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6:01 PM
@LeakyNun Too old - no point in doing so.
Elevening feed bot messages when they were ninja'd by a chat user is done for laughs/amusement, and that's kinda pointless when you'd have to go to the transcript to see it.
 
lol
 
poll: How much your computer worthes ?
 
My computer, or the one I'm on right now?
 
Your computer which you do most of your works with
 
I have a laptop that cost about $850
 
6:11 PM
@GLASSIC is worth you mean?
a lot
it's a mac
 
$750
 
Mine deserves throwing to trash can (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compaq_Presario_V6000)
 
@GLASSIC I'm not positive since I bought all the parts, and then started switching them out, but somewhere between $900-$1200.
And a couple parts were gifts, which makes it harder to tally.
 
any ideas about how much mine worths ?
its battery is broken too , and it's out of produce line , too
 
probably not much
 
6:15 PM
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

TùxCräftîñgKing of the Tic-Tac-Toe king-of-the-hill Since Tic-Tac-Toe is solved, the grid used here is a 10x10 grid. Your bot should accept input as a command-line argument. The input will be the grid, like this: .......... .....#.... .........@ ...#.....@ ...#....@. .......... .......... ...##..... ......

 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ definietly not much
 
@TùxCräftîñg wait for new sandboxed posts please
 
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Q: Is HTML/CSS a programming language

Rohan JhunjhunwalaCSS can simulate rule 110 and thus is turing complete. Thus is HTML + CSS considered a programming language for our definition. However as user @TimmyD mentioned appropriately "HTML+CSS is Turing-complete so long as Turing is clicking buttons making the program go. ;-)" (used with permission). Th...

 
it will automatically do that , but really why ?
 
6:16 PM
I bought the laptop I'm currently using for roughly $550, a few years ago. So it's worth less now. :P
 
I DON'T LIKE SAND IT'S COARSE AND ROUGH AND IRRITATING AND IT GETS EVERYWHERE
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@NewSandboxedPosts ninja'd
 
\o/
@TùxCräftîñg i wonder if you'll add a specification to neoscript repo . i want to implemente it ! (though i'm not a good programmer , just doing it as a practise to see if i can improve my skills)
 
@GLASSIC ok, so adding some spec
 
@TùxCräftîñg thank you !
poll: what was your very first programming language that you learned ? i learned programming with Pascal
 
6:21 PM
@GLASSIC Java
(;_;)
 
@GLASSIC Python.
 
@TùxCräftîñg why sad
 
@TùxCräftîñg because it auto does that, and we only need 1 post
 
Perl
 
6:22 PM
and you can't stop the sandboxed posts one
@GLASSIC python
@ASCIIThenANSI hey, i haven't seen you on PPCG in a while
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Yeah, I was away
 
welcome back!!!
also, nice avatar
 
But now I'm back and better than ever with ASCIIThenANSI 2.0™!
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Oh thanks :)
 
EBCDIC is better
 
6:24 PM
@ASCIIThenANSI ™
 
©®™
 
First real language I could use in any real capacity was Python.
 
@GLASSIC brainfuck. :(
/s
 
Since when could the feed do this?
 
I guess C++ too, though back in high school they didn't teach any of the OO stuff
 
6:25 PM
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ don't tell me that u r serious ...
 
@ASCIIThenANSI i dont understand what you mean by your comment
 
/s means sarcasm
@ASCIIThenANSI mods 11 the message
check the history
 
No perl love eh
 
generally they do spam posts into funny things
@quartata it's perl.
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Oh ok.
 
6:27 PM
@NewSandboxedPosts i feel like i've seen this 11 before?
 
poll: which programming language has impressed you with it's abilities ? i think Delphi , it looks cool and profassional (too much of polls ...)
 
Brainfuck.
 
@GLASSIC RPN
 
googling what rpn is ...
 
Erlang, Pytek, Perl
 
Seriously though, Mathematica has a built-in for literally everything. (unless you need to use strings, then you're SOL)
 
@BusinessCat SOL?
 
shit out of luck
 
lol
 
36
A: Fibonacci-orial

Martin EnderMathematica, 10 bytes Fibonorial Another Mathematica built-in soundly beaten by a golfing language without the built-in.

 
6:30 PM
@GLASSIC Java for awesome cross-platform stuff.
 
so Java for it's slowness
 
@GLASSIC Jelly Impresses me with it's terseness. C# impresses me with being nice, clean, professional, and simple. Python impresses me with being easy and english-like, as well as being visually different than most languages. Vim impresses me with the fact that my hands can edit text faster than my brain can think about it. C impresses me with it's brutal simplicity and the that it inspired basically every single language in use today.
5
Java disgusts me.
6
I have no opinions on other languages.
 
Entertaining story:
 
@LeakyNun why? java is evil
 
@TùxCräftîñg Java is my first language.
 
me too
 
@El'endiaStarman lol, eleven'd
 
@El'endiaStarman That thumbnail though
 
@DrGreenEggsandIronMan Jelly Impresses, just fyi
 
6:32 PM
Yay, stars! Feed my addiction to meaningless internet points! \o/
 
@LeakyNun: Hey, be nice. No need to curse at someone.
 
Perl impresses me because it has like 50 special variables
 
@DrGreenEggsandIronMan @Downgoat lol
 
@LeakyNun Do it again and I'll flag as offensive.
 
i 👨 like ❤️ emojicode ⌨ because emojis 🍉
 
6:33 PM
Funciton impress me because i have no idea how to interpret it
 
@El'endiaStarman FWIW I wasn't offended (even though I agree that's a little much for our "be nice" policy)
 
I like Java and Python but I don't find them unusual, just useful. Erlang truly wowed me when I found out about its concurrency tools. Perl will aways have a special place in my heart being not only my first language but also my introduction to functional programming. Pytek although not finished will be awesome (disclaimer elendia did not pay me to say that)
 
@AlexA. @Dennis the latest julia update spews warnings everytime I run it? does this happen to you?
 
@ReleasingHeliumNuclei 👍
 
specifically using homebrew
openWarning: Calling Formula.sha1 is deprecated!
Use Formula.sha256 instead.
/usr/local/Library/Taps/staticfloat/homebrew-julia/gmp4-julia.rb:9:in `<class:Gmp4Julia>'
Please report this to the staticfloat/julia tap!

Warning: Calling SoftwareSpec#sha1 is deprecated!
Use SoftwareSpec#sha256 instead.
/usr/local/Library/Taps/staticfloat/homebrew-julia/gmp4-julia.rb:9:in `<class:Gmp4Julia>'
Please report this to the staticfloat/julia tap!

Warning: Calling Resource#sha1 is deprecated!
Use Resource#sha256 instead.
 
6:34 PM
@DrGreenEggsandIronMan Yeah, I figured there was a chance it was meant in a joking way, but I wasn't about to let it stand regardless. It's very hard to be sure in an online, text-only environment.
 
@Dennis OK, a whole bunch of changes. 1. Could you pull V? 2. could you sudo pip2 install hexdump? 3. You don't have to be in the same directory to run a file anymore. 4. Could you add the -x or --hexdump flag? (either one works)
 
You could use subprocess + xxd instead
 
I'd prefer that (especially since I like the xxd formatting) but wouldn't that be linux dependent?
 
@DrGreenEggsandIronMan xxd come with cygwin, msys and git for windows
so for a dev environment this isnt a problem
 
@DrGreenEggsandIronMan xxd comes with vim.
 
6:38 PM
OK. Don't pull just yet.
 
I'll pull in a couple of minutes.
Nevermind.
 
@DrGreenEggsandIronMan that's a harsh thing to say about the best language ever
 
@Poke ಠ______________ಠ
Java is the worse language ever
 
@Poke It's the best beverage ever, not the best language ever.
I golf with it, I should know :P
 
@Geobits That sentence works both ways
 
6:40 PM
Arnold Palmers are the best beverage ever.
 
You're entitled to your wrong opinions
 
ಠ_ಠ
 
@TimmyD Eww no. That's the tea that's been laced with poison, right?
 
brb in a very long time
 
I used to love Java but rather recently I've realized I hate it and a lot of its quirks are just getting in my way. Too bad C# will never run properly on anything other than Windows
 
6:41 PM
The fact that it's difficult to golf should have no bearing on whether or not it's a good language
 
@TimmyD amen
 
I don't really mind Java at all, but I wouldn't say it's "the best ever". It definitely has its quirks.
 
I was going to learn Java after C since it seemed to be used everywhere. I took a look at a Hello World program and gave up.
 
the best quirks
 
@quartata Start migrating to F#
 
6:42 PM
Too bad I have a 5K+ line project that's written entirely in it
 
@Geobits You mean lemonade?
 
@Dennis I only learned it for Android, but it's pretty useful to know when looking for work too.
 
@TimmyD Mono is shit
 
Java, like most languages, has a time and place.
 
@TimmyD Yep. Now I like lemonade, but whoever first decided that tea should be lemon flavored should have been shot on the spot.
 
6:43 PM
emojicode is tha best. its so easy to code on mobile, but not so much to compile on mobile, but they cancel out imo
 
I realized this after learning that a bunch of libraries have windows only licenses
 
Clean for enterprise stuff
 
@Geobits I don't write code for work, so that's not an issue. I'd like to make a TIO app one day though.
 
Java enterprise is the worst of java :/
 
@quartata open-source FTW
 
6:45 PM
@quartata I didn't realize you had to use Mono to use F# ... don't they have a separate compiler available?
 
The only thing I like about Java is enterprise actually. JSF rocks
 
jax.ws.rs is nice
 
@ReleasingHeliumNuclei I wonder if you could write a big project in that
 
I'm talking Hibernate, Spring, etc. It gets nasty :(
 
@TimmyD It needs a CLR runtime
 
6:45 PM
@quartata That's why I like C. There are decent compilers for pretty much any platform.
 
"SMITH! What is this?"
"That's my project, sir."
"It's a bunch of emojis!"
"Yeah, I know. Cool right?"
 
Hibernate is a beast of an orm
orm's can be nice
 
Beast is correct
 
but aren't required
 
@ASCIIThenANSI it has import things, so its possible
 
6:46 PM
something smaller like Apache DBUtils is all you really need
 
It's not so much Hibernate itself, but how people use/abuse it.
 
yeah
you could argue Linq has the same problems
 
I've seen some terrible things shudder
 
@quartata Right, but I had thought that Microsoft open-sourced that whole section a couple years ago.
 
D is nice but doesn't have enough libraries yet. Vala too
 
6:48 PM
OOP forces you to think about architecture which is nice
and why I think java enterprise isn't terrible
 
@TimmyD you'd think but just yesterday I found that System.Net.Http is missing entirely on Linux
 
@quartata So, not this guy?
@Geobits Well, that seems a touch drastic.
 
Not really.
 
Yes that guy. I looked it up and apparently it's Windows only and cannot be packaged with Mono
 
Huh.
Hah. Re-reading, I guess my "Huh." reply can be in reply to either/both Geobits and quarata ... :D
 
6:56 PM
Groovy helps a lot with cutting out some of the retarded quirks of java but it's slow as shit. I think there might be a way to compile it which would be nice
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ ??
@LeakyNun can't not enough data
 
@Downgoat you are the most common sender of the message "wai u do dis" and variants.
 
@Dennis OK, could you pull now? Also, you won't need to pip install hexdump, although you will still need to add the -x flag.
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ s/wai/y
 
Does anyone know what Pokemon Go uses Bluetooth for? At first I thought it was as a form of NFC but I don't think it has anything like that
disclaimer never played and most likely never will
@Geobits you probably know the answer to this
 
7:06 PM
i think i broke my i3
 
@quartata I don't think it actually uses it now, but the accessory-wristband thing that's coming out likely uses it to communicate with the phone.
I play all the time with bluetooth off.
 
Hm, all right. This makes my job harder
 
Oh? What's the job?
 
I may or may not be trying to create a Pokemon Go player alert as an inside joke/prank with a friend
 
Integrating Pokémon Go with F#, and turning it into Pokémon Go++.
 
7:10 PM
@quartata Sounds evil. Continue.
 
@quartata Ah. You might be better off using the camera to track people. Look for the ones that move kinda slowly, stopping briefly every so often. If you can get the angle of the head it will make it easier :P
 
I thought if I could find out how it advertises itself over Bluetooth I could just do a simple scan
Phase 2 will be tactical integration with Pokemon figurines and subtle backlighting
 
@DrGreenEggsandIronMan Done and done.
 
(cue relevant xkcd)
 
Oh, yeah... I don't think it uses bluetooth at all right now. That could work once they release the accessories.
Or at least it would find the people using those.
 
7:14 PM
@quartata what do you mean? Alerts when another player comes near?
 
Yes.
 
Well, you could just hack Niantic. Steal their code (along with their signing keys) and alter the program so it pings location to your own server. Then the rest is simple.
 
can someone who uses i3 halp
 
@ReleasingHeliumNuclei sorry I use i7
 
That sounds slightly illegal. This is just potentially morally ambiguous
 
7:16 PM
that's not what he means i don't think
 
though they both use x86 so I'm sure i could help
 
@quartata Well. Slightly, yes.
 
ye @EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ iz rite
 
Huh, I've never even heard of i3wm
 
7:18 PM
@ReleasingHeliumNuclei Welcome to PPCG chat! I haven't seen you around here before.
 
@ConorO'Brien lel im @betseg
 
@ReleasingHeliumNuclei ಠ_ಠ why does everyone have to change their name to something foreign and unrecognizable?
 
No I'm betseg
 
@Dennis thankyou. Unfortunately, I'm an idiot, and I borked everything one more pull?
 
question: should 123.tobase(16) return 7b or 7B
 
@Downgoat 7B
 
7b
 
ok
 
strawpoll it
 
does tobase return a string type
if so then 7B makes sense
 
7:21 PM
@DrGreenEggsandIronMan Been there a couple of times. :P Done.
 
if it's a hex literal then i think either should work
 
plz halp i3 iz mad
 
Haha, thankyou!
 
@Poke yeah it returns a string
you can reprsent numbers any way you want though
 
I've tried to reword this to be clearer (my first attempt was sitting on the fence too much). How does this read now?
 
7:22 PM
cool
 
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A: What qualifies as malicious code?

trichoplaxSubtopic: Crashing a program I think a distinction should be emphasised between programs that crash different things. A program that crashes itself only harms the program itself, and only temporarily. Crashing a compiler is unlikely to affect any other program unless other programs happen to b...

 
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Q: Should answers to fixed-output challenges be written in a programming language?

Martin EnderWe have a definition of what we consider a valid programming language for answers on PPCG. (If you disagree with this definition, please do so on that other post, and not here.) The one type of challenge where people regularly tend to ignore this is for challenges with fixed output, i.e. mostly ...

@Mego ^
Dennis said something about this some time ago, but I can't find it anymore.
@AlexA. Community consensus is that Kolmogorov complexity challenges can be answered in non-programming languages. (link) — Dennis ♦ Dec 23 '15 at 23:46
There we go.
 
@Downgoat really? can I make 42 mean 1337?
 
no :|
i meant bases
 
@mınxomaτ oo, didn't know that
@Downgoat aw XD
 
7:31 PM
@mınxomaτ I think we should come up with a new policy that puts an end to the obligatory HTML or Text answer to Kolmogorov complexity challenges.
 
@ConorO'Brien though you can always use custom base numbering:
 
@Dennis Mego's question was about text editor keystrokes for notepad. I see no harm in that.
 
s/s/'s/
sorry, the regex was too good to pass up
 
Also not a programming language... I think the current policy does more harm than good.
 
123.toBase('goat') -> otat
 
7:33 PM
@Dennis Where does it any harm?
 
@Downgoat oh, uses goat as the base 4 letters?
 
yes
 
pretty cool
is this in develop?
 
no not pushed yet only on c9
gotta test it first
 
7:34 PM
@mınxomaτ It explicitly allows low quality posts, which either get a ridiculous amount of upvotes (thus encouraging more low quality posts) or get downvoted into oblivion (unexpected for something that is explicitly allowed).
 
also need to fix number parsing
@mınxomaτ I'm pretty sure seeing answers like:
 
@Dennis but surely it allows creative and interesting posts?
 
# ZIP File, 45 bytes
 
I thought that the notepad one was pretty neat
 
is not very interesting
 
7:35 PM
@Downgoat what does 123.tobase("babby") Output?
 
Link to the notepad answer, for the uninformed?
 
@DrGreenEggsandIronMan yyb i think
 
@DrGreenEggsandIronMan I mean, that isn't really a proper numeral system since it maps 0, 2 and 3 all to b
 
@quartata exactly, that's why I'm curious.
 
7:37 PM
@ConorO'Brien I thought so too
 
@ConorO'Brien There is probably some middle ground between requiring addition and primality testing and having no requirements at all. I'd like to come up with something that allows creative answers in non-programming languages, but puts a stop to the answers whose "source code" is just the output.
 
ah shit circular dependency error, brb
 
@Downgoat that doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
 
why not?
 
1 min ago, by quartata
@DrGreenEggsandIronMan I mean, that isn't really a proper numeral system since it maps 0, 2 and 3 all to b
 
7:39 PM
with great power comes great responsibility
 
@Downgoat you should make it specify the base explicitly rather than taking the length of the iterable
 
i considered that but there's really no point over:
a.tobase("123".head(base))
 
You mean aside from the fact that that requires another loop and looks ugly
You could overload it and have both
 
yeah but if you're supplying the custom alphabet there's no need to specify the base again
perhaps I could have both
get Scope() {
    return require('../../../stdlib/primitive/Number/lib');
}
fixing cyclic dependencies 101
 
The point is so that you can have one big digit set and use that for all base conversion
 
7:43 PM
TNB to New Sandboxes Posts, come in
 
yeah idk if it's even better idea to have Number.ALPHABET which contains the alphabet and all base conversion functions use that one variable
 
@Downgoat Could just throw an exception or something if a character appears multiple times in the "base"
 
but the user might want that functionality
 
MATLAB's dec2base works the way I described and iz rly gud
 
@Downgoat but then the function isn't 1 to 1
although i guess it isn't anyway
ha
 
7:48 PM
User can just use str.chars.unqiue == str.chars
 
you could overwrite built-ins?
 
@Downgoat Yeah it doesn't make a whole lot of sense if the base isn't bijective but whatever floats your goat
or sinks it
 
13 mins ago, by Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man
Link to the notepad answer, for the uninformed?
 
@Dennis I see
 
@DrGreenEggsandIronMan There are 2 actually
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A: Print a 10 by 10 grid of asterisks

Micah DombrowskiNotepad, 34 31 keystrokes ********** ^A^C↓^V^A^C↓^V^V^V^V ^ denotes Ctrl-<following character> keypress, ↑↓ are up and down keys, respectively. Props to Crypto for 3 saved keystrokes.

 
7:50 PM
bijective was the word i was looking for
nice
 
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A: Print a 10 by 10 grid of asterisks

Ismael MiguelNotepad++, ??? keystrokes I have no idea how to score this, but I decided to give it a shot since there's an answer on Notepad. Here's the sequence: * * * * * CTRL (hold) A D → D D D D D D D D D

 
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

βετѧ ΛєҫαγA Fractional Year code-golf Intro Fractional time is the year (2016) plus the value (day of year - 1) / number of days in the year. Example calculation Let's say we want to convert the time: 17:34 3rd March 2013 to fractional time. Firstly, you find how many minutes were in 2013: 525600 minu...

 
Tsk tsk, you took your time @NewSandboxedPosts
The Olympics are coming and guess who isn't beating Usain Bolt
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Q: Codegolf - Generate an SHA-256 Hash of a String

AnonymousPretty simple. Create the smallest code (in bytes) that can generate an SHA-256 hash of a string (can accept input or use a defined string).

 
@quartata Is there an actual J operator for #.inv?
@JPeople too
 

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