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7:00 PM
I will be back when I am ready to be back and you shall behave until such time that occurs
 
@silverpenguin This can be arranged...
 
@Matthew Il get my coat, iv pulled e_e
@Matthew you have any more puzzle games 8402 is no longer a challenge I can complete it fairly fast now
 
@schroeder @RoryAlsop security.stackexchange.com/users/78240/badr-bellaj has quite a few effectively link only answers recently.
 
@Xander thankyou - will check now
 
@silverpenguin There us always play.elevatorsaga.com
 
7:02 PM
inb4 @Ohnana montana says WTF after reading the transcript
 
WTF?!
 
@Xander yeah
 
called it :)
 
@Matthew step one: be a pro dom
 
@Xander he's had really low quality answers for a few days
 
7:03 PM
grumble-whines at the monitor, looking for signs of @kalina every time a key strokes
 
@Iszi WTF mate
 
@schroeder Ah, ok, so you're on to him. I just noticed him today.
 
@Ohnana That seems far too much hassle. They'd just want me to do horrible things to them, and the house wouldn't get cleaned
 
@Iszi but now you realise i was just being a dick :P
 
also is there pet roleplay going on rn because i will turn into Flags, the Destroyer of Chat
THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT
 
7:05 PM
@silverpenguin Perhaps now. And that's really not something anyone wants to watch either.
 
@Ohnana Eh, we had some modswarms already today
 
@Ohnana can I play count the number of flags?
 
@Ohnana nah someone said m/s correctly before o/p ever came up
 
@Ohnana Mostly due to the photos of boobies, tits and bazookas
 
@Iszi Deleting before flag.
 
7:06 PM
@Xander Ah, thanks for the note.
 
you know what would be a great option for flagging
 
@Iszi No worries. I could see it comin' on that one.
 
a message appears "your message <message> has been flagged. Do you want to delete it, or settle this by outside moderation?"
 
@Xander if you want to clean this lot up you'd better limber up your deleting finger
 
and if you delete then it's all good, you have done the right thing
 
7:07 PM
@Xander I figured it was over a line somewhere, but also was simply a truthful description of events.
 
@RоryMcCune Ha, not even going to try.
 
@Ohnana That would actually make it a lot more fun
 
@Iszi Yeah, I get it. And it was, both. :-)
 
@Ohnana Or we could just handle this internally. Raise which specific issues/messages you'd like to see addressed, and we may well just self-moderate.
 
@Xander yeah that would be a lot of messages
 
7:09 PM
@Iszi that too, but my suggestion handles the case of "oh hey, this was offensive and i didn't realize"
 
@Ohnana Or by a fight to the death?
 
@Iszi well the whole line of chat was maaasssively off-topic
 
@RоryMcCune Umm... this is the DMZ. That's actually pretty hard to do - and really hard to be sure when it's been done.
 
@Iszi sneaky - you waited until I was playing the elevator game before posting that
 
@Iszi there are certain areas, (gore, guns, explicit sexual content) which are very likely to attract flags and drama
@Iszi in the general part those get skated around, pulled back from
 
7:11 PM
@Ohnana I'm not sure it does. Having a swarm of mods come in and delete/kick doesn't really help educate much.
 
given that they generate flags a lot
 
@Iszi yes, but before anyone sees the flag you have an opportunity to clean everything up
ie, it short circuits the flagging process with the person saying "okay, okay, it's gone"
 
I want to point out that @kalina has no problem handling me and I'm arguably the most annoying to her. The only logical model that explains this observation is that people other than her must lack in some area of social skills.
 
@MickLH whhy, whhy would you go back to trying to be antagonistic, you were doing so well at not doing it
 
That is not my intention? Honestly
 
7:14 PM
@MickLH "everyone's pissed off at me, hmm, must be their fault"
also i have a headache from reading the transcript, so i'm going to bugger off
 
@MickLH you literally just tried to insult the social skills of the room participants, in what world is that not antagonistic
 
@MickLH Just because you aren't trying to be a dick, doesn't mean you're not being a dick.
 
Adi
Have we had a Sec.SE April question?
 
you're all horrible people. good-day
 
@RоryMcCune I never said my social skills are better lol, I did end up here myself
 
7:15 PM
@Adi All the ones today
 
@Ohnana If anything's worth flagging, I'd much rather it be handled by a local team familiar with the environment - and probably even the particular discussion - before outsiders are brought in to deal with it out-of-context. And, if the person being flagged is reasonable (granted, not always a safe assumption) the "okay, okay it's gone" would come after a realization of what was offensive and why anyway.
 
@DavidFreitag This! Yes, but there is an important difference. Because I am not trying to be, I am open to direct suggestions on how to improve.
 
@MickLH "that people other than her must lack in some area of social skills." <-- exact quote, obvious negative context
 
I didn't think I was a horrible person :-(
 
@Iszi that's not how flags work though... they are network wide
 
7:15 PM
@RоryMcCune It was meant to be a playful gesture, a joke on the trope of computer guys
 
@Matthew I think he means April Fools' question
@MickLH Well it was insulting.
 
@MickLH ya might want to ease into that kind of thing, give it a little while, otherwise intent is easily missed
@Matthew you are? when did that happen?
 
Well I am sorry to each of you then, I'll try to tip toe more carefully I guess
 
@Iszi hence the only slightly intrusive habit I took up of replacing unnecessary swear words with mild/fluffy/funny words
 
2 mins ago, by Ohnana
you're all horrible people. good-day
 
7:17 PM
@RоryMcCune Precisely my point. I'm saying I'd rather, for most cases, have the issue discussed and handled internally before a flag to the outside is raised. It's only very extreme cases, usually involving particularly offensive and uncooperative users, that really warrant jumping right onto the flag button.
 
@DavidFreitag ahh missed that, hey @Ohnana I'm not horrible
 
@RoryAlsop It might be slightly intrusive, but it's freaking hysterical
2 mins ago, by Ohnana
also i have a headache from reading the transcript, so i'm going to bugger off
 
@DavidFreitag I try
 
@Iszi sure problem is outside of mods, after 1 minute posts are irrevocable, best approach I've found is to avoid certain topics and try to steer the room away from them
@Iszi absent mod. powers this is the best approach I've found to avoiding room drama
 
@RоryMcCune Yeah but as we all know that doesn't always work
 
7:18 PM
@DavidFreitag sure but we can try, that's kind of the room owner role, less powerful than a mod, so need to be more subtle :)
 
@RоryMcCune I'm genuinely oblivious here, what subtlety did I miss that makes the big difference between what I said, and @Ohnana calling everyone here "horrible people". I am under the impression that they are similar forms of humor, seriously sorry
 
well that and scurrilous pinwall stories
@MickLH @Ohnana has been here aaages and isnt' just coming off the back of an incident where intents were problematic. After a while people will take better intents from statements that can be miscontrued
 
Yeah, I actually find the RO power set to be a little odd. We can't edit/delete but we can 1-minute ban?
 
@MickLH textual stuff lacks context it's very easy for people to take offence
@Iszi yep 1 min ban is useful to get someone to cool their jets if no mods are about
 
Can you repeatedly 1 minute ban?
 
7:20 PM
@Iszi but if it escalates past that I scream for a mod to use the big hammer
@Matthew I dunno... hey @Simon you about for an experiment?
3
 
Well that makes pretty good sense, so I still have to have everyone understand that I'm never actually attacking anyone character
Like ever, at all, lol
 
@MickLH yeah once you've been about for a while, people will understand that no ill will was met. Personally I heavily overuse smilies to attempt to convey "I'm joking" intent with statments that could be taken the wrong way
 
@RоryMcCune LOL
 
Yeah it makes clear sense, I just didn't even consider that someone would construe it that way when I clearly have no basis to judge anyone's character on anyways
 
Oh, sweet! I can use pins to circumvent the star limit!
I was wondering about that.
 
7:24 PM
There is a star limit?
3
 
There's a star limit?
3
 
@Iszi also that works with the current story, which is one of @Simon and @kalina and an experiment gone wrong
 
There's a star limit?
3
 
lol, that echo again
 
/me wonders if he got it right - everyone else was doing it...
 
7:24 PM
Yeah. Dunno how many, but there's a limit on how many stars you can use in a day.
 
@Iszi pinwall stories are the most important RO duty
 
What does it say when you've run out?
 
@RоryMcCune Room description and tags right behind that, right?
 
@Iszi yeah description and tags change less often, the pinwall story changes every couple of days (there's generally good material floating about)
 
Well, that messed up the pinwall...
 
7:25 PM
@DavidFreitag "You have fully used your vote allowance for today. Click here to remove the notification bar."
 
@Iszi Weird. Never seen that.
 
@Matthew well 3 pinned items at the top are a reasonable story about simon being asked for an experiment, kalina suggesting he's not her slave and them saying that it had all gone horribly wrong 'cause of simon's donuty hole...
 
@RоryMcCune Then it goes all metaphysical about stars...
 
@Matthew ah well once it's off the pinned stuff I take no responsibility :)
 
Need another 4 people to ask about the star limit
 
7:27 PM
FYI i mean horrible in a loving way
didn't mean to cut and ruffle
WAAGHHGHGH i'm so tired and i have a full day of work Saturday
 
@Ohnana You mean like, how CAH is "a party game for truly horrible people"?
 
@Iszi exactly!
okay forreal now, i have a math quiz in like, an hour and a half
 
Best of luck
 
@RoryAlsop Finished the elevator game yet?
 
No - I had to cook dinner for most of my kids
 
7:30 PM
@Matthew Am I missing some sort of euphemism here?
 
Am on level 2 and keep running out of time with 1 guy left
 
@Iszi No... It's a game about elevators...
 
@RoryAlsop Most of? How did I not realize you have >=3 kids?
 
@RoryAlsop you need to get them on to cooking, they should be bringing you meals at your PC!
 
7:32 PM
Ugh. Great day for me to not have my glasses handy.
 
@Ohnana You didn't :3
 
@RоryMcCune Hamish does cook all breakfasts, and brunch for us at weekends before he goes off to coach
@Iszi dunno - I think I mentioned it before
 
@RoryAlsop Prolly just goldfished.
 
@DavidFreitag Fineeee. I'll give you another chance
 
7:37 PM
@MickLH You'll give me another chance?
 
@DavidFreitag sounds like the kind of thing @kalina would write...
 
@DavidFreitag Ugh, another chance already?? That drop was not so hardcore at all tbh, you're on thin ice
 
So @Matthew @RoryAlsop: How much JS background do you really need for that game? 'Cause I'm at near-zero.
 
I have this synthesizer, I immediately recognize the preset
 
7:39 PM
@Iszi Not a lot
 
@DavidFreitag love this
 
@Iszi -1?
 
Pendulum <3
 
@Iszi more than I have. I'm struggling
 
7:40 PM
@Iszi Which game?
 
@RоryMcCune EAT MY LEFT WEEN
 
@DavidFreitag Ok this is why I gave you another chance and even let you stretch it
 
@Simon your left one... as opposed to your right one?
 
@MickLH You've not heard of pendulum? :o
 
Oh I have lol
 
7:41 PM
@DavidFreitag Elevator game. Scroll up.
 
@Simon are you suggesting that you're that person from the biggest AMA on reddit?
 
@RоryMcCune :D:D:D:D:D
 
@Iszi I'm at work
 
Best AMA of all time.
With proof and everything.
 
7:41 PM
@DavidFreitag Totally SFW. In fact, almost looks like W.
 
@Simon wut
 
@Simon Okay, dude. I almost insta-flagged that. That's just. Ew.
 
Was that one the biggest ever?
 
@RoryAlsop The guy that has 2 weens.
 
The trick with the Elevator game is in getting the floors to behave properly - responding to button presses - at the same time as the elevator buttons
 
7:43 PM
@Simon wat
 
Oh, that was not the question.
I can't read.
 
@Matthew yeah - I'm baffled. I might need to open the readme
 
Wooop woop more overtime this week
Extra $200 in muh pocket
 
@Matthew Man, this is probably gonna make me feel really sorry for some guys I've bitched at before. A building I used to work in had 4 floors. After hours, the 4th floor would get locked down. The lobby has 3 elevators - 2 service all 4 floors and one services only 1-3. Multiple times, during 4th floor lockout, I'd find all elevators unresponsive to calls - even when they're on the floor the call is coming from.
 
@Iszi Yeah. I did solve one level by completely ignoring one floor... It was slowing me down
 
7:46 PM
@Simon You missed a good story of mine, you should read the transcript.
 
LOL
@DavidFreitag Link.
 
sec
3 hours ago, by David Freitag
Well I had three testicles.
 
@DavidFreitag nobody ever reads the transcript of the DMZ
 
Read on from there
 
EW
 
7:48 PM
@SEJPM I do if there's drama on the starwall
 
@DavidFreitag but then you have concrete permalinks where to look and not a vague "look at the transcript" with hundreds of messages being meant possibly
 
@SEJPM yah yah yah
@Simon LOL indeed
 
@Matthew Ahhh - the documentation was essential. It lets me know the other calls I am allowed to use
 
@RoryAlsop Yeah - the tutorial isn't great
 
8:04 PM
Okay, I made it through the first 3 levels by just adding floors to the idle sequence. Next level, I'm betting can be passed by just scripting the second elevator to do the same as the first, but in reverse?
 
@Iszi 2nd elevator???
 
@RoryAlsop Challenge 4 has 2 elevators
 
@Iszi on level two, adding floors to the idle sequence I couldn't get past it
always had 19 people
needed 20
 
Maybe I passed on a fluke. Just went back and failed at 18.
@Matthew There's a tutorial? Haven't come across anything I'd really call that.
 
Sometimes it is worth retrying if you're close
FLAG! But I missed it...
@Iszi Well, yeah... I ended up going to github.com/magwo/elevatorsaga/wiki/Solutions to find how to do various bits
 
8:11 PM
@Matthew it was an idiotic flag - someone decided this was offensive: security.stackexchange.com/q/119214/485
 
@RoryAlsop The question?
 
7
A: Isn't it too much having 5 times a week soccer trainings?

Rory AlsopMany children who focus on a particular sport may do this many training sessions a week, or more. When I was competing for my county in swimming I used to train up to 8 or 10 times a week, and my kids train more than 5 times a week in gymnastics and swimming. They still score very highly academic...

 
@RoryAlsop @Matthew What's the close-paren in }); for, in the default implementation? I'm having a hard time finding its pair.
 
@Iszi heh @Iszi is hooked
 
Seriously, I'm worried I'm gonna break something if I remove it, or forget to include one later on for something else.
Oh, wait. There it is.
 
The whole damn thing is the parameter set for elevator.on
 
Are you talking about the elevator.on( one?
Yes, it's doing the weird Javascript functional programming thing
 
@RоryMcCune well you know, drugs, sex, dubstep
@Iszi you upset @Ohnana?
is that really appropriate?
 
@kalina nah everything is fine
i cannot words good today because my brain is approaching mush
 
are you sure?
you know what's good for mush?
 
8:20 PM
yea we used our big kid words and everything
 
excessive quantities of the green stuff
 
@kalina unfortunately i do not have any to hand
and i must be productive
 
by the time you're finished with that nothing will matter
 
so instead i will settle down for some minecraft
when i get home
 
pff minecraft
 
8:21 PM
@RоryMcCune - I see you and I sort of said the same thing - sorry I hadn't seen your comment until I refreshed the page :-)
 
@kalina Theirs not to reason why, theirs but to do and die.
 
@Ohnana well virtual hugs and all that
 
tbh i might buy another bottle of tylenol
 
tylenol makes me think of epic rap battles of history
because I'm not American and I avoid standard pharmaceuticals
 
@kalina Tylenol is bad for you anyway
 
8:24 PM
haha yea cuz weed is way better than tylenol
 
@Ohnana Actually it is
If you take tylenol every day it will murder your liver
 
@DavidFreitag well no shit
 
I just broke my mouse
 
The most weed will do is make you hungry
 
if you took penicillin every day you'd be fucked
 
8:25 PM
are you serious, cheap nasty plastic -.-
 
if you smoked a bowl every day you'd probably morph into a blob
 
@Ohnana is that so
because I'm at... enough years and counting
 
Then I know a few amorphous blobs
 
well, eventually you'd build a tolerance
 
@Ohnana yes that happens
 
8:26 PM
that much food and libations will killyour motivation
 
1 min ago, by Ohnana
@DavidFreitag well no shit
 
who said anything about food
 
David did
;-P
right - need libations now (I miss it from the room topics...)
 
@DavidFreitag celery.
 
@kalina whut
 
8:29 PM
smoke huge cone
ooh I'm a bit hungry
do you:
 
Of celery? You can smoke that?
 
(a) glass of water or other fruit drink
(b) celery/carrots/etc because nom
 
@RoryAlsop well extra-Rory amplification is always good :)
 
@kalina Depends if I want salty, if that's the case it's sunchips, otherwise I'll snag an orange or an apple
or a bonnonno
 
and don't get me started on bananas because I should be radioactive by now
 
8:31 PM
eh?
 
sunchips.
 
No Bonnonno + peanutbooter sammiches?
 
sunchips
 
@DavidFreitag no so much stuff in that
banana nom
 
@kalina so that's the modern variant of "sex and drugs and rock and roll"
 
8:32 PM
@RоryMcCune Only in the sense that broadband internet is the modern variant of "dial up internet"
 
@RоryMcCune Walk and drugs and fruit?
 
an image would have been more appropriate
that song is crap
 
I have a tshirt very much like that one though
 
I didn't diss them! I just said it's a stretch, because while ostensibly and practically they serve the same role, the technical details make them different in some fundamental ways
 
@MickLH ...
 
I'm sorry lays in front of the kennel
 
that's what I thought.
 
I read my own sentence back and got excited that there were chips, I think I need to get up and eat
 
I'm not sure I'm going to allow that
 
8:40 PM
Please, I really want to eat
 
inb4 @Mick ends up dead due to starvation
 
I then went off to cat scratch fever :-)
 
I can't believe I broke my mouse
@DavidFreitag what is a good mouse
 
@kalina Wireless, corded, mmo, etc. ?
 
8:45 PM
mmo
 
@kalina If money isn't a concern there's the Naga
 
Big or small?
2
 
I'm not a fan of razor
 
Razer*
 
8:46 PM
well I have small hands so nothing huge
oh right yes razor is what I would use to castrate a pet
 
@kalina nice recovery
 
glares at @MickLH
 
wimpers
 
@MickLH she misspelled it on purpose :b
 
8:47 PM
wow really they put 20 buttons on mmo mice now
I don't like that it looks ugly
what about not mmo
but still corded
 
I found razer mice track really well but only on a good mousepad, otherwise it's fucking horrible trying to use on a shitty surface
 
I like my G400s, but it's rather big.
 
Too many buttons. I only have 4 fingers and a thumb on each hand
 
if I'm going to have my hand on it for hours at a time it has to look nice
 
8:48 PM
Euphemism
 
who knows
maybe it's just in general
 
Oh! Gotta get the adjustable weight version
You can totally hide a gram or two in there and forget about it and be pleasantly surprised when you unpack after a plane trip. They can't read your mind if you're not thinking about it!
 
I hope you've prepared your anus.
 
are qpad mice any good?
 
If you send me one I will see how it performs on counter-strike
That way you don't have to risk dealing with it yourself, just in case
 
8:53 PM
yet I still end up buying a mouse
 
@kalina People buy mice all the time, usually for their pets and such, but most people don't like dealing with mice.
 
that's basically the same as the other one
 
Of course it is, all these companies who do actual engineering see how successful razer got
They would be ridiculous not to put out the same thing, they are used to actual engineering so that kind of trivial crap practically takes more effort to explain than to design
 
8:58 PM
gosh the orange one is more expensive than the others
how rude
 
It's a special edition (it's also non-prime)
 
-.- it actually looks like it's cheaper for me to buy it from america than here
FINE it looks nice
 

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