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9:00 PM
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ link?
 
@Upgoat Ah, I remember that. Link?
 
aaaaaand that's why we don't limit new users ;-)
 
Anonymous
@bkul Click the timestamp
 
@Mego Thanks I am nub
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ the challenge
@Upgoat was 2015 though
 
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'BʀɪᴇɴLanguage succession answer-chaining string Given two words (two strings of lowercase-only letters separated by a space) as input to a program PX written in language X, output two programs in languages Y and Z such that program PY outputs the first word and program PZ outputs the second word. Yo...

 
@Upgoat It was their only post and received 1241 rep of it :p
 
Anonymous
I apparently didn't upvote it the first time around
 
> new here please give me all teh repz and hintz
ftfy /s
 
Anonymous
9:03 PM
I've been considering making a math-focused golfing library/extension for Python
 
Anonymous
Like Sage/Numpy/Scipy but golfier
 
@Mego I don't thinks that's a good idea to use. It'll probably get downvoted
Damon Utocoreft >_>
 
lol
hahaha at that history
 
Anonymous
Well I'd just call it a new language (Mython?) :P
 
@Upgoat why would that get downvoted?
Or just Python + MyLib
 
9:06 PM
@Upgoat should I do value instanceof CheddarNumber or value instanceof CheddarNumber.constructor? This type system is confusing
 
Anonymous
Well making it a standalone language would be better, because it wouldn't require from mython import*
 
But it would literally just be python with an auto-imported library?
 
@Mego exec 'from mython import*\n'+file.open(sys.argv[1]).read()
 
Anonymous
@Liam Mostly
 
@LegionMammal978 value instanceof CheddarNumber checks if value isa CheddarNumber
 
9:08 PM
k thx
Just curious, is implicit casting a thing?
 
For some reason that sounds "cheatier" to me
 
Anonymous
That's how it would start, but I envision it branching out to more of a standalone language
 
That sounds better.
Like I wouldn't like someone creating a "PythonN" language which was just python with numpy already imported.
 
^ Someone with some sense there
 
Anonymous
9:11 PM
It would be tacky to me, too, but it's just 18 bytes :P
 
@LegionMammal978 lol
 
Anonymous
I'll start it as a library, and then evolve it into its own language
 
user image
2
 
@RikerW That's a cat
2
 
yes
its my friend
 
Anonymous
Kitties are cuties
 
@bkul hahaha
@Mego yes
give me hug i am kitty
 
@LegionMammal978 Yes you are! You're a kitty!
 
i am cat give me hug not comic hug
I NEED TEH HUGZ
 
9:14 PM
@LegionMammal978 this does not apply to Riker apparently though ._.
wat why does it say you are @RikerW but you are Easterly on PPCG
 
@RikerW On the one hand, the murder of anyone is a tragedy. On the other hand...dangit.
 
@RikerW This image took a second to load and for a moment I was convinced you posted a gif of the spinner that Stack Exchange uses. I was rather peeved.
 
@El'endiaStarman ^
 
@Upgoat because im that everywhere else iirc
@El'endiaStarman ikr
@Poke lol
 
@RikerW idk whether to :| ._. >_> O_O O_o or ...
 
9:15 PM
o_O
 
@Upgoat Well, does Cheddar have implicit casting?
 
not yet iirc
@Upgoat why any of them?
brb changing name there
 
@LegionMammal978 idk
 
@Upgoat wait it says that now?
 
should be fixed
 
^^
 
refreshed chat profile
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ waaaatttt
 
9:17 PM
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ For me, here, it says it's Easterly
 
how were you able to eleven
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ is secrit elevnr confimd?
 
jsut went and reselected PPCG on my chat parent profile
@Upgoat not
 
;-;
 
im not shog totally
@Upgoat you seen this yet?
 
9:18 PM
I refreshed the profile but you still show as Easterly Irk in small caps here
 
@trichoplax i see RikerW
 
@Maltysen As your message came up and scrolled the page it changed to RikerW. Weird...
 
O_O @StackExchange wtf
 
@RikerW need a hand?
 
O_O
im rikerw again
@ArtOfCode yes pls
 
9:20 PM
What can I do for you?
 
Parent site shows as Arqade on your profile
 
@RikerW yeah it was the rickroll one right?
Jun 2 at 1:03, by Upgoat
$ curl v.ht/riker
<html><head><title>riker</title><META http-equiv="refresh" content="0;URL=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ"></head><body><a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ">Moved Here</a>.</body></html>
 
@Upgoat >_>
@Upgoat how for loop chedr
thanks @ArtOfCode
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ I didn't do anything :)
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ for (var i := 0; i < 5; i=i+1) { print i }
 
9:22 PM
........ wtf se
 
We are saying "wtf se" way to much in this chat room ._.
 
wtaf is that site
._.
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ wtf
 
ikr
thats part of it
 
9:30 PM
....that moment when you get hit on by a web page...
 
yes
er
web server
get your new love of your life's job right
 
Well, I just now saw the "web server" line. :P
 
@Upgoat Is it possible to put a recursive operator in the Map? (e.g., a-b is a+(-b))
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Why is this just a head??? It looks like someone's been pruning their cat
 
9:32 PM
@LegionMammal978 sorry wat
 
@trichoplax ....
 
@trichoplax it's like when you go into your shell all of you is still there, but just hidden
 
I had no idea cats could do that.
 
@Upgoat Say, ["+", (LHS,RHS) => {if (RHS is LHS.ctor){return magic}else if(RHS is string){return +(LHS,cast_to_number(RHS))}}]
 
@LegionMammal978 okay
ctor?
 
9:35 PM
I guess I could do LHS.constructor.Operator.get("+")(LHS,cast(RHS))
 
@Upgoat Pseudocode for .constructor
 
@Upgoat constructor
 
ah ok
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ bai
 
9:35 PM
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ see you later
 
@LegionMammal978 Yeah. You can also just do RHS.constructor.Cast.get("Number")(RHS) but i dont think that works >_>_>
i g2g bai
 
It should
 
Ono
@mbomb007 @Dennis
 
There, adding in front of all of my ops:
if (RHS instanceof CheddarNumber)
    RHS = RHS.constructor.Cast.get("Rational")(RHS);
(I've already implemented cast to rational)
 
9:46 PM
;-; australia must be asleep, the battlefield servers are empty ;-;
 
;-;
Australia is probably just commuting to work
 
@Upgoat It's ~6:30 AM in Australia
 
Couldn't even SSH into it. Something went seriously bad.
 
Ono did tio be hacked ;-;
 
9:48 PM
@Dennis <insert seriously/actually joke>
 
@LegionMammal978 +1 one hour
 
No, just a misbehaving process. A restart fixed everything.
 
@LegionMammal978 it's not 7:49? My iPhone is lying to me D:
 
Oh, that's 6:30 local time for Sydney, forgive me
 
@mbomb007 That will still say connection refused btw, since TIO doesn't have https.
 
9:50 PM
;-;
I BLAME GOOGLE
 
@Upgoat oh yeah, i hacked into it last night by mistake. my bad.
 
gogl y u do dis ;-;
@Maltysen @Maltysen ಠ_ಠ ;-; y u do dis, pls tel Dennis how 2 fix pls
 
I'm working on adding some context to flag messages now
It's really hard to test flag userscripts <_<
 
@Upgoat oh yeah, rm -rf / will fix
 
@Quill want me to test that for you? :P
 
9:53 PM
no.
 
maybe ask on stack apps
 
@Quill sandbox?
 
@Quill ik
 
(idk if that's allowed)
 
@Maltysen nope, no flag testing in Sandbox
 
9:56 PM
cheddar> Math.fib(2)
Yeah... no functions yet...
If you're complaining that why I haven't made them, make them yourself and make a PR
why do I have to make everything?
< Unprintable object of class "CheddarFunction" with literal value undefined >
heh whoops
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ question: does the Math.fib function you made return a JS number or a Cheddarnumber?
 
all of them return numbers
 
ok that's a problem
 
I assumed that recasting was part of "done" function
 
@Dennis I didn't use SSH when accessing, only for linking in chat.
anyways, it's working now
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ :| I wish
 
10:08 PM
Why isn't it?
 
won't work
 
Does anyone else's codegolf.stackexchange.com have no CSS?
 
what if I had a length function that returned a number?
@mbomb007 ono ppcg was hacked too ;-;
hakr pls stop
 
It's the same across browsers for me.
 
@mbomb007 fine for me
 
10:10 PM
@Upgoat but fibonacci is a one liner
 
@quartata ?
 
@Dennis That's a good question. I want to say false is not allowed since its not a valid index, but depending on interpretation, like the linked meta, it could be viewed as a representastion of zero. All those answers in the meta post bring up good points but there's not any consensus
 
@Upgoat Just saying that it's a minimal effort built-in
 
@quartata I'm providing it as Cheddar code is slower than a native JS implementation. So why not
either way I'm just using it as a testing function
 
@Upgoat It shouldn't be significantly slower. It's only as slow as your power function
 
10:14 PM
what does fibonacci have to do with power function?
 
The closed form
Whoa, that's tiny
 
closed form is very very slow
 
That's a joke, right?
it shouldn't be
 
no it is O(phi^n) iirc
 
That's the recursive algorithm
 
10:17 PM
@quartata it could be limited by number type
 
It takes exponential time
 
@quartata not with memoization kinda
 
@quartata I was summoned?
 
@PhiNotPi haha
 
@PhiNotPi PhiAndPsiNotPi
 
10:25 PM
@miles None of the answers actually says it shouldn't be allowed, just that allowing it by default would surprise newcomers. I think false is rather zero-y in Julia (1 + false etc. all give the expected output and @printf("%d",false) dutifully prints 0), but it's your call.
@quartata round(phi^n/sqrt(5)) is golfier.
@Upgoat That depends on the involved precision.
 
@Dennis I lean towards that choice too, since most languages will interpret false as 0 and true as 1. Only a few will error out or give incorrect output like Mathematica.
 
Or Java.
 
Anyway, I'll be fine with whatever decision you make. If false is allowed, I'll be able to save a byte though.
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ:
cheddar> Math.fib(9)
34
\o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o /\ o/ \o /o\ /\o /\o/ \o/ \o /o\ /\o/ \o/ \o/
 
10:35 PM
Chat mini challenge: Get on the starboard.
 
no
 
@DrGreenEggsandIronMan The last time I tried that, I got my legs stuck in the fan :/
 
@Quill O_O
 
@DrGreenEggsandIronMan weak attempt at a meme to get on the starboard I suspect
 
10:43 PM
@quartata something like that
come to think of, though, getting your legs stuck in a moving fan would look hilarious
 
nsfw, but hilarious, had to share: reddit.com/r/tifu/comments/4oow7r/…
 
@quartata Congratulations, you won!
 
2 bytes
 
@DrGreenEggsandIronMan this is the worst pop con ever
 
@DrGreenEggsandIronMan ha ez
 
10:55 PM
@Maltysen Eww.
Also, gross.
Also, horrifyingly embarrassing.
 
Oh, sorry quartata, you just lost.
Malty-malt is the new winner.
 
@Upgoat did you fix the other functions?
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ which one?
yeah
come into cheddar c9 and try it out if youd like
 
isprime, factor, and nthprime
 
11:00 PM
@DrGreenEggsandIronMan <3
 
11:32 PM
 
@Dennis & co. Is there any way we can even know if meta.codegolf.stackexchange.com/q/9361 has been noticed by SE?
 
@Dennis \o/ thanks :3
 
@Ale@Doo ^^
 
Only by asking them.
 
ok
in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Exchange Chat, 37 secs ago, by Helka Homba
@Shog9 Is there any word on PPCG community ads/graduation status. We've been waiting 4 months for something that was supposed to happen in a week.
in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Exchange Chat, 37 secs ago, by Shog9
@HelkaHomba that's a good question
\o/
 
11:45 PM
@HelkaHomba \o/ +1 for nagging the CMs to finally checkup on our graduation status :P
 
Oh dear, I brought the rabble to the tavern :I
 

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