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12:06 AM
Who is the puppet master?
 
not sure , but i'm finding i really really wish i could loop in a manifest file
 
do..until kind of things?
 
foreach $user in $user_array {blah} type things
 
You can kinda do that in an inline template, if you just need the results to be a string.
 
12:35 AM
yea, i'll poke at it more tomorrow
 
HI @WESLEYDAVID
 
HELLO @REBECCACHERNOFF MY FAVORITE BLUE NAME!!!
 
12:57 AM
That's rather handy. Ubuntu 11.10 seems to be a little more virtualization aware than the previous iteration.
 
1:11 AM
 
Some of those meme photos ought to have a disclaimer. I about choked on my dinner.
 
@AdrianK I think the kernel's been including more virtualization modules in the upstream these days
 
I'm actually rather pleased with how well 11.10 Server is installing with the 'minimal virtual machine' mode. Minimal whining and cruising right along with no odd behaviors.
Hmm. Somebody ought to do a .Deb virtual package with a dependency list that installs all the really useful system tools. Or perhaps I should roll one and shove it down the throats of all the Devs down the hall.
 
One man's essential tool is another man's bloat
 
@AdrianK: or sudo installessentialshit.sh
;p
 
1:26 AM
Or even better puppet agent --test
 
or a pkgsel preseed
 
@JourneymanGeek InstallAllTheThings.deb
 
@AdrianK: doing it as a script might be more maintainable, InstallAllTheTHings.deb might be fixed to specific versions, as opposed to the latest available ones
 
If I discover even one more system util that the Devs decided wasn't necessary in production, I'm going to walk down the hall and scream at them. Well, except for the new ones. They didn't create this fiasco.
 
granted, i've never built a dev
no no
yell at them too
they must learn fear ;p
 
1:27 AM
@JourneymanGeek That's ok. The Devs never run package updates anyway.
I mean NEVER.
 
...
because its not necessary?
 
@JourneymanGeek They can specify just a package name with no version, or else a >= version number
 
why do you let them touch the servers again?
 
They have the director convinced that package updates break things, so we shouldn't ever run updates because things are working fine now.
 
headesks
 
1:28 AM
@AdrianK Sign them up for CVE alerts.
 
cattle prods are too good for these people
If a package update breaks things, and it dosen't do so for everyone, its not the package at fault ;p
 
@Zoredache I don't have a choice. The boss bought them the hardware and approved the project before I arrived, and my predecessor was a schmuck so lazy that he got fired for having fixed a mere 36 tickets in 8 months.
Someday, I will bend them to my will.....
 
s/bend/break/. Don't leave their will intact. They need to worship you as sysadmin.
 
@Zoredache Nah. They're pleasant young ladies, but nobody over there has any enterprise experience in the past 10 years except for a little L1/2 help desk stuff.
That's a new one. Ubuntu minimal install does not include the 'iptables' command.
My personal hypothesis is so that no one figures out that their default "security" policy is ACCEPT-ACCEPT-ACCEPT.
 
1:48 AM
@AdrianK Young ladies? Whatwhatwhere?
 
The Devs down the hall, several of whom are delightful young ladies in their 20s and early 30s.
 
combs hair
 
Thankfully we've staffed up with some folks with business experience. We tend to get rather idealistic folks that are quite enthusiastic about things but lack a certain pragmatism.
@RebeccaChernoff Would it be against the terms of service if I held a raffle to determine who'd be elected to go beat Mark Shuttleworth with a shovel?
 
There are terms for service to @RebeccaChernoff? What do you get for a pledge of fealty?
 
So, the question now is - is she like Beetlejuice and only takes three summonings to appear, or is she like Candy Man and needs five? (@RebeccaChernoff)
waits
@AdrianK Working for non profits is fun because of the passion that is attracted to it, but for the surplus of heart, there's typically a dearth of brains.
 
1:59 AM
@WesleyDavid Amen to that.
 
Virtual machine, (屮゚Д゚)屮 Y U NO LET ME CONN... oh that's because I turned you off.
 
@WesleyDavid vmware? vsphere?
 
@AdrianK Oh, just a VMware player instance. Kickin' it small scale.
My personal Windows instance that I keep around for Office, Quickbooks and Quicken.
 
People who use VMware Player as a virtualization environment are adorable.
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@WesleyDavid Cool. Trying to get a KVM setup off the ground here. Our main file server also hosts 6 other services that I have to migrate off before I can replace the 6yo SCSI RAID array.
 
2:03 AM
@ScottPack Yes dear.
 
Ubuntu upgraded CUPS from 1.4.4 to 1.5.0 in between releases. Oy. Hope that works out well.
 
@AdrianK What's the worst that could happen?
 
@ScottPack My Executive Director wouldn't be able to print. That would be quite bad enough.
I think my InstallAllTheThings package doesn't really fit the Ubuntu/Debian mold though. It need more useless dashes, underscores, and tildes to fit in with the rest of them.
Should probably be Install-All_The_Things-~_0.1~44_2-3.deb
 
sudo apt-get *
That works, right?
 
Not unless you tell apt-get what to do.
Dumbass.
 
2:13 AM
@ScottPack Obviously you don't know Debian.
I want apt-get to do everything with everything soo...
sudo apt-get * *
Better?
 
@WesleyDavid He's talking about Ubuntu. I'm not sure that qualifies as debian :)
That's like calling Gentoo BSD because Portage is based on Ports
 
@ScottPack It's like Debian's bratty little brother that his middle aged parents didn't expect so since they're so fed up with kids they let him do whatever he wants since they're now in their sixties with a teenager.
@ScottPack Sooo, Gentoo... isn't BSD?
I'm so confused.
 
Gnite folks. Off to have dinner with the ladyfriend.
 
@AdrianK Laters.
 
@AdrianK Have a nice time with your special lady!
@WesleyDavid I dated that girl in college. Big ole, "Well that's not supposed to happen anymore...."
 
2:18 AM
@ScottPack I read that in a Vincent Price voice and tacked on a cackle for good measure.
 
@WesleyDavid You're welcome.
 
@ScottPack Go open up Twitter.
 
ok
/me waits
 
@ScottPack ಠ_ಠ
 
sudo apt-get install ALL-THE-NON-FREE-THINGS - What I do when I use a Debian box for the first time.
I don't get it - you installing MP3 codecs on your servers or what?
 
2:26 AM
@ShaneMadden I was thinking of non-servers, but hey... Flash on a server sounds legit too.
 
Oh, that's why you don't like debian - you're using it on desktops.
 
@WesleyDavid You're a bad bad person
 
@ShaneMadden My first attempt at going 100% Linux and ditching Windows was Debian 4.
I don't dislike it - it's fine. I just wasn't at the place to deal with it then. Now I used Fedora - although Voretaq is pushing me into the BSDs.
 
@WesleyDavid My condolences.
 
@ShaneMadden Tell ya' - it was a learning experience for me.
 
2:32 AM
Pfft, I show up when I feel like it. Not when summoned! (:
 
@RebeccaChernoff Cuz you're gangstah like that.
 
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Q: How many moderators do we need?

Shane MaddenThe moderator election states that there are two positions open. With the recent loss of Chopper3, this means that this is a net gain of 1. There's some discussion with regard to the specific count for this election; maybe some more general discussion is needed on how many moderators are needed...

@RebeccaChernoff nudge nudge
 
@RebeccaChernoff you lurk behind racks and jump out when you hear @WesleyDavid coming.
 
Don't reveal my secrets. ):
 
I'd say you're mean, but...well... we kinda like seeing him have kitty freak-outs
 
2:41 AM
I am not mean!
 
bah, cant upload that .gif
 
@RebeccaChernoff Which of these sons of bitches said you were mean?
 
have a youtube.
wait wait wait - this one is better!
it even looks a little like @WesleyDavid's avatar
 
Horrible, isn't it @ScottPack?
 
@ScottPack I didn't say she was mean. I said I WOULD say it if we didn't like watching @WesleyDavid have kitty freak-outs :-)
 
2:46 AM
@RebeccaChernoff Unconscionable.
@voretaq7 ಠ_ಠ
 
Like I would say it's mean to put peanut butter on my mom's dog's nose, if she didn't sit there and beg for it every time you take out a jar of peanut butter.
 
So now you're comparing her to your mom's dog?!?
 
@ScottPack no, I'm comparing @WesleyDavid to my mom's dog. @RebeccaChernoff would be me in this little parable
(a comparison to the dog might actually be less offensive, all things considered q-:)
 
Do you need a new shovel? That one appears to be wearing out.
 
ooh... that's a.. strange... strange smiley.
@ScottPack no thanks I'm good, we've got the backhoe we took away from the construction company after they cut through the fiber uplinks :)
 
2:49 AM
There was a little tiny backhoe in my tree lawn this morning.
They were replacing my gas service line.
 
@ScottPack ...and somehow dug up a major fiber trunk?
 
On my way home I was feeling a little antsy what with the weather turning.
 
Rule 34 of backhoes: Wherever you dig there will be a fiber trunk. I think they shift their positions to make sure they're under the bucket.
 
We had a dusting of snow here early this morning. First we've had all winter.
 
@RebeccaChernoff gaaah! Don't say the word! ::clutches ears::
 
2:51 AM
@voretaq7 I've got 3 inches of snow from yesterday you can have.
 
We've got 2-3" today so far, expecting double to quadruple.
 
@RebeccaChernoff We have an inch called for, which should go nicely on top of the half-inch of rain we've gotten since yesterday.
 
Wait, @RebeccaChernoff is in here and @WesleyDavid isn't crying? Something happened to him!
 
AHHHH! She said snow again! Oh no - now I said it! ahhhh!
 
2:52 AM
@voretaq7 STOP SAYING SNOW
 
SNOW SNOW SNOW SNOW SNOW SNOW SNOW SNOW
 
@RebeccaChernoff NOOOO THATS A LOT OF SNOW
 
@TylerShads it's too late - it's been said 3 times. Now it's going to come and make all the SUVs slide off the highway and crash into trees!
 
What on earth?
 
2:53 AM
@voretaq7 Oh, well thats ok then
 
WTF @ that flag from japanese
 
Does the Japanese room need the definitions of "spam" and "offensive"?
 
that's a perfectly valid meta question. The flagger should be flogged.
 
in Japanese Language and Usage, 3 hours ago, by Aarthi
Hey Japanese! This is actually a reasonably important question that y'all should chime in on. :D
 
Normally, I ignore flags since I can't understand the context of the site culture.
In this case? Fuck em. That shit's invalid.
 
2:55 AM
@voretaq7 i missed it =[
 
It took me 0.25 seconds to look at the chat transcript and say "flagger is a moron"
 
5 total messages in that room today. Not sure if that can support a culture.
They seem to average 2 messages per day
 
@ShaneMadden that's.... quaint.
 
why does SWTOR launcher need elevation the basterds
 
@TylerShads in order to properly use the force the code must run in ring 0.
Alternate answer: Because @UXYoda said so.
 
2:57 AM
I'm level 20 and still on the first chapter, long story is long
 
@TylerShads Game worth at least what you paid for it is rare :)
 
@voretaq7 dont think im going to continue it though, I like it but meh, i still love WoW's story better but it's not good enough to play. SWTOR is definitely going to give them a kick in the arse.
 
I reinstalled BioShock. I'm playing it through for the second time, slowly
It's much nicer when you take the time to really enjoy all the story elements they put in. It's like Myst/Riven, but with weapons
 
@voretaq7 never played it, thanks to zelda, i have a general distaste for games based on water worlds
 
(also if you've never played Riven it's DIRT CHEAP now)
@TylerShads they're not based on water worlds...
 
3:03 AM
Bioshock is
 
oh yeah BioShock is
I honestly don't notice that aspect quite so much. It's more like you're on a giant submarine.
It's still earth, you're just underwater.
 
It's also never really appealed to me as something I'd play though. Appreciate the game and its quality, just not for me.
 
I like it because it's kind of like Ayn Rand made a video game :)
 
@voretaq7 I'm calling PETA.
 
People for the Eating of Tasty Animals
 
3:10 AM
user image
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3:25 AM
There's plenty of room for all God's animals. Right next to the mashed potatoes.
 
3:57 AM
Is there a canonical sizing answer?
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Q: Good sites for discussing specific hosting provider/server specification scenarios

wombleQuestions about specific hosting providers, server specs, and the suchlike are frowned upon on Server Fault, usually being closed as "too localized", or "off topic", because Server Fault isn't a good site for working out what resources you need to run a given website (because it usually requires ...

@MarkHenderson I came close to flagging this, then I saw who posted it. "Don't bite that hand that approves your flags" I guess? =)
1
Q: Remote Assistance for mobile users

Mark HendersonOne of our clients has about 100 users in the field with Windows Mobile 6.5 devices, with another 600 coming online soon that will be running a mix of Windows Mobile 6.5 and Android phones (I'm not sure which version of android, they're rolling them out at the end of the month). We're having a l...

But seriously, shame on you. =P
 
4:23 AM
You can flag my stuff
Someone else once flagged my stuff and they were right
I don't really care anyway, the short answer is that what i wanted doesn't exist
 
@MarkHenderson cackles
 
@WesleyDavid 300 of them? God, I dealt with one WinMobile5 and one 6 device and almost blasted them against a wall in frustration. The most god-awful POS devices...
Oops, I thought that reply was to @MarkHenderson
 
Haha that's ok
Yes, 300 of them now. Some shitty Samsung thing
And IE Mobile is just... god
Words cannot explain the hate
They came to our company and asked us for our opinion, and I told my boss "No. Just no. THey are shit, hopeless devices that should be sent to the 9th circle of hell to live with Adolf Hitler and Justin Beiber" but he gave them the green light to do it anyway
Because our software does work with the phones
@WesleyDavid - I feel bad about closing all these question that actually have good answers
I mean, this isn't really that off topic, is it?
8
Q: Centralized Windows/Mac Patch Management that is easy to use

BiggsTRCI'm looking for advice on what patch management solutions you would recommend based upon your experience. I'm also looking for which ones you would not recommend based upon your experience. We have a mixed network of Windows and Mac clients. Our central servers are all Windows servers, althoug...

How would you ask it?
As it's written its quite subjective, but I think it can be rescued
 
@MarkHenderson Yeah, they're not bad questions, but they're bad for ServerFault - I learned from many of them and probably upvoted many of them before I was clear on SF's intent.
I saw a common theme with those kinds of questions. It shouldn't have been "What products can I use to do X" but rather simply, "How can I do X"
And then let people answer with their own ways of doing X, which would include product recommendations.
 
Yeah you're right
They should be phrased differently
 
4:38 AM
However, he's already done so much research that he now has specific, product related questions and comparisons. So I think he kind of pushed himself outside of the scope of SF.
I think SF is good for two ends of the spectrum. Extremely broad "How do I manage patching for heterogeneous networks" and then extremely scoped "My Dell KACE appliance is throwing this error: "
 
5
Q: iPad Management

user55893Does anyone have recommendations on managing multiple iPods / iPads? I am not talking about just a few for a family but rather thousands of them for student use in education. They seem to be a bit of an administrative and security nightmare.

^^ I'm going to let this one stay
 
But the in between questions, the one where a person has done a lot of research and now needs soft answers based on experience and subjectivity, aren't so good.
 
BUt don't worry I shan't decline ;)
 
So in the "Centralized Windows/Mac Patch Mgmt" question, he kills it badly with these questions: "My question is this: What are your thoughts on these to products? Are there better products out there? "
So those have to go.
"Are there issues that I'm not considering?" is okay
I guess.
@MarkHenderson Yeah, that's borderline I think. I debated on that one... =|
@MarkHenderson You are a gentleman and a scholar.
 
Im only posting nice comments on questions < 12 months old
But I have to keep remembering its 2012 now
Not 2011
Awwww one of @squillman's questions has been closed
You asked what we should do with: serverfault.com/questions/105317/…
The answer is: Kill it
 
4:49 AM
@MarkHenderson Yay killing!
So am I helping you catch up to Greg's flag stats?
 
Yep I'm now only 60 behind instead of 130 :p
What is it with people wanting to tunnel IPv4 IP addresses??
 
@MarkHenderson What time of day do most flags roll in?
 
-2
Q: Multiple ips via vpn possible?

macintosh264I am in a home where I have one public IP address. Instead of purchasing ips from my isp, is there a service where I can get ip addresses via vpn. I assume it would work in the same fashion as it would if I had cables run. Is this possible.

That's another one
@WesleyDavid Hmm. No idea to be honest
Whenever you're online most likely
 
@MarkHenderson =D
 
4:54 AM
Pretty colors.
 
You and Ward are the only candidates that overlap with my time from 00-07 UTC
So as you can see I'm kinda all on my own :P
 
@MarkHenderson Very surprised. I thought more people in North America would be evening folks.
 
Me too
There's such a huge cluster from 07-16 in the candidates
I'm surprised you're not avaliable for more hours. I take it you can't mod at work?
 
@WesleyDavid I have the impression that Zoredache has the self-discipline to get up early and knock off on time.
Other than that, there aren't a lot of regulars on the west coast, or close to it.
 
@MarkHenderson Currently, I could, since I work mostly from home on remote clients and projects. However, I'm transitioning away from that to try and get more exicitng work at a hosted services / datacenter environment.
So I'm expecting that I shall soon not be able to spend much time on it at work save maybe for lunch.
 
4:57 AM
Ahh, fair enough
 
Right now, I try to avoid SF during work hours as it is because I can get sucked in and delay work.
 
Haha
I know that feeling
 
Mornings I kinda tool around on SF.
 
4
Q: Block a URL at browser level

FarseekerDoes anyone have a solution (that doesn't involve editing the hosts file) to block a particular URL from FireFox? Basic back story is that I'm trying to discipline myself. I'm spending FAR too much time over at Server Fault that I want to genuinely block the site from my work PC so that every ti...

 
So I know I can pitch in in the evenings since that's what I'll be doing work-from-home projects even if I get a "real job"
 
4:59 AM
Anyway Im gunna head off
Cya
 
5:19 AM
@MarkHenderson Later
 
I'm only 5000 votes behind the SE-site-wide top voter. 5 or 6 more months should do it...
stackoverflow.com/users?tab=voters&filter=all
Just two or three weeks away from the #3 spot.
 
6:07 AM
Night lovelies.
 
 
2 hours later…
7:52 AM
G'day
 
8:08 AM
Morning Geeks.
This is what IT's about. Getting called into work at 3am by an automated alert about a SAN controller failure and when people get in they dont even notice....... :(
 
Dan
Morning girls
 
Morning ladies :)
 
Dan
:D
 
You think the SE-network would be willing to participate in the Jan 18-blackout?
 
Dan
@t1nt1n Indeed. Sadly, our best work is that that goes complete unnoticed
@BartDeVos What's that, Bart?
 
8:18 AM
Hackernews, Reddit and now the Cheezeburger sites will go dark on Jan 18 in protest of SOPA/PIPA
Wikipedia is thinking about it
No word from Facebook/google tho
 
@Dan Someone just asked me why im so chirpy... My reply "Well I have done enough hours today to go home in about 30 mins...."
 
Dan
@t1nt1n Are you going to?
@BartDeVos They won't do it - too much money!
 
@Dan I work in IT, as do you. You will apprecite the next statment... I have all intention of going at 10am..... Goign to bed. But im sure jsut as I lock my workstation and close my office door some end user will go "But can you just look at this for me please? The same situation will following untill all users have left the building and I am left to lock up again"
 
Dan
@t1nt1n Good luck!
 
This is such a cool error page our.umbraco.org/Hiccup.aspx
 
Dan
8:26 AM
http://serverfault.com/questions/349566/windows-server-2008-ask-to-change-admin-password-and-scheduled-tasks-stop-workin

Is it me or is Sams answer exactly the same as mine :D
 
its slightly differnt. ill vote for yours :P
has that made you feel better?
 
Dan
Absolutely!
 
8:50 AM
@BartDeVos probably not gonna happen.
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Q: Any chance of Stack Exchange blacking out Jan 18, along with Reddit, in opposition of SOPA/PIPA?

AgentConundrumReddit has announced that they will be blacking out their site on January 18 in opposition of the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) and the Preventing Real Online Threats to Economic Creativity and Theft of Intellectual Property Act of 2011 (a.k.a. PROTECT-IP, PIPA). There has been some discussion o...

Although Joel's We don't own Stack Exchange... we're just taking care of it on your behalf. line is obvious poop because they run stackexchange and utterly say yes/no. Even if a feature request has +100 votes there's still no guarantee that they'll put it in.
 
@tombull89 I kind of get Jef's preaching to the choir. But, we could use it as leverage to get Facebook/google/... onboard
A lot of Facebook-employees use the SE-network
don't know for google
apart from John Skeet :)
 
I added a comment to Joels answer as well...
Maybe SE won't go for a blackout...but do you need to talk to imgur (the image hosting provider)? That was, I believe, set up by a Redditor - so you'll have to make sure any image-based blackout won't affect the stack.imgur domain and we end up with no pictures.
that would be interesting.
 
Was indeed a redditor
 
morning
 
9:05 AM
@LucasKauffman hi
 
Morning
 
Huh, I didn't know that. Once you get to 10k rep, network wide you get a notification about chat flags.
 
why not earlier ?
aah chat flags
nvm :p
 
Dan
Mm, eggs on toast
 
9:21 AM
@Dan sharing is caring :(
 
@Dan I agree with @LucasKauffman share the love man
 
Morning all
 
Dan
Pop round - you're more than welcome! :D
This morning I am mostly learning that I don't know much about mutl threading in C#
 
@Dan Where are you based?
 
Dan
@t1nt1n Cheshire at the minute, though I live in Wolverhampton
 
9:27 AM
@Dan I used to Live in Kiddy. Know where you are... Now work in Malvern.
 
@SmallClanger how's the bike going ?
 
@Iain Spoke to someone at the shop who seemed to care more. They've refitted fork-mounted hangar and I'm going in to try it out again on Saturday.
 
@SmallClanger is that the hanger that was recommended over on bicycles ?
 
Dan
@t1nt1n Ah, I was in Cleobury yesterday and Wednesday
 
@Iain Yep. The shop bloke offered it before I'd even explained what I'd learned, which is a good sign.
 
9:39 AM
Cool - hope it works out
 
Dan
Ahaha, shit - I just noticed if you go to your profile and look at visited, you can click on it the number and it'll show a calendar with all the days you logged on
I logged on EVERY.SINGLE.DAY in November
 
@Dan ooh - that's a new one on me, then again I have SF set up as a home page tab on every device I use so I log on every time I start a browser
 
Dan
I find it a bit addictive
 
@Dan SF is a drug.
 
Dan
@t1nt1n shakes Yeah, man
 
9:47 AM
I'm going to find it quite challenging to keep my run of consecutive days during my holiday in April - going to the west coast if Islay - no phone lines, no mobile signals ...
 
@Iain if you were a true geek you would find a soloution.
 
/me plays the MacGuyver theme tune
Hmm. I just ran through the first two bars of the theme tune in my head before I realised it was actually Blockbusters.
 
@Iain My god you are a madman!
 
Dan
@Iain Set up some JavaScript to refresh an IE page at a set interval while you're away
It's kind of cheating, but not really cos we're a tech site :D
 
10:03 AM
@LucasKauffman my requirement for wifi was trumped by location accommodation.islayinfo.com/islay-accommodation-detail/…
 
@WesleyDavid You never ignore the ITHedgeHog its bad for your health
 
Morning Cockhounds
 
Anyone know of any softweare for an Intranet/CMS etc like sharepoint and not sharepoint and needs to run on IIS.
 
@t1nt1n Give me £30K and I'll deliver one =P
 
Needs to have Wiki (some somethink like that) and things like the balls of sharepoint. @ITHedgeHog Ill buy sharepoint for that :P
 
10:10 AM
@t1nt1n How about the moon on a stick?
 
:)
 
@t1nt1n I keep getting that answer - but you would have HedgeHog awesomeness
And I'd then open source it 12 months after you've paid =P
 
:P
Any one used "Huddle" ?
 
Do you require document management?
 
10:15 AM
Would be nice. I would like to do SharePoint but the cost is putting me off.
Dont mind paying for something but not that much witha all the CALS
 
@Dan I don't think just lauching/refreshing a page works.
 
Dan
@tombull89 Disappointing!
 
@t1nt1n Honestly dude if you want those features, and you're running MS systems - SharePoint is probably the best bet - especially if you roll with MS Office
I did research before we settled on SharePoint 2K10
Couldn't find anything which remotely beat SharePoint on the integration side of things
 
Yea. Got to prove that its the best soloution. So I have to find an on-par alternate
 
Good luck, but I think you'll find sub-par alternatives ;)
 
10:27 AM
@t1nt1n or a lack of one
 
Sub-Par is fine :)
 
Sometimes I hate looking at old sites, so far I've discovered 17 occasions where one of our sites has been hacked over the past 10 years and we haven't noticed
I know why the old developer kept me away from his code when I was Infrastructure Manager, I would have pulled it
 
10:42 AM
@ITHedgeHog why didn't you just tell him to hand it over ?
 
I'm running along with a Dynamcis AX update/hotfix/merge layers
feeling like this
 
@LucasKauffman He was protected by the old IT Manager
They were firm friends
Thankfully the IT Manager was fired, and this guy quit
And I'm much more ruthless now. I turn off first and ask questions later.
 
@ITHedgeHog As you should, well if you are right :P
would be quite annoying if you turned something off that's not dangerous
 
Less annoying than leaving something running that causes trouble
@BartDeVos Good luck there, I have similar issues with Dynamics Nav
 
Dan
10:58 AM
@ITHedgeHog Urgh, my friend introduced me to the old version they're running
 
11:10 AM
Is there a reason why GRUB would not boot into an OS after wake on lan, but just hang there until someone makes a choice ?
 
@LucasKauffman is there a timeout normally?
 
yea normally there is
it works when I just power it with the button
mmmm gonna try it again
maybe it was a glitch
ok... I push shutdown -h now and the thing reboots ...
again :s
can it be the magic package is going around the network ?
weird
 
11:56 AM
@Dan it cost us about £60K to get our Nav system upgraded a couple of years back, that was to unwind customisations we had done previously.
~Now we cannot service pack it because there are customisations which need to be reworked
Odd =P
 
Dan
@ITHedgeHog :(
 
@ITHedgeHog the layer system is a cruel bitch :)
 
Dan
12:21 PM
@ITHedgeHog I've written some custom applications that interface with our CRM installation and our accounts package. I dread the day they get updated
 
12:43 PM
what a muppett.
 
Dan
:O
 
Being fighing with WAMP for about 10 mins.... Downloaded the X64 and trying to install on a X32 VM :@
 
Dan
Haha, brutal
 
I feel like a muppett tho.
 
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Q: Is HP p212 raid controller supported on Ubuntu 8.04 server LTS?

Frodiksorry for my simple question, however I can't find any useful resources on the internet. Except the official HP page about my p212 here. From this I understand that HP doesn't support Ubuntu 8.04. But there could be built-in support in Ubuntu kernel itself. But I don't know where to look for this...

 
12:58 PM
@t1nt1n that's nothing, my wife's blog site has been sat there for two weeks with a robot.txt not a robots.txt - my fault - doh!
 
:P
 

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