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10:02 AM
@micsthepick usually "framework" refers to a general architecture for a specific type of programs, like desktop applications or web services. Django offers a rich set of libraries for building something for the web and while it's reasonably broad and rich in scope, there are still some things you really don't want to use it for
and on the other hand if your needs are simple, it's probably not worth the learning curve
 
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@micsthepick like which one is good for developing web and desktop apps. Though, Triplee and JAD suggested some.
 
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!!/blacklist-keyword vita\W?x
 
@tripleee Blacklisted vita\W?x
 
There's also Tornado, which uses some of the new async functionality in 3.6
 
10:04 AM
yeah, framework is just such a general term
 
it's like asking are there libraries in python
 
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just a teeny bit more specific
 
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10:06 AM
sd - why
 
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@micsthepick maybe quite a bit more specific, more like "is there a set of libraries which support a particular final use case and a set of guidelines for how to get there"
 
@micsthepick did the python eat a whole library?
 
@tripleee true
 
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10:07 AM
but yeah, without "framework for what" it's too broad
 
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!!/test-a male enhancement
 
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Body - Position 1-17: male enhancement
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If I want to develop a desktop application in Python, which framework should I try or should I do it from scratch?
 
10:11 AM
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@SmokeDetector K
 
insights.dice.com/2017/08/07/… has Kivy as its first suggestion; I have no experience with any of these, but it certainly seems to be popular
 
@SmokeDetector we're really good with male enhancement. Reason weight 1176
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Google Rich Snippet on Real Estate Site by Sneha on webmasters.SE
 
Or maybe the spammers are too bad
 
10:14 AM
!!/watch salarpuriasattvamistycharmkanakapura\.in
 
@SmokeDetector k
 
@SmokeDetector K
 
@iBug Added salarpuriasattvamistycharmkanakapura\.in to watchlist
 
dear, this shit is so long
 
@iBug dude, that's even longer than my name
@iBug jinx
 
10:15 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body: How do I put certain elements(String) in Array into a new array(Integer)? by Jisoo on stackoverflow.com
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@SmokeDetector why
 
@M.A.R. Body - Position 262-274: lowest price
 
I'm afraid that keyword's going to generate some FP
 
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@tripleee I want to develop a desktop app, so I guess it is either PyQT or PySide.
 
can we fix that?
 
10:16 AM
@SmokeDetector F
 
@AJ pyqt good
 
@micsthepick we can shut down Smokey
 
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!!/location
 
@micsthepick teward/Solar Flare
 
10:17 AM
why the restart?
 
@micsthepick the watch
See the rev description
"Auto-watch of solarsomethingsomethingohmygoodnessthisissolong.in"
 
@AJ the article I linked to alleges there's 30+ but again, I have no experience with desktop apps and your requirements probably constrain your choices somewhat
 
Use Django if you want it to be easier, Flask if you want to build everything by yourself.
Django is more convenient while Flask would be more flexible.
 
but all of us here seem to be more of back-end or web front-end people so the Python room is probably a better place to ask
 
10:20 AM
use rails :)
 
do we still want to watch Amplience?
 
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10:21 AM
@angussidney Deliberate as it's another dupe
 
@tripleee what if it's some weird twisted spam seed?
 
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@iBug would it be possible to link me to the right line?
 
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Wow, I'm blind
Much appreciated
 
10:23 AM
@M.A.R. it seems pretty much cut and dried, they are spamming ^W populating Stack Overflow with their own support questions; it's not spam in that sense
@iBug still good to respond in the ticket instead of here
 
@tripleee yeah, I commented there.
 
fp by micsthepick
 
@iBug great, thanks!
 
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there is no feedback in revision #1?
@SmokeDetector go home, you're drunk
 
10:25 AM
I'm thinking of requesting push access to SmokeDetector and/or listing my name under "Developers" section in charcoal-se.org/people
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer (batch report: post 1 out of 2): how to set up PBN and blog on blogger and wordpress? by Muhammad Bilal Khaleeq on stackoverflow.com
 
!!/watch anifar\.com
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported question (batch report: post 2 out of 2): how to set up PBN and blog on blogger and wordpress? by Muhammad Bilal Khaleeq on stackoverflow.com
 
!!/watch softsluz\.com
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in link text in body, pattern-matching website in body, potentially bad keyword in body: Hard disk used in Windows 7Ultimate desktop crashed suddenly.All the data in the disk were lost.What would be the reason? by Steven L on superuser.com
 
10:26 AM
:43396374 no no no no no slash
 
@iBug Added anifar\.com to watchlist
 
got it before smokey noticed
 
@iBug Added softsluz\.com to watchlist
:43396374 You don't have code privileges, but I've created PR#1734 for you.
 
nvm
 
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10:27 AM
face palm
 
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@iBug I'd say no to 1) (for now) but yes to 2)
 
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@tripleee I will be learning Python from beginning. So isn't it better to learn basic and then go to framework?
 
CI on a421dae failed.
 
@SmokeDetector sush, I'm busy fixing that stuff
 
10:28 AM
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@angussidney great, I was also evaluating more 2 than 1.
 
@AJ really no opinion on that, people learn in different ways and some frameworks might actually spare you from learning things which are not central to your task
 
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Illuminosity Cream??
 
CI on b6cf93e succeeded.
 
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10:29 AM
@iBug to make you look bright.
 
!!/watch illuminosity\W?cream
@AJ to make you look like a lit light bulb
 
CI on 4dffa74 failed.
 
@iBug cooooool
Me want
 
@SmokeDetector K
 
10:30 AM
@SmokeDetector why would CI fail on that?
 
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@angussidney You can also promote WELZ to "spam check maintainers section"
@micsthepick dupe entry. Fixed by angus now.
 
@iBug That pattern looks like it's already caught by Bad keyword in answer and Bad keyword in body; append -force if you really want to do that.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in link text in body, pattern-matching website in body, potentially bad keyword in body: Hard disk used in Windows 7Ultimate desktop crashed suddenly.All the data in the disk were lost.What would be the reason? by Steven L on superuser.com
 
10:31 AM
@micsthepick yeah, Circle isn't cancelling redundant builds for some reason, I'm having a look at the settings now
 
@micsthepick That's not a report.
 
@angussidney Travis has a setting to stop previous jobs as soon as a new one starts
 
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@iBug yep, so does circle, but it's not compatiable with our current configuration, so I'm going to update that
 
[ charcoal-se.github.io ] continuous-integration/travis-ci/push success on 24b1933: The Travis CI build passed
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10:34 AM
@SmokeDetector K
 
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CI on a3fddef succeeded.
 
JAD
@AJ it was removed
 
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SD 2K
 
JAD
sd 2k
 
10:37 AM
@JAD hehe
 
@JAD I'm afraid..............................
 
sd 2k
 
JAD
ooooops
 
JAD
@iBug so am I
 
10:37 AM
It would have been epic
@iBug I'm afraid of your dots
 
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JAD
@SmokeDetector k
 
[ charcoal-se.github.io ] continuous-integration/travis-ci/push success on 9290fb5: The Travis CI build passed
 
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@SmokeDetector K for God's sake
 
JAD
(I'm going through them all do check)
 
JAD
yep, there it is
 
@SmokeDetector hmph?
 
10:40 AM
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@SmokeDetector k
 
@SmokeDetector !!lol
 
@SmokeDetector k
 
JAD
oh rub it in will you :(
 
@SmokeDetector K
 
10:40 AM
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@SmokeDetector K
 
CI on bcb7a97 succeeded.
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JAD
Ok, I checked all reviews, one was wrong and is now invalidated
@SmokeDetector k
 
@SmokeDetector K
 
CI on a677aa8 succeeded.
 
10:42 AM
!!/pull
 
Finally got to flag
 
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@AJ I’ve never used it, but Proton Native looks pretty cool (it’s JS though, not Python).
 
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JAD
@SmokeDetector f
 
10:45 AM
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there is a lot of people actively giving feedback rn...
 
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@SmokeDetector why
 
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babasupport - somehow Smokey didn't scan that message.
 
10:53 AM
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@SmokeDetector please shut up, you have more important messages to post.
 
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@iBug Body - Position 260-275: babasupport.org
 
JAD
smokey is slow to respond :o
 
10:55 AM
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@SmokeDetector K
 
!!/reboot
 
@Glorfindel uh, K
 
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10:56 AM
@Glorfindel don't do that. Smokey already know
 
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It will scan messages even if it's rate-limited.
 
@JAD it's little left to our Iranian new year, and I think Smokey is Iranian
 
how could we prioritize tasks within Smokey?
 
@Glorfindel Post 1: Could not find data for this post in the API. It may already have been deleted.
 
10:57 AM
@SmokeDetector great
 
@Glorfindel updated to make it more accurate :P
 
@angussidney :)
 

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