announced free brownies and cookies.

TùxCräftîñg

@mbomb007 ::O

Killing puppies? WTH is wrong with you?! What's next? Kittens? — ThiefMaster Mar 9 '14 at 17:24

TimmyD

I wanna brownie

mbomb007

46 mins ago, by zyabin101

aditsu

@El'endiaStarman a hanger ?

Anonymous

7:36 PM

@mbomb007 Bring me some thx

betseg

Woah

TùxCräftîñg

@mbomb007 gimme some lpz

betseg

Hang on, I just remembered another thing I'm right about. See...

meirl

mbomb007

@betseg Haven't you heard of the Particle/Wave Duality of Matter? :D

El'endia Starman

@aditsu ...yes?

Beta Decay

7:45 PM

@tricho I've made a few edits to the question

trichoplax

Will have a look

@BetaDecay Was about to say "hopefully my first comment came across as a joke", but I see you've edited... :P

TùxCräftîñg

what is this big room?

trichoplax

It's funny to have one of the worst examples of mutation as the first line of the challenge though :)

betseg

@mbomb007 ive

Beta Decay

@trichoplax Haha oh well :D

If you're writing a question on it, you've got to practice it yourself

aditsu

7:48 PM

@El'endiaStarman are they taking turns to hang their jackets or something? :p

El'endia Starman

@aditsu .......I'm not sure if you're serious or trolling... :P

aditsu

@El'endiaStarman well, the right word is hangar

El'endia Starman

....TIL that they're different words.

feersum

In times of great stress, aircraft are known to hang on the ceiling like bats.

But sometimes the ceiling is too smooth to cling to so they need hangers.

aditsu

the more you know ...★

zyabin101

7:50 PM

@TùxCräftîñg Seems it's a random vault.

Beta Decay

@aditsu Did you just star your own post?

TùxCräftîñg

kthx

aditsu

@BetaDecay nah, just imitating the logo

TimmyD

@feersum No, it's after you wash them, you put them on hangers to dry.

betseg

Tfw rocket league is out for Linux but I don't have money :/

trichoplax

7:54 PM

@BetaDecay Language purists and people who have read your list of Welsh consonants may be confused at the use of "garej" in the examples :P

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Q: Sense Us a Census

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Q: Golff yr Côd - Treiglad

Read this yng Nghymraeg Challenge Given a word in Welsh, output all of the possible mutated forms of the word. Mutations A mutation is a change of the first letter of a word when following certain words or in certain grammatical contexts. In Welsh, the following are considered "consonants": ...

code-golf natural-language

trichoplax

@BetaDecay is there a reason for the restriction to only one permitted separator?

(sorry I didn't pick up on that in the sandbox...)

Beta Decay

I thought it was easier, but I'll just scrap it

I'm not used to having any kind of separator allowed

zyabin101

@NewMainPosts Diolch Main Swyddi Newydd

trichoplax

translate: Diolch Main Swyddi Newydd

(from Welsh) Thanks Main New Jobs