Charcoal HQ

12:01 AM

Why would a mod get Routing Error: No route matches [GET] "/spammers/site/228/update" when trying to update metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/spammers ?

ArtOfCode

@terdon JS disabled

terdon

Ah!

Also, how do I get someone unblacklisted?

NH.

!!/test asodifjes

SmokeDetector

> Would not be caught as a post, title or username.

quartata

@terdon use !!/rmblu <link>

NH.

12:03 AM

!!/test buy this product now!

SmokeDetector

> Would not be caught as a post, title or username.

New metasmoke user 'Nick Gammon' created

terdon

There's a regular on U&L who posted something silly (nothing offensive, just a placeholder for a stupid FGITW post) and is now blacklisted. The user isn't a spammer and has posted loads of good content.

WELZ

link?

terdon

@quartata Where <link> is the user's profile on the site?

quartata

Yep yep

terdon

12:03 AM

!!/rmblu unix.stackexchange.com/users/80216/g-man

ArtOfCode

@terdon yup, !!/rmblu <profile link> or feed back f to the report

SmokeDetector

@terdon User is not blacklisted.

quartata

well there you go

ArtOfCode

Likely already de-blacklisted by an FP feedback

quartata

that sort of thing doesn't stick on the blacklists for very long

terdon

12:04 AM

Hmm. Thanks @ArtOfCode, @quartata. I guess they've already been unblacklisted, but the original report remained. Cool.

quartata

The reports always stick around. You'd see a notification here if one was ever destroyed (for auditing purposes)

I'm probably still on some instance's blacklist

ArtOfCode

Yup, FP feedbacks on all that user's posts

quartata

I do a lot of test posts for debugging

terdon

Yeah, I see three cases of users I'm confident aren't spammers. But all three posted stuff that should have gotten them blacklisted, so no problem there.

NH.

is this a charcoal-specific blacklist I assume?

quartata

12:08 AM

Yes. Specifically the user blacklist

terdon

!!/rmblu unix.stackexchange.com/users/235018/c0t0d0s0

SmokeDetector

@terdon User is not blacklisted.

terdon

Damn. You're too efficient! :P

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

!!/test terdon

SmokeDetector

> Would not be caught as a post, title or username.

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

12:10 AM

:)

terdon

That's a relief!

SmokeDetector

New metasmoke user 'Seth' created

Catija

Does MS work the way SE works... users are based on UIDs rather than UNs, so there can be multiple users with the same UN?

ArtOfCode

Yep

SmokeDetector

API quota rolled over with 7772 requests remaining. Current quota: 19999.

math: 847
stackoverflow: 497
superuser: 142
physics: 107
serverfault: 101
codegolf: 96
askubuntu: 68
english: 63
apple: 51
unix: 46
es.stackoverflow: 45
travel: 41
gis: 41
drupal: 38
gaming: 37
electronics: 36
salesforce: 31
security: 28
academia: 27
rpg: 26
dba: 25
bitcoin: 25
graphicdesign: 24
ell: 22
wordpress: 22
meta: 22
mathoverflow.net: 21
android: 20
worldbuilding: 19
stats: 18
money: 18
mathematica: 18
softwareengineering: 18
interpersonal: 18
ethereum: 18
workplace: 16
ru.stackoverflow: 16

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in body: Feedback the cheat and fraud of etc eth on twitter. How can i recover my loss? by sinoory sin on ethereum.SE

New metasmoke user 'NoOneIsHere' created

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

12:25 AM

New metasmoke user 'SomeOneIsThough' created

SmokeDetector

Restart: API quota is 19919.

WELZ

!!/blame᠎ ‍‍‌‌

SmokeDetector

@WELZ It's Steve Jobs's fault.

WELZ

yep

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in body: Feedback the cheat and fraud of etc eth on twitter. How can i recover my loss? by sinoory sin on ethereum.SE

quartata

12:43 AM

@SmokeDetector huh... @Seth didn't you already have an account

Seth

@quartata I did, but when I stared at the login boxes I couldn't remember my creds. So I opted for the nice big easy "SSO" button instead :P

I've since found my original account however.

quartata

yeah you've got MS ID 8

would be a shame to lose a single digit account ID :P

Seth

@quartata ikr :P

I'm still surprised I somehow ended up with that number. I figured I was much later to the metasmoke account thingy. But I guess not! xD

ArtOfCode

I believe you signed up to help us go through the 10k-strong review queue

quartata

wonder what sentinel is at

SmokeDetector

12:50 AM

fp- by DraconicPenguin

Conflicting feedback across revisions: current, #1

quartata

By the way Art did you review BotController#update_from_json yet? You can probably tell it's bugging me how ugly it is :P

I think I showed it to you in a gist when we were talking about jbuilder before

Rob

@Undo If you're interested in a smokey userscript. I've got something similar. Feel free to take some of the code here if you're not keen on writing it from scratch

quartata

nice

SmokeDetector

New metasmoke user 'music2myear' created

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer, no whitespace in answer, repeating characters in answer: Why can't spaceships go underwater? by plasticroyal on worldbuilding.SE

naa- by thesecretmaster

New metasmoke user 'Harshal Gangurde' created

Seth

1:09 AM

anyone know if any work was done to see if/how many human flags were cast on smokey fp's?

Makyen

@ArtOfCode @Undo IMO, NAA feedback on an autoflagged post should trigger a similar in-room message from MS as we see when an FP feedback is posted.

SmokeDetector

tpu- by doppelgreener

ArtOfCode

I believe it does

@Seth don't think it has, but we have data on it

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

@SmokeDetector @ArtOfCode nope

Makyen

The above example, and one I noticed yesterday, indicates that it does not.

ArtOfCode

1:10 AM

fair enough, agree that it should

Seth

@ArtOfCode that'd be an interesting thing to look at and would help answer some of the questions on the MSE post

SmokeDetector

Conflicting feedback across revisions: current, #1

ArtOfCode

@Seth 8 manual flags cast on autoflagged FPs through Charcoal systems, ever

Seth

@ArtOfCode That's not bad. That's still 8 deleted posts with the 5 flag system though

or do the flags also scale with threshold?

quartata

They do

That's probably the biggest misunderstanding here

There are no FPs at the threshold we want to cast 5 flags

ArtOfCode

1:14 AM

Lemme pull that data on posts above 300 weight

0

No flags on autoflagged FPs above 300 weight cast through Charcoal systems, ever.

Seth

That's good.

I think there is a lot of confusion around how autoflagging works.

WELZ

oh yeh.... tell me 'bout it

Seth

As you can see, I don't even understand all of it. And I think I follow the project more than most ordinary users (not nearly as much as some of you though haha)

@WELZ I think it might be contributing to some of the concerns expressed in the meta post

Makyen

@quartata But people can't see that because A) The 5-flag proposal is specifically worded to not be that 5-flags will only be on high threshold posts, and B) the data available on the dashboard, and elsewhere on MS, is always for all autoflagged posts, without any ability to separately see data based on thresholds.

ArtOfCode

So... so far, I'm not seeing any blocking issues. A bunch of suggestions, a bunch of people asking about bot accounts, some procedural questions, and a lot of "be careful about unilateral last-flag nukes". But no "the very premise of this idea is fundamentally flawed and you need to reconsider your life choices".

doppelgreener

1:25 AM

@ArtOfCode the very premise of this idea is fundamentally flawed and you need to reconsider your life choices

(it's fine)

ArtOfCode

silently deletes

doppelgreener

@ArtOfCode hahaha!

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

@ArtOfCode Don't give MSE any ideas

Makyen

@ArtOfCode Well... ah... The latter would be an accurate description of the, now deleted, SFF answer.

ArtOfCode

Yeah... given Shog's reaction to that, I'm discounting it.

Makyen

1:30 AM

That's understandable, given the... reasoning... displayed. OTOH, it clearly shows that there are a number of people who do feel that way (it had quite a few up-votes, just more down-votes)

ArtOfCode

Yup. As always, if people want it off on their site, fine, but they do have to be reasonable about it

Undo

@ArtOfCode If you're talking about the SFF answer... that was fun

quartata

no actually that was pretty unfun

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] No whitespace in body: Como abrir fragmenEt by bela cris on pt.stackoverflow.com

Undo

@ArtOfCode Honestly, if they're unreasonable about it... Fine. As long as it's not a big site, I'm not inclined to hold them against their will and take flak for it.

SmokeDetector

1:44 AM

tp- by thesecretmaster

Undo

I will, as terdon said, fight like hell to show them it's a bad idea. But I won't prevent you from making an informed bad decision.

@quartata That episode gave me some confidence for the future. Their meta caught on when it became clear there was no basis and started downvoting that answer and upvoting Andy

bwDraco

!!/allspam superuser.com/users/879256/carol-davidson

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer (batch report: post 1 out of 2): BSOD BAD_POOL_HEADER 0x00000019 by Carol Davidson on superuser.com

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer (batch report: post 2 out of 2): BSOD In Windows 7: BAD_POOL_HEADER error after standby, maybe SSD related? by Carol Davidson on superuser.com

bwDraco

The site looks like a forum, but nearly everything is posted by staff. Also, note prominent service promotion on bottom right corner.

!!/watch errorsolutions\.tech

SmokeDetector

@bwDraco Added errorsolutions\.tech to watchlist

quartata

1:53 AM

@Undo hey, what's the highest weight FP we have?

SmokeDetector

CI on 915fc9b succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev 915fc9b (SmokeDetector: Auto watch of errorsolutions\.tech by bwDraco --autopull) (running on teward/Solar Flare)

Restart: API quota is 19402.

quartata

rand al'thor posted a much more level headed answer

SmokeDetector

fp by quartata on Feedback the cheat and fraud of etc eth on twitter. How can i recover my loss? [MS]

Andy

@Undo Woo! Go meta!

Undo

@quartata Just above 300, IIRC

(yeah, easy to cut out but you lose a lot of volume IIRC)

Makyen

2:10 AM

@quartata Which will get upvotes which will be, at least in part, because it more clearly defines the issues than the question does.

SmokeDetector

tpu by kevin-brown on BSOD BAD_POOL_HEADER 0x00000019 [MS]

tpu by kevin-brown

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted user: How can I get Spotify to play M4A files? by louischristopher on askubuntu.com

fp- by Yvette

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Username similar to website in answer: Is there any openly pro-mortalist philosopher? by Jiwoon Hwang on philosophy.SE

Nog Shine

2:28 AM

@SmokeDetector n

SmokeDetector

tpu- by DraconicPenguin on How can I get Spotify to play M4A files? [MS]

Conflicting feedback on How can I get Spotify to play M4A files?.

bwDraco

Sneaky. Very sneaky.

!!/watch spotify\W?music\W?converter

SmokeDetector

@bwDraco Added spotify\W?music\W?converter to watchlist

CI on 9c5ba91 succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev 9c5ba91 (SmokeDetector: Auto watch of spotify\W?music\W?converter by bwDraco --autopull) (running on teward/Solar Flare)

Restart: API quota is 19226.

Yvette Colomb

@bwDraco you sure? the question asks for it

bwDraco

The question doesn't mention it specifically.

iBug

2:34 AM

Based on the discussions under the meta post, I think a feature would be good

Let Smokey comment on an autoflagged post, so mods can easily know what have been going on.

quartata

Not comment.

As Shog said the last thing we need is trolls knowing

iBug

trolls knowing?

Also, a comment'd be helpful in case an FP is flagged. People can then explain to the author that the system generated a false positive.

Yvette Colomb

!!/watch tunefab\.com

SmokeDetector

@YvetteColomb That pattern looks like it's already caught by Potentially bad keyword in body and Potentially bad keyword in answer; append -force if you really want to do that.

Yvette Colomb

@SmokeDetector ok thanks

SmokeDetector

2:37 AM

tpu- by Yvette on mkv or m4v to dvd [MS]

Yvette Colomb

I think this could do with some spam flags video.stackexchange.com/a/23510/13997

Rand al'Thor

Is there a reason why Smokey doesn't post much outside of chat?

I was thinking that some of these Charcoal Meta Posts might be better off posted on Smokey's account, just to make it crystal clear that the post represents all of Charcoal rather than just Andy or Undo or whoever.

Yvette Colomb

@Randal'Thor well Smokey doesn't exist - as you know - so it's probably better smokes' representatives do the talking. In the posts it can be made clear that Andy or whomever is representing a collection

Besides - whomever is posting on smokes' behalf is still an individual

Rob

@Randal'Thor I think it's good to add a certain level of accountability. Posting it through SD, to me at least, doesn't look as transparent.

Rand al'Thor

Well, it does exist - it must have an account on some site to be able to use chat :-)

Yvette Colomb

2:42 AM

@Rob yep what you said is what I was trying to say - but yours is clearer :)

Rob

@YvetteColomb Also, long time no see! How's things?

Yvette Colomb

@Randal'Thor I know you know it doesn't exist lolol - and yeh - there is an account

@Rob Good thanks! How are you?

Rand al'Thor

@Rob To me it seems more transparent. If the meta post is a joint effort, why not post it under a joint account? And more than that, from the one account which, more than any other, can be seen as really representing Charcoal.

Yvette Colomb

SmokeDetector, https://metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/status

101 1

Rob

@YvetteColomb Same old

Yvette Colomb

2:43 AM

@Randal'Thor look I don't think the site would condone posting under a ~~weed account - joint account~~ failed joke

@Rob no news is good news. I'm almost finished my masters - so happy

Rob

Oh, congrats!

Yvette Colomb

thanks :)

you putting yourself up for mod again?

Rob

Thinking about it, haven't decided yet

You?

Yvette Colomb

yep, always planned to

Rob

Good luck!

Yvette Colomb

2:46 AM

thnx :) I'll keep trying every election :D

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, blacklisted website in body: people see when you were last seen on Google Plus Hangou by user180168 on webapps.SE

tpu- by WELZ

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive title detected: Can I wear a t-shirt that says fuck discrimination to a city or school board meeting by Randy Tetzner on law.SE

fp- by WELZ

WELZ

!!/test cluesforhealth.com

SmokeDetector

> Bad ns for domain in body, bad ns for domain in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title
----------
Title - Position 1-19: cluesforhealth.com
Title - cluesforhealth.com NS suspicious dns1.namecheaphosting.com.,dns2.namecheaphosting.com.
Body - Position 1-19: cluesforhealth.com
Post - cluesforhealth.com NS suspicious dns1.namecheaphosting.com.,dns2.namecheaphosting.com.

SmokeDetector

3:17 AM

New metasmoke user 'Dave Land' created

New metasmoke user 'Elias Nicolas' created

New metasmoke user 'Kolappan Nathan' created

New metasmoke user 'misterManSam' created

Catija

:/

quartata

Hm?

Catija

I'm still waiting on that data about how many new people joined MS today by hour :P

J F

@quartata Some experience.

Haven’t used it in a long time.

I don’t know what the browser support is like

Sorry I’ve been busy IRL recently. Night o/

Yvette Colomb

3:44 AM

@ArtOfCode what do you make of this chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/43229232#43229232?

@quartata oh and yes I am :)

quartata

@JF looks like it doesn't fully support IE9 which is a bummer

I'll have to do some testing

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted username: Python set value for specific key in properties file by Troll on stackoverflow.com

fp- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

tpu- by Yvette

Conflicting feedback on Python set value for specific key in properties file.

Yvette Colomb

@SmokeDetector copy paste of other answer

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

I don't think SD is designed for plagiarism. Should this really be a tpu?

SOBotics has its own tools (Gutenburg?) for this purpose

Yvette Colomb

@SmokeDetector I've deleted the tpu, but honestly - the person has announced that they're a troll and we'll see more of this. But we can wait until we see more of this

Rob

3:57 AM

@Catija 46 have joined since the announcement

Catija

@Rob Wow.

Thanks :D

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title: Alibaba Cloud Container Service to Deploy Multiple PHP Projects? by a deleted user on stackoverflow.com

Rob

chat.stackexchange.com/…

'Nog Shine' was the first after the announcement

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

@YvetteColomb you could be correct. Wasn't trying to persuade you either way. Just wanted input on it :)

Rob

@Catija Yeah, I'm surprised at the influx from the meta post. The original meta post didn't seem to generate as many users as now. Or maybe we just didn't have an easy sign up process then

quartata

4:03 AM

Original meta post was like this

I think we got about 100 users?

Nog Shine

@Rob Yes, I am.

SmokeDetector

New metasmoke user 'noob' created

Yvette Colomb

@K.Dᴀᴠɪs I wasn't giving the user the benefit of the doubt - re the username "Troll". That was what was behind my thinking

Rob

@YvetteColomb It ended up getting mod nuked for plagiarism.. not sure whether or not smokey should have TP or NAA for that

Or even fp

Yvette Colomb

@Rob same! that was why I TPU'ed it. I figured they had not contributed anything else and knew they were copy and pasting and are probably reading this - happy - that they've found a way to troll that causes us a small amount of consternation

SmokeDetector

4:18 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer, link at end of answer: Ping site and return result in PHP by Mumbai Escorts on stackoverflow.com

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

!!/watch rukhsana\.online

SmokeDetector

@K.Dᴀᴠɪs You don't have code privileges, but I've created PR#1680 for you.

Morning all!

o/

\o

4:25 AM

o/

@YvetteColomb Hey, there! Are your exams finished? How did they go?

Yvette Colomb

@AJ really well thanks - 2 HDs and a credit. Nearly finished my degree

yay

A J

@YvetteColomb Congrats

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

@art : (?i)(female?|girl?)\s(escort?)?(\sservice)? ?

!!/test female escort service

SmokeDetector

> Would not be caught as a post, title or username.

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

!!/test girl escorts

SmokeDetector

4:35 AM

> Would not be caught as a post, title or username.

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

I guess it could be services too... (?i)(female?|girl?)\s(escort?)?(\sservice?)?

anyone extremely proficient in regex?

A J

Aren't we taking reason weight into account while increasing autoflagging count? Like more than 300 or something?

@K.Dᴀᴠɪs regex101.com

Makyen

@AJ That is heavily implied, but the post is specifically written (deceptively IMO) to be trying to get buy-in for 5-flags without actually requiring anything (at all).

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive body detected, offensive title detected: WHY IS MY BACK BUTTON CLOSING THE FUCKING APP by IDIOTS on android.SE (@iBug)

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected: WHY IS MY BACK BUTTON CLOSING THE FUCKING APP by IDIOTS on android.SE (@iBug)

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +3 more: bettercoloncleansingguide.com/nutralu-garcinia-cambogia/ by Jonrieght on drupal.SE

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs on WHY IS MY BACK BUTTON CLOSING THE FUCKING APP [MS]

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, pattern-matching website in body, +3 more: growxlsite.com/cialin-rx/ by royildl san on puzzling.SE (@Mithrandir @micsthepick)

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in body: read from two separate text files and write into one by jacobc55 on stackoverflow.com

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +4 more: www.menshealthreviews.org/eternol/ by user802612 on askubuntu.com

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

Nog Shine

4:53 AM

@SmokeDetector fp

SmokeDetector

@NogShine Registered question as false positive.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, +1 more: Barbarian XL tres by user802611 on askubuntu.com

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title: klereumcol.com/renuvaline-es/ by litendson on english.SE

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

!!/watch \b(?i)(female.*?|girl.*?)\s(escort.*?)\b

SmokeDetector

@K.Dᴀᴠɪs You don't have code privileges, but I've created PR#1681 for you.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of body, potentially bad keyword in body: How to get timely Per-day/On-call doctors during medical emergency through Perzue? by Perzue Healthcare on superuser.com

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

!!/watch perzue\.com

SmokeDetector

@K.Dᴀᴠɪs That pattern looks like it's already caught by Potentially bad keyword in body and Potentially bad keyword in answer; append -force if you really want to do that.

paper1111

5:01 AM

@K.Dᴀᴠɪs You don't need (?i), they are automatically applied

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

@paper1111 that's gtk. Thanks

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link following arrow in body: Numerous grown-ups worldwide as of late look for where to purchase Nutralu by Kareeillman on graphicdesign.SE

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, +2 more: What do You Mean by Herzolex Ultra ? by PhylGog on askubuntu.com

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

NVZ

Shouldn't the page now say 99.75, and not 99.5? charcoal-se.org/flagging#any-good

Especially since it is the supporting link for the MSE post about 5 flags.

tripleee

@NVZ updated, thanks

SmokeDetector

5:17 AM

New metasmoke user 'xelrorrffg' created

NVZ

@tripleee I see 99.5 on two lines. Changed both?

SmokeDetector

[ charcoal-se.github.io ] continuous-integration/travis-ci/push success on 648db5a: The Travis CI build passed

tripleee

@NVZ um wait no

NVZ

@tripleee charcoal-se.org/flagging#privacy

Suraj Rao

So SO is looking for 3 more Mods..stackoverflow.com/election/10 @Magisch must have really done some serious flagging :p

tripleee

5:18 AM

what's the second? ctrl-f only finds 99.75

Suraj Rao

\o morning all

NVZ

@tripleee ctrl+f to 99.5

tripleee

oh nvm, fat fingers

@NVZ tried exactly that but somehow failed /-:

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

@SurajRao o/

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Andras Fiber - Hides the look of bald spots by Lorrainejones1 on askubuntu.com

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

NVZ

5:19 AM

@tripleee charcoal-se.org/flagging#any-good still says "a policy that is at least 99.5% accurate over a sample of 1000 posts"

tripleee

@NVZ just committed a change, it takes a bit before it's built and deployed

NVZ

@tripleee cool

SmokeDetector

[ charcoal-se.github.io ] continuous-integration/travis-ci/push success on a2aa0d7: The Travis CI build passed

NVZ

@tripleee change applied

tripleee

glory hallelujah

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

5:25 AM

@tripleee any idea why coveralls would take a long time?

tripleee

@K.Dᴀᴠɪs quantify "long"? Is this Circle CI or Travis? These build farms occasionally get clogged by other projects so a few minutes is completely normal

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

@tripleee uh ~30 mins

tripleee

this one? coveralls.io/builds/15823556

but I'm skeptical wrt github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/pull/1681 -- does it not overlap with existing hard-coded rules?

haven't looked at Coveralis reports before but this looks like it succeeded and just somehow didn't manage to communicate back to Github properly ...?

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

@tripleee no

55 mins ago, by SmokeDetector

> Would not be caught as a post, title or username.

tripleee

okay, it's just a watch, I'll clean up the regex some and merge it

SmokeDetector

5:35 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, +6 more: getbetterskincare.com/cognivex/ by duhkdvwek on askubuntu.com

tpu- by suraj

CI on 96d271d succeeded.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, bad pattern in URL body, pattern-matching website in body, +1 more: blackdiamondskinserumsite.net/derma-promedics-review/ by riciaelch on codegolf.SE (@Mego @quartata)

tpu- by tripleee

New metasmoke user 'Adriano' created

ArtOfCode

5:52 AM

@Undo should be an email in your inbox

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

@ArtOfCode enjoy your nap?

NVZ

@SmokeDetector What does that mean?

Suraj Rao

@NVZ means a new user registered for autoflagging I presume

NVZ

@SurajRao I see.

ArtOfCode

So, Charcoal. @BhargavRao answered the meta post. In that answer is this: "The red color marked user is a well known overzealous flagger. I've seen many of their spam flags being retracted just a few seconds after flagging and then using a NAA flag. The blue marked user is a highly respected member of Charcoal (or atleast, I respect them a lot), and who is quite good at taking decisions."

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NVZ

5:54 AM

I suppose the recent meta post will bring in a lot of users to charcoal.

SmokeDetector

New metasmoke user 'luk3yx' created

ArtOfCode

The "I've seen many of their spam flags being retracted..." is an issue when we're looking at 5 flags. I can't stress enough that we have to be accurate when flagging. I don't want to be the flag police, but we can't be ending up with moderators messaging people to tell them to back off with the spam flags.

To that end... is there anything we can do or measures we can put in place to help that not happen?

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