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jokerdino

12:00 PM

right. i have more posts in review queue for me.

msPeachy

forgot I should have hold out on my last vote now I have to wait 12 hours!

smartboyhw

@msPeachy congrats

msPeachy

@jokerdino nothing to review on meta

jokerdino

oh yeah

Eliah Kagan

@msPeachy If you really want to, I suppose you could undo your most recent vote (assuming it's recent enough not to be locked in).

jokerdino

12:01 PM

you can do retagging then ?

smartboyhw

/me goes to dinner

Takkat

@hakermania this is quite short:askubuntu.com/questions/108375/… but don't choose a partition. Or here on the Wiki: help.ubuntu.com/community/…

msPeachy

@jokerdino okay, I can do that, but you have to give me the tag and I'll retag it

Mochan

This looks promising (for me) @OliveTwist: askubuntu.com/questions/178879/…

jokerdino

@msPeachy hold on

msPeachy

12:03 PM

@EliahKagan that could work

hakermania

@Takkat when you say 'but don't use partition', you mean what ?

jokerdino

what happened to man??

Amith KK

Finally

msPeachy

@AmithKK wow

Amith KK

@msPeachy Thanks for the help :D

msPeachy

12:05 PM

@jokerdino man tag?

jokerdino

@msPeachy i would give you but i feel terribly bad. i'll do on my own later on

@msPeachy it got retagged to manpage somehow

Amith KK

I should have made an app that notifies me on anything new in the review

msPeachy

@AmithKK do that

Amith KK

It would show an overlay where I can take action on the post

jokerdino

Amith KK

12:06 PM

I hope the API has endpoints for review

msPeachy

@jokerdino what about tag and tagging?

jokerdino

@msPeachy they should be merged i think

Takkat

@hakermania it only /sda (or /sdb ...) not /sda1 (/sdb1 ...)

msPeachy

4 questions with tag and 9 with tagging

hakermania

@Takkat Thanks :) And what are the /root and /boot partitions that the answer is referring to?

jokerdino

12:08 PM

do the obvious one first.

muon and guake are obvious.

all you need to do, retag, edit the question and answer if any.

until you get bored

Takkat

@hakermania usually your root will also be your boot - but some people have a separate boot partition.

msPeachy

@jokerdino muon to muon-package-manager?

jokerdino

@msPeachy the other way.

msPeachy

oh okay

hakermania

@Takkat my root partition is the one installed first after a clean install? Or where the grub is?

jokerdino

12:09 PM

wait.

choose the bigger tag as target

so, it is actually muon-package-manager

Takkat

@hakermania the partition you boot from is marked with an asterix (on sudo fdisk -l), the partition the GRUB files are on is likely your Linux partition.

msPeachy

and i should retag it to just muon, right?

Mochan

Do 'proposed' packages include the 'Ubuntu Accomplishments' instalment? General question for you all -.-

jokerdino

@msPeachy one sec. retag to the muon-package-manager

coz it has 6 questions while muon has 3

msPeachy

okay got it

The Interrupter

12:11 PM

Great answer: How do I create a translations team? http://askubuntu.com/a/196608?atw=1 #internationalization

Tweeted by AskUbuntu on October 6, 2012 at 12:01 PM

Amith KK

Hello @jrg

Takkat

@hakermania: people recommend Boot Repair. I haven't used it myself. help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair

msPeachy

why isn't there a retag button?

Amith KK

@msPeachy You're not 10k

msPeachy

oh okay

hakermania

12:13 PM

@Takkat as root is defined the partition where grub is installed? Because if this is the case, then the boot and root partitions are different in my case (boot = windows, root=linux)

jokerdino

i have a retag button ;)

Mochan

I am flagging my own questions. Sigh

jrg

@msPeachy it's a 10K thing.™

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jokerdino

@msPeachy try to edit the question and answer if you need to.

in other words, burn more time

Mochan

@jrg Hahaha. Not that I'm 10K but I liked the ™. XD

Olive Twist

12:14 PM

@Mochan problem solved?

Mochan

@OliveTwist Nope. Flagging as a duplicate. askubuntu.com/questions/196985/dependencies-not-met-on-12-04

msPeachy

@jokerdino okay done

Takkat

@hakermania root = Linux. Windows boot partition is irrelevant. It's the drive MBR not the partition GRUB installs. That's why you shouldn't put it in a partition (used by Windows in your case). Drive and partition are not the same.

jokerdino

:(

msPeachy

but then muon should just be removed

jokerdino

12:16 PM

@msPeachy it will go away after 24 hours

Mochan

@OliveTwist I'm seriously considering just living with it till 12.10 comes out and just doing a fresh install, backing up my crap (are we allowed to swear minor-ally here?) and just giving up. Great attitude, I know. But seriously. I can't be ... you get the idea.

@Takkat +1

jokerdino

@Mochan i would like to reinstall every month or so

msPeachy

@jokerdino okay, what is wrong with "tweaking" tag?

Olive Twist

@jokerdino sounds like me

Mochan

@jokerdino Hahaha, seriously? Damn.

jokerdino

12:17 PM

@msPeachy should be retagged to customization i think

@Mochan it cuts the bugs down

especially on a devel release ;)

Takkat

@hakermania you likely boot from the drive (e.g. /sda NTFS) where Windows is on. Linux root is on another drive (e.g. /sdb ext4). Grub MBR needs to bee on the boot drive (e.g. /sda).

jokerdino

@OliveTwist i haven't done it. just that i would like to

jrg

@Mochan yeah, that's my plan. I'm doing a clean reinstall of 12.10 on top of my 12.10 box, and i'll probably take that opportunity to jump ship from unity to XFCE or something...

Mochan

@jokerdino True story. If only I weren't so lazy. Not a great habit for an Ubuntu-user apparently -.-

jrg

@OliveTwist highfive for not being able to have a Ubuntu install last longer than 90 days! Join the "less than 90 day club"!

jokerdino

12:18 PM

@Mochan downloading and making a live usb is so much easy honestly

Mochan

@jrg Wow, really? I have been to scared to try XFCE or KDE. I'm such a noob

jokerdino

lol scared to move away from Unity?

msPeachy

what about custom-distributions and custom-installer?

jokerdino

@msPeachy you done tweaking already?

hakermania

@Takkat sorry for being probably annoying for my ignorance, but, depending on the answer you told me to look at, (askubuntu.com/questions/108375/…), root = Linux and boot = /dev/sda ? And, (because I am triple-booting with BackTrack, Ubuntu & Windows), as root I should take the linux where the grub loads from?

jrg

12:19 PM

@Mochan i'm a noob when it comes to a lot of things. so don't fee bad.

Mochan

@jokerdino What, so you can re-install frequently? Or just living off the thing? hell no

msPeachy

@jokerdino nope

got into it when I searched tweaking

okay, will work on tweaking now boss

jrg

@hakermania Y U INSTALL BACKTRACK TO METAL? You're supposed to run it off a VM or LiveCD - bare metal installs are so dangerous. shudder

Mochan

@jrg Haha. I'm noob at most things, but I'm young and inexperienced (feels like I'm suggesting perverted things...)

jokerdino

@msPeachy hm they are different actually.

hakermania

12:19 PM

@Takkat as for linux, their partitions are on sda1 and 6 and a swap at 5

Mochan

@jokerdino Yes. -sadface-

jokerdino

@msPeachy no no. i was just wondering if you are super fast

@Mochan i use devel release

Olive Twist

@jrg Oh.. yeah. none of my Ubuntu installation last longer than 90 days

hakermania

@jrg backtrack has nothing to do with the problem I have

Mochan

@jokerdino Care to explain? -noob- :((

jokerdino

12:20 PM

@Mochan i use 12.10

Mochan

@jokerdino OH. Right. =.=

jrg

@hakermania actually, it does. triple boots cause all problems with MBR and grubs.

jokerdino

@Mochan it isn't that hard. just install the -desktop package and you are good to go

jrg

@OliveTwist Join da club.

jokerdino

@jrg er, at one point of time, i had about 5 boots. o.O

Takkat

12:21 PM

@hakermania yeah that looks good. Where is Windows? Here's some more information: help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2?action=show&redirect=GRUB2

Olive Twist

Joined..

jrg

I've gotta run. talk to you later guys, don't kill any kittens.

jokerdino

cya!

hakermania

@Takkat windows is on 2

jrg

@jokerdino if you do 5 boots, i want to shake your hand.

hakermania

12:21 PM

@jrg Never had a problem. An installation which altered the windows registry caused the problem

jokerdino

@jrg I did. Just purged them all last week.

Olive Twist

@jokerdino I now have 2..3..4..5....6 boots now

Takkat

@hakermania in case you have one drive only it's easy. GRUB MBR can only be on /sda then.

Mochan

@jokerdino Haha. I would rather have a permanent OS on my PC that just works. I may as well install OS X (HELL NO) but I love Ubuntu. Perhaps what your suggestion is quite reasonable...

jokerdino

windows 7, debian, fedora, ubuntu 12.10 and 12.04

@OliveTwist wait what?

Mochan

12:22 PM

@jrg Oops

jokerdino

@Mochan Just to clarify, what I say is not reasonable.

Mochan

@jokerdino Windows 7 and Ubuntu 12.04 because I'm just noob like that -.-

Olive Twist

windows 7, edubuntu 12.04, ubuntu 12.10, mageia 2, Mint 13, ubuntustudio 12.04

jokerdino

I talk insane.

@Mochan You installed Ubuntu. You are not noob.

@OliveTwist omgbbq

Mochan

@jokerdino Oh yeah. I'm not great with English... but yeah. I mean reasonable to a lazy user?? XD

jrg

12:23 PM

Forget talking insane, I am insane.

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jokerdino

@Mochan But you live Down Under.

Olive Twist

@Mochan +1 for not being great with English

jokerdino

And, really. I don't really talk a lot of sense or logic.

Mochan

@jokerdino Doesn't mean I'm full Australian

jokerdino

I just blabber

Mochan

12:24 PM

@OliveTwist You know it

jokerdino

@Mochan oh

Mochan

@jokerdino It's not really an excuse. I just have a hard time expressing... computer-related things. Other than that... I'm like... 1/8 Korean -.-

5

Takkat

@hakermania: askubuntu.com/questions/88384/… may be better

Mochan

안녕하세요.

jokerdino

I know how Aussies wonder how people can be multilingual while they are barely good at one language ;)

{joke}

Mochan

12:26 PM

-not amused-

Sorry. That was mean.

jokerdino

@Mochan Hello

Mochan

(my post) <--- example of troubles

jokerdino

I am writing and writing and writing an answer.

Still barely done.

Takkat

BBL

msPeachy

@jokerdino all tweaking including closed ones?

jokerdino

12:28 PM

@msPeachy I guess.

If a post is locked, flag it for mod to remove it

Mochan

I'm actually not bad at English. I don't really know Korean that well, because English is my Mother tongue. But I... blabber... and say nonsensical things =3=

jokerdino

@Mochan blingo

msPeachy

@jokerdino what of those about Ubuntu Tweak and swap tweaking something

Mochan

@jokerdino +1

jokerdino

@msPeachy what

ubuntu-tweak is a configuration tool

swap tweaking, not sure

msPeachy

12:30 PM

lol. no swap tweaking is not tag, but the question is about ram and swap

Mochan

-Not fit for discussion-

jokerdino

throw away tweaking then.

Mochan

@jokerdino But tweaking is fun ;A;

jokerdino

@Mochan :P

msPeachy

Title reads: Mysterious RAM and SWAP usage

smartboyhw

12:31 PM

Hi guys back

Mochan

Says the girl (you heard right... -.-) who messed up her OS by doing so (Windows _ Ubuntu together). Skills.

@smartboyhw wb

smartboyhw

@Mochan thx

hakermania

@Takkat You won't believe it, but I was trying to write you something here while the boot repair utility was being installed and its window pop-uped while I was typing very fast and I pressed something random and it begun to repair my grub and it worked just fine! I am now talking from my Hard Drive :D

thanks a lot!

smartboyhw

Hi @hakermania btw

hakermania

Hi @smartboyhw

jokerdino

12:32 PM

@msPeachy edited

Mochan

@hakermania Damn! Lucky! Like a boss, dude

hakermania

@Mochan Like the luckiest ba@st*rd of all time :P

Mochan

@hakermania Hell yesssss

smartboyhw

@hakermania lol

Mochan

MY POST WAS STARRED?! WHY?! O_O

hakermania

12:34 PM

@Mochan starring a post just means that it is good

Mochan

Ty to whomever (jokerdino, most likely?) did it ^o^ -flattered-

Hah, now it has 3

I just did.

/me starred it

4

12:34 PM

I was the fourth one.

Mochan

@hakermania It wasn't good though :S [It's not really an excuse. I just have a hard time expressing... computer-related things. Other than that... I'm like... 1/8 Korean -.-]

smartboyhw

I am third

Mochan

@smartboyhw Cookies to you

hakermania

I am 2nd :P

smartboyhw

@Mochan I will throw it at @jokerdino's face then

Mochan

12:35 PM

Cookies to you all! (^o^)/

hakermania

Gotta boot to windows to see whether AutoCAD runs now.. Bye :) !

Mochan

@smartboyhw DO IT! I DARE YOU OuO

smartboyhw

@Mochan lol

Mochan

@hakermania Good luck bro!

msPeachy

dino, what about this? askubuntu.com/questions/52508/…

Olive Twist

12:36 PM

@Mochan if you solved your problem, give me a ping

Mochan

@OliveTwist Will do. Doubt it though. I think I'm going to fry my PC before I do

jokerdino

@msPeachy sometimes, you can just remove the tag.

Olive Twist

I really wanted to see how this problem get solved.

Mochan

@OliveTwist ...

Olive Twist

but it is your choice

Mochan

12:37 PM

FINE! I'LL TRY MY VERY BEST ! -tears of fake bravery and noobiness-

Olive Twist

frying is not a bad idea

Mochan

@OliveTwist For eggs.

You guys are quick typers... //dies

smartboyhw

@Mochan Don't die

Olive Twist

jokerdino is the fastest

but Eliah like typing long strings ;P

jokerdino

@EliahKagan I have expanded the answer. Is that alright now? :)

@OliveTwist I am not.

@OliveTwist That I agree.

Mochan

12:40 PM

@smartboyhw =Your condolences has been passed on the corpse

smartboyhw

@Mochan Oh lol

Mochan

@OliveTwist Lol. Never directly talked too Eliah... too scared. Not because Eliah's personality or whatever... but Eliah is too not-nooby :S

@smartboyhw XD

jokerdino

I am TEH noob

msPeachy

@jokerdino done with tweaking.
minimize has 16 while minimizing has 8, which should be retag?

Olive Twist

@Mochan nooby means?

jokerdino

12:42 PM

@msPeachy the smaller one goes to bigger one

Mochan

@jokerdino When you spell the like that, yes. But overall, with like 89 reputation, I take the cake.

@OliveTwist Ssh! I invented the word. It means n00b-like.

XD

Eliah Kagan

@jokerdino I like that answer very much. (And I'll be able to upvote it, in 11 hours.)

Olive Twist

@EliahKagan lol

hi @EliahKagan

jokerdino

@EliahKagan Oh alrightie. Thanks much for approval.

@Mochan I want the cake.

Mochan

Hello @EliahKagan ^^

Eliah Kagan

12:43 PM

@OliveTwist Hi.

Olive Twist

@Mochan was talking you are not much free with him

;P

Mochan

@jokerdino TOO BAD! MY CAKE! >:D

jokerdino

Noooo~OO~O

Eliah Kagan

@jokerdino Actually, I think there may be one error. reportbug is not installed on my 11.10 machine, which has ubuntu-desktop and lubuntu-desktop installed.

Mochan

@OliveTwist Much free? Sorry what?

Fails to understand/

jokerdino

12:44 PM

@EliahKagan So I am wrong after all. Thank goodness I added a small disclaimer before that.

> This utility is installed on all Ubuntu systems as well.

That got me confused o.O

i have the package installed and am wondering if it was part of ubuntu-dev-tools

Mochan

17.4k. I am jealous, jokerdino

jokerdino

@Mochan That's the SE network rep.

smartboyhw

!?

Mochan

@jokerdino ?

jokerdino

I like the association bonus. So I sign up everywhere. :D

Mochan

12:46 PM

@jokerdino =3=

jokerdino

I mean, it is more than what I have in any single site.

Eliah Kagan

@jokerdino Yes, it is. Simulating installation of ubuntu-dev-tools on my Oneiric box shows reportbug as a dependency that is installed.

smartboyhw

@jokerdino :D

Mochan

@jokerdino Ah. Right.

jokerdino

@EliahKagan I see. I'll fix it in a moment.

Mochan

12:48 PM

I'm going to be annoying and say it. I'm gonna. I'm bored. Gasp. I've let off something irritating.

^---- The post, I mean. -.-

jokerdino

o.O

If you don't come once every month, we would be fine :P

Mochan

Daylight Savings for Australia is starting soon. Crying.

@jokerdino =.= Smart. You are.

jokerdino

@EliahKagan Thank you. Fixed the erratum.

@Mochan I.. what?

Mochan

@jokerdino >.>

I hate when the room is temporarily dead. :(

jokerdino

:*

Amith KK

12:52 PM

BBL

Mochan

@jokerdino Kisses? :\

jokerdino

No

Mochan

=//= Pucker? I use irregular emoticons

jokerdino

You use Eastern emoticons.

I use the western ones.

Mochan

Genius. One does not simply use the internet without using a single emoticon.

Olive Twist

12:58 PM

I'll be doing upgrading my RAM (both internel and externel) today

jokerdino

good sir

Olive Twist

@jokerdino you did sign up for every site?

jokerdino

meh

Olive Twist

you only have 16 other

jokerdino

i have 17 accounts? woah

Prasad

1:01 PM

Hello everyone !!!

See y'all

@Mochan cya

I'm out

good night

I have 41

1:03 PM

lol....is this takkat ?

jokerdino

@Prasad yeah he is hiding from you

msPeachy

startup-applications to autostart?

Prasad

@jokerdino he he heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

jokerdino

the other way maybe?

@msPeachy that one should be mod remapped actually

Prasad

hello @hakermania :)

msPeachy

1:05 PM

autostart has 91, while startup-applications has 46

there's also just startup

hakermania

@Mochan It runs very well :) I still cannot believe that I solved all the issues like this

@Prasad Hi there!

jokerdino

@msPeachy yeah. i'll get one of the mods to do it.

startup is different.

msPeachy

yes i see

what about automatic?

jokerdino

o.O

msPeachy

there are 25 with automatic

jokerdino

1:07 PM

@msPeachy i'll take care of that

msPeachy

hi prasad, maybe he's on hibernate mode?

Prasad

@msPeachy (on volume level .1) yeah :D

smartboyhw

hey @Prasad

Prasad

@smartboyhw hi...

I can't open dash....it freezes....did reset unity....deleted home....but no improvement...why is that?... :(

/mute :D

Eliah Kagan

1:30 PM

This question should instead be a bug report in 12.10, so we should close it as off-topic:

0

Q: Login not working after upgrade to 12.10

I just upgraded to 12.10 from 12.04, and now my login isn't working. When I log in with the incorrect password, it tells me that it's wrong, but when I log in with the correct password, it just brings be me back to the login screen.

Prasad

brb

penreturn

0

Q: Two Gnome Panels, one on each screen - want panel on bottom

First, I tried searching for this issue, but no question is similar. I have two screens - stacked as per screenshot below. 12.04 Classic stupidly puts a panel on each screen. This is unsatisfactory. Doesn't anyone do any testing with multiple screens? (quite common nowadays - top one is a moni...

hi everybody

hi

hi

hi

1:37 PM

@penreturn Hi.

penreturn

\o/

smartboyhw

\o/

Takkat

@hakermania glad you got is sorted out. Does AutoCAD still work?

back

Eliah Kagan

Should this be duped to a more general master question about installing drivers in Ubuntu?

0

Q: How to download specific ubuntu drivers for my pc

I am using hp sg3650il desktop pc.I am new to linux so all i want to know that how to download specific drivers for my pc.

drivers

penreturn

The Linux kernel ships with drivers for most consumer hardware, so unless you have something rather unusual, your machine should run Ubuntu out of the box. – George Edison

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smartboyhw

1:39 PM

@penreturn The quote of the day eh?

penreturn

yeahhh :D for @EliahKagan i found askubuntu.com/questions/15317/…

Takkat

@penreturn lol a graphic card indeed is rather unusual. ;)

penreturn

:D

Eliah Kagan

@penreturn I don't think that should be the master, as it's quite specific (while at the same time not all that precise about what is being asked). I could imagine closing that as a duplicate of this, though.

penreturn

@EliahKagan +1 niceee

jokerdino

1:43 PM

0

Q: Why am I asked for a password after automatic login?

Possible Duplicate: Keyring On Startup popup I use automatic login because I don't want to enter a password every time I start the system. Although automatic login works, I'm still asked for my password after the desktop is loaded (I need to enter it three times). How can I fix this?

gnome login automatic

Closed -> closed -> closed -- > closed

Eliah Kagan

@penreturn As you seem to agree, I've close-voted.

penreturn

im going to provide some screenshot for kamil

Takkat

@EliahKagan not so sure if a general/conincal driver question will work. Proprietary drivers usually are specific to one of hardwares. A generic question would then have to be a huge list...

penreturn

shoud i edit or make new answer?

Eliah Kagan

@penreturn Which answer are you considering editing?

penreturn

1:50 PM

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A: How to download specific ubuntu drivers for my pc

Let Ubuntu decide: Select "System," "Administration," "Hardware Drivers." Click "Enable" to set your selected drivers to use and to include them in future system updates. Select "System," "Administration," "Update Manager" to scan your system for available software and hardware updates. Alte...

Eliah Kagan

@penreturn If the main change you'd make is to add the screenshot, I'd recommend editing.

Takkat

@penreturn Edit would be a nice gesture. Don't forget to delete the Hardware update we are supposed to get from update manager ;)

penreturn

i think the answer base on gnome classic... theres no system>administration on unity... please somebody edit the asnwer... ill provide the img since my english not very good :D

Eliah Kagan

@penreturn I recommend keeping System > Administration (after all, people use GNOME Fallback / Classic), but adding information about how to do it in Unity.

penreturn

yup just add For Unity ....

im not edit that answer... just provide screenshot

Eliah Kagan

1:54 PM

@penreturn If you do the edit, I'll read through it and if I think the English can be improved, I will edit it again. That might be the most efficient way to do this, since you seem to have a clear idea in your head about what should be added and changed where. (Plus, then you get credit for your contributions, in the editing history.)

penreturn

orite sir

Eliah Kagan

However, if you'd prefer not to edit the answer yourself, that's OK. (In that case, I'll eventually get around to editing it. ;) )

Takkat

@penreturn: go for Copy Editor!

penreturn

ahhahha okey check... i donno what else to tell :D

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