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12:04 AM
@JourneymanGeek What is?
 
@Paul: moodle/turnitin submission page I have been struggling for 2 days
 
12:50 AM
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@ChatBotJohnCavil thanks chatbot
I thought if it was a whole disk encryption, I'd have to enter a key before Windows could boot but with Checkpoint, I just need to enter my Windows password. Does that mean the computer doesn't have whole disk encryption separate of Windows?
 
@allquixotic like I said, I have put learning FP to good use as a .NET developer already. I've a better understanding of how to handle concurrency at a finer grain with techniques around immutability, as well as having learned some tricks for making very easy to use APIs. Designing an API to be a fluent API is very natural after learning FP because they're completely based on composition
 
1:05 AM
@JourneymanGeek Did you try the submit button? :)
 
@Paul: about 20 times
 
@kush At what point do you enter the windows password?
 
@Paul on the log in screen
on the Windows log on screen
Reminds me of the time when a friend managed to delete winlogon.exe on my winxp computer
 
@kush You don't see this first:
 
@Paul no I do not
 
1:10 AM
@kush OUCH
 
@Braiam I think he must have booted into a different OS. I was never able to replicate it.
 
or used at boot deletion...?
 
@Braiam Did MoveFileEx() exist before .NET 4.0?
also doesn't MoveFileEx() happen at log on?
 
is a NT feature
MoveFileEx(szSrcFile, szDstFile, MOVEFILE_DELAY_UNTIL_REBOOT);
 
@Braiam I have used it before :)
well the destination file is null for me
what was the joke about the fastest I/O speed is to /dev/null or something?
 
2:06 AM
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Have we met before?
 
 
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Bob
3:22 AM
@allquixotic You called?
 
Bob
3:54 AM
(warning: computer/bug gore): imgur.com/a/m3QeG
 
 
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5:00 AM
whoot 55K rep
 
Bob
5:32 AM
@JourneymanGeek :D
Next milestone: 60k
 
Bob
actually, 55555 would be nice
 
actually, I'd rather the epic badge ;p
 
Bob
hm, which one's that?
oh yea, walked into a local computer store today looking for some cat5e
he handed me some cat6e
 
50 200 rep days.
 
Bob
5:33 AM
you know, that category that doesn't exist
@JourneymanGeek how close are you? :P
 
lol
not very
 
Bob
I'm nowhere near
 
I think I need 18 more
 
Bob
o.O
 
lol
its doable
I just need more like these superuser.com/a/660235/10165 ;p
cause no one can resist old hardware or tech-gore
 
5:38 AM
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yanno
no one actually thought of using a blender.
 
5:56 AM
Trivia: What was the name of fortress where trolls lived?
@JourneymanGeek Oh YouTube, what have you done to common sense? Seems like these days attention whores go to the extremes.
 
6:12 AM
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6:35 AM
quick question, why can't I see "debug info" repo in SLES11 sp3
well I release that's a pretty open question, "why can't I see it", I'm just wondering if I should be able to see it
 
check the repo list?
 
6:55 AM
yeah weird thing is it's not there. Even using the modify command (blog.melski.net/2010/11/30/…) it's not appearing :?
 
was wondering when that would happen
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek another step closer to a SoC
 
we're pretty close to it
 
Bob
as long as they don't sacrifice performance
 
well, sound cards are pretty simple
 
Bob
7:16 AM
@JourneymanGeek I meant CPU (and GPU) performance.
Simple or not, additional components take up die space and cooling capacity.
 
@Bob: well, I guess
 
7:39 AM
ugh. Lots of people on reddit sysadmin are reporting they got hit with cryptolocker
with my luck, I THINK I ought to do a full system backup on my dad's old, grouchy laptop
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek ?
 
@Bob: one of those ransomware viruses
 
surprised people didn't know about cryptolocker yet.
 
they must be making mint
 
Bob
@jokerdino well, I haven't seen any mention of it
 
7:50 AM
the one time i am happy about using Ubuntu :P
 
lol
you hate it the rest of the time?
 
yeah.
it's a love-hate relationshp
 
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Q: HOW TO TRANSFER MEMORY FROM 1 DISK TO ANOTHER DISK?

user263909IN MY PERSONAL COMPUTER C: DRIVE IS EMPTY AND D: IS FULL SO I WANT TO TRANSFER MEMORY C: TO D: DRIVE SO PLEASE HELP ME. IN MY PERSONAL COMPUTER C: DRIVE IS EMPTY AND D: IS FULL SO I WANT TO TRANSFER MEMORY C: TO D: DRIVE SO PLEASE HELP ME. IN MY PERSONAL COMPUTER C: DRIVE IS EMPTY AND D: IS FULL ...

you need to come over to the KDE side.
 
i'll maybe move to fedora
or debian
 
Bob
hm
considering MBAM is only $25 for a lifetime pro licence, I wonder why I don't just use that
it's known good, and a fraction of the norton yearly fee -_-
 
7:54 AM
debian is ok, but the packages are often older :/
 
debian sid !
 
Bob
I just use Kubuntu. Nice and easy and KDE.
OpenSUSE is decent - I like the default UI a bit more but some of the background stuff is confusing and scary.
 
what does suse use for package manager?
 
Bob
ZYpp (or libzypp) is a package management engine that powers Linux applications like YaST, Zypper and the openSUSE/SUSE Linux Enterprise implementation of PackageKit. Unlike other common package managers, it provides a powerful satisfiability solver to compute package dependencies and a convenient package management API. It is an open source and free software project sponsored by Novell and licensed under the terms of the GNU General Public License v2 or later. Zypper is the native command-line interface of the ZYpp package manager for installing, removing, updating and querying softwar...
I think it uses RPM packages.
> YaST2 and RPM MetaData package repositories are supported. Zypper repositories are similar to the ones used in YaST, which also makes use of libzypp. Zypper can also handle repository extensions like patches, patterns and products.
YaST (Yet another Setup Tool) is a Linux operating system setup and configuration tool that is featured in the openSUSE Linux distribution, as well as SUSE's derived commercial distributions. It features tools that can configure many aspects of the system. It is also part of the defunct United Linux. The first SuSE distribution that included YaST was released in May 1996. YaST was rewritten in 1999 and included first in SuSE Linux 6.3 as an installer-only. YaST2 was added to the desktop in SuSE Linux 6.4 and co-existed with YaST1 until YaST1's removal in SuSE Linux 8.0. Details YaST is ...
 
8:34 AM
Neverhood like game on Kickstarter: kickstarter.com/projects/armikrog/armikrog
 
 
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11:35 AM
hmm
5 rep away from capping ;p
 
I would have known how to destroy a CD as well :(
 
lol
I expected the question to be popular
just not that popular
 
I earned a bit of rep myself the past days. Invested it all into downvotes :D
 
Mods really should get some free downvotes
 
11:42 AM
I don't like downvoting
 
Well, what can you do?
People flag stuff as low quality and I get it in the flag queue
 
usually if something is bad enough for me to downvote, I want it dead.
which means I get the rep back ;p
 
Now what? The answer is crap. And I don't have the time to improve it, if that's even possible
 
lol
yeah, that does happen
 
It happens several times a day for me :P
I wish more people would just downvote that crap, then I could just delete it right away instead of having it to downvote myself and leave it
 
11:44 AM
lol
 
Instead we get 5 LQ flags on answers which sits at 0 :P
Oh well, enough complaining :D
 
@Boris_yo Hello Sir
 
12:08 PM
and... bingo
 
why do I get a "Cannot use parentheses when calling a Sub" on a vbscript replace(subject, from, to) ? oO
 
forgot to assign it to a variable ><
 
quack
 
VBScript...
Queue @allquixotic saying "It's not that bad. I've written a 16000 lines test harness in it that's running a major part of our QA system"
 
12:24 PM
lol
 
12:40 PM
yeah I still have a few sites in ASP that I still manage where a rewrite hasn't been an option. I never use it anymore except for the occasional update
still, no excuse for the nooby mistake :p
 
1:03 PM
Anyone uses Hamachi?
 
@Boris_yo Someone is probably using it, yes
 
@OliverSalzburg What you use it for?
I read ISPs assign private IPs now instead of public IPs due to IP addresses shortage...
 
1:26 PM
hi
@OliverSalzburg It's BAD. I've written ~2000 lines and read ~50000 lines of a test harness in it that's failing to perform as an adequate part of our QA system.
 
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Q: required a detail about giant excel spreadsheet

udayakumarmy name is udaya i am working a small company as a junior system admin i am search a excel sheet a get a live ip and computer name in network but i not got it can u help me i saw a post of yours about a giant excel spreadsheet it will show a ip address and computer name also so i need a deta...

Why do people from certain cultures always have to give their life's story when asking a question? I don't mind the lack of proper case, or the poor English, or (really) the problem they're trying to solve, but the whole "my name is ...", stating where they work, and "sir please help me"... just awful
 
@allquixotic in that case... the translation is horrible too...
 
I apologize in advance for the edit summary/comment :P (well, not really)
 
Bob
So, MalwareBytes... found a "Trojan.MSIL".
This happens to be something I compiled back when I was first learning C#.
It's a dummy program that literally does nothing.
 
1:34 PM
@Bob lol... "IT'S TRYING TO INJECT .NET BYTECODE!!!!"
 
Bob
Ayup.
It's so dangerous.
 
I love it when programs get false positives like that
 
Bob
Apparently programs that do nothing are a huge red flag :\
Oh wait, it doesn't do nothing.
ILSpy:
// test
public static void Main()
{
	string arg = "Meh - This is a LOOP. It will never end! Muahahahaha!";
	int i = 500;
	while (i > 0)
	{
		Console.WriteLine("{0}", arg);
	}
	Console.ReadLine();
}
 
@Bob I once had the same problem with a C++ application that does nothing
 
Bob
> Trojan.VBAgent
Another one...
 
1:37 PM
It's probably some heuristic thing that detects applications that disguise as doing nothing ;P
 
Bob
Oh god, now it's gone into my decade-old backups.
> Joke.Stressreducer
> JokeApp.NotFunny
 
lolll
 
Bored lance is bored.
Nazi thing? Really? — Sathya 10 mins ago
 
@Sathya you like my answer to that MSU question by Debra? :P
 
@allquixotic hell yes
 
1:53 PM
@allquixotic absolutely
Why do people always think that the way they use a program is the way everyone uses it?
 
@allquixotic nice, specially the thing about the sitting duck debugging :P
 
@Sathya wtf...
You would think a 50k on MSO knows how SE works
 
@allquixotic the only appropriate time to say "My name is" is when its followed by "Inago Montoya"
@OliverSalzburg its SO. They don't know/care how the rest of us work ;p
 
@JourneymanGeek actually is Chuck Norris
 
@OliverSalzburg it's pretty easy to get lots of rep on MSO by posting funny pictures
 
2:01 PM
@allquixotic Good point
 
MSO rep is basically meaningless as far as judging a user's contribution to a community
SO rep is meaningful, but there are still lots of users on SO who will upvote anything, and a much larger community over there, so I usually divide a user's SO rep by 4 to get the equivalent rep they'd probably have on SU
 
@allquixotic Well, it indicates participation as much as it does on any other site
 
lol
@allquixotic: and you have people like me ;p
 
@OliverSalzburg it indicates participation, but there is a lot of "participation" on MSO that doesn't involve providing insightful, helpful answers, or asking good questions whose discussion benefits the community
MSO rep is kind of like a forum-wide post count on a vBulletin forum where there's a sub-forum called "Anything Goes" that allows off-topic discussion, blogs, news story posts, spam, etc.
great, you have 50000 posts! ... oh, 49000 of those are in "Anything Goes". Okay.
 
That's not at all what I am referring to. I'm not talking about credibility but about the users ability to understand basic concepts of SE
And if you have 50k on Meta SO, then you might not know jack about anything technical, but at the very least you should know how SE works
 
2:07 PM
@allquixotic: MSO is a bit of an anomaly
 
@Sathya @OliverSalzburg why are there so many posts deleted by moderators on the tag cleanup meta thread?
 
Which includes being able to judge usefulness of tags and being able to read a revision history to determine when a post was first created
 
its from before the proper meta sites
@terdon: completed killed tags
 
Ah, OK, thanks.
 
Now he's starting a rollback war?
 
2:09 PM
btw @JourneymanGeek , what is a dog doing saying "quack"?
 
@Braiam: reference to rubber duck debugging
 
I have to give you an upvote just for mentioning "help vampire", a term I've never heard before! [And I hope I'm being clear that I don't think people should be restricted to just answering questions where they are overflowing with expertise; I've already been asked this week "How did you find that answer so fast?" on something I simply researched and said so.] — Debra 5 mins ago
@OliverSalzburg ^^ our 50k MSO rep guy doesn't know about HV
 
why nobody uses the search function properly? who in the world will look for tags [configuration] [excel] when it most relevant superuser.com/search?q=[excel]+configuration
 
wait, debra is 50K on MSO?
 
Oli must be talking about some other user because I don't even see a MSO account for Debra
got our users mixed up I think
 
2:13 PM
@OliverSalzburg please, superuser.com/q/311426/235569 make honors ;)
 
yup
debra is the one I keep mistaking for a spambot ;p
 
I really dislike it when people just throw the word Nazi around. I guess it is more of a sore point with us Europeans.
 
@terdon it's kind of taboo in the US too, but immature schoolchildren use it a lot, as well as people in a very heated argument
 
@Braiam done :)
 
@allquixotic Right, I was referring to another user
 
2:15 PM
@OliverSalzburg I saw as much by reading up... whoops
 
But I don't want to draw any more attention to it right now :P
 
how this Looks Good?
 
Anyway, since we actually have a new-Nazi party in parliament in my country, I am quite sensitive about it.
 
@terdon funny how old ideas crop up again and again and try to wreck society
we have a "Tea Party" here in the U.S. -- they are a small faction within the official "Republican" party that has more radical rightist ideals than the mainstream Republican party, and their namesake is based on the "Boston Tea Party" where American revolutionaries in the late 18th century started rebelling against the British -- it's meant to convey images of strong anti-government sentiment
the Boston Tea Party was a good thing at the time -- when the United States territories were under oppressive British Imperial rule -- but the concept is being twisted to a nefarious purpose in the 2010s
Nazism was nefarious even back then, though, so I guess the two don't compare
 
2:20 PM
yeah, I know about the tea party (both of them). Not quite the same level of loonies.
 
@terdon: greece?
 
@JourneymanGeek yup
 
the wiktionary doesn't aggree en.wiktionary.org/wiki/nazi#English the word has different uses
adjetive pejorative included
 
Wow, I wish I could share the flag that was just raised with you :P
 
@Braiam yes, that is the use I don't like.
@OliverSalzburg come on! Do!
be subtle.
 
2:22 PM
I was accused of "hating the truth" :(
 
@OliverSalzburg obviously you do or you would let it shine by sharing the flag :)
 
haters gonna hate and say that other hate too... is called projection
 
@Braiam Since the second world war is still in living memory and we all (in Europe) know people who lived through it and often who lived through the actual Nazi occupation, it is not a word o be used lightly. This is 10 times more true in Germany for obvious reasons.
 
But.. I AM ON META.
 
:)
 
2:26 PM
> The proper way to try to implement sitewide tag changes is to ask a separate question for each tag or group of tags.
we will ask... >70 questions for tags?!
...
 
Bob
So... it's 17th Oct here.
In ~40 hours, the USA is going to implode.
 
what's the VA? Veterans Agency?
 
Bob
lol
@JourneymanGeek I just realised what I have done. I feel stupid now... I have a remote desktop connection to another machine. and as I have tabbed away the icons have remained there from the session running in the background. Sorry guys... — Secret Squirrel 2 mins ago
 
OUCH
 
@Braiam Yes
strangely enough, govuptime.com doesn't list SSA
 
2:34 PM
@JourneymanGeek The windows taskbar thing, it looks like the default taskbar on Windows Server
 
@Bob: AHAHAHAHA....
 
It has Server Manager, PowerShell and Explorer on. Which is the default IIRC
 
@OliverSalzburg: I checked windows 8 and 7 to make sure it wasn't those.
 
SSA isn't "under" any other part of the government -- it's an independent agency within the federal government, Bill Clinton changed it
 
Yeah, as I said, it's the default on Server
No idea how that is relevant though ;P
 
2:35 PM
the Commissioner of SSA reports to President Obama
 
@OliverSalzburg: I feel it would be entirely
If I'd known that, I would have had a better guess at what it was
rofl
 
@Bob I'm pretty sure it will implode, too :(
 
@allquixotic: I kind of think it already has
 
we're chewing on about 40 billion of some kind of emergency back pocket funds (OK maybe these are actually funds that were pulled from the posterior area rather than the back pocket; even more desperate than that) that should last the non-furloughed employees and contractors until November 1st
 
your government has gotten steadly disfunctional over the last 2 decades
 
2:38 PM
come November 1st the government will be completely broke
 
... 40 billion?
 
and unable to borrow because nobody trusts them to be able to repay
@JourneymanGeek yeah i read that number in some article, that's the amount of funds the government has to work with for the rest of October
come November 1, everything shuts down, even the "essential" personnel
 
Thats a very big number
unless its a government
 
not really
40 billion lasts the government about a month lol
with the current reduced spending rate
 
(both sides are going for maximum political mileage here)
 
Bob
2:40 PM
@JourneymanGeek I'm pretty sure the US government completely wastes several times that every year.
 
sadly the ideal is they both implode
@Bob: its the nature of running a large country ;p
and balancing diverse requirements
 
@JourneymanGeek lol but I think you meant Inigo :)
 
come November 1st, the government will be so shut down that the following would be true:
need an ambulance?
need a crumbling bridge repaired?
need to retire and receive benefits for the thing you spent your entire career paying 50% of your paycheck into?
need to get a permit to build a new store?
need to keep a robber from killing your family?
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek And the attached mountains of bureaucracy :P
 
!!tell 11709132 no
 
@terdon: yeah, I'm tired. ;p
@Bob: one reason I think smaller sub-government makes sense
 
Bob
@allquixotic Pretty sure a bunch of those are operated at the state and municipal levels?
 
@Bob some are, but states and local governments are also depending on federal funding these days
 
the whole federal system is nice for solving things between states.
 
2:42 PM
not entirely, but some
 
Bob
@allquixotic Hopefully enough to last a while.
It would be interesting to see the US descend into complete anarchy, but more than a bit frightening.
 
@Bob I think if we completely shut down the entire education system (except for private institutions) and completely shut down the welfare system, we might be able to afford basic fire/rescue/police/hospital services, and we might be able to repair bridges that are going to crumble within a month if we do nothing
but the government doesn't shut down piecemeal
the executive and the senate won't agree to keep large swaths of it shut down while diverting funding elsewhere
 
Bob
@allquixotic Huh, I thought it just did...
 
@Bob no, it isn't a piecemeal shutdown, because all agencies are equally affected
 
@allquixotic: I think senate and congress SHOULD be the first thing shut down
give them seats on the white house lawn, and this will be solved in 2-3 hours ;p
 
2:45 PM
the employees who are exempt from the shutdown were determined by the Anti-Deficiency Act (a law) to be required to maintain public order and safety and to keep the US Government compliant with its own laws
that's what "essential" really means -- people really misuse that word in the media
the law doesn't say anything about essential
it all comes down to a legal interpretation of which employees are absolutely required to ensure that the federal government doesn't violate its own laws, and maintains public safety
for example, there's a law that says that we MUST provide social security, so the people who are chiefly responsible for operating that system as it currently stands (but not the people who are improving the next generation of it in the background) continue to work
if the social security system were to shut down, the US would be violating a... US law... which is what the Anti-Deficiency Act basically doesn't allow
but if the US can't get any money at all or borrow it (due to the poor credit rating etc), they can't even pay those essential employees
so, yep, anarchy
not only would the US violate the Anti-Deficiency Act, but they'd also violate any number of other laws that establish and require the government to provide certain services or capabilities
 
Bob
@allquixotic Is there any defined procedure for that )hypothetical, for now) scenario?
 
@Bob yep
Martial Law, totalitarian rule, emergency measures
fiat currency, military occupation
establishing "order" by force
 
fiat currency? Don't we already have that?
 
Bob
...and all because an appropriation bill couldn't be passed.
There's something very ironic about that.
 
@DarthAndroid yeah, but I mean fiat currency in the sense that the executive himself - Obama - would probably declare a certain economic system by executive order that would at least allow basic things like the military to suit up and occupy the streets, make the food system work to ensure basic food security, and set up some kind of fire and rescue system
if you don't have an executive branch that can execute anything, you don't have a government -- so I'm pretty sure that in the complete absence of legally authorized power, Obama and his administration would simply seize the power they need to maintain "order"
using the military
basically "Deus Ex" is coming true, minus the nano-augmentations
and the sentient AI
 
2:51 PM
as far as we know
 
lol
the emergency measures / martial law system would work in citizens' favor to protect them in the near term, but if it kept dragging on, eventually the iron fist / totalitarian imperative would eventually choke the entire country to death
 
Bob
@allquixotic And/or civil war shudder
 
I think I would be physically okay (and economically too since we have a lot of savings) through the end of the year, in the event of martial law
but who knows after that
 
that presumes a organised resistance
more likely it will be anarchy
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek Lots of dissenting opinions in a very large country with a totalitarian 'government'? There will be one or more.
 
2:56 PM
@Bob: with a civil war, there's generally a winner
the failed state scenario is even scarier
though less likely
 
@JourneymanGeek I imagine Fallout 3 type scenario eventually
without all the radiation (hopefully!)
 
@allquixotic: or book of eli
I'd prefer something like crimson skies
 
problem is, this will affect the rest of the world no matter what, it will have a ripple effect
a lot of the money that we owe, we owe to other countries
and we're going to default on those debts, meaning those countries simply won't get the money they loaned us
 

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