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4:10 PM
@SmokeDetector Why isn't this one a link?
 
@Andy That's not a report.
 
Thanks.
 
No link means no SE OAuth
 
4:21 PM
@doppelgreener nope, we're waiting for @Undo to get a job as a spammer
 
gainful employment!
 
^21 jobs listed as a "spamming job"
Changing it to "spammer" gets 56.
 
New metasmoke user 'Geoff Hutchison' created
 
@Mithrandir one of them is at Amazon...
@Mithrandir no, its 21 with the word spamming in the decription...
And I checked a few, and they all seem like legitimate jobs.
 
@ArtOfCode !!!
 
4:30 PM
Hmmm?
 
I see you have a new friend.
 
Can I assume this has something to do with Squidge?
 
... maybe.
 
kinda sorta :)
 
what is this
 
4:35 PM
chaos?
!!/location
 
@ThomasWard teward/Lunar Eclipse
 
Ahaha, you were on Charcoal HQ
 
Walked downstairs this morning and there was a package by the letterbox
 
blub? blub blub!
2
 
@ArtOfCode Are you going with Spike or are you still considering?
 
4:37 PM
Definitely Spike :)
 
!!
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, link following arrow in body, +1 more: ADVERTISEMENT of Total Radiance Teeth Whitening Pen !~! by Minat 19 on workplace.SE
tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs
 
@SmokeDetector So... I guess it's nice of them to start the title with "ADVERTISEMENT"?
 
@SmokeDetector whoa nice
 
!!/test advertisement
 
4:38 PM
> Would not be caught as a post, title or username.
 
@Catija honesty is very important in the job
 
Also... @Art why isn't CHQ one of your favorite rooms?
 
I don't use favorite rooms
 
@M.A.R. Someone you know from Chemistry?
 
Used to, don't any more
 
4:39 PM
@ArtOfCode why?
 
I only favorite rooms because it makes them easy to find in the app... otherwise it's a headache.
 
I only favorite so I can join a zillion rooms at once
 
...when you frequent 30 rooms they're kinda necessary...
 
@M.A.R. because all the rooms I regularly use are on browser autocomplete. I just type c and the address for CHQ autocompletes
 
Language learning chat is not even active
@ArtOfCode pfft, so what
So are mine
 
4:41 PM
@ArtOfCode I love favorites!!! they make things so easy
 
I feel a distinctive urge to use Aye in this discussion at some point
 
aye
 
actual footage of Undo leaked:
 
@WELZ site favorites suck though
 
Squidge is on holiday. Instead, the resident programmer dog would like to make an appearance.
 
4:42 PM
Why?
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with a link in answer, pattern-matching website in answer, potentially bad keyword in answer: curl: option -: is unknown by arnold eagle on askubuntu.com
tpu- by ArtOfCode
 
There's also a reindeer that would like to make an appearance on Twitter at some point
 
@ArtOfCode So you don't have it as your homepage?
 
@Ferrybig I don't have a homepage
Chrome's set to re-open where I left off
and that's only if I ever close it :P
 
@ArtOfCode aha
 
4:46 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, link following arrow in body, +1 more: Will a Total Radiance Teeth Whitening Pen Whitening Pen Execute for You? by Minat 19 on superuser.com
tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs
 
Why did FIRE say "Backoff Received"?
never seen that before
 
forwarded from metasmoke
If metasmoke gets a backoff from the API when it flags it passes that on to scripts
 
What's a backoff?
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer, repeating characters in answer: Error message 'sudo: unable to resolve host <USER>' by Dark_Byt3 on askubuntu.com
 
@ThomasWard You probably got a few "haironfire" mails because MS was having disk space issues again today
 
4:50 PM
@Tinkeringbell the API saying "AAAHHH TOO MUCH DATA"
 
@Tinkeringbell something the StackAPI returns if it feels you are asking too much from it in a short timespan: api.stackexchange.com/docs/throttle
 
tpu- by doppelgreener
 
Ah, okay.. I'll try to keep up with the reading :)
 
@Ferrybig haven't gotten any yet.
unless it's being captured as spam
 
I didn't get any either
 
4:57 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Phone number detected in answer: Customer Service Hub business process flow issue on Case entity by Rayan Thomas on stackoverflow.com
 
i don't think that triggers hair on fire does it, @ArtOfCode?
 
shouldn't do, no
hair on fire is when our hair is literally on fire and there are no smokeys
 
right
 
@K.Dᴀᴠɪs Because I never told fire to properly handle backoff "errors"
 
@SmokeDetector k
 
5:00 PM
@SmokeDetector k
 
!!/watch techugs\.com
 
@Glorfindel Added techugs\.com to watchlist
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in body: Python requests.post login showing 404 while url does exists by imad imad on stackoverflow.com
 
sd f
but kinda shady
 
i was about to say... :P
 
shady indeed
 
5:02 PM
@Undo got a minute for an MS deploy?
 
CI on f6dc83d succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...
[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev f6dc83d (SmokeDetector: Auto watch of techugs\.com by Glorfindel --autopull) (running on teward/Lunar Eclipse)
 
@ArtOfCode yes, don't know if laptop has battery
 
Restart: API quota is 12988.
 
@Undo actually?
the first link there is fiverr.com/login
so why is that website blacklisted
 
fiverr is blacklisted because people keep spamming their spammy services
 
5:03 PM
(in theory the link part could be 'spam', but...)
 
LOL
 
@ArtOfCode ah, well, given that they have a direct link to fiverr.com/login it could be spammyish
might need someone to go revise it.
 
"i am web devloper hear me roar pay me mony"
 
@ArtOfCode Where can I provide CC information?
 
"i build you 5 dolla website you get 5 dolla quality"
 
5:04 PM
please give me a login link to enter my details
make it 6 you getz a dealz
 
You drive a hard bargain
 
paey me mony, and ill giv u all teh codez
 
@ArtOfCode funnily enough, this works for pushy relatives
"Couldn't you just make a website for my small business? I hear you're good at this"
Sure for 50 eur an hour
 
>>> click here <<< four you're chnc too win an freed vacetn
 
@Magisch yup, and for their bosses too
source: mom's work has many technical problems that employing a pro consultant for would cost $$$$$$
so I said I'd do it for $$$
and that right there is capitalism
 
5:11 PM
flip side, i've actually gotten work this way
turns out hiring a contractor even for basic tech support exceeds 50 eur an hour usually
And turns out people really don't trust geek squad esque services
 
Yup
it was pay something like 10k or hire me for 2k and get basically the same result... guess who got 2k
 
Its frightening just how much being not terribad at computers gets taken for a superpower sometimes
 
@ArtOfCode How about I pay you in "exposure" and you can put it on your resume? Then we both win.
 
If you can't afford to pay me you don't have the clout to give me exposure either
Or, if you do, I'll come to you
 
@Andy Yeah, I think we can make that work. By the way, can you fix my car for 2.99 exposure?
 
5:14 PM
@Magisch This is the problem with the world. Someone thinks you're good and you are called an expert. Then there's me, being all "Yeah, you don't know jack" and I have the years of experience and certifications to back it all up :P
 
Of course! lifts hood Look! The engine is still there. It works just fine.
 
but yeah you're not wrong, @Magisch
 
@ThomasWard right, but I can install a printer and a small network
and I know how to configure a switch
 
@Andy Excellent! About your website... you've got a computer, that's good enough right?
 
@Magisch hence the 'problem' - you 'know' some things, but :p
yeah.
 
5:15 PM
Meanwhile some contractor is over there calling that "advanced network services" charging 200 eur / hr
@ThomasWard Yeah I have like less then 2 years on that shit
 
knowing things that other people don't and being able to charge them money to tell them is called capitalism
 
In the grand scheme of things I'm a junior developer with like 2 years of apprentice experience and no degree
 
@ArtOfCode Must be. Here is your exposure, good sir. Thank you! I'll tell all of my friends and soon you'll have so many things to put on your resume and you'll be able to get a real job.
 
@Andy Yay!
 
somehow the company owners haven't caught on to that yet
And think I'm good at what I do, when in reality I'm only good at frankensteining together whatever I need at the moment
 
5:17 PM
@Magisch I thought you were a chief data protection officer? ;)
 
@Tinkeringbell Yes, since this week
 
Happens so much with music too. 'Can you play at my event for 5 hours and i'll give you a sandwich?'
 
turns out, I have no idea how that works
 
@Magisch No one has...
 
@Henders Yep. I know exactly how that is
 
5:18 PM
I feel like the fraud become dev sometimes
The amount of sheer looking up I have to do on a day-to-day
 
@Magisch To be honest, I think that's basically life.
 
@Magisch I actually do similar work and people think I can fix everything
@Magisch It's about being able to a. know how to look it up. b. know how to use the info provided
which isn't usually that easy
 
stack exchange et al makes it very easy
usually just spelling your problem out to google gets you what you want or at least a pointer to formulate a better question for google which then leads you to what you want
 
I do it every day.
 
for the poorly documented tex stuff I frequently just paste the error messages into google search
 
5:21 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected: PHP/SQL how can I combine 2 requests into one by Alexander S. on stackoverflow.com
 
And there is an entire thread where someone explains what that is and how to fix it
 
fp- by WELZ
 
@SmokeDetector f (repairable)
 
@Glorfindel already repaired
 
5:22 PM
@Magisch TeX StackExchange has probably altered the course of my life a few times
 
@Glorfindel look at my chat message history o.o
 
I swear TeX is so poorly documented
And I've somehow become the guy to make all the reports in my company using TeX
 
@WELZ :P
@quartata did you know it's the site with the highest upvote/downvote ratio?
 
I spent nearly an hour finding out how the \setlength{\tabcolsep} attribute works with a longtable because my calculations for textwidth wasn't adding up
 
@Glorfindel makes sense...
It's like standard politics there lol
 
5:25 PM
TeX is a really friendly community
In an almost creepy way
 
turns out TeX takes the colsep between columns, halves it and applys it on either side of each column, bringing the total amount of tabcolsep to account for in a table from 4.2mm*{number of columns - 1} to 4.2mm * {number of columns}
You'd think that would be mentioned in the docs somewhere
 
That duck guy, the biggest upvoter
 
@Glorfindel I like the Eternal September theory. All the poor little university students finding out Word doesn't cut it anymore
 
He upvotes even bad posts. Geez
 
@M.A.R. according to their profile, it's a she.
And I agree that's an unhealthy ratio ...
 
5:28 PM
Whatever
She's literally the upvote fairy then
 
can we not bad-mouth other users too much, we've already gotten in trouble for that a bit
 
TeX is lucky to be the topic helpless people who want money and people who want their homework done usually don't mess around with
 
@M.A.R. metaphorically
 
Or the site would have been math.SE times ten
@JohnDvorak no. Literally.
@quartata I didn't badmouth anyone
badmouthing @quart
 
5:33 PM
you're critiquing their upvotes, I don't think it's really very nice
 
@M.A.R. How can you tell that?
 
:43267866 Let's not, thanks :)
8 mins ago, by quartata
can we not bad-mouth other users too much, we've already gotten in trouble for that a bit
 
@terdon there was this meta post . . . Well, I actually liked their spirit despite its weirdness
So well, I'm dropping this before it turns out into REAL badmouthing
@JohnDvorak is that something about a "literally" pedant?
The only more annoying argument is whether something is ironic or not
 
That's a part of it. It also criticizes the use of letters as words and such
 
@JohnDvorak Oh Em Gee
 
5:42 PM
Like what Alanis Morisette said was ironic but wasn't?
 
What did he say? Wasn't listening
 
fp- by Glorfindel
 
@SmokeDetector F
 
I would say naa
 
5:44 PM
@JohnDvorak is that the guy that wrote the book about ironicity . . . Ironicism?
 
nope. It was the "like rain on your wedding day" female singer.
 
@WELZ Shrug dunno whether video.SE tolerates them
 
@WELZ the question literally asks "Is there any free or cheap tool I can use that will do this?"
 
@JohnDvorak That is NOT ironic!
 
@M.A.R. and yet she said it was
 
5:45 PM
@Glorfindel meh
 
@JohnDvorak Ugh...
 
> It's like ten thousand spoons when all you need is a knife
That's not ironic, that's just a really weird kitchen... or an expensive prank.
 
@JohnDvorak Blasphemy!!1!
 
I'm glad you agree
 
Well, some folks interpret "ironic" as "unfortunate"
It's just stupid
Ha, here's an ironic statement from ParaNorman: "My dog was ran over by an animal rescue van"
 
5:49 PM
:(
 
New metasmoke user 'AtheistP3ace' created
 
@JohnDvorak You could actually call that ironic. It's the day you expected everything to be perfect and instead it was awful.
> 3 a (1) : incongruity between the actual result of a sequence of events and the normal or expected result (2) : an event or result marked by such incongruity
 
@Undo it was one of those hairless doggies. And the protagonist can see dead puppies. Don't worry
 
Are you a hairlessist?
 
@terdon when you put it that way . . . The unexpectedness didn't come to me
@JohnDvorak and the dog's ghost was cut in half
 
5:51 PM
oh, okay then
 
Sorry, I'm as bad a pedant as @Randal'Thor is.
 
@terdon whoa, no one can be that bad. Good. BadGood
This is important. We should have am ice bucket pedantry challenge to determine the champion
 
Never apologize for being a pedant
 
@JohnDvorak nice, good slogan for the challenge
 
Why is it called an ice bucket, though? It's made of non-ice and it mostly contains non-ice.
 
5:55 PM
How does dumping Ice on your head prove how much of a pedant you are?
 
@JohnDvorak Nevah! Though I do sometimes apologize for spreading my pedantry around.
@M.A.R. Ice bucket? Are you insane? Let him win!
 
Gladly.
Or we can have the challenge in the summer. In Greece.
 
tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs
 
@DJMcMayhem It proves that you are willing to suffer senselessly just to get minor advantage in a discussion that might not even happen.
 
5:57 PM
@SmokeDetector Poor guy thinks money.SE is for classified ads
That was deleted quickly with just one of us flagging. Mod probably picked it up
 

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