The Nineteenth Byte - 2016-07-13 (page 2 of 8)

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7:00 AM

@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ no im using import which node doesn't support

I'm also targetting older versions of node

idk

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

@Downgoat plus that

Anonymous

Solution: don't target older versions

though i could make it require and make Cheddar a LOT faster

Anonymous

By the time you release Cheddar, everybody will have caught up to the latest version

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

downloads pokemon go apk off mirror

7:01 AM

and my lot a mean faster than a goat running towards an unlimited tin can supply it just recieved

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

@Downgoat How will it be alot faster?

Hmm. I wonder if they transmit data encrypted... if not, I can think of some interesting things to do if I can reverse engineer the protocol.

@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ babel import is slow because it tries to solve circ deps. on itself which results in lots of uneeded FS reads

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

@Geobits 1. interesting? 2. how would encryption prevent that

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

strawpoll.me/10735245

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

7:02 AM

@Geobits brb decompiling

Anonymous

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan Ahh crap now I've gotta add it all up

Anonymous

Does virtual/cloud storage count?

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

Uhmmm...

Actually idk

yeah thats a good question

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan answer: too much

7:03 AM

@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ 1) If I can ping the server without opening the app and get useful info back, I could save battery by only going into the app when I know something's nearby. 2) Trying to reverse engineer encrypted trafic is not something I want to try.

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

I have no clue how much cloud-storage I have available. Probably quite a bit through dropbox-google combined but I don't really know.

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

@Geobits but if you have the full source, why would you need to reverse engineer it?

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Damn. Who here has 10TB+?

I doubt I'll get the full source in an easily readable form. Most publishers take at least basic steps to minimize that. I'm sure Niantic knows what they're doing.

Anonymous

I have 5 TB just in internal hard drives across the 3 computers and 2 laptops that my gf and I collectively own

7:05 AM

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan ._.

@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ I was more interested in the apk for the data it might have. Assuming it stores some things in the app data, you'd probably have enough for a mini-wiki right there. Max CP based on level/species, etc.

cheddar> for(i=0;i<5;i+=1){for(j=0;j<5;j+=1){print[i,j]}}
[0, 0]
[0, 1]
[0, 2]
[0, 3]
[0, 4]
[1, 0]
[1, 1]
[1, 2]
[1, 3]
[1, 4]
[2, 0]
[2, 1]
[2, 2]
[2, 3]
[2, 4]
[3, 0]
[3, 1]
[3, 2]
[3, 3]
[3, 4]
[4, 0]
[4, 1]
[4, 2]
[4, 3]
[4, 4]

\o/ \o/ \o/

Anonymous

Plus 2.5 TB in external hard drives, close to 300 GB in portable media (USB drives and SD cards)...

My SSD is 256gb... o_o

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

I have a little bit less than 3 TB for myself. If you count my work laptop (which I don't technically own) I'd be just over 5TB.

7:07 AM

(I really should get around to getting an external backup drive some time soon, though.)

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

@Geobits Decompiled apk to smali, has 125MB of resources

Have no idea what it is yet

:D

Anonymous

@Doorknob I use SSDs and HDDs in a manual hybrid setup

@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ wat you can decompile apk?

that seems insecure

wat if i kept a SQL database password in apk

Probably loads of images, and basic databases for stats.

@Downgoat Umm, don't do that?

7:08 AM

:| too late

Anonymous

I'm going with 5-10 TB just based on physical storage in my apartment

@Downgoat APK is really just ZIP anyway, so...

o_o

Well, more like a JAR, but...

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

@Geobits Pokemon Go is Unity-based though, it will be a pain to extract assets from

7:09 AM

@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ Hmm. I have some experience reading and deciphering game DBs. Like I said, I'm going to give it a shot tomorrow and see if I get anywhere.

Anonymous

@Downgoat Obviously you would use an assymetric cipher with the server for that

My node.js is telling me ... is an unexpected token in var hold = [...text];, anyone know why? I'm on node 4.4.7

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

@Geobits There are tools for decompiling Unity assets, it's just that they're painful to use

@charredgrass it doesn't support spreading

@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ Even better :D

7:10 AM

@charredgrass Works for me (although I'm on 6.3.0 apparently)

use 6.x.x

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

strawpoll.me/10735275

alright thanks

though you should probably keep LTS installed

> Tor

Tor is a web browser?

7:11 AM

Yes

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan yay im in the minority again as Safari :D

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@Doorknob Yes?

Why not?

Anonymous

The Tor Browser is just Firefox with a bunch of security/privacy extensions and preconfigured to use Tor

^

@Downgoat I'm the other 1-vote option... .-.

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

7:12 AM

IK, but it's called "The tor browser", so I thought I might as well add it.

I couldn't think of any others.

@Doorknob a lot of other people use firefox tho

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan w3m, elinks. lynx? :P

surf

If I could select multiple I'd say Chrome + FireFox

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

I rarely use firefox, but when I do it's usually iceweasel cause I was too lazy to install anything else.

Destructible Watermelon

hello again!

7:13 AM

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan It's usually what now?

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

o/

user214599

Uhh What are you guys talking about

oh no

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

Iceweasel. It's debian's version of firefox.

i spelt Writeable wrong in cheddar code

Anonymous

7:14 AM

I use Chrome almost exclusively. I use Firefox when something on Chrome goes wrong.

>_>

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

^^

Anonymous

@Downgoat You spelled it wrong here, too

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan Ohh, yeah, that.

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@Doorknob I have heard of none of those.

7:14 AM

@Mego I'm the reverse, Firefox primarily and Chromium installed mostly for the auto-translation feature :P

@Mego [tag:blame-ho— sigh

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan They're the 3 most popular CLI web browsers (AFAIK)

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OH, interesting. I've never even tried using a CLI browser.

@Doorknob curl-masterrace

curl? Real programmers manually enter the HTTP requests with netcat.

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan I use w3m to dump HTML attachments into mutt, but that's about as far as my experience in that area goes :P

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

7:17 AM

HTTP? Real programmers embark on a several week trek to the server to write down the binary file they need by hand.

relevant xkcd.com/378

8 hours ago, by Doorknob

http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/real.programmers.html

@charredgrass there is also always vim plugin manager to do the job

(^^ a highly entertaining read, by the way)

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@Doorknob Vimscript question: Can you think of any non-hacky way to make this function implicitly end if vim is quit before the delimiter is entered?

7:18 AM

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan still ಠ_ಠ for using pthon

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@Downgoat Please point me in the direction of the officially supported JS-nvim client.

:P

22.8% percent python is still 22.8% from righteousness

@Downgoat Potato Tubers Have Only Nicknames

._.

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan I think you're much better at vimscript than I. :P No idea.

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

7:20 AM

Drat.

Pthon = slightly golfed python derivative, halfway between pyth and python

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

I constantly run into V problems, and I always hesitate to ask on vi.SE, because I know the reaction will always be "What the hell? Why would you ever want to do that? I think you have the XY problem."

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan just tell them you're doing it for an esolang. They'll still think you're crazy but they won't bug you about it :P

Anonymous

@Doorknob I like Chrome for the fact that I have a lot of my digital life tied to my Google account. Having a browser that interacts well with that makes me happy.

@Mego it also makes NSA happy :P

7:22 AM

Chrome is better at cleaning the history than Firefox for my private web-searching..

^

@Mego That's fair. I don't use a lot of the Google services outside of search (except when school requires me to...).

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@Downgoat Yeah, I suppose. It'd still be obnoxious to explain it every single time though.

@Downgoat LOL, why'd you star vigor? I'm going to delete it once I figure out implicit command-ends and merge it.

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan because it uses less python than V

Hooray, upgrading node solved my problem

Anonymous

7:25 AM

@Downgoat I really don't get your Python hate

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

Last time I got a straight answer out of him, he said it was because python lacks classes and self.

:P

Anonymous

I... what?

@Mego i've explained it more than once but long story, short: python is ugly

@Mego Downgoat's hating Python for no reason is almost a meme at this point :P

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gasp! A mod... TALKING ABOUT MEMES?

7:27 AM

^

hides

Anonymous

grabs eggs

you can't hide, you're stuck on the door silly :P

user image

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@Downgoat 2fpcwJS

7:28 AM

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan :D

@Doorknob wat

@Downgoat It's a hiding doorknob.

how do you know so much about doorknobs ._.

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

What's it hiding from?

Destructible Watermelon

Experience :p

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

7:29 AM

Mego's eggs?

@Doorknob wait this isn't you!

@Downgoat he IS a doorknob

thats how he knows!

THIS is doorknob:

Jul 9 at 21:55, by Doorknob

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I can polymorph at will

Destructible Watermelon

:o

7:31 AM

@Doorknob there's some joke about polymorphing and objects here I just can't think of a good one

spongeknob morphpants

@Doorknob can you polymorph your avatar into a goat? :3

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Why would he want to?

Why wouldn't anybody want to?!

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Who wants a goat avatar?

7:32 AM

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan ;__;

user image

@AayushAgrawal Q_______Q

y u do dis

@Midnightas these are totally the doorknobs at my house

:30997898 rip

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

wait nvm that's not even a dooeknob

lol

7:33 AM

you have to pat your hand on the goat

oh shit its tomorrow >_>

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strawpoll.me/10735351

Destructible Watermelon

Remember how I was making the programming language with the registers that affect the stack that affects the tape?

then he baahs and the door items

i need some sleep bai

7:34 AM

@DestructibleWatermelon if it has a github, put it in the language database

Bai

Destructible Watermelon

No, I'm still making the spec lol

aww, k

Anonymous

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan Ahh crap I clicked the wrong one. Pretend one of the single votes is a double vote.

I prefer both

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan In most languages there's a difference between the two

In ex. Bash, double quotes do substitution while single quotes don't

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

7:36 AM

Not most that I've used.

So I only use double quotes when using substitution syntax

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

Actually, I suppose python is the exception, not the rule.

I'm backwards, most of the languages I use do have them different.

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

JS is like python

user214599

@Downgoat What if those goat doorknobs got upside down?

flip the image

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

7:37 AM

in Ruby single and double quotes are slightly different

@MatthewRoh then its a new testcase for upgoat downgoat

user214599

lol

Who can tell me what this does?

"|".join(map(lambda s: "(?:%s)" % s, regexs))

Not a python expert here, just trying to rewrite this in Java
regexs is a string list

turns ['a','b','c'] into '(?:a)|(?:b)|(?:c)'

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

If regexs was ['a', 'b', 'c'], it returns (?:a)|(?:b)|(?:c)

Dammit, ninja.

7:38 AM

Aha, thanks!

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan hah, even with the same placeholders :P

Anonymous

@Doorknob My software engineering professor would love this article. He's on SIGADA :P

how do you guys think so fast... I was barely at the lambda...

Anonymous

We use Python way too much

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

Clearly I wasn't fast enough...

Anonymous

7:40 AM

Also that can be a lot golfier

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

How would you do it?

Anonymous

lambda*a:"|".join(map("(?:{})".format,a))

I don't need to golf it, I just need to rewrite it in Java

There is the ugly '(?:%s)'%')|(?:'.join(x) :P

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

Or if you just want it to be golfier, you could use a different language

Anonymous

7:42 AM

@Midnightas Java 8?

Yes

I'm using String.join

I'm doing it a pretty crappy way

But it works

user212619

Hi anyone is there?

Hey

wat

This isn't a Salesforce chatroom.

7:44 AM

^

You might want to try:

(Or one of their chatrooms.)

yeah, don't ask us, we're just programmers who make things difficult

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

@Doorknob Why is that blank?

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan Is it? Shows up fine for me.

Invisible to me, but when I hover over @DrGreenEggsandIronMan's message it mysteriously appears

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

7:47 AM

OH, I get it now.

TùxCräftîñg

HAI

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The dark colorscheme.

ohhh

haha

7:48 AM

Oh, whoops, heh, yeah

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

Woopsies, wrong one

Wrong screenshot? :P

lol

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user image

at least it was PPCG related and not like, a nude of yourself

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

7:48 AM

Hahahaha

user214599

There was a dark colorscheme?

Oh, I forgot to style the (removed) in chat.

Anonymous

@Midnightas The best method I can come up with is values.stream().map(s->"(?:%s)".format(s)).collect(Collectors.joining("|"))

Anonymous

Well, the best method in Java

8 mins ago, by Midnightas

I don't need to golf it, I just need to rewrite it in Java

Anonymous

7:49 AM

The best method altogether would be to not use Java

D:

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

Streams = the best way in Java

@Mego wait: method referring to the fact that it is a method (as in function) or method as in a way of doing things?

Anonymous

That's not even meant to be golfed - that's literally the only reasonable way to write it in Java without using unnecessary loops

Anonymous

Method as in a way of doing things

7:50 AM

user image

Much better.

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

Whoops, I uploaded the wrong one again. Here's the real one:

user image

10/10

11/10

Destructible Watermelon

hi!

Hi @DestructibleWatermelon

TùxCräftîñg

7:51 AM

hi

Destructible Watermelon

So, I have designed most of the spec now

for my layered language

user214599

How can I use the dark colorscheme?

Cool

@cat It's a userstyle I wrote (still WIP, but fairly comprehensive). (Whoops, I forgot it would show up in the screenshot. :P) — Doorknob ♦ 2 days ago

TùxCräftîñg

353 views on your mom repo the quadruple of golisp

7:52 AM

I'll get around to posting it on meta or somewhere once it's in a reasonable state (i.e. doesn't break A51 horribly)

Destructible Watermelon

Data and commands are used the same; data is modulo'd to get the command.

user214599

Oh.

TùxCräftîñg

hmmm a malbolge like ?

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user image

2

user214599

@Doorknob How can I use the CSS?

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

7:53 AM

\o/ Do I have to do it again?

@TùxCräftîñg Speaking of your mom: It's still borked on my C9 workspace.

Now.. EVEN MORE STARS

Anonymous

@Midnightas Working Java code

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

I see a stack-overflow in the near future...

Or I didn't check.

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

7:53 AM

oh whoops i forgot to make PPCG-Design's dark theme apply to chat

@MatthewRoh I have it installed with Stylish on Firefox

Anonymous

> implying A51 isn't already broken

TùxCräftîñg

@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 ;_; for now run src/yourmom.js but it strane that babel dont work

@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ Say, did you ever figure out how to style the highlight animations when jumping to a comment or an answer via a link? They seem to be done via JS :/

@MatthewRoh It's a UserStyle.

Destructible Watermelon

7:54 AM

Control flow is made by jumping forward and back, in the stack commands

user214599

@Doorknob Any way to do it on chrome?

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

@Doorknob I never thought of that, brb

@MatthewRoh There should be a Stylish on Chrome as well, I believe

@MatthewRoh chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/…

TùxCräftîñg

and on firefox ?

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

7:55 AM

never thought = I don't think the dark theme is very good at all (partly since I did it)

@TùxCräftîñg addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/stylish

user214599

Ah, Found it.

TùxCräftîñg

(i think it will mess up with downgoat's ppcg userscript)

@Doorknob Hmm, you should probably upload it on userstyles.org.

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

@Doorknob D: meanwhile, I'm trying to use dark theme, halp (half the text is still black/was reverted to dark colors)

7:57 AM

@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 Like I said, it's nowhere near complete yet

user214599

Wait I can't install the UserStyle you gave me

@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ Er, yeah, have fun with that

Destructible Watermelon

my sandbox post has been in for 3-4 days, no comments

why?

is is that poor?

@DestructibleWatermelon Patience, grasshopper

Destructible Watermelon

0

A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

king-of-the-hill KotH Chess Warriors. This game will be based on fairy chess, but really could be imagined to be anything else. Submissions will include both: A function that determines the moves of the piece (as in, how the piece can move), called at the start, and a function that determines ...

7:58 AM

@MatthewRoh Why not?

user214599

I don't know How to apply it :/

I'm not sure how it works on Chrome, but you should be able to download the CSS file from my dotfiles repo on Github and go from there

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