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SmokeDetector

10:03

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, link following arrow in body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: what is this Dermafolia? by WinstonAdams on superuser.com

tpu- by Glorfindel

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: In any case, regardless of hl12 supplement way that diabetes can be savage, by Nowel1944 on drupal.SE

tpu- by Glorfindel

Mithrandir

@SmokeDetector k

ArtOfCode

@Mithrandir reference to Andy's, actually

Andy was teaching machines before it was cool

Glorfindel

This one

Mithrandir

Ah, yeah, forgot about that one.

DavidPostill

@Glorfindel Nice, but also includes closed beta sites :/

Glorfindel

10:11

@DavidPostill ~~yeah, I should probably exclude Arabic as well.~~ done; did I miss any other sites?

SmokeDetector

CI on a3c1043 succeeded.

angussidney

!!/pull

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev a3c1043 (ArtOfCode: Merge pull request #526 from Glorfindel83/master) (running on teward/Aurora)

Restart: API quota is 5125.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: which then shows for angry looking head on the surface of skin color. by Thozroist on meta.SE

tpu- by Glorfindel

DavidPostill

@Glorfindel I don't think so :)

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Porbiotics Benefits by turdalak on workplace.SE

tpu- by Mithrandir

Byte Commander

10:19

Uncaught post that was deleted as spam: askubuntu.com/posts/883514/revisions

Glorfindel

@ByteCommander do you have the source?

Byte Commander

Yes, but it's rather long... putting it on a pastebin

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, bad keyword in username, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body: How Naturacel Boost our skin rediance? by naturacel on superuser.com

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer, repeating words in answer: add data in database dynamically by user50687 on magento.SE

Yvette Colomb

sd k

@SmokeDetector k

Byte Commander

@Glorfindel pastebin.com/fRhVnvCk

SmokeDetector

10:23

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Skin Care 5 Ideas To Enhance A Woman'S Skin by dfsfsdere on drupal.SE

tpu- by Yvette

Glorfindel

@SmokeDetector k

SmokeDetector

10:35

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: Perhaps this cure hl12 supplement by Agre1955 on workplace.SE

angussidney

@SmokeDetector autoflagged

SmokeDetector

@angussidney That post was automatically flagged, using flags from: Yvette.

angussidney

sd - k

Magisch

"Oooh new report in charcoal" -> "deleted less than 20 seconds after being reported"

ridiculous speed

Cerbrus

@Magisch Ludicrous speed.

Magisch

10:38

@Cerbrus Did you read through yesterdays events?

Mithrandir

@Cerbrus What kind of Ludicrous?

Magisch

:35449326 > Finally, a serious error has occurred. Before the installation may be wrong, resulting in re-installation has been unsuccessful, to the last step will always rollback operation, resulting in the installation failed

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, repeated URL at end of long post, blacklisted user: soundcloudcommunity.org/derma-folia/ by wosu bnsdf on apple.SE

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: Probiotics for Health by Lkisr Sarib on drupal.SE

tpu- by Magisch

tpu- by angussidney on http://soundcloudcommunity.org/derma-folia/ [MS]

Yvette Colomb

@Magisch wrong post, I thought it was another one

Cerbrus

@Magisch No, why?

Mithrandir

10:39

14 hours ago, by ArtOfCode

Max flags is up at 3.

Magisch

@Cerbrus We got permission to run multiple autoflags now

Glorfindel

@ByteCommander it might be worthwhile to blacklist canonsdriver.com

angussidney

It used to be 'who can feedback before Glorfindel or Tripleee', now it's 'who can feedback before this post gets deleted'

8

Yvette Colomb

@angussidney good isn't it? :)

Cerbrus

@Magisch define "multiple autoflags"?

Yvette Colomb

10:40

@Cerbrus means more than one user account can be used to place an auto flag

Cerbrus

As in multiple users may auto-flag the same report?

Glorfindel

Yes

Yvette Colomb

Now 3 accounts can be used

yes

Cerbrus

Sweeeeet </cartman voice>

Magisch

@Cerbrus a post that we're certain is spam will have the system cast up to 3 flags against it without our input

angussidney

10:41

@Cerbrus instead of only casting one flag automatically, we cast 3 (1 on workplace and english)

Yvette Colomb

Previously it was only one account per post

angussidney

@YvetteColomb yup

Magisch

Since then I've been struggling to get to posts before they get deleted

Cerbrus

That explains the rise in my flagging graph

Magisch

Most autoflagged posts dont even last a minute

Mithrandir

10:42

15 hours ago, by Pops

How about trying it out at three autoflags instead of the current one, seeing what happens?

Yvette Colomb

I do enjoy destroying spam. It's quite therapeutic

angussidney

New draft of Meta post in markdown here, feedback should go to @Andy or be left in a comment on the gist

11

Glorfindel

@angussidney maximium -> maximum

Mithrandir

!!/test gspot link

SmokeDetector

> Would not be caught for title, body, and username.

angussidney

10:46

@Glorfindel whereabouts?

Glorfindel

last sentence of gist.github.com/AWegnerGitHub/…

tripleee

"But," at the beginning of a sentence is an antipattern -- maybe lose the comma (even though it could be argued that you are using it correctly around a cleft subclause)?

Jan Dvorak

the "single false positive" link question is gathering delete votes. Should the link be changed to point to a screenshot?

Mithrandir

@JanDvorak Or metasmoke link, possibly?

tripleee

@JanDvorak +1 and even if the last delete vote doesn't arrive, it will get roomba'd

@Mithrandir yeah, good idea

Jan Dvorak

10:51

@Mithrandir good call. I'll be glad the finish the question off afterwards.

Mithrandir

metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/post/56831

^autoflag fp metasmoke link

tripleee

@Mithrandir brilliant minds think alike, I was just doing the same thing

can we manually tell Metasmoke that the post was deleted, just this once?

once it is, of course

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title: ://brainfireadvice.com/oasis-dermassence-skincare/ by LeslieShortridge on drupal.SE

tpu- by Mithrandir

Jan Dvorak

@tripleee bam

Mithrandir

Feb 10 at 22:56, by SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title: What IDE options do we have, to choose from, when we are working in a software company in India? by Zakstar on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)

Yvette Colomb

10:56

what's that for ^^

Glorfindel

that's the autoflagged FP

Mithrandir

For links

Yvette Colomb

k

DavidPostill

It was autoflagged using my account. Luckily I manged to spot it and remove my flag before it was declined/disputed.

I have since upped my flag threshold :)

Glorfindel

Once it's possible to retract flags via the API, we should probably let MS retract the flags if it receives a (non-contested) FP feedback.

Mithrandir

10:59

I just went and checked what my threshhold was, since I forgot. ...175.

Yvette Colomb

Yep I had an auto flag on an naa. My auto flag has been upped since then

this was autoflagged, but it has a score of 261. It was deleted as being v low qual I suspect

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title, repeated URL at end of long post: supplementschoice.com/alpha-prime-elite/ by muadhalhusainhajjar on apple.SE

tpu- by Glorfindel

tripleee

RFC1 says maximum two autoflags, should that be changed and if so do we have a consensus what the threshold should really be?

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title: slimatrexnorway.com/retinolla/ by user139162 on graphicdesign.SE

tpu- by Mithrandir

tripleee

> The number of automatic flags would be limited to 1/3 of the automatic system removal of a post (currently 6 flags total, limiting the system to two automatic flags per post). RFC 1

SmokeDetector

11:03

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted username, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, repeated URL at end of long post: it has become more difficult for people living in the present age by tinger juriya on security.SE

tpu- by Glorfindel

Mithrandir

@SmokeDetector k

Glorfindel

@tripleee I vote to change that to min(# of flags needed to nuke - 1, # of flags approved by a CM)

Cerbrus

tripleee

there's a couple of places, I can suggest once I know what the suggestion should be

Cerbrus

Is it me or is that tooltip incomplete?

tripleee

11:05

I see that too

J F

@CaffeineAddiction Fixed (pending cache invalidation).

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link following arrow in body, pattern-matching website in body: Good Natual Skin Care For You by carldowels on apple.SE

Cerbrus

Oh, @JF: you're the one we need to ping for that right?

SmokeDetector

tpu- by Floern

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title: www.supplementoffers.org/test-boost-elite/ by konchie diaz on graphicdesign.SE

tpu- by tripleee

tripleee

Fastest Gun in the West got a lot more challenging!

SmokeDetector

11:12

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Repeating characters in body: How to setup magento facebook login with facebook app create and configure step by step? by Emam Mahadi on magento.SE

J F

@Cerbrus Yes.

SmokeDetector

fp- by Ashish Ahuja

J F

@Andy The stats about spam flag accuracy are duplicated (What are we doing and What are our safety checks).

Here’s a better screenshot for the last graph:

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: True Skin Instant Wrinkle Formula by Arecioxld on apple.SE

tpu- by J F

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer, no whitespace in answer, repeating characters in answer: Cannot sign in (login) to Magento 2 admin by Patel Jignesh on magento.SE

tpu- by Mithrandir

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: How Do I Activate 4G LTE Only On Samsung Galaxy A5(2016) by Bayur News on android.SE

tpu- by J F

naa- by Mithrandir

Yvette Colomb

@Mithrandir it links to the poster's website, it's spam

Mithrandir

11:22

@YvetteColomb Looks like it was just a signature, the point was to provide the link, which is NAA....

DavidPostill

Blog spam

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: Alpha prime elite first procedur by ktqw bnsdf on apple.SE

Yvette Colomb

@Mithrandir It's a spam link. The username, signature and link

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title: www.supplementschoice.com/alpha-prime-elite/ by user64560 on workplace.SE

tpu- by Jan Dvorak on Alpha prime elite first procedur [MS]

tpu- by J F

J F

What do you think about adding InstantClick (or something similar) to the charcoal-se.org website?

SmokeDetector

11:24

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, pattern-matching website in body: All the medications or items should be by user225070 on apple.SE

tpu- by J F

Mithrandir

@SmokeDetector k

DavidPostill

@YvetteColomb What's even worse is the website is in Indonesian ...

Mithrandir

I changed my flag

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body: testomenix develops the stamina and your sexual execution by Mourp1987 on apple.SE

tpu- by J F

Yvette Colomb

@DavidPostill I actually understand that comment. I detest it when it's in a foreign language. Really annoys me for some reason. I guess because they're spamming from an English site

English as in language

M.A.R.

11:27

Throwing @Kyll

2

Kyll

flyiiiiiing

4

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body: Luminescent Serum wasn't all purpose by kyaussezali on apple.SE

tpu- by J F

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: testosterone and different hormones? by kirpenijibond on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)

tpu- by Glorfindel

Mithrandir

@SmokeDetector k

J F

I’ll work on the AIM script this afternoon (night UTC).

@SmokeDetector k

Mithrandir

@SmokeDetector You're making my country look bad. Stop.

Glorfindel

11:36

@JF great, seeing that I have little free programming time myself this week.

Cerbrus

@JF So, basically, that flag tooltip seems incomplete. Is that a (known) bug?

J F

@Cerbrus Yes (see my last message).

Cerbrus

Oh right :D

DavidPostill

@Cerbrus Yes. It needs a page refresh to display correctly.

J F

afk

Cerbrus

11:38

@DavidPostill Ah, yea, then it works indeed

Magisch

@Kyll Are we going to make Kyll throwing an organized thing again?

Hello Loong

Cerbrus

*Throwss Kyll in a random direction* Good luck, @Magisch.

Yvette Colomb

tosses @Kyll back to socvr, sprays deodoriser in this room :D

@Magisch definitely. Just constant. Kicking, as in a football also works, as does slapping him with the fish @tunaki :D

Jan Dvorak

Just don't use a shark. He might jump over it and then the room would lose its charm.

Yvette Colomb

@JanDvorak yeh true that and @rene would be in one awful mood cleaning up the blood O>O

SmokeDetector

11:49

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Artificial grass is made of plastic Will it catch fire? by ChesterErickson on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)

tpu- by Glorfindel

Glorfindel

^ worst spam setup ever?

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported question: Artificial grass is made of plastic Will it catch fire? by rock_smith on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)

tpu- by Mithrandir

Yvette Colomb

@Glorfindel yeh, or a troll

I believe this should be flagged as rude and abusive of the site's TOS. It seems like a troll to me — Yvette Colomb 45 secs ago

Byte Commander

flagged

Mithrandir

gone

Yvette Colomb

11:54

@ByteCommander hello user with the avatar I like to think of as a fish :D

See it looks like a fish when it's little

hmmmmmmmm I jsut realised that everyone else here can see that lololololololol

Talk about redundancy

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in answer: Comment form not showing up without comments by Shashank on wordpress.SE

tpu- by Yvette

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Repeating characters in answer: Simple quiz program by fgedsth on codereview.SE

Mithrandir

@YvetteColomb ...It's not actually a fish? o_O

SmokeDetector

tpu- by Glorfindel

Yvette Colomb

@Mithrandir no not at all

Byte Commander

@YvetteColomb wat? it's supposed to be a wolf...

Mithrandir

11:57

Oh, it's a wolf

Yvette Colomb

bu me posting a screen shot of it, when everyone can see it means, I need to go to bed lol

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Repeating characters in answer: Is distinguishability based on the empirical fact of the distribution or is the distribution derived from distinguishability? by Hamoun on physics.SE

Yvette Colomb

no it's not a wofl lol

SmokeDetector

naa- by Mithrandir

Byte Commander

@Mithrandir rofl-wofl?

SmokeDetector

11:58

tpu- by Yvette

Yvette Colomb

I like to think of you as a cute little fish Byte

Byte Commander

blub blub...

M.A.R.

Byte's avatar's small version looked like a ligature of f to me.

Yvette Colomb

I do like wolves and wofls :D

Byte Commander

> My profile picture is derived from "Wolf Tribals" by user HaskDitex (DeviantArt.com), which is under creative Commons 3.0 License.

Yvette Colomb

11:59

well see how the bottom looks like a little tail

@M.A.R. and @CaffeineAddiction your avatars make me think of both of you when I see one of you

Byte Commander

Yeah, I see what you mean. It's still a wofl :P

Yvette Colomb

Dam I need to learn how to speak english in a much better way

@ByteCommander ikr lolol

Magisch

@YvetteColomb Isn't english your native language

Yvette Colomb

@Magisch yep, that's why it's a worry lolololol

Byte Commander

xD

Yvette Colomb

12:02

hey Mags are you ever going to add me on fb?

M.A.R.

@Magisch I guess a lot of native speakers of English do still need to speak English in a better way

Yvette Colomb

any of the regulars on here are welcome to add me. Just let me know your username on here. I'm on fb with quite a few people from here

Byte Commander

I am not. At all.

Yvette Colomb

@ByteCommander hehe

@ByteCommander adding me on fb? on fb? or a native English speaker?

:D

Byte Commander

not on fb

Yvette Colomb

12:04

@M.A.R. mean you what this by?

Byte Commander

and not native English either

Yvette Colomb

@ByteCommander many sensible productive people are not

@ByteCommander well your English is eggcellent :D

Do not learn from me, please

Byte Commander

blushes

Magisch

@YvetteColomb I haven't used my FB in 5 years

DavidPostill

@Magisch @YvetteColomb Strine is not English :)

Yvette Colomb

12:06

@Magisch well if you use it, you can see all the pics of my pets. Lots of horses, cats and a dog (plus my kids)

@DavidPostill I'll pay that. Well done Dave me mate (speekun ozzie now)

DavidPostill

> Australian English began to diverge from British English after the founding of the Colony of New South Wales in 1788 and was recognised as being different from British English by 1820. It arose from the intermingling of early settlers from a great variety of mutually intelligible dialectal regions of the British Isles and quickly developed into a distinct variety of English.

Australian English differs from other varieties of English in vocabulary, accent, pronunciation, register, grammar and spelling.

Yvette Colomb

I just saw that you're from England @DavidPostill. I hope you still don't see us as convicts lolol and you post that

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Making a standard normal distribution in R by ジョナサンJONJAV on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)

Yvette Colomb

@DavidPostill ikr! It's superior

SmokeDetector

tpu- by Yvette

Yvette Colomb

12:09

It is the ops own site @sd

M.A.R.

@YvetteColomb (/¯◡ ‿ ◡)/¯ ~ ┻━┻ Ending a sentence a preposition isn't a bad thing in

Magisch

@YvetteColomb I'm really not a social network guy

I don't have twitter or instagram either

Yvette Colomb

@M.A.R. precisely by that I know what your meaning is and

@Magisch pft pish pash, you're here! lol

DavidPostill

@YvetteColomb That's yoda speak :)

Magisch

This is about as far away as I can get from "social" in a network

Yvette Colomb

12:11

@DavidPostill yoda speak maybe is it

@Magisch in a social network not far away are you in and not

SmokeDetector

fp- by Glorfindel

Anonymous

@SmokeDetector f

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title, repeated URL at end of long post, blacklisted user: supplementstest.org/alpha-prime-elite/ by qgju bnsdf on apple.SE

tpu- by Yvette

Yvette Colomb

omg! I not only got to place a flag, but it gave feedback in here! Star this, pin it now!

3

SmokeDetector

12:40

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body: Dermafolia incredible moisturized might be the individuals cardinal by user64564 on workplace.SE

tpu- by Glorfindel

Magisch

Spam question was posted 2017-02-15 12:40:11Z and deleted by spam flags 2017-02-15 12:40:26Z

We just nuked some spam in 15 seconds

15 seconds after posting, mind you

Jan Dvorak

We're slow

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: Encounter it and get activated Thing by Fratte1934 on apple.SE

tpu- by Glorfindel

Magisch

3 Flags from present room members, 3 auto flags

Less then 20 seconds total

That was brutal

tripleee

my browser is too slow, it was still loading images when the post was deleted

Glorfindel

12:48

@tripleee one of the advantages of having 200 reputation points on Ask Different.

Byte Commander

what does that have to do with 200rep?

Glorfindel

@ByteCommander no topbar ads

tripleee

@ByteCommander removes superfluous images i.e. ads

Byte Commander

uBlock Origin.

Simply that.

DavidPostill

@ByteCommander +1

tripleee

12:49

actually earning the missing 60 or so rep is within my reach on that particular site

Mithrandir

...or install an adblocker...

Byte Commander

Unless growing bio apples will get on-topic on that site too, I'll probably never earn those 100 extra points at Ask Different

Glorfindel

@ByteCommander thanks, I'll give it a try.

Mithrandir

@ByteCommander remove 50 thanks

Byte Commander

I also use Disconnect, NoScript, PrivacyBadger (although that one annoys me)...

@Mithrandir what?

Glorfindel

12:53

@ByteCommander suggested edits

DavidPostill

@ByteCommander Make 50 edits

Mithrandir

@ByteCommander ^

That's what I'm doing on SO

Byte Commander

Ah.

Too ~~lazy~~ busy.

Magisch

I keep forgetting not all of us are devs

Mithrandir

I joined SE for Harry Potter.

SmokeDetector

13:05

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, repeated URL at end of long post: It additionally reduces the formation by Dermafolia on meta.SE

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in answer: Many authentication failed logins for "good" users by Tammy on serverfault.com

Byte Commander

@SmokeDetector k

rene

@YvetteColomb Blood! Where?

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer: What are cloud-based alternatives to Google Fusion Tables? by halkawt on gis.SE

tpu- by Glorfindel

Anonymous

@SmokeDetector rude

Mithrandir

@SmokeDetector k

SmokeDetector

13:13

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, repeated URL at end of long post: Dermcos Dermafolia Clinic is a dedicated beauty or scientific by Dermafolia skin on meta.SE

tpu- by Glorfindel

rene

@Mithrandir I didn't know Harry Potter was an user on the SE Network ...

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in body: Support your back properly in the back by papagxppi on apple.SE

Mithrandir

@SmokeDetector k

Glorfindel

sigh

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title, repeated URL at end of long post: www.oralhealthplus.com/test-boost-elite-reviews/ by zovagojo on graphicdesign.SE

tpu- by Glorfindel

Mithrandir

13:24

HarryJamesPotter27

1 1

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer: What does enumerate mean? by Barry allen on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)

tpu- by Glorfindel

rene

@Mithrandir :D

Andy

@angussidney, has there been a discussion about your questions on the gist? I started scrolling back, but the room was busy over night.

Glorfindel

@Andy not much.

Andy

To answer them quickly:

- I used the metasmoke.charcoal-se.org links because those already existed in the Google doc, and I assumed there were there so that Undo's domain wouldn't be posted on meta
- There is a sign up link still in the post. ;) It'd the word "enabled"
- Where to post: Still up in the air, but I believe we were leaning toward MSO
- When post: I think this depends on who posts
- Who posts: I'd prefer an established SO user. Undo is a good choice though the diamond there may make it more authoritative than we want (or not, since Natty's post on MSO was also by a diamond). I'…

Glorfindel

13:32

@Andy not much, only (roughly) the first page after the pinned message.

Cerbrus

Wouldn't it be an idea to use SD's account as an proxy for posts like these?

Andy

@Glorfindel Must be just over that then. That's about where I stopped scrolling back. shakes fist at self Laziness!

Cerbrus

(Obvious issue of SD's low rep aside)

Andy

@Cerbrus No. Smokey is a known bot, a known bot of a mod, and was recently associated with sockpuppetting. I'd prefer it remain "just a bot" for the purposes of this announcement

Cerbrus

and was recently associated with sockpuppetting

tripleee

13:35

I guess with my 62k rep on SO that puts me amongst the "established" here ...?

Cerbrus

lame.

Andy

@tripleee I'd hope so. I've got a whole 22K and was considering myself established

Glorfindel

23

A: How should a bot earn enough reputation to perform the actions necessary for that bot?

I think it's stupid. Of course, I'm not a big fan of bounties under any circumstances... But abusing the sandbox to get rep into a sockpuppet while preventing others from using it for its intended purpose is pretty clearly not a purpose bounties were ever intended to serve... Same goes for Prote...

@Andy same here with 14k (though >50k MSO 'reputation')

tripleee

@Glorfindel that's impressive

Glorfindel

@tripleee call it an addiction. Until I discovered Charcoal HQ :)

SmokeDetector

13:38

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Mostly non-Latin answer: What's the difference between "URIEncoding" of Tomcat ,Encoding Filter and request.setCharacterEncoding by chensibo on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)

Cerbrus

Hm, looking at Undo's related answer, the method makes sense

SmokeDetector

naa- by Glorfindel

Glorfindel

@Cerbrus it does, but it did draw too much attention.

Andy

@JF I'll use an updated graph right before it's posted and change the small paragraph underneath to explain the sudden uptick on Feb 14

Cerbrus

Three times as many flags on valentine's day: Spread the love to all spammers! ❤️

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Mithrandir

13:44

@Cerbrus I suggested that last night. It was shot down.

Jan Dvorak

Spread war, not love

rene

@Andy why are we leaning toward MSO for this to be posted? Is the goal to get more users in?

Mithrandir

@rene no idea, I suggested meta.se

Andy

@rene I believe the idea is more eyes on the post, and we have SO specific stats available.

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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title, repeated URL at end of long post: www.oralhealthplus.com/test-boost-elite-reviews/ by zovagojo on askubuntu.com (@ThomasWard)

tpu- by tripleee

Andy

13:46

It's just a slight leaning, at least as of 6 hours ago when I went to bed

Mithrandir

4 hours ago, by ArtOfCode

the MSO/MSE thing is balancing higher traffic (MSO) against an easier audience (MSE).

Andy

Go to sleep Art!

Mithrandir

I believe he did

Anonymous

@Cerbrus We're giving them some serious LOVE

rene

@Andy I also posted this on the gist but for completeness: What is the question we ask? Approval? Or is it just informing, Do we expect something from readers? If they answer, what would we like to see there?

Mithrandir

13:48

Just an announcement I think

rene

waffles

Andy

@rene I was struggling with a more clear question too. I eventually took from Bhargav Rao's recent post and make it more of an announcement, versus mine where I asked if I could keep doing it. We don't need that here, since the CMs have said we could.

Mithrandir

My joke detector is offline for maintenance. All I know is that words that end with d are funny.

Andy

Suggestions?

Magisch

@rene essentially we're telling people "Hey, we're doing this, here's how it works" to preclude things like "They're using sockpuppets to coordinate casting flags! ban them!" from happening when uninformed users come across it

Cerbrus

13:50

Make it a happy announcement that we're "spreading more love than ever before".

Andy

@rene As for what to expect from readers, I'd love to see anything from "You can't do this! It's unhuman! Bots are bad!" (provided they can explain why) to "Wow! This is more amazing than the wheel!"

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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in body, repeating characters in body: gbdfghdfhfghdfghdghgdfgh by Super Boy on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)

Cerbrus

(I'm quite excited that this is working this well)

Anonymous

@SmokeDetector v

Cerbrus

sd vandalism

Mithrandir

13:50

@SmokeDetector v

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Repeating characters in title, title has only one unique char: eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee by Super Boy on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)

Mithrandir

@SmokeDetector v

Cerbrus

Hm, his profile says "Delete me"

Anonymous

@SmokeDetector v

Andy

rene makes a good point though. This isn't an official "announcement" post, because the new tag seems to be geared toward usage by Stack Exchange employees. Right now the post I have ends with the quote below, but doesn't actually ask anything. To keep it on topic for meta (any meta), I think we need to. Suggestions?

> We are confident in SmokeDetector and the three years of history it has. We have had many talented developers assist us over the years and many more users provide feedback to improve our detection rules. If you have questions, please let us know. We'll have Charcoal members hanging around and answering your questions. Alternatively, feel free to drop into Charcoal HQ and have a chat.

Cerbrus

13:55

@Andy Make sure "Charcoal HQ" is a link, of course

Jan Dvorak

Nah, keep the question implied.

Andy

It is. I just copy/pasted the test into here

rene

maybe something like: Let us know where you want us to elaborate on, features you're wondering about or would like to see added or things we might have missed in the process or the tooling.

Cerbrus

@rene waffles

rene

lekker

SmokeDetector

13:59

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer: python: can executable zip files include data files? by Luke Timbrell on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)

Byte Commander

@SmokeDetector n

Cerbrus

sd n

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