Charcoal HQ

terdon

00:00

Well, then false negatives would be those that were deleted as spam but weren't autoflagged. Which should be possible to find.

And true negatives those that weren't autoflagged and weren't deleted as spam.

quartata

not as such. we don't have 10k everywhere

Could use SEDE maybe

terdon

Hmm. Yes, probably.

That'd defeat my meagre SQL-fu though. Getting cross-site data from SEDE is possible but complicated.

ArtOfCode

@terdon that is a number I can get you

20680

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted user: PayPal REST APIs and PayPal buttons by GJ51 on stackoverflow.com

naa- by ArtOfCode

ArtOfCode

!!/rmblu stackoverflow.com/users/1589822

SmokeDetector

00:04

@ArtOfCode User removed from blacklist (1589822 on stackoverflow.com).

Floern

sigh

terdon

@ArtOfCode It'd have to be per site.

ArtOfCode

that is also a dataset I can get you

terdon

Ah! That'd be great!

(and no, I'm not expecting it now :) )

ArtOfCode

Stack Overflow,9134
Server Fault,222
Super User,870
Meta Stack Exchange,134
Web Applications,184
Arqade,254
Webmasters,126
Seasoned Advice,52
Seasoned Advice Meta,1
Game Development,38
Photography,53
Cross Validated,142
Mathematics,440
Home Improvement,89
Geographic Information Systems,135
TeX - LaTeX,86
Ask Ubuntu,568
Personal Finance &amp; Money,96
English Language &amp; Usage,389
Stack Apps,12
User Experience,57
Unix &amp; Linux,160
WordPress Development,222
Theoretical Computer Science,4
Ask Different,366

Whaddaya mean not now

terdon

00:07

heh :)

OK, but what is that exactly?

ArtOfCode

CSV of site name, count of non-tp non-autoflagged posts on site

terdon

True negatives?

ArtOfCode

yeah

Rob

!!/rmblu stackoverflow.com/users/8525402

SmokeDetector

@Rob User is not blacklisted.

terdon

00:09

Since when @ArtOfCode?

What time period, I mean

ArtOfCode

All time

terdon

Then I'm missing something. That can't be the total number of non-spam posts

Are those the ones that were flagged manually but not tps?

ArtOfCode

SELECT COUNT(*) FROM posts WHERE is_tp = FALSE; comes back as 20773

terdon

@ArtOfCode Ah yes, but those are the ones reported by smokey

ArtOfCode

Oh, you want from the entire SE dataset? Yeah... that one I don't have data for.

terdon

00:12

I'd need the totals since the objective is to show how well smokey picks out the needles from the haystack

SmokeDetector

New metasmoke user 'Malandy' created

terdon

Cause Chemistry sees 2FPs and 17TPs, but that would need to be put into the context of how many posts were actually scanned (so, all of them) to have meaning.

ArtOfCode

I can get you data for single sites at a time, so until I figure out multiple-site data.SE queries, here's AU.

7555 posts autoflagged on AU. 660821 total posts.

terdon

If you get some, go for the ones in the list I posted above. Those are the ones with less than 99 PPV, so the ones that are likely to complain.

ArtOfCode

12362 total spam posts on AU.

Non-spam non-autoflagged on AU is therefore 648459

terdon

00:16

Yeah, Ubuntu is one of the clearest cases in favor of autoflagging on the network:

Site Name                             FP  TP    PPV (TP/tot)
Ask Ubuntu                            4   7279  0.999314

That's only very slightly worse that what we aim for when analyzing genomic data for clinical use :)

(and better than many get, even)

ArtOfCode

25505 posts scanned on Bitcoin (lowest PPV), 467 spam, so 25038 non-spam non-autoflagged.

terdon

@terdon No, I lie, it's better!

ArtOfCode

Android 48356

terdon

@ArtOfCode Cool, that's what I need. Could you collect them and send me an email or ping me tomorrow? I have to go now.

ArtOfCode

aye aye

terdon

00:20

Cheers

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

Anyone else using the Dark-themed metasmoke userscript?

Catija

I am.

terdon

I have an account on hardware recs, you can use the email there.

ArtOfCode

Cool, cheers

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

Ummm.. Why are there three completely missing posts in MS?

oops

Rob

00:27

Not sure, but they're all referring to this

SmokeDetector

Conflicting feedback on .

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

SD is broken. Now what

quartata

It's not. That was iBug editing the title to an invisible separator

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

SD wants to know why someone used a period ( . ) instead of a comma ( , )

quartata

(in case you didn't notice who made the post)

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

00:35

ahh

quartata

@ArtOfCode that record should be destroyed

ArtOfCode

meh

quartata

if it wasn't for the fact that it was an edit they would have gotten autoflagged, they should be more careful

ArtOfCode

if it was a genuine detection by Smokey then I lean towards not deleting it in the name of keeping our data honest

quartata

believe they used !!/scan

dunno

ArtOfCode

00:51

meh, it can stay

Data on its way to you @terdon

SmokeDetector

01:06

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Repeating characters in answer: Do I need to finish every level in the world to fight the boss? by user206647 on gaming.SE

tpu- by Catija

SmokeDetector

01:24

New metasmoke user 'FireProductions' created

Restart: API quota is 8362.

WELZ

02:18

PPV is what?

quartata

positive predictive value

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body: Another I did was I inquired by Shr ivkj on apple.SE

tpu- by WELZ

SmokeDetector

02:47

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in answer, potentially bad keyword in answer: JWPlayer "Error loading player: No playable sources found" i can change text? by Tracey Churchill on stackoverflow.com

SmokeDetector

03:03

API quota rolled over with 7837 requests remaining. Current quota: 19999.

math: 137
stackoverflow: 75
superuser: 25
serverfault: 19
physics: 17
english: 15
codegolf: 13
apple: 11
unix: 10
bitcoin: 9
askubuntu: 9
chemistry: 7
rpg: 7
boardgames: 7
money: 6
interpersonal: 5
diy: 5
ethereum: 5
magento: 5
electronics: 5
arduino: 4
dba: 4
ell: 4
android: 4
es.stackoverflow: 4
gaming: 4
workplace: 3
blender: 3
mathematica: 3
security: 3
stats: 3
mathoverflow.net: 3
scifi: 3
health: 3
salesforce: 3
raspberrypi: 3
gis: 3
academia: 3
philosophy: 3
history: 3
japanese: 2
mechanics: 2

Undo

@ArtOfCode How'd you get total posts scanned data?

WELZ

@Undo secrt stuffz

@SmokeDetector eh

SmokeDetector

03:26

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title: The skin recovery treatment offered by Tryvix by RaymThom on drupal.SE

Nisse Engström

@SmokeDetector tpu-

SmokeDetector

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

SmokeDetector

04:13

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching website in body: Pulled Cellule Muscle Treatment by Qjjorlerxs on puzzling.SE (@Mithrandir @micsthepick)

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

Merged SmokeDetector #1685.

CI on 8ece176 succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev d726039 (metasmoke: Merge pull request #1685 from Charcoal-SE/auto-blacklist-1520403820.6799061 --autopull) (running on teward/Lunar Eclipse)

Restart: API quota is 19606.

Merged SmokeDetector #1687.

CI on a1172c7 succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev a1172c7 (metasmoke: Merge pull request #1687 from Charcoal-SE/auto-blacklist-1520465131.7699018 --autopull) (running on teward/Lunar Eclipse)

Restart: API quota is 19583.

tpu by A J

tpu by A J on JWPlayer "Error loading player: No playable sources found" i can change text? [MS]

Conflicting feedback on JWPlayer "Error loading player: No playable sources found" i can change text?.

angussidney

...wow, this is the quietest I've seen it in days

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

04:28

lurk

Catija

Maybe they packed up and went on to another target... Looks like our work here is done!

... Or is it a holiday?

I hear it's "women's day"? Not something they celebrate in the US, as far as I'm aware.

Rob

It's international women's day.. some countries celebrate it, not sure how many have a day off, though

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

the spike was do to the meta post. People got their eyes on this golden project then got bored

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title: www.crevalorsite.com/gainxtreme/ by HharHeter on puzzling.SE (@Mithrandir @micsthepick)

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

micsthepick

@SmokeDetector k

SmokeDetector

04:34

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +4 more: mylaviveeyeserum.com/pxm-male-enhancement/ by ravoitewik on askubuntu.com

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

Suraj Rao

@Cerbrus alright thanks cc @M.A.R. mod flagging it

A J

Morning all!

Suraj Rao

\o morning

A J

@angussidney Yeah. Looks like everybody is busy on meta. :P

@Catija It is something that celebrated here. Total six pink-colored pages in a newspaper dedicated to women's achievements in different fields and free travel for women in buses.

SmokeDetector

tpu by quartata

quartata

04:50

!!/standby Lunar

SmokeDetector

teward/Lunar Eclipse is switching to standby (@quartata)

teward/Solar Flare received failover signal. (@quartata)

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started in standby mode at rev a1172c7 (metasmoke: Merge pull request #1687 from Charcoal-SE/auto-blacklist-1520465131.7699018 --autopull) (running on teward/Lunar Eclipse)

Restart: API quota is 19999.

quartata

!!/pull

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev a1172c7 (metasmoke: Merge pull request #1687 from Charcoal-SE/auto-blacklist-1520465131.7699018 --autopull) (running on teward/Solar Flare)

Restart: API quota is 19995.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Username similar to website in answer: Facebook like button doesn't count by Welele on stackoverflow.com

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching product name in body, pattern-matching website in body, +1 more: www.trypromusclefit.com/pxm-male-enhancement/ by Reecetode on english.SE

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

angussidney

...finally up to date with the transcript

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

05:05

@angussidney can you privilege me in SOBotics? I don't usually interact with SD there but when I do could be useful

cc @ArtOfCode

SmokeDetector

New metasmoke user 'IEW' created

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in answer: Programmatically combine slides from multiple presentations into a single presentation by stefnie kayelle on stackoverflow.com

SmokeDetector

05:18

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link following arrow in body: Trilixton In the event that you need to manufacture by Lesleland on graphicdesign.SE

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

tpu- by Makyen on Programmatically combine slides from multiple presentations into a single presentation [MS]

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Premier T Boost - Unsatisfied sexual encounters by peggymercer on superuser.com

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching email in body: Trying to add Rx460 graphics driver to Ubuntu 17.10 by user803418 on askubuntu.com

fp- by Makyen

Makyen

@angussidney I know that feeling. I've been lagging behind since yesterday and finally caught up only about an hour ago. If the topics weren't so important, I'd have been tempted to skip it once I got to being 2k+ messages behind.

tripleee

@K.Dᴀᴠɪs I'll add you, hang on

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

\o/

SmokeDetector

CI on ff9b5f7 succeeded.

tripleee

05:33

srsly

!!/pull

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev ff9b5f7 (tripleee: +K.Davis to SOBotics) (running on teward/Solar Flare)

Restart: API quota is 19750.

tripleee

duh, forgot the --autopull

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

xD

SmokeDetector

05:50

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: A titanium rainbow complete up of these fixings by Worgen44 on askubuntu.com

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, bad keyword in username, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching website in body: How Does It WOrk Provitazol? by Provitazol on astronomy.SE

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, pattern-matching website in body, blacklisted user: maturing demonstrated that you adhere by Shr ivkj on apple.SE

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, +1 more: Trilixton Muscle Builder by alexsonss on meta.SE

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Being with prosperity day moreover by On coure on drupal.SE

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

DavidPostill

06:21

!!/report superuser.com/a/1301497/337631

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: Export .doc (word) to .cdr (coreldraw) by Dipankar Pasricha on superuser.com

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

!!/watch 91\W{0,3}9911\W{0,3}001197

SmokeDetector

@K.Dᴀᴠɪs You don't have code privileges, but I've created PR#1688 for you.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching website in body: Trilixton Review by floyddbrown on askubuntu.com

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Build Leg Muscle Your Business Can Be Proud Of by michaarriss on drupal.SE

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body: What automated testing tools should you use as a beginner? by jackar56 on superuser.com

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs on Build Leg Muscle Your Business Can Be Proud Of [MS]

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

!!/watch janbasktraining\.com

SmokeDetector

@K.Dᴀᴠɪs That pattern looks like it's already caught by Potentially bad keyword in body and Potentially bad keyword in answer; append -force if you really want to do that.

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

06:34

!!/watch-force janbasktraining\.com

SmokeDetector

@K.Dᴀᴠɪs You don't have code privileges, but I've created PR#1689 for you.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, potentially bad keyword in title: circlehealthclub.com/bonte-advanced-wrinkle-cream/ by aliyasanz on askubuntu.com

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

New metasmoke user 'Oscar Apeland' created

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, +1 more: however its aspect results can become fatal for a few people, by Etent19 Virk on superuser.com

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching website in body, +1 more: nitridex is taken commonly, by Etent19 Virk on graphicdesign.SE

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

tpu by suraj on however its aspect results can become fatal for a few people, [MS]

tpu by suraj on https://circlehealthclub.com/bonte-advanced-wrinkle-cream/ [MS]

tpu by suraj on Build Leg Muscle Your Business Can Be Proud Of [MS]

tpu by suraj on Trilixton Review [MS]

tpu by suraj on Export .doc (word) to .cdr (coreldraw) [MS]

tpu by suraj on Being with prosperity day moreover [MS]

New metasmoke user 'Tadeusz Kopec' created

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

@SmokeDetector still alive

its gone

SmokeDetector

Merged SmokeDetector #1689.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title: www.crevalorsite.com/ropaxin-rx/ by user78774 on codegolf.SE (@Mego @quartata)

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

CI on 90f8840 succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev 90f8840 (metasmoke: Merge pull request #1689 from Charcoal-SE/auto-blacklist-1520490863.1210353 --autopull) (running on teward/Solar Flare)

Restart: API quota is 19266.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, +3 more: What are the Benefits of the Trilixton Muscle Builder? by josephwarren on askubuntu.com

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +4 more: infosupplement.com/master-testo-pro by francynt on askubuntu.com

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

New metasmoke user 'Syakur Rahman' created

tripleee

07:08

!!/watch 91\W*9911\W*001197

SmokeDetector

@tripleee Added 91\W*9911\W*001197 to watchlist

CI on 99f51b1 succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev 99f51b1 (SmokeDetector: Auto watch of 91\W*9911\W*001197 by tripleee --autopull) (running on teward/Solar Flare)

Restart: API quota is 19142.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Repeated URL at end of long post: How to Choose Quality Lights and Chandelier? by Cairo Glitz Lighting on magento.SE

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

!!/watch cairo-glitz\.com

SmokeDetector

@K.Dᴀᴠɪs You don't have code privileges, but I've created PR#1690 for you.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +3 more: elliskinantiaging.com/renewelle/ by zpmlxhsvam on meta.SE

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +5 more: infosupplement.com/master-testo-pro by francynt on askubuntu.com

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

New metasmoke user 'robinCTS' created

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, bad keyword in username, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, +3 more: Ingredients utilized in Trilixton? by Trilixton on superuser.com

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected: Space - government spendings on space research by mikhail george on physics.SE

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs on Ingredients utilized in Trilixton? [MS]

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, +1 more: In the gallium arsenide divider street on by Deeme1949 on askubuntu.com

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +4 more: mylaviveeyeserum.com/pxm-male-enhancement/ by Chrisyocki on askubuntu.com

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

tripleee

07:25

@SmokeDetector still needs more flags

A J

@SmokeDetector I told OP (question) that it will be gone in a few seconds. cast your flags

JAD

aaand it's gone

@SmokeDetector k

SmokeDetector

Merged SmokeDetector #1690.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer, bad pattern in URL answer, potentially bad keyword in answer: How can I avoid signing the attendance sheet for someone who wants to sit out a class? by teresastiles on interpersonal.SE

tpu- by suraj

CI on a4f8080 succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev a4f8080 (metasmoke: Merge pull request #1690 from Charcoal-SE/auto-blacklist-1520493341.9500976 --autopull) (running on teward/Solar Flare)

Restart: API quota is 19004.

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

@SmokeDetector against my better judgment, I navigated to that site's home page and it contains the "troxin" spam we get hit alot from

!!/watch drozhelp\.com

SmokeDetector

@K.Dᴀᴠɪs That pattern looks like it's already caught by Potentially bad keyword in answer and Potentially bad keyword in body; append -force if you really want to do that.

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

07:31

!!/watch-force drozhelp\.com

SmokeDetector

@K.Dᴀᴠɪs You don't have code privileges, but I've created PR#1691 for you.

tripleee

@K.Dᴀᴠɪs I hope you are using an anonymizing proxy inside a virtual machine, I got weird coin miner backdoors installed when I clicked through to some of these sites

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

always :)

well... vpn instead of proxy

tripleee

@K.Dᴀᴠɪs it's already watched

Magisch

@tripleee Actually installed or was the site just running coinhive et al?

didn't visit it but curious

tripleee

07:36

@Magisch I don't know the specifics, probably just running a JavaScript miner

@K.Dᴀᴠɪs actually it's above blacklisting threshold already

!!/blacklist-website drozhelp\.com

SmokeDetector

@tripleee Blacklisted drozhelp\.com

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, +5 more: supplementlab.org/nitridex/ by kgacdwtzv on askubuntu.com

tpu- by tripleee

CI on 56bb02a succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev 56bb02a (SmokeDetector: Auto blacklist of drozhelp\.com by tripleee --autopull) (running on teward/Solar Flare)

tripleee

@Magisch it's a hit and miss thing, they redirect through several 301s etc and some of them serve ads or other potentially more nefarious nuisances

SmokeDetector

Restart: API quota is 18936.

tripleee

back when I was doing this actively I got the impression that there is a geo factor (only serve the bait if the visitor is from the targeted locale) and perhaps also a random factor

so if the promotion is for pills to Canadians it would only show you the order form if you were visiting from Canada, and mostly give you a 404 if you were not

Mithrandir

!!/blacklist-keyword gainxtreme

Magisch

07:39

So much work invested into malicious purposes

SmokeDetector

@Mithrandir Blacklisted gainxtreme

Magisch

someone had to code that, you know

tripleee

there's an enormous amounts of 404 in the Halflife logs

chat.stackexchange.com/search?q=404&room=65945

but also often the links seem to be to pointless blog pages and you have to browse around the site to find something which is actually a promotion for anything at all

SmokeDetector

CI on e1ecb34 succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev e1ecb34 (SmokeDetector: Auto blacklist of gainxtreme by Mithrandir --autopull) (running on teward/Solar Flare)

Magisch

@tripleee A lot of that is just to generate SEO juice for the preferred product

SmokeDetector

07:41

Restart: API quota is 18908.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in answer: How to open a Powerpoint presentation in Ubuntu? by stefnie kayalle on askubuntu.com

tripleee

I've been wondering if I should update my "what do we know about this spammer" post on meta or perhaps write a new one with updated findings

Magisch

In fact, there are hundreds of thousands of pages and blogs not designed to be read and understood by a human at all

SmokeDetector

tpu- by tripleee

Magisch

They're just keyword farms that are SEO boosted by clickthrough malware

Especially ad-clickfraud is very high in that business

tripleee

they're not gibberish but very often they are scam warnings and then you might find that one of the blog posts is "but this one is not a scam" only it's not that obvious

SmokeDetector

07:45

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer, bad keyword in link text in answer: How do you add a comment to pseudocode in LaTeX? by jonny paperown on tex.SE

Magisch

@tripleee Something like this though: metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/post/109355

SmokeDetector

tpu- by Magisch

tripleee

@Magisch well yeah but the blogs are generally well-formed and semantically coherent

for this particular spammer

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Pre enables with building incline mass by Pos tra on drupal.SE

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

New metasmoke user 'Pilgerstorfer Franz' created

tripleee

!!/watch paperown\.com

SmokeDetector

07:48

@tripleee Added paperown\.com to watchlist

Magisch

@tripleee Because they're what they're trying to generate SEO boosting for

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in link text in answer, blacklisted website in answer: How can I debug javascript and css on Android tablet? by prachisarode on stackoverflow.com

tripleee

@Magisch but it doesn't make sense, if all your optimized search results say "this product is a scam" it's not good SEO

SmokeDetector

CI on 46b2e45 succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev 46b2e45 (SmokeDetector: Auto watch of paperown\.com by tripleee --autopull) (running on teward/Solar Flare)

Magisch

Sometimes it works this way:
1. Setup a blog promoting / slagging off a product you're interested in
2. Post nonsense markov chain spam on various sites and try to get it indexed
3. Use clickfraud malware to boost the indexing of said spam, by proxy boosting your blog

SmokeDetector

07:49

Restart: API quota is 18834.

tpu- by tripleee

Magisch

@tripleee Who says that it's not one of their direct competitors?

And they're trying to have the first search result be about how $competitorproduct is a scam but $myproduct isn't

tripleee

@Magisch I tried to research from that angle too but my results were inconclusive at best, it still doesn't make sense

Magisch

They have a business model and it's profitable, otherwise they wouldn't be doing this

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body: how can be apply /enjoyllery-facial-serum? by SaraDuffey on drupal.SE

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

Mithrandir

They're just hiding Bitcoin miners

SmokeDetector

07:53

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, +2 more: CLA Safflower Oil Be doing technological knowing by illuminosity01 on askubuntu.com

tripleee

@Magisch of course, but I still struggle to understand precisely what they are trying to accomplish ... one of the hypotheses is still that they don't know what they are doing (if you outsource too many parts the outsource partners will be improperly coordinated or in the worst case sabotage each other)

Mithrandir

@SmokeDetector k

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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer: iOS 7 Hide Quoted Messages in a Mail Thread by Daniel Pavliuchkov on apple.SE

tripleee

@Mithrandir that's also quite possible, but then I would expect to see them more often, it just happened once when I was investigating the 301 chains for a few dozen of these URLs

SmokeDetector

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs on CLA Safflower Oil Be doing technological knowing [MS]

fp- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

07:55

a little sketchy though

Magisch

@tripleee could also be that it's an outsourcing partner gaming the reward scheme

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

actually I think its spam now

Look: utm_source=stackexchange&utm_medium=comment&utm_campaign=guerilla

it's a campaign

SmokeDetector

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

Magisch

@SmokeDetector This is wildly undisclosed self promotion

Mithrandir

@SmokeDetector why

SmokeDetector

07:56

Conflicting feedback on iOS 7 Hide Quoted Messages in a Mail Thread.

Magisch

> CEO at Mailburn - iPhone email client for business people.

SmokeDetector

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

Magisch

From the user's page

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Conflicting feedback on iOS 7 Hide Quoted Messages in a Mail Thread.

@Mithrandir Body - Position 86-110: utm_source=stackexchange

tripleee

how can there be two tpu- feedbacks from @K.Dᴀᴠɪs here? metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/post/109365/feedback/clear

Magisch

07:58

Not gonna comment but a custom flag would probably be appropriate

K.Dᴀᴠɪs

That's strange..

Ferrybig

@tripleee That page requires the admin role to visit

tripleee

oh it's visible on the regular page too metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/post/109365

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, +5 more: supplementlab.org/nitridex/ by user279146 on apple.SE

tpu- by K.Dᴀᴠɪs

tripleee

sorry about that

Mithrandir

07:59

@SmokeDetector This is... ancient.

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