The Nineteenth Byte

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

2:00 PM

@ArtOfCode Hey, but where's the advacas question?

ArtOfCode

@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 somewhere?

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

@ArtOfCode Who is the s********t?

ArtOfCode

@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 the what now

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

The one with 501 rep.

ArtOfCode

oh

test user

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

2:11 PM

QPixel on C9 updated to 266d0f8b

El'endia Starman

@HelkaHomba: How could you take away those bookshelves from those poor bookkeepers?! What did they ever do to wrong you?

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

lol

also, i feel like the dogs will die if you keep letting them fight eevrything

Katenkyo

Hum, speaking about the minecraft server?

ArtOfCode

@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 ping

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

Alright, updating QPixel instance on C9.

The instance will be down in 15 minutes.

El'endia Starman

2:22 PM

@Katenkyo Helka Homba's recent series of Minecraft videos.

ArtOfCode

@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 you should be looking for commit a4ad2517

El'endia Starman

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ You can heal dogs with meat IIRC.

Even rotten flesh.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

yeah, but still

fox-is-cruel-to-dog

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

7 hours ago, by Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

Holy shit. I just outgolfed Dennis.

Katenkyo

@El'endiaStarman Uploaded on youtube?

El'endia Starman

2:30 PM

Yeah.

Latest video: youtube.com/watch?v=ntJXjbWaIgQ

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

@ArtOfCode Also, you shouldn't reveal your name inside the git commit history. >_>

Some people don't appreciate when their real name is revealed.

ArtOfCode

@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 meh

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

2 minute alert. Sign out of the instances and finish writing posts.

(I mean the QPixel instance on C9.)

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 some people mind it. I don't.

El'endia Starman

This was pretty entertaining. :P

ANIME Baseball

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New Sandboxed Posts

2:34 PM

0

A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Implement Brainfuck Algorithms code-golfstringbrainfuck In order to make algorithms written in brainfuck more understandable, you can write them in a more abstract notation, where you give a given cell a name, and instead of lots of unreadable < and > instructions to move the pointer to a speci...

El'endia Starman

@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 Important distinction: it's usually fine if someone reveals their own name, but not when someone else reveals their name without permission.

Katenkyo

@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 that would be like someone revealing that your real name is Zyabout :)

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

@Katenkyo My real surname is Zyabin. o_o

Katenkyo

@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 (I think you missed the joke ^^)

(this is a really bad one)

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

^

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan I think he is referencing me asking him not to say my name, even though it's fairly common knowledge.

Fatalize

2:42 PM

@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 RIP

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

@ArtOfCode I don't know how to get commit a4ad2517 into the repo. I don't see it recently in the log.

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ huh? Why would you ask him not to say your name if it's common knowledge?

ArtOfCode

@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 oh yeah, whoops. You're looking at the wrong remote. git remote add bleeding-edge https://gitlab.com/ArtOfCode/qpixel && git pull bleeding-edge master

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

I don't mind people knowing my name, but I mind other people spreading my name around.

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

Oh OK.

What is it? (Is it riker?)

Fatalize

2:44 PM

^ Don't spread his name!

El'endia Starman

On the other hand, you can spread Martin's name around! Wait, no, he got married recently. Shoot, nevermind.

Katenkyo

@El'endiaStarman I guess when you're using your real name as your internet identity, people don't have any choice but to spread it whenever they are speaking about you / mentioning you

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

iiirc his name is bob bobson

Katenkyo

It's a nice trap to then complain about the fact that they should spread other people's name

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

??

El'endia Starman

2:47 PM

@Katenkyo I was making a joke based on his former last name of B(u-with-an-umlaut)ttner, which looks like "butter"...

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan yeah

Katenkyo

@El'endiaStarman I guess I'm too tired to understand the joke ¤_¤

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

@Katenkyo $_$

> B(u-with-an-umlaut)ttner

B<A-0252>ttner, which is Büttner.

Fatalize

@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 which doesn't explain the joke with "spread"

quartata

@Mego Awh, thanks :)

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

2:56 PM

Büttner. That's easy to type on my phone.

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

@Fatalize It shouldn't.

Alright, you have a hour to play around with the QPixel on C9 instance.

While I play around with a not-so-new site. See you around.

Katenkyo

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan Same on my keyboard -> Büttner

Glory to the saint azerty keyboard

Leaky Nun

On the other hand just using an anagram as your name can make people forget your real name.

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

I didn't forget your real name.

Leaky Nun

You will.

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

3:00 PM

How much you wanna bet?

:P

Leaky Nun

a question

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

Huh?

Leaky Nun

maybe 50 points?

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

Haha, sure I'll take that. How long do I have to remember it for?

You're Kevin Lau, right? </joke>

Leaky Nun

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan I just thought of a fun thing to do

why don't you rsa-encrypt my name and then send it to me here

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

3:05 PM

I didn't.

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

That sounds like way too much work for this early in the morning.

Do you remember my original username? (Before alex started making ham jokes)

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan DJ McMayhem

Leaky Nun

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan When did you change your name?

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

I don't remember. About the same time as alex started making ham jokes.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

^

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

3:11 PM

Apr 5 at 6:14, by Alex A.

Btw, @MyHamDJ I now solely refer to you as Dr. Ham Jam in my head.

Yup

Leaky Nun

It's actually funny

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

I'm 5 points away from a bronze "string" badge. =)

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

i'm 3 points away from bronze codegolf

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

Nice!

I'm 220 points away from silver code-golf.

Leaky Nun

3:27 PM

I'm 532 away from gold

LegionMammal978

slither.io/i33628.txt

^ An encoded list of all slither.io server clusters

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

@LegionMammal978 I didn't know private data was on the site.

LegionMammal978

@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 At least, the publicly connect-able ones that host games

Decoded through the function:

function loadSos(b) {
    sos = [];
    clus = [];

    var C = [];
    var D = [];
    var c = 0;
    var e = 0;
    var h = 0;
    var q = 0;
    var u;
    var w = [];
    var x = [];

    for (var f = 1; f < b.length; f++)
        if (u = (b.charCodeAt(f) - 97 - e) % 26, 0 > u && (u += 26), q *= 16, q += u, e += 7, 1 == c) {
            if (0 == h) w.push(q),
                4 == w.length && h++;
            else if (1 == h) C.push(q),
                3 == C.length && h++;
            else if (2 == h) x.push(q),

(still trying to figure it out)

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

3:50 PM

Alright now, I'm back.

Bumping the QCPixel on CQ9 instance because no activity there recently.

It seems to have a few minutes left.

in Sandbox, 58 secs ago, by HoiHoi-san

@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 nudge mins to start shutting down the QPixel on C9 instance

From that moment you have 14 mins to finish writing posts, comments, and log out of instances on the QPixel on C9 instance.

I'm shutting it down when these minutes end.

And chat is dead.

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

strawpoll.me/10535614

Leaky Nun

4:05 PM

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan Why isn't the lower limit zero?

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

because he counts islands as part of the continent, i.e. HK is in asia

Leaky Nun

But I haven't visited Asia, I am in Asia...

TimmyD

Have you ever been on holiday elsewhere in Asia?

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

I've been to only one continent: Eurasia.

Leaky Nun

I've been to only one continent: Pangea.

@TimmyD Well, I'm not sure if it counts as visiting another continent..

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

4:08 PM

@LeakyNun It does.

Leaky Nun

Alright.

I can't change my answer anyway.

quartata

Too bad we don't have anyone who's visited all 7 :P

TimmyD

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan VTC as unclear

quartata

Somewhat surprised at the number of 1 answers though

@LeakyNun hehe

@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 Usually in America we consider europe and asia to be separate continents (not sure why)

Since the poll goes up to 7 I assume it was designed with that system in mind

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

Russia is in two continents, Europe and Asia.

I've been to the European part.

quartata

4:13 PM

Yeah, I think that's why they teach six continents in eastern europe and russia

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

The QPixel on C9 instance has been shut down. RIP

TimmyD

@quartata Westernization. Because people in the Western part of Europe were so much "better" and "more civilized" than those "barbarians" from the East. eyeroll

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

Meh. I don't think the question is important enough to put any effort into clarifying.

Leaky Nun

What is to light as air molecule is to sound?

quartata

@TimmyD kek

@LeakyNun Well light doesn't need a medium

Leaky Nun

4:17 PM

@quartata light doesn't need a material medium?

it does need the electric field, though?

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

... that's not a medium

Leaky Nun

sure

El'endia Starman

Light does need the electromagnetic field, which is not an electric field, to exist. It's necessary in a different way than air/liquids/solids are for sound.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

light is photons = electromagnetic force carrier

Leaky Nun

Photon is another manifestation of the light, not the particle inside the lightwave

right?

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

4:20 PM

no

it is light

the photon is the light at the same time the light is a wave

not counting weird observation things

Leaky Nun

that is what I meant

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

it's not a different manifestiation

it is

Leaky Nun

oh, ok

thanks

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

> The main site has a Be Nice policy. These rules apply in chat just as much as they do there

> Rudeness and belittling language are not okay.

4

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

^

LegionMammal978

4:36 PM

Finally parsed it

Now, the full list of slither.io's game servers:

5.9.2.98
5.9.8.131
5.9.10.131
5.9.19.112
5.9.30.19
43.249.36.233
43.249.36.234
43.249.36.235
43.249.36.236
43.249.36.237
43.249.36.238
43.249.37.22
43.249.37.54
43.249.37.55
43.249.37.129
43.249.37.135
43.249.37.146
43.249.37.147
43.249.37.201
43.249.39.220
45.58.112.250
45.58.115.162
45.58.117.178
45.58.124.90
45.58.125.106
46.4.72.81
46.4.89.211
46.4.92.130
46.4.93.235
46.4.113.16
63.251.227.233
63.251.227.234
63.251.227.235
63.251.227.236
88.198.63.3
103.195.100.98
103.195.100.138
103.195.100.194

(A bit long)

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

rip mobile chat users

LegionMammal978

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ PC/Mac/*NIX FTW ;)

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

so... anything but mobile?

LegionMammal978

yup

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

.*[xX] ftw

TimmyD

4:39 PM

I invite additional comments / suggestions on this -- I'm likely to post it in a few hours.

1

A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Decode a Microsoft MS-DOS 5.0 FAT directory entry code-golf other tags? The Microsoft FAT file system has a directory table to represent which "files" are in which "folders" on the disk. There are a bunch of technical specifications over on Wiki for the curious, but the challenge here is going ...

LegionMammal978

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Well, that includes things like the Nokia X...

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@TimmyD le wall of text

@Upgoat I'll start working on the Math namespace. Where's the REPL, again?

also, how does making a lib work again

TimmyD

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Yeah ... I tried to pare it down, but it's still a complicated spec. And this isn't even counting all the additional things (like, if it starts with a 0x00 byte, or the various extensions that various OS's have built into it).

Upgoat

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ oh you'll have to come onto the C9 for development of the standard lib I do have functions down (yay!). But no way to execute them yet :(

quartata

@Upgoat not to brag but we have functions

Mostly because el'endia went on a coding rampage yesterday

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

4:46 PM

o-o okay

@quartata o_o how much stuff did he get done?

Upgoat

@quartata yea but do you have a v0.1 release yet ;)

quartata

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ \for, booleans, and functions

@Upgoat Not sure why you bothered to do a v0.1 release when stuff doesn't even work yet

LegionMammal978

@Upgoat, you get my earlier messages?

quartata

I mean if that's your criteria then we could do a 0.2 release

Upgoat

@LegionMammal978 <myClass>.Scope.set("<prop name>", new CheddarVariable(<value>, { Writeable: <boolean whether or not its a const> })

cheddar variable is at interpreter/core/env/var

LegionMammal978

4:49 PM

@Upgoat Because I'm trying to figure out where to put a publicly accessible GCD function

Upgoat

@LegionMammal978 ah ok

so would you want it to be available on the Class's prototype or on the class itself?

LegionMammal978

I meant for internal use

(not to say that it shouldn't be on the class)

Bálint

If I have a list with items, and those items have a list of item they need to be before in the list, then how could I sort it?

El'endia Starman

@quartata Hahaha, "rampage" is right. :P

Upgoat

ah, ok. You can do exports.GCD = function(){...} and exports.whatever = function(){blah} etc.

El'endia Starman

4:51 PM

Functions took two days though.

LegionMammal978

@Upgoat Where in the file?

Upgoat

wherever you'd like

quartata

@Upgoat By the way something I really like in Haxe is that you can essentially set permissions on variables, like methods from this package can read but not write to this variable, etc.

Upgoat

it's practice to do it at the end but it'll work if you don't

quartata

You should do something like that instead of just a straight up const

LegionMammal978

4:53 PM

@Upgoat Wouldn't that conflict with the class's export default, though?

Upgoat

@quartata That exists, but it's up to the accessor whether or not to allow the accessee to obey

@LegionMammal978 unfortunetly yes. You'd have to do exports.default = foo

LegionMammal978

@Upgoat Although I guess I could just do a CheddarRational.gcd = function(a, b) {...}

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

5:07 PM

I made a field for playing competitive Game of Life. That could make an interesting Koth...

Upgoat

What math functions do you think would be important for Cheddar to have?

LegionMammal978

@Upgoat First off, at least create a wrapper for Math functions

Upgoat

@LegionMammal978 what does that mean ._.

LegionMammal978

@Upgoat Have Math.floor, Math.pow, etc. available somehow

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

@Upgoat Could you please come to the zyabinVI beta room?

I have a problem with the Cradle.

Upgoat

5:14 PM

@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 sorry >_> busy with cheese

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

@Upgoat With making cheese or eating it?

The latter takes a few mins. The former a lot more time...

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 isn't that just a regular grid recoloured?

Optimizer

@HelkaHomba so you basically steal from villages right? books, crops, etc..

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Nope, it has an easy rule: whoever has their part of the field blank wins.

Another rule: you can only control your own part of the field.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

well, I mean the actual grid itself

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

5:16 PM

And lastly, you can only do a small amount of actions per turn.

Say, 30 cell switches per turn.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

how does one win?

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Have the opponents' part blank.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

it seems really hard to win. I could just make a square in my corner and surround it with some stuf

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

You can use any amount from 1 to 30 cell switches.

LegionMammal978

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ A full list of mobile phones on Wikipedia that such a regex would match (anchored):

2010-07-15: Droid X
2011-01-24: LG Optimus 2X
2012-02-01: Meizu MX
2012-04-02: HTC One X
2012-10-08: Sony Xperia TX
2012-11-30: HTC Windows Phone 8X
2013-07-23: Motorola Droid Maxx
2013-08-23: Gen 1 Moto X
2013-10-15: HTC One Max
2013-11-12: LG G Flex
2013-12-09: Huawei Honor 3X
2013-12-16: LG Gx
2014-09-05: Gen 2 Moto X
2014-10-16: Huawei Honor 4X
2015-08-14: Samsung Galaxy Grand Max
2015-09-29: Nexus 5X
2015-10-27: Huawei Honor 5X
2015-10-29: OnePlus X
2015-11-27: Siam 7X
2016-02-22: Sony Xperia X

TimmyD

5:52 PM

68

A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

It's Life, Jim, but not as we know it You probably know Conway's Game of Life, the famous cellular automaton invented by mathematician John Conway. Life is a set of rules that, together, allow you to simulate a two-dimensional board of cells. The rules decide which cells on the board live and w...

Upgoat

@LegionMammal978 /\bX|X\b/i works perfectly O_O

@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 wat

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

@Upgoat I just found out that I didn't do anything. XP

I need help doing a language cradle in Pascal.

Upgoat

:|

wat is cradale

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

@Upgoat github.com/zyabinVI/Cradle

Upgoat

> A compiler cradle

but wat is copmiler cradel

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

6:07 PM

@Upgoat The compiler lessons in Let's Build a Compiler by Jack Crenshaw were based on a cradle. I decided to improve on that concept.

Martin Ender

4 mins ago, by Upgoat

wat is cradale

Upgoat

@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 ^

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

@MartinEnder Replying with message oneboxes is annoying, whether you're a mod or not. But @Upgoat I meant this cradle.

Upgoat

as so cradle = abstraction?

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

@Upgoat ?

Martin Ender

6:15 PM

oh apparently, it means "boilerplate code"

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

Yeah.

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6:27 PM

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Q: Decode a Microsoft MS-DOS 5.0 FAT directory entry

The Microsoft FAT file system has a directory table to represent which "files" are in which "folders" on the disk. For the time, these entries crammed a lot of information into a small amount of bits. There are a bunch of technical specifications over on Wiki for the curious, but the challenge he...

code-golf parsing file-system

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@LegionMammal978 i meant it to match OSes, not computers themselves.

Emigna

Been reading a bit on meta and it seems as if Brianfuck is allowed to use byte values as integer I/O unless decimal integers specifically specified in the challenge. I haven't seen it explicitly stated though. Do I have that correct?

Martin Ender

6:47 PM

@Emigna yes meta.codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/4719/8478

Emigna

Thank you!

flawr

@MartinEnder That is nice to know, thanks!

I think I have to start a personal collection of meta references...

Martin Ender

like this one? chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/24213812#24213812

TimmyD

cough Community FAQ cough

Martin Ender

yeah that could use some work

TimmyD

6:51 PM

I'm waiting for our graduation site-specific text before diving into it. So ... 6-8 weeks.

2

LegionMammal978

7:01 PM

/methinks dis is reddit

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

@LegionMammal978 dis is stack exchange

TimmyD

@LegionMammal978 /r/methinks

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

don't worry, your nightmares aren't happening

LegionMammal978

@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 DIS IS SPARTEXCHANGE!

3

flawr

@MartinEnder I like how this is the very first folder in your fav-bar.

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

7:10 PM

@HelkaHomba None.

flawr

@TimmyD I didn't even know this existed o_o

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

I finally went long into the past.

flawr

@MartinEnder Any chance you would share those links?

Anonymous

7:30 PM

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ It should have been extremely obvious that was a joke, given that Japt and Jolf have no relation to J other than their first letter.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@LegionMammal978 r/showerthoughts

Anonymous

However, to prevent offense in the future, I will make sure to include a link to an image of a large, flashing neon sign that says "this is a joke"

Anonymous

@LeakyNun I think what I said last night came across differently than what I intended. I appreciate all of your work on Seriously/Actually. I think your newest Fib method is neat. However, the current implementation (which you wrote, and I am grateful for) is already really good. I don't think there's a need to change it, because what you wrote is already excellent.

Anonymous

@TimmyD Don't hold your breath

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Anonymous

7:34 PM

@Mego Just in case it wasn't clear... upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/39/…

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Mego I am still offended. "Worse versions" still imply that jolf isn't a good languages, especially considering that you have had previous reservations.

I spent literally days on that, and for you to belittle it is highly insulting.

Anonymous

Now I can't tell if you're joking or not

Anonymous

I was all ready to post that Ricky Gervais quote, but now "literally days" has got me thinking you're messing with me :P

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Let me put it in simple words. I'm offended.

Literally days.

Anonymous

Ok cool. azquotes.com/picture-quotes/…

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

7:39 PM

I don't care. It doesn't matter if I'm right or wrong.

"Rudeness and belittling language is not okay"

Anonymous

There is literally nothing in common between Jolf and J, other than the first letter. If you are deciding to be offended because I (obviously jokingly) called Jolf a "worse version of J", go for it. The comparison doesn't make any sense in the first place.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Yeah, it does. I drew a lot of inspiration from J. Don't try to say "obviously joking" because I didn't think you were joking. Ergo it isn't obvious.

Anonymous

> Jolf is heavily inspired by Pyth and Japt, and also draws inspiration from the O language.

Anonymous

If you were so heavily inspired by J, you might consider adding that to the README

Anonymous

And, for the record, "worse" is a relative descriptor, not an absolute one. X can be worse than Y, but still good.

Anonymous

7:44 PM

I never said Jolf was bad. I personally am not a huge fan of it, but my opinion doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of things :P

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Mego I don't update the docs/README very often. Surely you didn't read the README before venturing to make your hilarious comment.

LegionMammal978

@Upgoat If an operator is called on differing types (say 5+"foo"), then which operator function is chosen?

Upgoat

@LegionMammal978 int's +

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Mego In the grand scheme of things, the grand scheme of things argument is horrible.

Anonymous

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I don't even know why you're so offended by what I said. Nowhere did I say Jolf is bad or that you should feel bad for making it. In fact, I'm pretty sure I've said the opposite many times - users making new languages is good.

LegionMammal978

7:45 PM

@Upgoat So LHS/unary operand?

yeah

K

kindal ike ruby

Well, I don't speak Ruby ;p

Anonymous

@Upgoat What if you have an expression like X+Y, where X+Y isn't defined, but Y+X is?

Upgoat

7:46 PM

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ error

allowing that would be very problematic

Anonymous

No __radd__?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Mego Sorry if I didn't pore through the transcript to check what I remember against it.

Upgoat

@Mego no, I don't see it's need

LegionMammal978

@Mego CheddarError.KEY_NOT_FOUND probably

Anonymous

@Upgoat Are you going to allow operator overloading and/or user-defined types?

Upgoat

7:48 PM

yeah

the reason I'm not allowing it is for example: 3*"foo" has a very different meaning than "foo"*3

Anonymous

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I don't know what else to say to you. I've explained to you several times now, in several different ways, that I meant you no insult or offense. If you're still choosing to be offended, that's on you.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Mego oops

I forgot to say I'm no longer offended

look conversation is hard :P

Anonymous

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Agreed, especially over text.

Anonymous

Bird friends still?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

I'm a dragon, but sure

El'endia Starman

7:50 PM

s/bird/flappy thing/

flawr

Speaking of birds, does anyone know what's up with Alex? I haven't seem him here in a while.

@El'endiaStarman s/flappy thing/sky food

Upgoat

@flawr he's probably migrating. I think birds do that in the summer

3

El'endia Starman

@flawr Maybe he's busy due to school? It is about the end of the school year in the US.

Upgoat

@flawr O_o I did not know footless lizards were able to eat dragons ._.

El'endia Starman

@flawr Food? Yer a ground dweller!

Morgan Thrapp

7:52 PM

Hey, @TimmyD, is there an existing known correct way to check fat32 headers? I get 24 seconds for the file creation time seconds, but I want to make sure I didn't just mess something up.

flawr

I think he isn't in school anymore.

Anonymous

@El'endiaStarman Alex graduated from college several years ago

El'endia Starman

@flawr Working towards his master's degree.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

hehe ended school about a month ago for me

Anonymous

And I don't think he's said anything about grad school

LegionMammal978

7:52 PM

^^ same here

Anonymous

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Close enough :P

Anonymous

School ended about a year ago for me :P

flawr

Oh I thought he finished long ago, and has a job?

El'endia Starman

@Mego chat.stackexchange.com/…

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

@MorganThrapp For the "decode a FAT Direcrory Header" challenge? Good luck searching.

Anonymous

7:53 PM

@flawr Correct. He's a postal delivery bird.

Morgan Thrapp

@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 Yeah, that's the one.

LegionMammal978

I might be a polar bear trapped in a blizzard (you never know)

Morgan Thrapp

I've been searching, but I haven't found anything.

Anonymous

@El'endiaStarman Oh, I was gone/drunk that day :P

El'endia Starman

@Mego He's said it multiple times. Keep scrolling. :P

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

7:54 PM

Anonymous

@El'endiaStarman I've been drunk a lot of days

LegionMammal978

:O

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Where in the world is Alex A.?

:P

Anonymous

It's the only thing that gets me through Bad Movie Fridays

El'endia Starman

@Mego And high some other days, apparently. :P

bkul

7:54 PM

A curry decorator in Python -> gist.github.com/Nazek42/014b4d38b77f7b27100b39279e1d602d

Upgoat

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ sounds like interesting short film

El'endia Starman

Despite being a flightless penguin.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

o_o my computer is preventing me from installing python

and from using the old one

Anonymous

@El'endiaStarman I just took an antibiotic, an antihistamine, an expectorant, and a steroid. I'm gonna be super out of it in a few minutes.

flawr

@El'endiaStarman Who says flightless?

Anonymous

7:55 PM

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Bad computer!

El'endia Starman

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Bad computer! Throw it out and get a new one!

bkul

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ How exactly?

flawr

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Perhpas snakes are afraid of dragons?

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