The Nineteenth Byte

TùxCräftîñg

11:03 AM

@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 you can add some catalogue answers

hi @DestructibleWatermelon

\o/ i have been disconnected from github and lost my edit on your mom wiki

El'endia Starman

Another great one from Math With Bad Drawings: Why Not to Trust Statistics.

TùxCräftîñg

github.com/tuxcrafting/your-mom/wiki updated

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Q: plot decision tree

I have a 440*3 matrix that looks like: 1 144 Title1 1 152 Title2 1 135 Title3 2 3 Title4 2 12 Title5 2 107 Title6 2 31 Title7 3 4 Title8 3 147 Title9 3 0 Title10 4 end Title11 4 0 Title12 4 0 Title13 5 6 Title14 5 7 Title15 5 10 Title16 5 9 Title17 The left co...

code-golf

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

@TùxCräftîñg

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A: "Hello, World!"

Your Mom, 14 bytes 'Hello, World! Explanation '... '... - Push the string. The ending ' is not needed at the end of program - Implicit output

TùxCräftîñg

\o/

Destructible Watermelon

11:10 AM

About that why not to trust stats

I saw a much better example of that

So, you have a drug in trialling

And the results say people who had the drug were more likely to recover than those not

but, the individual gendered results say the opposite of this

TùxCräftîñg

very interesting (french :( ) video about that: youtube.com/watch?v=vs_Zzf_vL2I

Destructible Watermelon

because men are more likely to recover than women, they gave the drug mostly to men.

El'endia Starman

@DestructibleWatermelon Simpson's Paradox?

TùxCräftîñg

exactly the subject of the video

Destructible Watermelon

i guess

El'endia Starman

11:13 AM

Simpson's Paradox isn't as common a misuse of statistics as the examples in that blog post.

Destructible Watermelon

or is it? <_<

TùxCräftîñg

brb

Destructible Watermelon

dun dun dun!

isn't there like, a triple mean thing for more accurate results?

TùxCräftîñg

i am back

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

I don't know how to port this Python code:

>>> for n in range(2, 10):
...     for x in range(2, n):
...         if n % x == 0:
...             print n, 'equals', x, '*', n/x
...             break
...     else:
...         # loop fell through without finding a factor
...         print n, 'is a prime number'
...

to your mom.

TùxCräftîñg

11:26 AM

for now there is no range operator D:

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

D:

TùxCräftîñg

what is a good char for the range operator ?

Åna

R

TùxCräftîñg

i dont use alphabetic chars because your mom use base 24

i think apl iota is good

Åna

What chars are legal, then?

TùxCräftîñg

11:27 AM

every unicode char other than alphanumeric

APL use ⍳ so i use ⍳

Destructible Watermelon

could you not make something that checks if a variable is a certain amount, and then executes the code otherwise?

to do the same thing

TùxCräftîñg

inclusive or exclusive range (II, EE, IE, EI) ?

@DestructibleWatermelon =(<code here>;)@

Åna

U+00AE then

®

Destructible Watermelon

and then loops, and increments the variable?

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

@TùxCräftîñg IE.

flawr

11:32 AM

plane-crash

TùxCräftîñg

@flawr can you please stop posting plane crash ;_;

flawr

sauce

I still don't get how the shadown and the actul plane fi together.

TùxCräftîñg

github.com/tuxcrafting/your-mom/wiki added some ops

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

@TùxCräftîñg Erm, I wanted the range [start, end).

If you want to add it, add a separate command and leave ® intact.

TùxCräftîñg

[ is exclusive and ( is inclusive, right ?

or i am wrong ?

Destructible Watermelon

11:39 AM

how do you loop in this language?

TùxCräftîñg

@DestructibleWatermelon @ pop a function and execute it while peeking the TOS yield a value other than 0

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

As in,

>>> range(10)
[0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9]

Destructible Watermelon

but the function gets popped...

oh wait, nvm

TùxCräftîñg

@DestructibleWatermelon ¥(#_)@ will print 0 indefinitevely for example (best orthograph ever)

Destructible Watermelon

I wonder if it's turing complete...

TùxCräftîñg

11:41 AM

the wiki is here: github.com/tuxcrafting/your-mom/wiki

@DestructibleWatermelon it's turing complete

(i think)

Destructible Watermelon

proof?

ok

TùxCräftîñg

@DestructibleWatermelon Your Mom can emulate brainfuck

Destructible Watermelon

ok then

ArtOfCode

@TùxCräftîñg I get the feeling this could attract some out of context flags...

Destructible Watermelon

I like how one of BFs main functions is just being a turing complete language

TùxCräftîñg

11:43 AM

@ArtOfCode D:

yesterday, by mbomb007

I think someone should create a language called "Your Mom", just so that during an argument over which language is a better one, they can interject that "Your mom is a better language"

@ArtOfCode v

Destructible Watermelon

imagine this conversation though

"Your language isn't turing complete! It can't emulate Brainfuck"

TùxCräftîñg

> Jelly is the best language! Your mom is better.

xD

Destructible Watermelon

"Your mom can't emulate brainfuck!"

TùxCräftîñg

yes it can ._.

my connection is slow

really slow

> L is Turing complete because it is possible to convert a brainfuck program to L

the lazyest turing-completeness proof

github.com/tuxcrafting/your-mom/wiki forgotten some ops

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

12:02 PM

@TùxCräftîñg second laziest: creating a brainfuck interpreter

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

Well, now that we have our range function, let's try to implement a primality test with it.

>>> for n in range(2, 10):
...     for x in range(2, n):
...         if n % x == 0:
...             print n, 'equals', x, '*', n/x
...             break
...     else:
...         # loop fell through without finding a factor
...         print n, 'is a prime number'
...

TùxCräftîñg

for loops dont exists, there is only while loops

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

Then, we implement a for loop in terms of while loops.

Midnightas

Hey guys

TùxCräftîñg

hey

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

12:07 PM

Hey

Midnightas

On my mobile phone right now

TùxCräftîñg

ok

Midnightas

An wild silence appeared just when I joiner

TùxCräftîñg

found this when wandering on the intenet

2

._.

Midnightas

Wow

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

12:14 PM

halp does anyone know how to make a single server from multiple computers in different physical locations

TùxCräftîñg

urbit

Midnightas

VMs

Oh wait, I read that wrong

TùxCräftîñg

@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ ^^^

Midnightas

Do you mind, tux if I use some of that regex codes on the ultimath repo?

Credit is given

TùxCräftîñg

@Midnightas my projects are licensed CC0, so feel free to use it

but if you give credits this is cool ;)

Midnightas

12:17 PM

Hooray, thanks!

I will :D

My Internet money is running out, so bye D:

TùxCräftîñg

D:

addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/stack-alert

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

@TùxCräftîñg we still have to get a for loop in terms of while loops working in your mom.

TùxCräftîñg

?

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

19 mins ago, by zʏᴀʙiɴ101

>>> for n in range(2, 10):
...     for x in range(2, n):
...         if n % x == 0:
...             print n, 'equals', x, '*', n/x
...             break
...     else:
...         # loop fell through without finding a factor
...         print n, 'is a prime number'
...

You said that there are no for loops.

TùxCräftîñg

you can use a counter and a while loop

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

12:24 PM

How exactly? :3

TùxCräftîñg

i = x
while i > 0:
    <code>
    i += 1

you just have to translate it in your mom

but idk the your mom equivalent

but it's simple to transform

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

-._(._.)_.- Whatever.

TùxCräftîñg

(<test>):$(<code>;:$)@;

untested

but here is the idea

ven

12:48 PM

mmh, do we have no tag for questions related to "outputting a program's own source code"

TùxCräftîñg

@ven quine ?

ven

@TùxCräftîñg thanks!

how do your pronounce that btw? :c

@ven kwajn in IPA

@TùxCräftîñg thanks

;)

1:01 PM

@TùxCräftîñg apart from that?

urbit isn't exactly what i'm looking for

especially since i can't use it

TùxCräftîñg

so idk

hi @Poke

Poke

hi

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

@Poke mon

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 msg.replace(/$/, ' GO')

TùxCräftîñg

s/GO/Red/

pkmn red is the best

like emacs

Poke

1:06 PM

@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 mon

emacs is the best if you ignore vim

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

help is anyone good at server architecture

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ s/GO//

TùxCräftîñg

s/^s\/GO/s\/ GO/

LegionMammal978

@TùxCräftîñg Weird, I pronounce it more like /kwaɪn/

TùxCräftîñg

@LegionMammal978 i have trusted this converter

because idk IPA and idk how to exactly pronounce english

35°C ;_;

Fatalize

1:13 PM

kwajn is right I'm pretty sure

kwaɪn would be close but too much emphasis on an ɪ sound

TùxCräftîñg

hurray for unicode ௵

LegionMammal978

@TùxCräftîñg I just used Wikipedia's description of the symbols, also see this, this, this‌, and this (set to IPA)

TùxCräftîñg

1:29 PM

okay

Business Cat

Isn't it pronounced like "nine" but with qu instead?

TùxCräftîñg

@BusinessCat it's exactly that

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Fireworks code-golf ascii-art Make me some fireworks ! And since we are super-late for the 4th make them as quick (read short) as possible ! Input 2 number, the fuse and the radius. The fuse define the lenght of the tail, the last character of the tail is the center of the explosion. The t...

Optimizer

pokemon.alexonsager.net/42/97

TùxCräftîñg

:O

wtf

i am implementing chocolate compressor in your mom

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1:46 PM

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

I have a 440*3 matrix that looks like: 1 144 Title1 1 152 Title2 1 135 Title3 2 3 Title4 2 12 Title5 2 107 Title6 2 31 Title7 3 4 Title8 3 147 Title9 3 0 Title10 4 end Title11 4 0 Title12 4 0 Title13 5 6 Title14 5 7 Title15 5 10 Title16 5 9 Title17 The left co...

Business Cat

Combine Mankey and Geodude for the best pokemon ever

Mandude

Hi folks !

Hi

How's it going?

good

1:51 PM

Hello.

flawr

@TùxCräftîñg reminds me of a chameleon

Katenkyo

@MatthewRoh 0/10 would flag as spamm :D

TùxCräftîñg

pokemon.alexonsager.net/63/83

Mew + Mewtwo = Mewtwo

user214599

c:

TùxCräftîñg

Mr. Dude +1 pokemon.alexonsager.net/122/74

Mama Fun Roll

2:02 PM

I just learned Julia!!!

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A: Unzip some numbers

Julia, 74 bytes x->join([" "^min(x,a)*"-$("$(a+1)"^(x<a?0:a<9?(x-a)*2:1))-"for a=0:9],' ') First Julia answer! Tips are appreciated. Try it online! (x=5)

Katenkyo

Hourra, I can leave my current (and boring) project for a much more interesting one! :D

Business Cat

How do you do full width text?

Katenkyo

2:33 PM

@Optimizer I start to understand why they said there were lots of spam in this chat

2

TimmyD

Enough with the Pokespam.

Please.

Quill

Chat flags are serious matter, please don't use them to flag pictures of pokemon

TimmyD

@Quill Have you seen the chat history?

Rainbolt

@Quill I didn't flag anything, but I will flag pictures of Pokemon if they become obnoxious in my opinion regardless of whether you say I should or not.

4

Quill

and I will decline them every time

Rainbolt

2:37 PM

That's your prerogative

Quill

Enough is enough @Matthew @Tux, if you want to continue looking at these pokemon photos, take it to a new room

TùxCräftîñg

i have stopped

user214599

M3 T00

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

I only did one pic.

Quill

@Rainbolt I'm not telling you it's not an issue, because it is, but using the normal flags is likely to do nothing but annoy the users on the other end. Leaving a moderator flag with a short desc of the situation generally guarantees someone to to take the time to help you guys out

Poke

2:41 PM

best practice concerning semicolons in sql sprocs?

Rainbolt

The flag is for spam or offensive messages. Someone in the room thinks it is spam. You don't. Your opinion carries a little more weight than a normal chat user because of your moderatorship, and I respect that as long as you don't decide that suddenly everyone else should have the same opinion.

Just decline the flag and say you don't think it has reached the level of "spam".

@Poke I read somewhere that eventually they will be required. Merge statements require them anyway, so I always use them

quartata

Jeez what happened to this room

Looks like a Pokemon dirty bomb went off

TimmyD

> Although the semicolon is not required for most statements in this version of SQL Server, it will be required in a future version.

@Poke msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms177563.aspx

Poke

ok cool. thanks guys

Katenkyo

@quartata It sums it up, the effects lasted for far more than one hour ^^

orlp

2:46 PM

@quartata you lost your opportunity to say 'pokebomb'

Nathan Merrill

it amazing how bad of an architect I am

LegionMammal978

        } catch (error){
            console.log("AN ERROR OCCURRED, U DONE MESSED UP. FIX IT NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW FIXED IT NOW! " + error)
            throw error;
        }

._.

quartata

Yeah, Downgoat is really good at error messages

Quill

that was my code :)

Nathan Merrill

for some reason, I thought it would be a good idea to enforce "1 location per item"

aka, you couldn't put the same "Wall" object in 20 different locations

Quill

2:47 PM

@Rainbolt meh, normal flags should be context less, and expecting users to check the context of a flagged post in order to understand how offensive / bad it was is a really nice thought, but a sad limitation of the system

quartata

@Quill Clearly your time here has corrupted your CR ideals

Rainbolt

Geez. My Facebook feed is entirely Pokemon, Trump memes, and <something> lives matter

Quill

a moderator flag generally expects the moderator to intervene, not just decide how to vote

@quartata something like that, not that clean code and golfing have to be exclusive events

Katenkyo

@Rainbolt Necrophile's wife lives matter!

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

@LegionMammal978 We couldn’t find any code matching 'AN ERROR OCCURRED, U DONE MESSED UP.' Where was it?

Katenkyo

2:52 PM

function a()a,b,c=c,a,b end
function b()a,b,c=b,c,a end
function c() --[[do some useful stuff]] end

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

@Katenkyo Lua? :3

Katenkyo

@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 Yes, I discovered that you can organise a rotation of your functions' names :D

Business Cat

That is sickening

Katenkyo

One true usage of this is string.gsub,print=print,string.gsub but way less funny, as it's not written in the function themselves ^^

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Q: An alternating double Quine?

Thie classic Idea of a quine is simple, make a program that feeds out it's source as a result. This is a good challenge for many new programmers, and remains an interesting concept to this day. An alternating Quine is a different task all together. This is another sort of quine that uses a sou...

quine

LegionMammal978

2:56 PM

@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 That's odd, my local copy doesn't seem to be synced with remote...

Quill

On the earlier subject of flag context, I was working on a userscript to provide flag context to flags :)

TimmyD

@MartinEnder also, you're a nice mod. I like this stack. — tuskiomi 8 mins ago

D'awww

Lembik

hmm.. now have the 5th most popular unanswered question of all time :)

as well as the 4th

LegionMammal978

@Lembik You talking about this? v

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Q: Longest common substring

This challenge is about writing code to solve the following problem. Given two strings A and B, your code should output the start and end indices of a substring of A with the following properties. The substring of A should also match some substring of B. There should be no longer substring of ...

code-golf string restricted-complexity

Lembik

@LegionMammal978 that's the 4th one

codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/84592/… is the 5th

I can see why the Longest Common Substring one has no answer (I'll redo it as fastest-code at some point)... Disappointed by the other one though

TùxCräftîñg

3:03 PM

def compress(s):
    letters = []
    for c in s:
        if c not in letters: letters.append(c)
    comp = list(map(ord, letters)) + [0xFF]
    buf = 0
    b = False
    for c in s:
        if b:
            comp.append((buf << 4) + letters.index(c))
            b = False
        else:
            buf = letters.index(c)
            b = True
    return comp
def decompress(b):
    letters = []
    i = 0
    while b[i] != 0xFF:
        letters.append(b[i])
        i += 1
    i += 1
    s = ""
    for c in b[i:]:

perfect for kolmogorov-complexity

user214599

Could there be a program that prints "Hello, World!" and prints "Hello, World!" when reversed too?(Without Builtins Like Help, Wardoq and HQ9+)

Business Cat

Probably in Stack Cats

I don't know much about it, but every program has to be a palindrome

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

@BusinessCat Every program has to be symmetric.

Not just a palindrome.

LegionMammal978

@MatthewRoh

class A{static void Main(){System.Console.Write("Hello, World!");}}//}};)"!dlroW ,olleH"(etirW.elosnoC.metsyS{)(niaM diov citats{A ssalc

TùxCräftîñg

@MatthewRoh i think you can find some things here

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Q: Palindrome Hello, World

Your task is to create a program that prints "Greetings, Planet!" exactly to the console. Seems simple enough, right? Well, here's the trick. The code must be a palindrome, meaning it reads from right to left the same as in left to right. Standard loopholes are NOT allowed.

code-golf restricted-source hello-world palindrome

Business Cat

3:10 PM

Every answer is just <code to print hello world><comment><backwards code to print hello world>

LegionMammal978

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A: Palindrome Hello, World

Mathematica, 52 bytes Print@"Greetings, Planet!""!tenalP ,sgniteerG"@tnirP Also generates a Null "!tenalP ,sgniteerG"[tnirP] which doesn't get printed.

Business Cat

Or possibly end the program instead of comment

LegionMammal978

@BusinessCat ^^

user214599

3:28 PM

ok

TùxCräftîñg

3:46 PM

0

A: Display "Happy Easter!"

Your Mom (non-competing), 331 bytes Decode the string and decompress it using the Jelly compressor 'IF8KfCgpL1z/AQAAAQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAEREREAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAQIwMAAwMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAQREREVAAAAAAAQAAAAAAAAAwMjAxEDAwEREBERABERABAAEAABEREAAREQAREwMQAREQARETAyMAEVMDYBADABBzABBzAwMDADABEVBgEANhEVA...

Nathan Merrill

I've got a challenge where the input is a boolean and a block of text, and the output is a block of text

how should I format the examples?

TùxCräftîñg

<bool>
<block of text>

->

<block of text>

Nathan Merrill

mmm, the arrow is a good idea

TùxCräftîñg

> 468 Views

Nathan Merrill

hmmm, nevermind

TùxCräftîñg

3:50 PM

:O

Nathan Merrill

it looks like part of the block

TùxCräftîñg

so add newlines before and after the arrow

Nathan Merrill

I think I'm just going to do a newline

TùxCräftîñg

ok

Nathan Merrill

hmm

bah, I hate how ambigous blocks can be

user214599

3:52 PM

Be sure to upload Your Mom to meta.codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/6918/…

TùxCräftîñg

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A: What programming languages have been created by PPCG users?

Your Mom Your Mom is a language that I have created after a message of mbomb007 on The Nineteenth Byte: I think someone should create a language called "Your Mom", just so that during an argument over which language is a better one, they can interject that "Your mom is a better language" S...

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Q: Ascii art reflection

In this challenge, you will be given a text block, and you need to perform reflection on the text. Input: A string to be reflected. Putting each line in an array is not allowed. A boolean where True indicates Y reflection and False indicates X reflection The two inputs can be passed in any ...

code-golf ascii-art

TùxCräftîñg

4:13 PM

brb

back

TùxCräftîñg

4:32 PM

;_;

mınxomaτ

2

TùxCräftîñg

i dont speak english very well but i think this english is invalid ._.

anyway

hi @El'endiaStarman

El'endia Starman

4:47 PM

@TùxCräftîñg Oh hey, I remember this.

hello

mınxomaτ

Oh nice, both Suits and Mr. Robot premiere today.

orlp

you are all ＡＥＳＴＨＥＴＩＣ

TùxCräftîñg

:O

El'endia Starman

Great job you guys who posted Pokémon pictures - you turned half the transcript into pure noise.

TùxCräftîñg

:D

El'endia Starman

4:49 PM

I'm very strongly considering chucking it all into Trash.

mınxomaτ

@El'endiaStarman Nothing of value will be lost

Fatalize

It's obviously noise but I don't really understand the point of moving things to trash once they're passed anyway

TùxCräftîñg

2 mins ago, by El'endia Starman

Great job you guys who posted Pokémon pictures - you turned half the transcript into pure noise.

@Fatalize ^

Fatalize

yeah but do people really read the transcript?

TùxCräftîñg

to find a message

or understand a very long conversation

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

4:53 PM

Of course, ~~angering~~ you have already angered those who posted Pokemon fusion pictures.

El'endia Starman

→ 114 messages moved to Trash

@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 I don't really care at this point.

@Fatalize ahem I do.

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

Including me, (as always) a completely non-guilty person.

Fatalize

No! I got invited to trash I'm so mad! My only message was "So yeah, about that chatiquette noise thing…"! /s

El'endia Starman

@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 Pssssh. "non-guilty"

TùxCräftîñg

> a completely non-guilty person.

in Trash, 3 hours ago, by zʏᴀʙiɴ101

ahem

El'endia Starman

4:59 PM

@Fatalize This is actually mostly why I let another instance slide the last time it happened (yesterday, I think). This time was just too much though. Literally half the transcript was taken up by (relatively) big one-boxes of Pokémon pictures.

I wish I had been here a few hours ago. I coulda nipped it in the bud and sent people to another room.

Fatalize

@El'endiaStarman Pokémon GO really got a strong effect on some people :p

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