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Roland Taylor

20:01

It won't load any operating systems, not even vista. And it's sad to say but I can't find out what its saying as the error cause my screen is broken :P

penreturn

hahahahahah

Roland Taylor

:D?

:)?

Anyone?

I am all alone.

Takkat

@RolandTaylor not quite alone but with someone who has not a good idea (yet).

Roland Taylor

lol

Know how to get a Toshiba to turn on when the power cord seems to be shot?

Takkat

How do you read errors without a screen?

penreturn

20:06

+1 @Takkat :D

Roland Taylor

(Or know how to tell if the laptop works without power :P?)

(Yes that's insane)

Takkat

@RolandTaylor it is - only kids still have fun with powerless equipment.

Roland Taylor

@Takkat :)

Takkat

My boy takes them apart, my girl plays "office" ;)

Roland Taylor

so I'm stuck between a Toshiba that needs a new power cord, and my dv7 works but the screen is broken and grub is being... itself.

Takkat

20:07

You don't have a replacement cord, I guess,

Roland Taylor

^

Takkat

Sometimes they still work in a very subtle certain position.

But this could as well cause a short circuit anywhere.

Roland Taylor

:P

Welcome to my life :)

Takkat

Only when the cable is broken mechanically. If it's the external power supply this may be the cuplrit.

Roland Taylor

I got some new power cords for my old laptops (well one is not mine technically)

Takkat

20:10

Your life is great - you are an Ubuntero!

Roland Taylor

and my dv7 is not letting me get in without this live usb

and the usb drive belongs to my brother.

Takkat

All family - there is worse in this world.

Roland Taylor

@Takkat I consider great having a phone.

And a working system.

And enough money to make you satisfied.

Takkat

There never is enough money.

Not even if too much money is the main cause of lack of sleep.

penreturn

^ yeahhh

Takkat

20:13

But if you don't have a power cord because of lack of money that's a good reason to complain.

Is the power supply still working?

Roland Taylor

That's not why I don't have a working power cord for it

I was given it just today

I don't have a proper laptop because of a lack of money

To put it in perspective, I have never owned an android device

or even a symbian device

get it?

penreturn

wewww

Takkat

penreturn

Takkat

@RolandTaylor: good can be done with a soldering iron. Bad needs replacement.

@RolandTaylor I never had a smartphone. Only my wife needs such things.

My kids start needing such things :/

I am happy with my desktop.

Roland Taylor

20:23

I've never had one either - could never afford it :)

Takkat

Its not very new.

Roland Taylor

cool

@penreturn your rep?

penreturn

i donno... cant understand the stack applet... its showing more rep :D

hakermania

has anyone understand January's question? askubuntu.com/questions/194382/…

I don't get it at all...

Takkat

@hakermania my spontaneous thought was of a webcam attached on the ceiling to see who physically sits at the console...

hakermania

20:30

@Takkat how the heck does somebody thing that the PC can through a keyboard and a mouse to detect who is the physical person typing to it? You need some kind of detection, like you say

Takkat

I think he needs to know the user who is typing at present, irrespect of who is logged in on the other TTYs

Who's TTY is active in other words. But even the active TTY is a virtual one, as I understand this all.

Never came across this question so I have no idea how or even if this can be done.

Roland Taylor

I don't know what to do with my dv7

:/

jrg

@penreturn what setup is that?

penreturn

the longest question + explanation i've ever seen...

Roland Taylor

I will have to try to create a 64bit live usb and try that

it's my only hope :/

Takkat

20:32

@RolandTaylor is the drive/cables broken?

penreturn

@jrg which one?

Roland Taylor

@Takkat nope - the drive works fine

the problem is grub - but I don't know what the problem with grub is!

jrg

@penreturn your last screenshot

penreturn

stackapplet.py

it shows current rep, inbox, notice

jrg

i meant the desktop environment. i know it's stackapplet. :P

Takkat

20:34

@RolandTaylor Grub says it can't find the drive it looks for. So either Grub looks the wrong place or the drive is damaged.

Roland Taylor

@jrg shell

jrg

kde, xfce, enlightment, gnomeshell, something else?

Roland Taylor

@Takkat how do you know?

penreturn

LOL!hahahahaha

> uname -a; cat /etc/lsb-release; gnome-shell --version
Linux penreturns 3.6.0-030600-generic #201209302035 SMP Mon Oct 1 00:36:01 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
DISTRIB_RELEASE=12.04
DISTRIB_CODENAME=precise
DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS"
GNOME Shell 3.5.4

jrg

@Takkat makes sense.

Roland Taylor

20:34

I don't think the drive could actually be damaged, because I can actually access it :(

jrg

what does disk utility say? i could access my drive, but it was failing and failing fast and hard.

Takkat

40 mins ago, by Roland Taylor

xubuntu@xubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install /dev/sda
/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?).

Roland Taylor

@jrg I have to install it

jrg

@RolandTaylor it isn't on the live usb?

Roland Taylor

@Takkat I've had that error before and fixed it

@jrg not that I can tell

jrg

20:36

Mar 6 at 22:19, by jrg

Its been on for 44 days, and has 2359382 bad sectors, so i'm "ok", right?

i mean, i'm so dumb, but i was still operating with that many bad sectors. you could just have bad sectors in the wrong place. :P

Roland Taylor

@jrg lol

Takkat

@RolandTaylor it has only one drive, has it? BIOS?

Roland Taylor

@Takkat yes one drive, can't access the bios

jrg

fun.

Roland Taylor

xubuntu@xubuntu:~$ fuser /dev/sda5
xubuntu@xubuntu:~$ sudo fuser /dev/sda5
xubuntu@xubuntu:~$

but yet!

xubuntu@xubuntu:~$ sudo umount /mnt/sdmatey
umount: /mnt/sdmatey: device is busy.
(In some cases useful info about processes that use
the device is found by lsof(8) or fuser(1))

I tried to chroot, but that didn't work

jrg

20:39

can you reboot?

Roland Taylor

wait, let me try something

I will have to reboot :(

but I don't persistence on this usb

so I'll just go through the hard work one time and see if I can get this 64bit iso

AHAHAHAHA

I AM GOING INSANE

Takkat

ouch

Roland Taylor

What did I do. Really...

First I lost my phone.

Then a laptop dropped.

Now this.

I am supposed to give up technology?

Takkat

Did you try to sudo grub-setup /dev/sda?

@RolandTaylor technology is made by human beings for human beings. I sometimes doubt that.

Roland Taylor

@Takkat just did that - am I supposed to see output?

Takkat

20:49

@RolandTaylor dunno - it prepares the drive/MBR for Grub.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

i.hate.getting.a.flat.tire. /rage

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Roland Taylor

@Takkat prepares?

Takkat

@RolandTaylor checked in a VM it gave no output. That always a bit eerie.

Roland Taylor

what does that mean?

xubuntu@xubuntu:~$ sudo grub-setup /dev/sda
xubuntu@xubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install /dev/sda
/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?).
xubuntu@xubuntu:~$

Takkat

:(

from the German Ubuntu wiki (wiki.ubuntuusers.de/GRUB) they recommend to

cp /proc/mounts /etc/mtab

but I have no idea what that does. :/

Roland Taylor

20:59

I will need to download a 64bit iso somehow

Takkat

Looks like the best idea.

Mahesh

o/

Takkat

o/

Mahesh

\o

penreturn

choose one :D

Mahesh

21:02

KTHXBYE

(exit statement in a certain language)

Roland Taylor

@penreturn um,

how?

penreturn

better to have 1 live usb.. just in case...

jrg

you're preaching to the choir with roland. :P

Takkat

@penreturn why the Windows8 preview? What worst case scenario might that be that you need this one?

penreturn

:p

Roland Taylor

21:10

@jrg got that right :)

Boot repair has a grub legacy option :O

I wonder if that would work...

jrg

@Takkat Nothing wrong with checking out the competition.

penreturn

ahahahhaa... just download for my friend... he's using broadband... might finish up all quota

jrg

@RolandTaylor You're not using grub legacy. probably.

Roland Taylor

@jrg I'm not, but I wonder if I can install it and then boot, then fix the problem from there

(I hope that's possible)

jrg

@RolandTaylor ohhhh. that probably is.

@AbrahamVanHelpsing Hey, it could be worse - you could have no car at all.

penreturn

21:12

if u use pc and have separate HD i will suggest you to switch sata cable

Takkat

he's on a laptop. Switching cables is not an option.

Roland Taylor

I could check that the drive is in properly, and I keep getting the impulse that it might not be

though why, I don't know.

penreturn

:(

any change @RolandTaylor ?

Roland Taylor

@penreturn nope, I'm on a break for now

penreturn

ohh okey...

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21:23

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Q: Not able to start “Linux from scratch”. How to start

I have started learning Linux from scratch to create my own for my requirements. But before i start, I was in a confusion on how to start. I have windows 7 as the actual OS. I have various Linux's like Ubuntu, knoppix, Backtrack in vmware. Now As recommended, we need to create partition for new ...

Roland Taylor

I need a 64 bit environment for boot repair

will have to reboot

and I'm not going to do that right now

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AbrahamVanHelpsing

@jrg in point of fact i don't have a car. i got a flat tire in someone else's car

jrg

ouch.

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penreturn

ermm cant u just install new ubuntu.. then install back grub to sda... update grub.. after everything fine delete the new ubuntu?

Roland Taylor

22:00

@AbrahamVanHelpsing yikes

@penreturn I guess

but I would need the space for it

Takkat

<-- off to bed cu

Roland Taylor

cya

d/l a 64 bit iso now

penreturn

ohh

Roland Taylor

22:35

bbl

when the iso downloads, I'll use it + boot-repair to repair this issue

penreturn

gud luck!

Mochan

23:44

Darn! The chat room is all but dead.

Haha that seemed plotted

Eliah Kagan

@Mochan I'm here.

penreturn

im here too

Mochan

@EliahKagan Yay~ people. I thought I was lonely ^o^

Elysium

hi

anyone online?

Mochan

Yup. All three of us

Elysium

23:46

hey Mochan

a quick question

Mochan

Hi @Elysium

Sure

Elysium

I am trying to change an icon

firefox icon...for something custom

Mochan

OK.

Elysium

anyway....the issue is that I can log in as root...and copy the icon to the usr/lib/firefox/icons

and it works just fine

Mochan

Alright.

Elysium

23:47

but when I log back with my normal user account...the icon is not shown and I cant replace it...since no root access can be given to that folder with my normal account

so.....how can I copy it?

I mean the icon into the folder

Mochan

Right... so your trying to get the icon replaced for FireFox... but is it the shortcut on the side-bar thing or on the desktop?

Elysium

shortcut on the quick-start bar

but I want all the icons to be the same

I mean that's the idea

it works perfect on my root account....but I have permission issues on the regular account

so now.....it is a red crossed circle O.o

Mochan

Right. And you logged into root using Alt+F2 and 'gsku nautilus'?

Elysium

alt+f2

Mochan

OK. You could probably ask this as a real question, but I'll check to see if it works for me...

Elysium

23:51

where do I hit alt+f2?

penreturn

on your keyboard

Elysium

I have already asked....no useful answer

Mochan

Lol haha

Elysium

nothing happens when I hit alt +f2 on my keyboard :P

Eliah Kagan

(Totally unrelated to the above discussion.) This question is a bug in 12.10, and is thus doubly off-topic here; we should close it as off-topic (the reason you don't see my close vote yet is that I have to wait until the end of the "day" to get more):

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Q: how to enable keyboard layout indicator in gnome-shell?

I upgraded to 12.10 beta 2 and in gnome-shell I don't have the keyboard layout/language indicator in the top panel. I have two layouts enabled and I can switch between them. I used to have it in 12.04 and also its visible before logging in. how do I enable it in gnome-shell ?

gnome keyboard-layout 12.10

Mochan

23:52

@Elysium Right. If you hit Alt+F2, then the dash should come up saying 'Type command...' or similar. You can type 'gksu nautilus' to log in as root. Did you use that method or something else?

penreturn

@EliahKagan ... gnome 3.6... only few indicator works ... some goes to 3.5

Elysium

that is ctrl+L

alt+F2 doesnt work at all

Mochan

This will allow you root privileges to edit the file-system and not log in totally to root.

Oh really?

Elysium

I am using 10.04

Mochan

So pressing alt+f2 does nothing?

...Oh.

Damn. I'm thinking of 12.04.

penreturn

23:54

@Elysium okey open terminal and type gksu nautilus

Mochan

Let's see...

@penreturn +1

penreturn

:p

Elysium

just did it penreturn

I got an error message

Mochan

What is the error message?

Elysium

saying that "no command gsku found"

gksu

one sec

typed it wrong...I guess

Mochan

23:55

@penreturn could it be sudo gksu nautilus?

Oh?

penreturn

gksu to open graphical interface with root

Mochan

@Elysium What is coming up now?

Elysium

now it works just fine

missed typed it

it lets me copy

do I need a restart for this to work?

I mean the icon

penreturn

just logout and login back

Elysium

ok, one sec

Mochan

23:57

Yeah. We'll be waiting.

penreturn

n dont forget to share your desktop after finish it ;)

Elysium

ok, sweet

works just fine

share my desktop?

Mochan

Yay! Problem solved!

Take a screenshot of it ;)

Elysium

what does that mean penreturn? O.o

ah...loool, my screenshot is shit

penreturn

\o/ horeyy!!! Enjoy Ubuntu!

Elysium

23:58

I can show you guys the icon

it is really cool

Mochan

-eager-

Elysium

one sec

:)

Mochan

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