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02:03
Erm...
> "Use only safe Rust, and avoid all panics with proper Error handling"
panic!("tried to get the next token 100 times, failed");
No panics, eh?
my heart ain't ok today
and i got no meds either
@Serg are you ok?
@Serg Are you alright?
Don't be afraid to drop by a medical clinic to see what's up. And if there isn't one, the hospital would be good too.
All this working out is really starting to show...
I'm ok. just generally unhealthy dude
02:14
Smile at a girl you like and ask her out for a coffee @Serg
@TheXed yes supper and it's only 8:15pm now
@WinEunuuchs2Unix that is how i get restraining orders.
@KazWolfe after throwing you in jail so many times they just give up :D
oh, interesting question thanks to eunuuchs.
my heart rate is through the roof it seems
How many of you would actually rather go to jail than actually release your hard drive's encryption keys?
02:18
@Serg that happened to me a few years ago... you need to slow down a bit, get into routine, then heart rate modulates... plus you have to delete all the "bad things".
I have been to jail for less @KazWolfe
Actually that is a lie, I have never been to jail
lol@TheXed, I've been to jail over divorce of all things.
The lawyers say "give me all this money", you say "it doesn't exist"... so off to jail you go.
wait what happened, @Serg (if you dont mind my asking)?
@WinEunuuchs2Unix but you didn't dare give him the encryption key to your HDD did you?
@TheXed I don't even use a password, let alone encrypting memory.
I tried to set my sudo password to the number "1" but Ubuntu doesn't let me do it :(
02:21
Oh hell no...you are so screwed when big brother comes looking for you!
I found a hook yesterday and set the time out to 120 minutes happy dance
or you better stop watching pron...
Or when the SSH bots come.
(Assuming you have SSH running.)
What does SSH stand for anyway?
Secure SHell
02:23
It's only as secure as you make it.
I only use Bourne Again SHell (bash).
No, not that kind of shell.
SSH is more of a transport.
she sells sea shells by the seashore
Oh a network layer you mean?
02:24
No that is SSSSBTS @WinEunuuchs2Unix
SSH is a cleartext tunnel that allows you to remote in and access your system.
Well, I guess SSH would be layer 7.
SSH is awesome...
i think it's more L5, @NathanOsman
I forget all those layers from school @Nathan, I remember transport, application layer, but not much else.
02:25
I don't remember the last time I have hooked a monitor up to my Raspberry Pi thanks to SSH...
The Open Systems Interconnection model (OSI model) is a conceptual model that characterizes and standardizes the communication functions of a telecommunication or computing system without regard to their underlying internal structure and technology. Its goal is the interoperability of diverse communication systems with standard protocols. The model partitions a communication system into abstraction layers. The original version of the model defined seven layers. A layer serves the layer above it and is served by the layer below it. For example, a layer that provides error-free communications across...
@WinEunuuchs2Unix the easy one to remember is the physical layer...
Layer 7 would be the data being transmitted over SSH (Layer 5), I'd guess.
Let's just say SSH is Layer 5/7
@TheXed You mean the thing you trip over?
@NathanOsman yup that is the one...
02:26
@KazWolfe ...because it can be used for file transfer.
that's just SFTP though, isn't it?
Doesn't SSH span all the layers?
no you're right
SSH is L7.
@TheXed SSH is in Layer 7, but the connection takes all the layers to work.
Exactly.
02:27
@TheXed Oh yes now I remember the physical layer. As it were I have an orange cross over cable I bought last year and I'm gonna plug the two laptops together... after I download cowsay... and figure out double suspend... and... and... and... get my xmas lights to dance to music.
@KazWolfe I disagree Layer 6 application layer, because it interfaces with the user...
SSH uses SSL
lol @Nathan
SSH is L7, SSL is L6, Sockets are L5, TCP is L4, packets are L3, Ethernet is L2, cable is L1
02:28
@WinEunuuchs2Unix it uses SSL, that makes it layer 6
@KazWolfe Sockets are layer 4.
ಠ_ಠ
no.
they're l5
TCP is layer 4.
And TCP is a socket protocol.
@TheXed I don't care if the orange Ethernet cross over cable is layer 6 I just want to plug it in between the two laptops and control one from the other.... like in that Mission Impossible movie :)
A network socket is an endpoint of a connection across a computer network. Today, most communication between computers is based on the Internet Protocol; therefore most network sockets are Internet sockets. More precisely, a socket is a handle (abstract reference) that a local program can pass to the networking application programming interface (API) to use the connection, for example "send this data on this socket". Sockets are often represented internally as simple integers, which identify which connection to use. A socket API is an application programming interface (API), usually provided by...
It says OSI L5
except for raw, wherein it bypasses L4 altogether.
02:30
Okay, I concede.
@WinEunuuchs2Unix your crossover cable is layer 1
We're 1-1 then.
1 mistake for me. 1 for you. :D
@TheXed well it's layer nothing right now, because I've never plugged it in!
Ask Ubuntu gift exchange - where we all give each other books about network engineering.
02:31
@WinEunuuchs2Unix no it is still a layer, it is just unused....
i like the idea, but i need to find another book to fit under my wobbly desk
:D
and then your wifi router would be your layer 1...
@TheXed If a tree falls in the forest and nobody is there, does it still make a sound?
@NathanOsman According to microphones, yes.
What is the sound of one hand clapping?
02:33
Or are they layer 2?
slap your desk
WiFi is L1.
@NathanOsman depends on what the one hand is clapping...
Runs out of philosophical questions...
The established data link over wifi is L2
someone else's faces, probably very similar to another hand...
02:33
@TheXed yes that unused layer is still in the plastic zip lock bag never opened :D
What about WPA2 and WEP?
802.11 PHY is L1
I'm using TKIP or something I'm not supposed to use.
802.11 MAC/LLC is L2
@NathanOsman layer 2
02:34
Layer 3 for WPA2, etc.
L1 for phy
@NathanOsman just a layer of rubber...
Sneakernet doesn't count as "networking" really.
@KazWolfe Yes it does. It just has extremely high latency.
02:36
@KazWolfe but it does count for data transfer...
Round-trip time is through the roof.
Then...
@NathanOsman sometimes there is no return trip made...
L1 is disks, L2 is drive controller, L3 is software to read/write from drives
02:37
@TheXed No ACKs?
Lame.
Correction. Kernel takes L3/L4. EXT4 takes L4/L5
remember back in the day when no one secured their wireless networks...
L6 is files, L7 is working with files.
and you could just sit outside your neighbors house and use their wifi...and download illegal movies...
Honestly though...you can't have one layer without the rest....
no you can ignore layers in some cases
02:39
if layer 1 (Ethernet cable) is unplugged, layers 2-7 do nothing...
@KazWolfe sometimes...I guess...
yeah but you can work in just Layer 3 without more abstraction.
Side Note: @KazWolfe when I am having a bad day at work...I just think to myself "at least I didn't have to vote for President today"
4
whenever i have a bad day at work, i remember that our DNS servers can't be DDOS'd.
Wait.
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUu
now i get to think "at least Prod-3 didn't crash today"
Do I have DNS servers at work?
Yeah I guess I do...
I just never have to do anything with them...
linux needs more wolves.
02:44
More @KazWolfe!
@TheXed I'm thinking about Nov 8 elections and Plan B.
@WinEunuuchs2Unix what is Plan B? isn't it a drug you take after getting pregnant?
Plan B is strategic voting up against DNC and GOP and MSM games.
@TheXed >.>
02:48
After all the presidential primaries and run-offs have taken a lot of my time that could have been spent on Network Transport Protocol Layers, not to mention downloading cowsay.
@WinEunuuchs2Unix lol...not the OSI model again...speaking of which, what layer is the Human?
Most humans are tied into the God Layer... but media and organized religion hijacks it.
@WinEunuuchs2Unix Humans are no where near God layer...despite common theology...
I didn't say humans were god.
@KazWolfe what happened is that my blood pressure and pulse skyrocketed, I think
02:52
@Serg I'm sorry I said I passed you in rep league points earlier.... it was all in fun.
@WinEunuuchs2Unix i don't think that was the cause
@Serg I don't know I just double checked and I'm only 150 points behind ByteCommander who "serged ahead" with his "sudo insults" question and I might pass him... so my heart beat went up.
@TheXed so yeah I think Humans are tied into the God Layer, but they aren't like God, but the media hijacks messages from God and turns it into their corporate media masters goals which unfortunately revolves around war, suffering, poverty, delusions of grandeure, etc. etc.
No, we can't be tied to the God layer, because prayer is the transport layer...
@WinEunuuchs2Unix we are putting way to much thought into this lol
@TheXed God doesn't hear prayers unless you speak it into his ear when he walks the earth. Old prayer is good self-meditation though.
@WinEunuuchs2Unix then perhaps the physical layer is broke...
03:02
@TheXed No the mass media, corporations, hillary clintons of the world control the layer. even trump in an awkward way is part of the system.
YOU"RE FIRED.
Damn...I just got fired...and I didn't work for you...
wait...am I drunk? I haven't had any alcohol in the last 24 hours..I can't be drunk....
DID SOMEONE MENTION GOD?
@KazWolfe yes...many times...
in a positive or negative light?
03:07
We where just discussing how Donald Trump is a god among men and Hillary Clinton is his demi-god...
Actually none of that happened...
Trump is god of bs , that's what he is , ha
Hillary is his goddess
Actually we where just trying to determine where humans, and God fell on the OSI model...
Air: L1
Humans: L2-L7
God: <NullPointerError>
no, humans layer 1, prayer: transport layer, God (?)
So then it terminates on L1.
03:10
@KazWolfe yea pretty much...
I'm here to say that this is getting ridiculous.
I'm here to offend all religious people and risk bans for neutrality.
But @WinEunuuchs2Unix asserts that God doesn't hear prayer, I assert that layer 1 is broken..thus God can't hear prayer
You think you have to pick the lesser of two evils: Trump or Clinton. But Plan B is coming :D
@WinEunuuchs2Unix nobody is getting pregnant after they vote...
03:11
@TheXed In Canada at least, a decade ago there was a saying "from your lips to God's ears".
@WinEunuuchs2Unix I certainly hope nobody thinks that.
But I know people that do... :(
@WinEunuuchs2Unix that sounds...kind of seductive lol
@TheXed It was a Canada saying, Nathan has heard it as have I.
But your media (in America?) has different controls than Nathan and I both in Canada.
You must often choose between the twin Demons of Logic and Reason, and the Light of God.
inb4 chatban
@KazWolfe that is more complicated that 99 transport protocol layers.
03:14
except fiber.
It comes from Psalm 130:2 'Lord, hear my voice: let thine ears be attentive to the voice of my supplications'.
@TheXed you're a basement Baptist Preacher in addition to Network Transport Protocol Layer specialist?
@WinEunuuchs2Unix maybe....maybe not...
or just really good at using Google...
Anyway I think Psalms was written by King David and meant to be a collection of love poems mostly aimed at young maidens who didn't recognize his face.
@WinEunuuchs2Unix I think you're thinking of the Song of Solomon.
03:17
@WinEunuuchs2Unix yeah, Psalms is clearly directed to God.
@NathanOsman No Solomon was son of David most famous for his divorce judgement (in my mind) "We'll just cut this child in half" and the mother said "NOOOO"
@WinEunuuchs2Unix Yes, I'm familiar with that. But the Psalms were not a collection of love poems.
So then the mother got custody under King Solomon's judgement. Which was righteous I think.
Scripturally, the Song of Songs is unique in its celebration of sexual love.[6] It gives "the voices of two lovers, praising each other, yearning for each other, proffering invitations to enjoy".
@TheXed Aren't you the one saying an hour ago Big Brother was watching your porn on SSH or something like that?
03:20
@WinEunuuchs2Unix but it is encrypted and behind Tor...
i need to do something with my halth
The bible is Porn version 1.0 according to your quotation.
health
@WinEunuuchs2Unix It isn't, although a few people will claim that.
@WinEunuuchs2Unix I didn't say it was right...I just said what it is...
03:21
@Serg smile at a girl you like and ask her out for coffee.
cuz i doubt I'll pass engineering without a few heart attacks
@WinEunuuchs2Unix i already have a girlfriend
@Serg just don't say hi to them...
@Serg Then you already know who to smile at! ;)
@NathanOsman exactly
@Serge if I had a girlfriend I wouldn't be in here chatting about God's Network Transport Protocol Layers, King David and his son King Solomon.
It's Friday night for crying out loud!
03:23
@WinEunuuchs2Unix and yet I am married and I am not doing anything better then you are...
Sorry i didn't realize the langauge was so bad in that video...
@TheXed being married with children... well that's not the same as Serg single with a girlfriend (who is also single and hopefully not married with grandchildren). He should not be in Ask Ubuntu so often.
@WinEunuuchs2Unix fair enough...
What part of the world do you live in @Serg?
State of Washington.
I love Washington state! Hiway 20 rocks.
Ever been to Republic?
Wait... @TheXed I was asking Serg, not you!
03:28
@WinEunuuchs2Unix you are right, I stand down.
Well Serg isn't talking... what part of the world do you live in @TheXed
Illinois
Chicago is a great city.... I went into a bar there
And they had like 40 TV's.
I wanted to watch the Edmonton Oiler's hockey game and they tuned in the right channel so I could watch it.
Of course since then I gave them a 100 year curse (the Oilers not the bar).
Those downstate don't really like Chicago...
But I am only 1.5 hours away...
Oh well they steal all your great lakes water.
Understandable.
03:35
and our money
You have to pay for Obama's retirement.
and his library...
Not to mention all the blacks the police kill.
But that is okay, Trump is going to bail us out.
Tyranny isn't cheap you know!
Trump can be controlled, Clinton can't be.
She has delusions of Grandeur,
03:37
Clinton is controlled by her husband...Trump by Putin...
No... Putin and Trump echo the same darknet secrets.
Ever heard of the darknet?
@WinEunuuchs2Unix yes one time...
Actually the deep web is more intriguing...
I just found a Windows 160Gb drive from an Inspiron Mini
back when I was first learning python
GOOD GOD
the darknet is primarily made up of data that just isn't accessible, password protected, encrypted data and so on...
Thank you King David.
03:42
Who are you calling King David?
Moi
Oh...
Anyway @TheXed Putin and Trump both have access to "darknet like information" on a certain line of truth (US state department would call them lies) and they both speak them in the same 24 to 48 hour period.
Qui, et vous.
Of course they have access to the Darknet...
They have access to whatever they want...both are trigger happy one has access to nuclear weapons, and the other one is rich enough to build his own nuclear weapons who is going to stand in their way?
@TheXed You are too focused on the media telling you who might kill someone and ignoring the millions that have already been killed by Clinton, Obama and Bush.
03:46
Eh. If it's alright could we not talk politics?
@WinEunuuchs2Unix yeah but we can't change the past...we have to look to our future now...
Indeed you have probably bought the line "we are going to save this country by killing the people (oops it was collateral damage)" hook line and sinker.
@David mini 10?
@JourneymanGeek we have been talking about politics for the last 3 hours, why stop now?
@TheXed "We can't change the past" is the media line as they plan new deaths and tell you it is human rights, or democracy but you still believe them.
03:47
@WinEunuuchs2Unix I haven't bought any lines...unless we are talking cocaine...
Actually that is a lie too, I have never taken an illicit drugs...
3 hours.... Good enough reason? :P
birth control is an illicit drug to a baptist.... it's all in the mind of the brainwashed.
sorry...
braniwashed is the wrong word...
I don't use birth control either
... conditioned to believe a certain way.... that 's a better phrase.
and I am not a baptist...
03:49
sorry bad experience with baptists and seat belts when I was 4 years old.
@TheXed you're male tho
99% of peple are male in AskUbuntu.
@WinEunuuchs2Unix I, am guessing that this experince involved you being buckled into a car and forced to go to a Baptist church when you where 4...
anyway, I should probably go to bed...
before I fal asleep here...
No I went to church alone when I was 4 and 5. Just this one time a driver won't let me out of a seat belt. Which is why I have so many not wearing seat belt tickets on my driver's license record today I surmise... But I'm not a psychologist and loathe self diagnosis.
@JourneymanGeek Indeed.
Strange occurance.. the drive has an input/output error :/
03:55
I see...
no you don't
@WinEunuuchs2Unix Not a chat for AU general..
I thought this was meta?
@David that's usually not a good sign
I must have took a wrong turn at Albuquerque behind Bugs Bunny.
03:56
david@david-desktop:~$ sudo fsck /dev/sda2
fsck from util-linux 2.28.2
david@david-desktop:~$ '
wtf
@David I'd do smart tests
Do what now?
S.M.A.R.T. he meant.
hard drive utility
Smartmontools. If you have a de, gsmartctl is nice
I'm on my phone. It autocucumbers me sometimes
Well okay I'm running a test now but ETA is 60 mins
O..
nvm
Complete error log:

SMART Error Log Version: 1
ATA Error Count: 921 (device log contains only the most recent five errors)
CR = Command Register [HEX]
FR = Features Register [HEX]
SC = Sector Count Register [HEX]
SN = Sector Number Register [HEX]
CL = Cylinder Low Register [HEX]
CH = Cylinder High Register [HEX]
DH = Device/Head Register [HEX]
DC = Device Command Register [HEX]
ER = Error register [HEX]
ST = Status register [HEX]
Powered_Up_Time is measured from power on, and printed as
DDd+hh:mm:SS.sss where DD=days, hh=hours, mm=minutes,
@JourneymanGeek I will need some assistance, as I have no idea what any of THAT^ means
Do you think the disk is old enough to not be supported by AHCI?
04:07
good night my friends.
Night
Have fun at the gym tomorrow and with wife and kids.
@TheXed Goodnight.
@David the mini 10 was sata but didn't support AHCI
@NathanOsman the weather got nicer in Edmonton today, how about Abbotsford?
04:14
I'm not in Abbotsford :D
I'm further west.
I just want my windows files ;m;
@Smoke Where there is smoke there is fire. And you are fired for span.
04:29
@WinEunuuchs2Unix USA, Denver
The Mile High city.
yes, very high
Maybe the altitude is what is causing problems.
That may sound silly but the air actually is thinner up there.
If your body can't get enough oxygen, your heart will beat faster.
Hi all :D
@Serg Denver is a great city. Loved it in November on the patio for dinner. The private Leer Jet flight out of the city was the best (and only) private jet flight I've had!
04:41
Hi, ST
@WinEunuuchs2Unix Ooh. Fancy!
:) . I am at a 24hr Hackathon rt now :D I am exited! :D
@SeverusTux That's awesome!
What are you hacking? :D
hmmm . . . let's see if proxy will work at home
:) Theme : Smart City
04:42
Cool.
@NathanOsman Well that was in 1985 when there were some companies in Edmonton with Leer jets.
oops 1987.
Firefox's proxy settings don't do jack
I've given up.
I wonder if I could install MAc on 160 GB...
Firefox , WTF ?
no matter what proxy IP I use, google still gets my real IP
kek
05:02
funny junk, proxy that blocks tons of websites
isn't the whole purpose is to unblock stuff ?
cool, finally found a brazillian proxy that works
takes forever to load, but at least yahoo and bing seem to come up
google times out
Why is monit sending RST packets...
finally got something working . . .
@Rinzwind I found something for you
05:27
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of body, link following arrow in body, pattern-matching website in body: The Shocking Truth About Elastin In Skin? by hodiridr on askubuntu.com
again...
@Serg I wanna gobble them down
O_O
I hear loud voices outside...
Including a loud sound
ummm
erm
The yelling makes me think there's something going on there... something canny.
I hear crying now
should I call the ambulance? Police?
I'mma leave now
see ya
i'm back
there's been a fight outside
crap
hopefully police has been already called
05:41
yeah
I couldve swore i heard gunshots
06:07
Is it safe to triple boot?
sure, why not?
Idk, didn't know if grub could handle OSX
BRUH
Tripple booting is safe, but you need to know which OS controls your grub, if you're tripple booting with Linux distros
I personally prefer having extra OSs in VM
less messy, easy to nuke
I'm gonna have to move boot from the SSD to the HDD...
Which is currently mounted as /home
06:30
@David OS X wouldn't run on non OS X hardware without some work
which would mean a non standard bootloader
which is based on grub
triple booting is messy tho
heard a scream
hmmm
07:05
GAH
Ubuntu keeps fscking my disks and then kicks me to login screen
wtfff
07:58
Docker Hub - automated builds are 100% useless.

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