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12:00 AM
 
@JourneymanGeek you can build one at home :P
 
12:21 AM
@Braiam: singapore is pretty strict with lasers
 
arg... gravatar and firefox don't play clean...
 
12:39 AM
@JourneymanGeek Let me guess... No more than 5mW allowed in country?
 
something like that, yeah
 
@JourneymanGeek Now we got "Will It Blend" brand brainwashed person.
 
@Boris_yo: blending a cd is a perfectly good method of data destruction
 
@JourneymanGeek But why blend and not cut it or something? Or use power tool cutting disc.
 
total destruction
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Q: Can Hosting company steal my Application Code, If Yes, than how can i protect it with Some Agreement or?

John CargoI am developing 1 web-application, and I have my own Virtual Private Server with some hosting company. My Question is, I am developing some application and i will be selling it as software as a service in future soon. But my doubt is, Can my Hosting Company steal my code ? , and if yes, than how ...

 
12:56 AM
wat.
 
Bob
Wow. (Un)holy comment argument on your answer, @JourneymanGeek...
 
lol
I expected that
 
1:21 AM
Soviet Hellmarch:
 
2:00 AM
Is this something you guys deal with?
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Q: Ubuntu 13.04 won't recognize my bootable USB

AlisonI'm currently using Ubuntu 13.04 on my ASUS F201E laptop. I'm trying to install a new OS that is meant to be more compatible with my harware. I've already created a bootable USB with the new OS on it no problem, and am now trying to reboot and install this new OS on my laptop. My USB is recogni...

 
2:22 AM
Can it boot to the USB on another machine?
 
-1
Q: How to make love to a superuser fag?

cuntfuckerI wanna know, bitch, if you know, let me now, you whore. I wanna know, bitch, if you know, let me now, you whore. I wanna know, bitch, if you know, let me now, you whore. I wanna know, bitch, if you know, let me now, you whore.

I don't think he likes us
 
@50-3 just flag it... don't downvote it
 
@Braiam flagging something as offensive adds a downvote, I didn't downvote it
 
something terrible happened at SO... Jon Skeet got a downvote D:
 
3:03 AM
find 4 errors in that image..
 
@50-3 What's with people these days?
 
Bob
3:19 AM
@Braiam those are some mighty big images/webpages/emails.
 
3:40 AM
@Seth yes if the question is improved a bit. The subject is on topic.
 
4:26 AM
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Anyone here have any experience with ubuntu's Squid?
 
4:48 AM
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5:18 AM
lol
all 4 of it.
 
5:56 AM
that was silly
I usually hide my taskbar
I had un-auto-hided it to check out something for an anwer, didn't autohide it
and was wondering why it didn't auto hide
 
6:31 AM
thats my sockpuppet
 
6:42 AM
mornin
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek of course @JourneymanGeek's sockpuppet is a robotic dog
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@Bob: I must admit, I find the idea amusing.
also, being a low rep user sucks
 
7:01 AM
@JourneymanGeek low rep users suck or it sucks to be a low rep user? oO
 
@flote: it sucks to be a low rep user.
 
@JourneymanGeek yeah, tell me about it. so many donts and cants :(
 
(I'm wondering how easy/hard it is to accrue reputation purely through quality edits)
also
newspaper says the US government shutdown is over
@allquixotic must be relieved
 
@JourneymanGeek still just temporarily right? they haven't actually agreed on anything but to postpone the agreement?
 
@flote: oh, its a start
not sure who lost worse
this is just ugly and childish
 
7:18 AM
@JourneymanGeek yeah, it's really irresponsible. If they had at least forgone their own salaries as well you could at least partially understand it, but to play with peoples lives over a political dispute is really disgusting
 
yeah
or their perks
hmm
What's the right close reason for homework questions?
we're getting a lot today
 
Bob
@jou really? local news sites are completely ignoring the U.S. :p
 
@Bob: front page of our newspaper
 
Bob
@flote I understand that the U.S.congress isn't allowed to change pay for their term
only for the next term
Some have been donating theirs though
 
@Bob: they also considered their fitness room to be 'essential'
 
Bob
7:33 AM
@jou :s
on a train right now. out the window on one side is blue sky with Sun. on the other side are the darkest clouds I've seen in months.
 
7:51 AM
aibobot can now post on meta XD
 
8:33 AM
@JourneymanGeek "I may or may not be replaced by a very small java script in future." :D
 
@flote: I felt that was necessary, and hillarious.
 
 
3 hours later…
11:14 AM
@JourneymanGeek What sorcery are you doing with it?
 
@OliverSalzburg: nothing yet
mostly a handful of edits
 
I'll keep my eyes on it -_-
 
So yesterday I was looking to add something to a web application where you can schedule meetings in rooms. Pretty much like a calendar. So I looked at fullcalendar
I quickly realized, it doesn't have the view I need. Because I need a horizontal layout :(
Luckily, someone implemented exactly what I needed (yay). Called resource views on top of fullcalendar
But it's not horizontally scrollable :/ So the layout was all mushed
Luckily again, someone implemented horizontal scrolling on top of that previous fork!
So now I'm 2 layers deep into fork hell. And the forks haven't been updated to the latest version of the fullcalendar!
Does anyone by any chance know of a better alternative? :P
I'm like 5 minutes away from building from scratch
 
@OliverSalzburg wouldn't it be easier to mod the output of fullcalendar instead of starting all over?
 
11:24 AM
@flote I thought about it. But I already know what the other 2 forks had to add to get what I want in fullcalendar. And fullcalendar is a 117K javascript library with variable like gts, sgt, sgs, nwe and the only comments are like ---------- Rendering Code ---------
 
yeah, I just noticed it's pretty extensive. seems fairly well documented tho
:)
 
Yeah, the user documentation is nice. The code documentation is non-existent
 
I've looked for calendar thingys in the past. they never seem to do what you want :)
 
And fullcalendar doesn't really support i18n, something I kinda need :\
@flote Heh, yeah :D
 
which is why @OliverSalzburg is tempted to make a better potato peeler, instead of eating the potatos ;p
 
11:26 AM
When I first came across fullcalendar a few weeks ago, I was like "OMG, I hit gold! This will save me so much time!"
 
Yesterday night I spent like 4 hours trying to merge the latest revision with those forks I mentioned. It was a huge mess
 
hehe
 
Especially since after I completed my merge, I realized the difference between editing a file and then selecting "resolve conflict using mine" and editing a file and then selecting "mark as resolved" :P
 
11:28 AM
@OliverSalzburg wouldn't it be nice if there was instead one button back deep in advanced features :-)
 
Because I did the first option for all of it :P
@Psycogeek Maybe I should have just merged in smaller steps :\
 
nice try, I guess they figure they can re-edit it out after it sinks down
 
@JourneymanGeek lol
 
@OliverSalzburg merging 3 messes together sounds like something I would do , right before I toss it all out :-)
 
@OliverSalzburg; I'm suprised that they use real people to do that
granted, most of them seem to be not terribly smart, and dumb enough not to realise that
 
11:34 AM
Anyone heard about ICE Affinity? There are motherboards that have TimeShift, something that is defined as time in switching between cores for load balancing. There are motherboard that have this value above 0 which isn't good. Higher TimeShift means lags in games and frameskips. Owners of such motherboards are said to demand avail of their warranty and demand motherboard that does not have this issue.
 
@Boris_yo no but I got a search engine , will that help?
 
I like that "ICE Affinity" is a term introduced by a company called "ICE Graphics"
 
@Boris_yo make it easy will ya :-)
 
11:36 AM
That sounds very trustworthy
 
"Pentium D, AMD X2 and even Pentium 4"
er...
thats rather old
 
@Boris_yo The code on that site is BS
 
Old games for 386-486-586 always were accelerated or frameskipping that it wasn't possible to play. Maybe this is solution.
 
the webpage is also web 0.5
 
You can't QueryPerformanceFrequency and then QueryPerformanceCounter in a loop reliably
As your process may have been moved to a different core with a different frequency
 
11:37 AM
@Boris_yo: there's a question on games running too fast on SU
 
@OliverSalzburg I don't understand this programming.
@JourneymanGeek Any keywords?
 
@Boris_yo Neither did the people who wrote it
 
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Q: Why do some old games run much too quickly on modern hardware?

TreyKI've got a few old programs I pulled off an early 90s-era Windows computer and tried to run them on a relatively modern computer. Interestingly enough, they ran at a blazing fast speed - no, not the 60 frames per second kind of fast, rather the oh-my-god-the-character-is-walking-at-the-speed-of-s...

 
And all their tool does is set the core affinity, which you can also do through Task Manager
 
@OliverSalzburg: but. ITS NOT ICE COLD.
 
11:39 AM
Oh wait, maybe that's their whole point with the code above... :P
 
and.. your OS can set core affinity pretty efficiently
 
@OliverSalzburg With tabbing out each time which isn't neat. With this program you can define affinity before running game.
 
"Real programmers" also know how to set the affinity for their processes to avoid issues introduced by this ;P
 
@Boris_yo so it just sets the affinity for a program, so it uses a specific core item? I think that is built into the system. maybe the start command can pull it off ? try >start /? and look at the first line?
 
and when
(which I have no idea about.)
 
hm
I think there was a question on this ;p
not sure if it was answered
 
"I was trying to get this internet explorer process launched so that it can use only 4 processors on a 8 core machine"

So 4 processors have 8 cores?
 
HT
er
4 core of 8
 
@Boris_yo The point is, as @Psycogeek also suggested, start can do the same thing as that ICEAffinity tool
 
@Boris_yo low only will change anything if there are other processes running. Low alone is a good choice when you want a program to be backgrounded.
 
11:45 AM
@Psycogeek What if I set low CPU priority instead of setting affinity? What would change?
 
@Boris_yo The problem is about having your process moved to another core, not about processing speed
And just because you're scheduled at low priority doesn't mean your speed is affected
 
"CPUKILLER is a software capable of slowing down your computer up to 99% permitting you to run old software."

lol does it overload your PC to 99% so you could play old games?
 
@Boris_yo Low only (aka idle priority) is a good choice by itself to background a process. It will still run 100% ANYWAY , given nothing else wanting the cpu. I used it in that case to do anything to slow the execution down.
 
I remember setting Winamp to highest priority for encoding and experiencing big delays while doing something in parallel.
 
@Boris_yo I think that is right, they toss a high process in, that tries to keep the processor busy. A combination of affinity, and priority , could cripple a program. Like put a benchmark and a game forced on the same core (affinity), and put the game at Low (priority), and the benchmark on high, and the game will have about 2 FPS :-)
 
11:53 AM
@Psycogeek What about other 3 cores available? Are they disabled in this case?
 
@JourneymanGeek Then game has no problems to get help from them.
 
@Boris_yo affinity just tries to shove the programs thread to only one core item. everything else is pretty much uneffected Including things (not set specific) can still try and use that core item.
 
@Psycogeek Well it only makes processor produce more heat and reduces its life.
 
Ash
!!spam
 
11:56 AM
@Ash That didn't make much sense. Use the help command to learn more.
 
Ash
hey this guys now chatbot.
i used to know him as john
 
!!cowsay "ChatBot: What's wrong Ash?"
 
@Boris_yo They probably pick a choice process that Hangs up the core with work, but doesn't require a lot of work. Not being a programmer I wouldn't know.
 
 _____________________________
< "ChatBot: What's wrong Ash?" >
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        \   ^__^
         \  (oo)\_______
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                ||     ||
 
@Boris_yo: basically the game will ONLY run on that core
but it may share the core with other things
>_>
 
11:58 AM
@Psycogeek I though they create fake process to tax processor.
@JourneymanGeek What's this?
 
@Boris_yo I would think so. but that they would choose something that is specific to clogging up the works :-)
 
Ash
this guy asks here about macro in excel.i wonder if this is a programming question.comments superuser.com/q/661137/241659
?
 
excel fits here
 
Ash
@JourneymanGeek well , i know that.but something is wrong about it.
i cant understand it .can u ?
looks good now.
 
I don't really do any coding at all.
 
12:06 PM
@Ash Me thinks that macros and batching and simple VBS is not "as much" programming, as it is a user trying to get something working, with a program.
 
Ash
@Psycogeek hey , how have u been ? long time no see.
 
@Ash I have been frustrated :-) or was that just a greeting ? Still trying to get this new computer working. plus get everything off the old computer (organized) plus try and do all the stupid stuff that I did when there was only one.
 
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A: Batch file to delete folder and its contents

user264135Thanks for removing my comment about your script not working. I guess your ego couldn't take it? REM set the name of the directory you would like to target for deleting set dirname=SAMPLE The following does not seem to work when I set it to a value of 11 for the name REM set the name of the d...

Nice :D
 
govuptime.com needs updating...
@OliverSalzburg why is that still alive?
 
@Braiam Because I was still working on my comment :P
 
12:13 PM
BOO!
 
And, excuse me, for not watching the flag queue at all times! :D
 
didn't you know about the proforma comments? canned comments? :P
 
hola
 
@OliverSalzburg lol, poor dude. they should have put some user interaction into the script, and used echos instead of comments. Only take 3-4 times as long to make the batch :-)
 
@Braiam Sure, I even forked the the other day to save up on clicks ;)
@Sathya Greets!
 
12:14 PM
you folks know if there's an offline download/installer for Win 8.1?
 
@Sathya Well, the downloader can download an ISO and then you can use that Wait, 8.1. Sorry
 
@Sathya: I have it on MSDN dreamspark
 
@JourneymanGeek just 8.1 install? or Win 8 + 8.1 slipstreamed?
 
8.1 iso
not tried it yet
 
okay
is it legal for you to put it up somewhere? dropbox/otherwise
 
12:16 PM
I need to remember to backup my experimental drive
 
DOSbox seems like a good method to run old games...
 
legal... no idea
I can grab it when I get home however ;p
 
And old games tend to tax your CPU fully but most of it goes down the drain.
 
.@TelePolitics Boris checking to see if the clouds really are made of cotton wool
Boris is too popular.
 
O_O
 
Ash
12:23 PM
this is a doubt , may be silly: when wget mirror a site which has a wordpress platform , do wget mirror the file containing password ?if not why doesn't ? is it to do something with robots.txt ?
 
no, it has to do with the .htaccess file
also, when WP store passwords in plaintext?
 
Ash
@Braiam when you setup wordpress site , in a configuration file i think.isn't ?
 
... eh, no, unless they will be stupid enough
 
@Ash it does't. You get a 404
 
Ash
so what does robots.txt do ?
 
12:27 PM
@Braiam @Ash WP-config.php stores the db password in plaintext. Not the post password
 
so... I won't be using WP... nice :D
is like asking "look, here's the password hack my DB" :D
 
Ash
@Sathya , yeah i forgot
so , how does .htacces prevent any crawler from reaching WP-config.php
?
 
it tells server "do not show the gems"
 
Ash
@Braiam thats pretty cool .
i mean ur answer
:-)
in review , if you doesn't pass a surprise test does they show anything ? like "you doesn't passed the test.you were careless" ?
 
can't remember what tho
 
Ash
12:37 PM
i never came across.but just wondered if there was something like that .
 
@Braiam There's a way to move it in your hosting's home directory inaccessible to others.
 
it should be readable by the server, hence exposed to vulnerabilities of the server....
 
@Braiam Your hosting provider protects your server.
 
@Boris_yo lolno
 
@Boris_yo you shouldn't trust your hosting so blindly...
 
12:53 PM
@Ash Yes, it does exactly that
 
@Braiam You have solution to propose?
 
yeah, don't use wordpress
 
@Braiam What to use?
 
beats me...
 
@Braiam I know what. Don't use any CMS at all due to vulnerabilities. Build your Web 1.0 website from scratch on HTML!
 
1:02 PM
your desition
 
Ash
@Boris_yo i propose Jekyll
its not a cms tho
i hope
 
Ash
@Boris_yo thats my first encounter with lmgtfy
 
My favorite is MODX. But they all have risks, they all have issues. They all get hacked at some point. The problem with Wordpress is the same as with Windows. Such a large user base makes it an attractive target. Any vuln found is exploited almost immediately.
 
1:20 PM
wordpress is ok, as long as you keep it up to date
 
So, it's not ok?
 
lol
its like democracy. Its a bad option but the others are worse.
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek And be careful about your plugins.
 
@JourneymanGeek Keep monitoring actuality of plugins, keep everything backed up and of course take basic and advanced security measures.
 
Bob
1:25 PM
> It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried.
 
I use nearly none except akmiset.
 
@Bob Freedom of choice is illusion and trickery. We think we have choice but we don't.
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek I was planning to use a Markdown one :P
Which reminds me, I still need to set it up. Urgh procrastination.
 
@JourneymanGeek And quantity of plugins will tax your WordPress performance on server and server per se. So use only important plugins.
 
@Bob hey, heard of ghost.org?
 
Bob
1:27 PM
@jokerdino No?
 
@Paul Wise answer.
 
Good. It's a [........] blogging platform.
 
Bob
Ew Macbook on the front page. closes tab
 
CONGRATZ @allquixotic
 
Bob
1:29 PM
@jokerdino It looks interesting, actually.
 
@jokerdino I just got my ghost invite. Is it good
 
@Paul Still waiting for them to open up the hosting service.
Tried to build it locally but it fails on some lame npm error.
Or was it a sqlite3 error.
 
@Bob It's only a stock image. MacBooks, iPhones are part of company's marketing. used widely in Hollywood movies. I hardly see common laptops or smartphones.
 
@jokerdino Yeah, I'll download it when I get time to play. Which will be in exactly infinity minutes.
 
Bob
@Paul Invite?
 
1:31 PM
@Paul Pretty much why I prodded Bob. He got infinite free time. :D
@Bob It was an invite only until two days ago.
 
Bob
Ahhh.
 
Bob
@jokerdino And infinite procrastination abilities...
@Braiam Is that a problem?
 
@jokerdino Oh yeah, it was two days ago, so not an invite, just a notification I am allowed in now
 
@Bob deppends
just pointing it out....
 
1:33 PM
@Bob procrastinate to sleep? Weird.
 
I read it as Haskell notebooks and went 'K'.
 
Bob
I might install the 8.1 update this weekend. Expecting it to break my laptop (again)
 
$299 notebooks, not bad.... considering my laptop was about 1500 more :P
 
@Bob hell yes. IE needs to be taken out back and shot for all the sleepless nights it has brought me
 
1:41 PM
IE should have been shot years ago, around version 5
 
Bob
Wait, 8.1 was released today? Hm. That might explain the Windows stand on campus.
 
My school only JUST upgraded to 7 when i left
 
Bob
@flote For fuck's sake, stop equating IE9+ with IE6.
 
people still use IE6 tho
 
Bob, think about the kittens before swearing.
 
1:42 PM
@Bob yeah but its IE and it still sucks
 
Bob
I don't know how many times I need to say this. At the time IE6 was released, Chrome was over half a decade away and FF was still in its infancy.
 
@bob if all IE users would update their browser it wouldn't be a problem
 
@jokerdino kittens? you meant pandas?
 
Bob
@flote Then that's their problem. Developers need to drop support. MS has dropped support for IE6 already.
 
@Braiam Hello pandas? I devour them.
 
Bob
1:43 PM
It you decide to support them, that's your own bloody problem.
 
@Bob Even google struggles on IE6
 
Bob
@SimonSheehan So?
You're looking at a browser over a decade old.
 
My point is, its dead, and I have no idea why anyone still uses it for any reason
 
Bob
Chrome from 2002 wouldn't work at all on any websites because it didn't even exist.
 
Wow it was that long ago eh, crazy
 
1:44 PM
@jokerdino how you can eat them? carnivorous! look at the sad panda!
 
Bob
@SimonSheehan XP is of a similar age, and MS ended mainstream support for that probably half a decade ago now.
 
@Bob That is all very well, but they messed up IE7 and IE8 too, by not bringing it up to the same standards level as other browsers at the time. IE9 is the first compatible browser.
 
Bob
@Paul At the time, IE8 was decent.
 
@jokerdino is that -saur food?
 
1:45 PM
Where is netscape when you need it
 
Bob
IE8 was released back with the first stable release of Chrome.
 
@Braiam (:
 
Mind you, the first stable chrome was, well, very stable
 
Bob
People are comparing versions of IE literally a decade older than the 'competitors' they are being compared to.
 
@Braiam Endangered pandas.
 
Bob
1:46 PM
It's no longer fair to say, as a blanket statement, "IE sucks" based solely on your experience even a year ago, considering the pace of browser development.
 
@Boris_yo and @jokerdino eats the poor creatures :(
 
@Braiam Then let's eat him.
 
@Bob Sure - but only three years old - but it doesn't support any of the modern features that FF, Safari and Chrome supported back then. It past acid2, fine but everyone was working with acid3 at the time, and ie8 scored 20%
 
@Bob But at this point, the past has kind of killed IE for most people. Hell, first thing I do when i install my OS is uninstall IE
 
Bob
@SimonSheehan Likely not.
 
1:47 PM
@Bob sure, maybe you need to be a little clearer and say "people who use IE < 9 suck"
 
@Bob Speaking as someone who tested it
 
Bob
@SimonSheehan Even now I wouldn't call Chrome "very stable".
 
@Bob I've been using firefox since 0.9.... so you get the idea
 
@SimonSheehan Chrome always eats memory up and crashes flash plugin.
 
@Boris_yo Indeed, hence why I quickly went back to firefox, which has yet to fail me
 
1:49 PM
I even remember MS announcing IE8 as their most compatible browser ever. This was true, but they achieved it by not supporting any new standards
 
@SimonSheehan But for me Chrome handles YouTube videos more smoothly than Firefox.
 
this year, more than 40% of IE users were <= 8 on our site
 
@Boris_yo Really? Interesting... I may test that out, although performance has never been an issue for me... except when my computer had about 256MB of RAM and an 800mhz processor... but it usually managed fairly well in the end
 
@flote 8 people?
 
<= IE 8
version number
 
1:51 PM
@SimonSheehan Visually I experience slow slower framerate but statistics indicate constant stable framerate.
 
:1172827 Damn that is a lot. A recent customer of ours had 10% <=IE8 and it was a bit nervous about not support ie8. But damn, these people need to upgrade and pandering to them is not helping anythig
 
@Boris_yo Interesting... I may give it a try. Although this macbook has given me no issues with any web performance thus far. I'm also on the nightly firefox builds
 
maybe MS should replace all the gossipy shit and celeb pics on their msn startpage with a big fat banner telling people to upgrade
 
@Paul Don't Windows Automatic Update handle IE updates for them?
 
@Boris_yo Many people ignore or don't know what the updates icon is about
 
Bob
1:53 PM
@Paul Pretty much that. Either refuse to support or charge a lot extra and either the problem will solve itself or you'll earn a lot of money.
 
@Boris_yo Many people are in business environments where upgrading is a huge undertaking
The last place I was at was using ie7
With a grand plan to upgrade the SOE to W7 and the latest IE. I was working in and out of there for four years, and they still hadn't done it.
 
Mine has like IE7 but we only use it for training modules, which are old anyway
 
Bob
@Paul A lot of them are jumping to it around now, with tne end of extended support.
If there's one thing a tech can use to convince execs of the need to upgrade, it's the risk of massive security holes.
 

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