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4:00 PM
I wouldn't be polite :P
 
lets see how many upvotes I get .... RUNS FROM MODS
 
@voretaq7 I don't see the relevance here...
 
@t1nt1n U'd get mine
 
your have to upvote it then...
 
4:02 PM
haha it already got changed to lmgtfy
or was that you ?
 
By me.
 
@TomOConnor Thanks for the edit... Was about to do it
I know it was wrong but he pissed me off.
 
I have a theory: If nobody says the word "snow" then the weather pattern will stay away.
It's like Bloody Mary (the ghost, not the drink).
 
SNOW
yeah, that's right. I said it.
 
@RebeccaChernoff where?
 
4:06 PM
@t1nt1n New York (11050) at the moment.
 
@RebeccaChernoff ow snap
 
@RebeccaChernoff ::looks out window:: Meh... once it's here we've already lost the war.
Now I'm just resigned to dodging spinning SUVs on the road until spring.
 
No snow here..
 
pfo
@voretaq7 i really love NY - most laid back (large) city i've ever been to
 
What services do you want to provide? – Raffael Luthiger 3 mins ago


I have a software in the server that I want the other clients to be able to access – yankitwizzy 1 min ago
hahaha
 
4:08 PM
was snowing here a bit earlier in 19464
 
@pfo New York City = The Honey Badger.
 
And if you're curious as to what my commute looks like, you only need to zoom out to the 200 mile scale!
 
pfo
@voretaq7 i'm sorry, i'm not really sure what that means :)
 
GRRR ARRRGHHH! You'd think that an x86_64 EFI system would PXE boot using the "EFI x86-64" architecture code, but NOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooo… @$%@#%
 
@t1nt1n Yet.
 
pfo
4:15 PM
@MikeyB which machine make?
 
@pfo really?
 
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Q: PXE architecture: "BC EFI"

MikeyBRFC 4578 defines various machine architectures for PXE as follows: Type Architecture Name ---- ----------------- 0 Intel x86PC 1 NEC/PC98 2 EFI Itanium 3 DEC Alpha 4 Arc x86 5 Intel Lean Client 6 EFI IA32 7 EFI BC 8 EFI Xscale 9 EFI x86-64 ...

 
::corrupts @pfo::
 
@pfo IBM. Wasted half a day trying to figure out why my dnsmasq PXE setup was just not working and dug deep into it this morning. Found out it's not sending the architecture I was expecting :( sad panda
 
pfo
yeah, but wth? :P
@voretaq7 i don't get it :( - I'm a city person and there are 3-4 animals i recognize and know :P
 
4:20 PM
@pfo 's not about the animal, it's about the voiceover
(Honey Badger don't care!)
 
pfo
@voretaq7 oh, ok :P now I get it
 
scarry
 
pfo
@MikeyB but most machines use EFI-BC
 
@pfo Why? What does it stand for? What does it mean?
 
4:23 PM
@LucasKauffman @PeterGrace @RebeccaChernoff would one of you delete that image above please ?
 
sry ^^
 
scarey and horrible too :(
 
I'm guessing that it means something like '32 or 64' but I'm not sure.
 
just changed my view that tortoise are friendly creatures
 
@LucasKauffman A lot of animals are, unless they see you as dinner.
 
4:24 PM
@LucasKauffman tortoise under water ?
 
pfo
@MikeyB it's uEFI's native PXE boot
 
@pfo As opposed to 'EFI IA32' or 'EFI x86-64'?
 
pfo
yeah
there's an RFC that defines that crap
i'm just looking into it
 
@pfo Yeah, I know. I quoted it :p
 
pfo
IA32 is EFI legacy boot emulation
 
4:26 PM
@Iain yea
 
@pfo legacy (bios-mode) boot shows up as 'Intel x86PC', not 'EFI IA32'
 
@MikeyB BC = Byte Code
 
@LucasKauffman probably a terapin or turtle
 
@ChrisS AHhhhhh!! It's processor-independent?
 
Yes
 
4:30 PM
@ChrisS how did the class go ?
 
I know Intel makes a compiler for it, but not sure if it's an open spec or where to find it...
@Iain Mediocre. I didn't have enough material to cover for the first class, so they got out an hour early.
I was pretty nervous starting the class but settled in after the first hour. It should be much better over the next few weeks as I get into the swing of things.
 
aah ah tortoise is on land a turtle is in the water, in my language it's the same word for both.
 
@ChrisS how long was it ?
 
@ChrisS sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/tianocore/index.php?title=EDK2 or gnu-efi seems to be able to build EFI apps. Not sure if it's compiling to EFI BC or EFI x64 though. I think I've been sending back EFI x64 binaries to machines that have been requesting EFI BC, but I guess they're just doing the Right Thing. Or I'm actually compiling to EBC.
 
It was supposed to be a 4 hour class. The previous teacher spent the first night only on chapter one (and intro to class stuff). I did all that and Chapter 2. And still ran out of material... Not sure WTF he was doing for that 4 hours.
@MikeyB I would think the machines would fall back to executing x64 code if it isn't EBC, but I'd have any actual experience in what you're doing.
... though it's interesting as hell and you'd better keep us updated with what you're figuring out.
 
4:34 PM
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Q: SQL based database is slow and periodically crashes

steveThis seemed to have happened after a server restart and a server restart seems to temporarily solve the problem. Everyone's database does not crash at the same time. Mine may be working while someone elses is down. When it is down a test run from SQL in ODBC fails. I am not very familiar with ...

 
4:50 PM
apparently symcbean didn't like my simplified answer to the guy trying to use mail@mydomain.com instead of just his username.
...no duh you can alias mail through whatever mechanism your MTA uses. Derp. But this guy was obviously new, not knowledgable, and I wouldn't want to answer his next questions on errors and login issues when he'll fail to distinguish the mail user from the mail alias he's cobbled together on his system.
Instead he downvoted mine called my simplified explanation to a comment nonsense and gives his own answer to encourage him to make it more complicated. peh
/kicks chair - sometimes just doesn't pay to get out of bed. Lousy mood.
 
So, I've got it working, but on the downside it looks like the code that constructs the PXE boot menu on IBM UEFI systems is absolute shite. Or I'm doing it wrong.
 
@BartSilverstrim Oy. Had a padawan like that once. Pure PITA.
 
Mean to say that symcbean downvoted me, not the OP.
I think symcbean was being more of a pedant than a jerk, but he is from over on the other side of the ocean, so it's hard to tell sometimes.
 
I really hate application-specific questions where the "sysadmins" treat the OS like a black box.
My anti-virus broke my VPN. Derp derp.
 
My position was to just steer him away from it as a bad idea, since he very well might run into problems with troubleshooting and logging and not make distinctions among the mail user, mail components, mail alias, etc. and it sounded like his reason for using mail@... might have been kind of silly to begin with. Just use your username and forget about it.
 
4:57 PM
@BartSilverstrim two countries separated by a common language ?
 
@iain: more like separated by culture.
Although you guys have no idea how to play football.
:-)
 
Really I think your wit and humor take some getting used to. You also seem to be a little less on the...what's the right term? You don't couch opinions in niceties as much, in general.
 
I'm putting my money on "IBM never tested that code path"
 
@BartSilverstrim gernerally we use our feet - what's wrong with that ?
 
4:59 PM
Americans like to beat around the bush and not say what we mean. Annoying as hell for people like me.
@iain: Who uses their feet in FOOTBALL?! We grab the ball and run and...something something. I don't like sports.
@rebeccachernoff: since you're in the room (I think)...where did SX get the careers 2.0 poster guy from?
Any idea?
I miss Are You Being Served.
I should look and see if it's on DVD or something.
 
@BartSilverstrim I'm not a great fan of soccer and I was useless at playing it.
 
@MikeyB What did you end up using to implement the boot menu? Did you get the RBCP/ExtDHCP server thing working?
 
@ChrisS PXE is a mandatory part of UEFI, that menu is done by the server. Though it's not working :/
 
@MikeyB Right, but what software is it pulling the PXE menu from?
 
@ChrisS dnsmasq
 
5:10 PM
Hrm, intersting... I'll have to check that out one of these days.
 
@ChrisS It's pretty simple to setup to do this one thing.
That's strange, I didn't know DHCPOFFERs were broadcasted :/
 
@MikeyB What IP would you send it to??
 
@ChrisS No, they're sent to the broadcast MAC. I would have expected dhcpd to send it to the MAC that sent out the DHCPREQUEST.
I'm sure there's some sort of obscure reason for doing so.
 
I know I should be cooking the healthy fish and pasta I have... but I really fancy take away pizza and beer
 
@RobMoir fish is disgusting, you made the right choice
 
5:22 PM
I'm sure I made the right choice, but I like the fish too!
I'll have that tomorrow
 
@RobMoir baked cod with chilli, ginger and scallions for tea here tomorrow
 
sounds nice to me. I like cod, haddock, plaice, stuff like that.
 
dabs are nice too
 
tomorrow is looking like haddock in a lemon sauce with either pasta or rice as its pizza tonight
yeah
 
Anyone willing to tell me whether I f'd something up with that answer?
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A: iptables / bridge / NAT setup

AdrianKWe do something quite similar here. 3 subnets behind a CentOS5 "router". Basically we just have iptables set to the follow 'nat' table rule: iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o -j SNAT --to-source In our case, device is eth1 and the IP is 10.0.0.2 to differentiate from the Class C IP4 subnets w...

 
5:28 PM
I'm trying to improve my candidacy blurb atm but I'm carp at self promotion ~ mine looks a bit thin compared to most of the others.
 
@Iain: Don't. If your self-promotion looks too good, we'll stop trusting you. :)
 
Iain, I think your hard work and well deserved good reputation over the year says far more than a well polished blurb ever could
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@SmallClanger I can assure you it wont
@SmallClanger I should get to try my new pedals & cleats tomorrow ~ should be interesting
 
@Iain I DON'T TRUST YOU!! I DON'T TRUST YOU!!
@Iain I excel at wordsmithing - want to subcontract me? =P
Your blurb is fine. Spend your time elsewhere.
 
@WesleyDavid Perhaps I should get you to write my nomination speech ~ you can write whole paragraphs where I just go for sentences
 
5:40 PM
@Iain Just change it to "Im Iain, what more do you need to know?" Or just flood it with lolcats
 
@TylerShads but that wouldn't be me then ;)
 
Politicians play to the likes of the people, whether it be their ownselves or not, I don't see the issue here :D
 
Oh, and BTW
 
@TylerShads Iian wouldn't be me
 
5:42 PM
@TylerShads Blues not allowed.
 
FU***** ME
@MDMarra What did I do =[[[
@Iain Blue powers away!
 
@TylerShads You became a mod on movies
Now you're not welcome
 
@TylerShads now my comments make no sense rather than the usual little sense
 
@MDMarra but, but, I LOVE YOU GUYS
kicks @WesleyDavid out of rage
 
dials PETA
 
5:45 PM
NO
I wonder if you get kicked enough times from a room if it bans you >.>
 
@TylerShads We'll probably find out shortly.
Is it just me or does this look exceptionally dirty?
I mean, I can't see how that picture is a good way to sell a career as a network admin.
 
@MDMarra In seriousness, at the very least there is now someone familiar with this community that is in this chat a lot to handle flags before we get another chatpocalpyse
 
Seems bizarre at best.
 
@WesleyDavid yeah, the "P" is way too curvy for that logo, almost NSFW, I might have to boot you for that
 
@TylerShads The downside: It's you.
 
5:50 PM
@WesleyDavid I DO NOT ABUSE POWER
 
@TylerShads That's what Bay Area cops say too.
 
@WesleyDavid kinky perhaps
 
pfo
@MikeyB is the drawing slow?
 
@pfo The menu appears over top of text already drawn and you can't select anything. OTOH, I think something's going wrong in my config or dnsmasq as no bootfile options (pxe opt 71) are being sent. I think this may be confusing the PXE client.
 
@MikeyB PXE? More like PITA, amirite?
 
5:55 PM
@MDMarra overall it's been a PITA, yeah. But once I get everything lined up and working, it should be good.
 
pfo
@MikeyB don't forget to write that down somewhere ;)
 
@pfo I'll see if I can get clearance to put up a blog post.
 
pfo
@MikeyB thanks, that would be great. I wonder that you got elilo to work since it's basically an abandoned project - it was started before IBM was selling uEFI machinery.
 
@pfo Looks like it hasn't been updated (releases that is) in a year but that's not too bad. And until efi-grub supports loading things over the network. I had no trouble getting elilo to work (other than the broken documentation re: the .msg file)
 
pfo
@MikeyB I've seen a nice UI and http library for EFI a few weeks ago and was thinking about trying to get something running on my own and I'll play around next weekend to see how that is going
 
6:00 PM
@pfo I may end up adding support for chainloading other EFI applications to ELILO, then I think I can do away with all this PXE nonsense.
 
pfo
@MikeyB i've never done anything with uEFI except for checking how hello-world application need to be structured and stuff like that
@MikeyB i was playing around the other day to get a working build environment, but on MacOS that seems to be really more of an adventure
 
what are EFI applications ?
ypou can build apps on your EFI ?
 
6:15 PM
@pfo Oh god, setting up the EDK2 was a freakin twisty maze of WTF
@LucasKauffman Yep.
 
6:31 PM
oy - the doing of real work.
 
@MikeyB What would be a useful app on top of EFI ?
 
@LucasKauffman A bootloader :)
 
wow... that picture...
It looks like she's been entombed in a cable nest...
@MikeyB @LucasKauffman One that supports Forth so you can play BootPong!
 
@MikeyB So instead of putting it on your hard drive as we do now, we just put it in the EFI ?
I dont get it :p
 
also @Iain I think you're the only candidate who doesn't have to self promote cough*RoyalStraightFlushOfBadges*cough
 
6:35 PM
@LucasKauffman EFI applications can come from a variety of sources; adapter cards (what used to be a "BIOS Option ROM" is now an EFI Application (EFI Driver, specifically) that gets loaded from the card), adapter card configuration utilities, network (DHCP), onboard flash, hard disks (usually bootloaders)
 
ah that's cool
 
EFI (technically *U*EFI) is effectively just a BIOS replacement with some trimmings -- The only real "useful app" on top of it is a boot loader.
One that supports Forth so you can play BootPong :P
 
@LucasKauffman Being able to load an EFI Application to configure say, your RAID card, and then exit back into the EFI Setup without rebooting is really sexy. And that EFI Application comes from the RAID card itself.
 
(I really miss having a Sun workstation on my desk. Can you tell?)
@MikeyB I haven't seen such a beast yet -- Which server maker is shipping that?
 
@voretaq7 Well IBM for sure, presumably Dell and HP boxen do it the same way. If you're still waiting until the 'Press Ctrl-C to configure this card' you're doing it wrong.
 
6:38 PM
@voretaq7 Or space invaders :p
 
@LucasKauffman There's a boot monitor space invaders?!? WHY HAS NOBODY SENT ME THIS???
 
ah what is actually the problem with PXE then ?
 
@MikeyB ...with the exception of my database server nothing has hardware RAID anyway :-x
 
I thought it was in grub
 
(why spend the money? geom_mirror and "boot of whatever you find that has a boot loader" works fine)
 
6:40 PM
@voretaq7 in grub type this : kernel invaders
then 'boot'
 
@LucasKauffman . . . It's not written in Forth, it doesn't count :P
(also: Seriously? SERIOUSLY??? Who thought that would be a good thing to include in a boot loader?!?... not stopping me from playing it mind you, but still)
 
@WesleyDavid I think it's a great marketing campaign. "If you become a Network Admin you will be surrounded by attractive women who are into light bondage."
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@ScottPack "If you are a woman and become a network admin you will be consumed by a cable monster."
 
Seriously, Novell Support?
"I can't access EFI boot variables after booting up SLES11 via EFI over the network."
"Here's how to configure network booting with EFI. On a Dell."
"YOU'RE SOLVING THE WRONG PROBLEM!" *facepalm*
 
It is dangerous to go into the datacenter alone. Take one of these ::offers roll of velcro tape::
 
6:48 PM
@voretaq7 That's way less hot.
 
@voretaq7 Rather: "If you are a woman and become a network admin you will be surrounded by men who wished you were attractive and into light bondage."
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And yes, there are two insults in that sentence.
 
@ScottPack well she doesn't appear happy...
 
@voretaq7 What does that matter?
 
@WesleyDavid hey! I know plenty of attractive female network admins.
 
@WesleyDavid Take that kind of talk to sex.se!
 
6:50 PM
(well, I know 2, but they're both attractive so as far as my sample set is concerned 100% of female admins are attractive!)
 
@MikeyB Is that why my xSeries boxen take 5 minutes to boot their RAID controller? =)
 
@AdrianK Possibly. Configure UEFI boot, you don't even need to load all the BIOS shims.
 
@AdrianK I think that's an IBM thing in general. Even the old BIOS boxen did that for me.
 
@voretaq7 Makes my users crazy. Takes 7 seconds to shutdown services and 12 to start Ubuntu on that machine, but most of the TTR is the BIOS controller moseying through its boot process.
 
My database server takes just under a minute to restart.
Most of that is the POST checking all 48GB of RAM though...
 
6:54 PM
@voretaq7 Oh god… when you're trying to isolate a weird memory fault on a 1TB machine and each memory check takes ~10m… not fun.
 
yeah I'm one of those guys that doesn't turn on "Quick Boot"
 
@voretaq7 We have 28G on our primary LTSP server, that part is quick on my x3650. It's the interminable minutes waiting for the RAID.
 
1TB of RAM?
I want this machine
 
@voretaq7 Can you fix that typo. It's triggering my PTSD.
 
GAH!
 
6:55 PM
@AdrianK Seriously - the RAID controller really takes that long? Just for the controller? Gah.
 
::FIXES IN A DAMN HURRY::
I do not want to be associated with that demon's spawn!
actually 48GB is more RAM than we need -- Once I can finally drop the ekg_segment table the entire DB will fit in RAM.
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Clothing and Fashion

Proposed Q&A site for people who are enthusiastic about fashion, and about clothing, tailoring, cobbling, hatmaking, haberdashery and bespoke or couture clothing items.

Currently in definition.

prod prodprodprod
 
@voretaq7 Yeah. We used to run our internal web app on an old dual-core with 2.5GB of RAM. It was painful. Everyone was amazed at how fast it ran with 24GB. RAM for Read caching FTW.
 
(I wouldn't say I'm "enthusiastic" about fashion, but I'd like to be able to sanity check and make sure I'm not a total fashion disaster when I walk out the door :P)
 
32GB (1x32GB, 4Rx4, 1.35V) PC3L-8500 CL7 ECC DDR3 1066MHz LP RDIMM ← expensive.
But having up to… 6TB on a single Intel system image is nice.
 
Of course, it took a year for the Devs to get that box ready. It's the only one I'm not allowed to admin.
 
6:58 PM
@AdrianK why?
 
@voretaq7 They don't want to have to wait for me and my predecessor was a) incredibly lazy and b) an unmitigated asshole. I'm considered more of a mitigated PITA, as near as I can tell.
 
@AdrianK I'm considered the infrastructure nazi, but I think of myself as more of a benevolent dictator
 
@voretaq7 Thats what hitler said
 
@LucasKauffman I have better hair.
 
@voretaq7 but do you have a mustache ?
 
7:06 PM
I think we ought to have an SE site about coffee. Proper milk temperatures for lattes, how to pour the milk properly, correct pastry pairing with various drinks, proper care of espresso equipment and french presses.
 
@LucasKauffman no. If I grow a goatee I keep my upper lip clean too.
@AdrianK ZOMG FUCKING CLEAN YOUR BREWING EQUIPMENT YOU FECKLESS STARBUCKIAN MORONS!
 
@voretaq7 All you need's a soul patch. You could move to Seattle and spend your evenings in the hundreds of faux-dive hipster bars.
 
Hey everyone. I need to renew our Wildcard SSL cert. We're currently with RapidSSL (GeoTruet). If anyone has any recommendations for other providers I'd be glad to hear it before I renew. Thanks!
 
@voretaq7 Heh. I'm considering buying a used ultrasonic cleaning tub for my french presses and espresso machine parts.
 
@AdrianK yeah no - I would look ridiculous with a soul patch.
@Josh "The cheapest one" :)
 
7:08 PM
@Josh Does your business involve CC ?
 
(all SSL issuers suck)
 
pfo
@voretaq7 If you miss a Sun due to OpenFirmware you will be disappointed by uEFI
 
@voretaq7 Well that would be GoDaddy, I refuse to buy from them. RapidSSL seems to be next cheapest :-)
 
If so I will gladly provide a wildcard cert for free :3
 
LOL @LucasKauffman
 
7:09 PM
@pfo I'm already disappointed by uEFI. I miss OpenFirmware on the Power macs.
 
Because every OS sucks.
 
you can get a pretty good OpenBoot workalike for uEFI tho.
that list could use some updating...
 
pfo
@voretaq7 I have a set of 4 IBM x3950M2 w 96 cores of Xeon 74XXs and 1T RAM running for a client
 
@pfo ::whine and paw at hardware:: want!
i have zero practical application for it. I don't care.
 
@voretaq7 Yeah. I think I still had a box of Netware4.1 hanging around until this summer's most recent cleanout.
 
7:13 PM
@AdrianK There's also the Canonical list of operating systems that suck:
* Ubuntu
 
I DO still have a copy of Access97 Upgrade version still sitting on my top shelf right this moment.
 
@Josh What kind of business are we talking about?
 
This will secure the admin access to our application (SaaS application)
 
@Josh ...only internal users?
 
No, our customers.
Many of our customers purchase their own certs anyway. The ones who don't can use our shared wildcard cert
 
7:15 PM
aw, I was all set to say "Fuck the system - roll your own CA!"
 
@voretaq7 Thats how I almost bought a SPARC once with 32 cores and 32 GB of RAM, was like 500 euro at the time. It was huge though and consumed shitloads of power :p
 
@voretaq7 I wish!
But my customers are far too unsavvy. I'd get WAY too many complaints of SSL cert warnings
 
@LucasKauffman SPARC: SPAce heateR / Computer
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@TylerShads You're a blue. Can you tell me whether it would be a violation of the .SE terms of service to hold a raffle to select a person to go beat Shuttleworth with a shovel?
 
@AdrianK wait, what did I miss?
 
7:19 PM
@AdrianK Sounds like a question for AskUbuntu!
 
@voretaq7 Good point.
@TylerShads I want to hold a raffle to select someone who's local to the UK to go beat Mark Shuttleworth with a shovel. One with a long narrow blade that is flat at the mouth and round along its lengthwise axis.
 
@TylerShads I'm sure Ububtu did something to offend @AdrianK. It's like the Joe Biden of operating systems: it can't go 5 minutes without offending someone.
 
@AdrianK That's a question for Meta.SO :D
NOW GO CANNIBALIZE YOURSELF
 
Sweet. Thanks.
 
@TylerShads Damn, you're a cruel bastard!
 
7:21 PM
@voretaq7 /bow
 
forget the wolves and just throw him face-first into a pit of broken glass and salt why dontchya!
 
@TylerShads I'm sure I'd taste horrid. I'm a caffeine- and quesadilla-based lifeform.
 
@AdrianK Coffee and quesadillas? That sounds pretty fantastic.
 
what did ubuntu do ?
 
7:25 PM
5 by 5. sorry to have annoyed.
 
pfo
oh man, GF and a friend of hers are here to watch "The Voice". NEED TO GET OUT OF MY OWN FLAT. FFS.
 
@AdrianK Last post was meant to be a joke against programmers eating only caffeine and quesadilla, not me being annoyed :D
@pfo OTOH, 3some potential!
 
pfo
@TylerShads true! ;) but I'm probably not in the mood after hearing so much crappy pop music - makes my ears and penis get cancer.
 
@pfo Skin-Coloured ear plugs!
 
pfo
heh
gonna get some of those!
 
7:29 PM
For all you puppeteers out there.
 
@ScottPack what does that have to do with sticking your hand up something's ass that's made of cloth?
 
@TylerShads Well, first, you use the broom not your hand...
 
@ScottPack there's too many puppeteers on SF and SO now. I subscribe to and now every time there's a solid answer before I get a chance to jump in and write one. :)
(at least for the easy, well-written, clear questions)
 
Speaking of...riddle me this.
 
pfo
7:36 PM
@freiheit shouldn't all puppet questions be on SF instead of SO?
 
Last night I started writing up an answer, saved a first draft, then while fleshing it out I realized that I had misread the question, so my answer was entirely irrelevant. So I deleted it.
And about 12 hours later someone upvoted it.
 
@pfo Not necessarily. I think most puppet questions would fare better on SF, but there's some that are really about the programming and are on-topic on SO and there's no need to migrate those.
 
pfo
@ScottPack people will upvote anything that looks even remotely sane ...
 
@ScottPack is it still deleted ?
 
@Iain Yes
 
7:38 PM
I didn't think you could upvote deleted stuff
link ?
 
@pfo they really should get migrated here, but I won't begrudge SF their option to keep 'em
after all we keep some DB questions here that could just as easily go to DBA
 
@Iain Nevermind, just tried on a deleted movie post
 
If I'd had questions about writing custom facts or custom functions, I'd ask it on SO, since it's really a ruby in a special library environment thing and not a managing servers thing
 
@freiheit lawl <3
 
7:40 PM
Confidence inspiring.
No wait, not that - the other thing... "Typical Linux." and a deep, saddened sigh
it is amusing though - I'm just not comfortable with my operating system being "dazed and confused" (and if it is it shouldn't admit it!)
 
@freiheit And similarly, a lot of PowerShell is much more programming than Systems, even though it's used (almost)? exclusively by SysAdmins.
 
@TylerShads Surprisingly, it's a different issue in the installer that's our big problem, it goes right past that.
 
 
I personally don't consider the amount of Ruby you have to know to deal with Puppet to be "programming"
 
@voretaq7 I'm also not comfortable with my OS giving me a Beavis and Butthead laugh
 
7:43 PM
@freiheit I can live with that as long as it doesn't emit a blood-curdling scream from the PC speaker.
 
@Iain Interesting. Earlier today it was showing up as being upboated at about 1300Z, and I deleted it at about 0200Z
 
(the things you do to the night shift ops guy when you're bored)
 
@voretaq7 hmm, I sense some crude humor in this.
 
@TylerShads It's actually a trick we played on my first boss back when I was a consultant. He was in the datacenter for something and we played a blood-curdling scream through one of the Sun servers in the rack behind him.
Guy jumped like 10 feet
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A: Migrating an SSL Certificate from one host to another during site migration

voretaq7If I understand your question correctly your situation is that the old hosting provider will not give you the SSL certificate and private key you are currently using? That seems VERY shady to me. Having worked at an ISP/MSP that did hosting and SSL Certificate registration I can see no legitimat...

 
@voretaq7 hilarious
 
7:52 PM
^^ Am I paranoid, or could his hosting provider really be out to get him?
 
It never ceases to amaze me how people choose to ignore function return values when trying to debug things :(
 
(Honestly when I would give people their keys at the ISP I would advise them to call Verisign and have the cert revoked/reissued with a new key anyway because even though they could trust us best practices say they shouldn't)
wait... when stuff exits it tells me what happened?
MADNESS!
 
Spent the afternoon ignoring work and fucking around with Trello
Seems legit
 
@MDMarra that's research
 
@Iain Agreed
 
7:55 PM
everything is research.
WTF number 2 (We're all gonna DIE!): nature.com/news/…
 

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