Root Access

bwDraco

22:01

(legacy Skyrim is only capable of allocating 4 GB of memory, 2 GB before patch 1.3.1; Skyrim SE is 64-bit and therefore not subject to the same constraints)

I think one of the challenges Bethesda ran into is making Skyrim SE "bug-compatible" with legacy Skyrim, because existing mods need to be portable.

Burgi

@allquixotic best not get involved

bwDraco

Furthermore, SkyUI is no longer under active development so a port to Skyrim SE is unlikely. techraptor.net/content/…

Burgi

@noitsbecky this is the problem with living in insecure temporary accommodation

you need to get yourself a proper flat/house

noitsbecky

@allquixotic No, it's Becky :-P

Mark Yisri

22:28

Stock Windows from a CD doesn't come with decoders right?

Bob

@MarkYisri what "decoders"?

Mark Yisri

@Bob sorry! DVD decoders

Bob

@MarkYisri Ah. Not as of Windows 8, I believe.

Not unless you got the media centre pack.

Mark Yisri

This is XP

bwDraco

AotS worth $10 (Steam sale)? Not exactly an RTS fan.

(I don't think this machine will cope with it well; Kepler will run the game but lacks full DX12 support. The game tends to favor AMD hardware.)

Bob

22:30

@MarkYisri XP... probably does? But maybe not, idk.

XP is old enough it might be before DVD codecs were supported natively.

Oh, apparently not.

@bwDraco Depends. They've updated it a lot, but at release the AI opponents were insanely hard (esp. in single-player)

It's a fun little game to have PvE skirmishes on, though :P

Worth it ultimately depends on, e.g., how many hours of play you expect to get.

@bwDraco DX12 doesn't really help that much by itself. But the game really needs a fairly beefy CPU (and GPU, but you can set a lower res and quality instead).

What were your specs again?

bwDraco

I have serious doubts the game will run acceptably at 1080p.

Bob

@bwDraco You can always run it at, say, 720

bwDraco

Core i7-4800MQ (Haswell 4C/8T @ 2.7-3.7 GHz). GTX 780M (1536 CUDA cores in 8 of 8 SMXs on Kepler GK104 @ 771-849 MHz; 4 GB GDDR5 @ 5 Gbps on 256-bit bus).

The GPU will be the bottleneck.

@Bob The game requires minimum 1080p resolution.

I suspect the UI will not work well at lower resolutions...

Bob

@bwDraco Does it now?

bwDraco

> 1920x1080 Display Resolution or Higher

Bob

22:40

Remind me to check when I get home, but I'm pretty sure I ran it at 1600x900 on a laptop before

@bwDraco Possibly, but not necessarily.

bwDraco

I've never been great at RTS games.

Bob

When there's giant armies roaming around... well, my i7-2600 cried

bwDraco

I don't know if it's worth a shot now...

Bob

@bwDraco Entirely up to you. But Steam does refund thing if you play less than 2 hours, so you can at least download it and run the benchmarks.

bwDraco

I don't want to wind up requesting a refund.

noitsbecky

22:43

@OliverSalzburg Yes, that must have been it.

bwDraco

@Bob That's 2C/4T. I think this laptop will perform better here...

(AotS expects 4C/4T at minimum and performs best with 8C/16T)

noitsbecky

@NotAdminDave Thanks for the tip. Unfortunately a bit late, since Dog is dead. But tbh it went away pretty quick.

I've got a pretty decent immune system. By pretty decent I mean superb.

That's the fourth disease I've caught off other people at a hostel that only affected me 1/4 as much as it did the person who poisoned me

Bob

@bwDraco Uh, no. An i7-2600 had 4 physical cores and 8 hardware threads.

bwDraco

I'm seeing conflicting information...

I'll just check ARK.

Bob

@bwDraco I'm seeing a chip sitting on my desk...

noitsbecky

22:47

I think the "blood that didn't look like blood" vomit might have been the result of mixing banana and vanilla smoothie with a blueberry and apple smoothie, a burger, and some salami.

bwDraco

Yeah. It's 4C/8T.

This laptop will not run this game well.

Bob

cpubenchmark.net/…

bwDraco

tomshardware.com/reviews/…

Bob

@bwDraco ...my i7-7700k does alright.

Pretty good actually, no noticeable slowdowns.

Mark Yisri

@Bob Other DVDs work fine.

Bob

22:49

@JourneymanGeek and @allquixotic run it on older (Skylake? And I think @JourneymanGeek is still on Ivy?). And it's fine for them.

bwDraco

5 mins ago, by bwDraco

(AotS expects 4C/4T at minimum and performs best with 8C/16T)

Bob

@MarkYisri other DVDs? y'know, this would be much easier if you provided more context...

noitsbecky

Hey @Bob, how's the new PC?

Bob

@noitsbecky Pretty good :)

noitsbecky

Also Dog forgot to mention before he died love you too @allquixotic

Bob

22:50

Thanks to everyone here for the advice

noitsbecky

7700K + GTX 1080, man I'm jealous

Mark Yisri

@Bob Software DVDs, printer drivers, Lion King movie, audio Cds

bwDraco

I'm aiming to build a system of similar caliber soon. I'm just waiting on home renovations and new furniture.

noitsbecky

So asshat who stole my card checked out of hostel this morning and did an exactly 20 pounds contactless transaction at 12:36 at Tesco store in the middle of town and 1406 did the same at Sainsbury's by the central train station.

Bob

@MarkYisri Those don't require the DVD video codec.

noitsbecky

22:52

Given the hostel ID's everyone who checks in and the police have exact times he was at two stores, and the fact the behaviour smacks of profesionnal thief, I suspect the police will be onto him soon enough

Mark Yisri

@Bob I thought movies need that.

Bob

There's the DVD disc format (and filesystem, usually UDF) for general data, and then there's the DVD codec for videos in a very specific format.

Mark Yisri

@Bob if the computer doesn't even detect the disc (but it works in other computers) does that come before the codec?

noitsbecky

@Bob That codec is just MPEG-2

Bob

@noitsbecky o.O

reported stolen yet?

noitsbecky

22:53

The container is probably the more "specific" business

bwDraco

Will AotS crash or fail to run on a 2C/2T or 2C/4T processor?

noitsbecky

@Bob Yeah, hence how I got the transaction locations and times off my bank to pass onto the cops

Bob

@noitsbecky well, technically the important (read: annoying) part is CSS...

Hennes

No PIN needed for the contactless payments?

noitsbecky

@Bob Eh, yeah, that

Bob

22:54

but yea the encoding itself is just an MPEG variant. bleh.

noitsbecky

@Hennes Nup, just touch the card to the reader. Or hover it over without touching

bwDraco

pcworld.com/article/3039552/hardware/…

Bob

@bwDraco No, it won't, AFAIK.

Hennes

Yuck. Sounds vulnerable without a thief involved.

noitsbecky

Apparently contactless fraud is low enough that the banks/retailers are willing to just take a hit on the unauthorized ones.

bwDraco

22:55

Hennes

I tend to take the security view sometimes.

bwDraco

All the way down to 1C/2T.

noitsbecky

Less than 1p per 100 pounds is fraudulently spent apparently, i.e. much lower than overall non-contactless card fraud

Hennes

And the big advantage of credit cards thus far is that it either needed a PIN or a pin+a password

bwDraco

Performance falls off a cliff when the game is given less than eight threads.

Bob

22:56

@MarkYisri You can read the files just fine. You just can't turn the (encrypted, see CSS) data into something your eyes can understand as a video.

Mark Yisri

@Bob I can't read the files.

Bob

@noitsbecky fake ID, possibly?

Mark Yisri

noitsbecky

@Bob We'll have CCTV and passport/drivers license number once the police turn up

Burgi

@MarkYisri dead drive

Mark Yisri

22:57

@Burgi the drive works with other DVD/CDs

Bob

@bwDraco I don't see a cliff there.

noitsbecky

Though to be fair, I'm not sure how much effort the police are going to put into tracking down petty theft

Bob

I just see normal performance degradation.

Burgi

@MarkYisri dead disc

noitsbecky

But I figured I'd try considering these kinds of people are the one type completely destroying the hostel culture

Mark Yisri

22:58

@Burgi disk works in other computers ! :D

noitsbecky

@Bob Possible.

Bob

@MarkYisri ...that's just a failed drive or DVD.

noitsbecky

But chances are it'll be someone "known to the police" soon if they aren't already...

Bob

or, if it's self-burned and your computer is old enough to be running XP (?!?!), it could even be a DVD-R vs DVD+R thing

Mark Yisri

I hate to be persistent, but... the drive works with other CDs. The disc works in other computers.

noitsbecky

22:59

Evidently he's not very original and doesn't go very far, seeing as the hostel he stole from and both shops he used the stolen cards in are within 0.2 miles of each other

Mark Yisri

@Bob not self-burned

Bob

@MarkYisri then... what exactly is it?

Mark Yisri

@Bob the Disney "Inside Out" movie :D

Bob

@MarkYisri And you're sure it's actually a DVD and not BD?

@noitsbecky fail.

Mark Yisri

@Bob It says DVD on it

but what is a BD?

noitsbecky

23:01

Oh it's Chinese new year

Dang

Burgi

is it a purple dye? some older drives struggled twith them

noitsbecky

I'm gonna get flagged and banned again aren't I

Urgh :-(

Bob

@Burgi a purchased DVD should be pressed

unless it's a DSD (Dodgy Street-corner DVD)...

@MarkYisri bluray

DavidPostill

@noitsbecky Yup. Be careful :)

Burgi

@Bob i missed that as i was out putting the frost cover on my car

bwDraco

23:07

Is Ashes of the Singularity NUMA-aware?

(Game uses up to 16 threads; not sure if a 2P server is going to help since Xeon E5 v4 processors are available with up to 22 cores :P)

Bob

>
8:22 PM
Package arrived at a carrier facility
Orlando, FL, US
12:00 AM
Package has left the carrier facility
Fife, WA, US
--
Package has left seller facility and is in transit to carrier
Portland, OR, US

hmmmmm.

...delvery address is in Portland OR

so it's going from OR to WA to FL ... back to OR?

is the US postal system really that convoluted?

wait. why is it taking a detour from NW US to SE US anyway?!

Journeyman Geek

@Bob Ivy

core i7 3770

Bob

23:26

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Q: Why is the boot sequence no more visible with a Gainward GTX 1060 Phoenix?

I have a Gigabyte GA-Z87MX-D3H with a Xeon E3-1230 v3 and a Dell UP2414Q set to use DP 1.2a to get 4K@60 Hz via DisplaPort. With a nVidia GTX 760 the monitor was turning on at boot, in time for me to see the Award logo and to enter the UEFI BIOS. The BIOS is set to "other OS" (vs Windows 8) and ...

I like this question if only because of the hardware involved :)

@JourneymanGeek ^

Journeyman Geek

fastboot?

Paul Vargas

23:40

Hi to all!

By the way, do you know one good alternative to Evernote?

Journeyman Geek

@Bob >_>

what about it?

bwDraco

15 tabs using 2.0 GB of memory on Firefox Developer Edition with process-per-tab enabled (limit 256 processes for giggles)

(by the time I have that many tabs open, the system will probably be paging to disk)

Bob

@JourneymanGeek ?

Journeyman Geek

I mean, what's so special about the hardware? ;p

Bob

@JourneymanGeek 4k, Dell... :P

Journeyman Geek

23:52

ah

previous gen though I think

Might be SST

bwDraco

Opened 12 more tabs with heavy pages and memory use has ballooned towards 5 GB.

Bob

@bwDraco ...yea, that's borken

how heavy is heavy?

ooh, can you dump your about:memory?

I'm curious now :P

Ramhound

-1

A: ISP cant block my website

Your ISP blocks port 80 Nothing you can do about this one. You could try calling them to remove the block, but you'll have to get past the level 1 "Can you try rebooting to resolve this problem?" drones and the level 2 "We're not allowed to do that" drones first. More ISP's than not will block...

That question needs some serious love

Bob

@Ramhound you have an extra comma :P

wait, three extra commas

o.O

/nit

Ramhound

On a phone... huge hands.... commas will get added

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