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paper1111

12:00

I suggest you read codeblog.jonskeet.uk/2010/08/29/writing-the-perfect-question - and make sure you're aware of what's on topic before posting. — Jon Skeet 25 mins ago

No affilation xd

iBug

@paper1111 run while you can

John Dvorak

meh, flagging anyways :P

iBug

Jon Skeet is immutable

John Dvorak

In other news: I believe the IRL section on Twitch should be split into three categories: ASMR, just chat, and actually doing stuff

I only care about the last one

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Provitazol Testosterone Booster by Provitazolreview on askubuntu.com

tpu- by John Dvorak

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: \*Results manage vacillate from abandoned by Daut per on drupal.SE

tpu- by suraj

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer: What is a bid wall? by Shadow on bitcoin.SE

tpu- by tripleee

Cerbrus

12:12

"💯% legitimate"

Sure

doppelgreener

!!/watch coinpot\.co

SmokeDetector

@doppelgreener That pattern looks like it's already caught by Potentially bad keyword in answer and Potentially bad keyword in body; append -force if you really want to do that.

doppelgreener

!!/watch moon(bit|b|lite|doge|dash)(co\.in|\.co|\.ch)

SmokeDetector

doppelgreener

!!/watch hashflare\.io

SmokeDetector

12:18

@doppelgreener Added hashflare\.io to watchlist

doppelgreener

!!/watch makeculous\.com

SmokeDetector

@doppelgreener Added makeculous\.com to watchlist

doppelgreener

@SmokeDetector thank you for giving us so many simultaneous domains to watch. :D

SmokeDetector

CI on 9f9699e succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev 9f9699e (SmokeDetector: Auto watch of makeculous\.com by doppelgreener --autopull) (running on teward/Solar Flare)

Restart: API quota is 9495.

doppelgreener

hashflare.io looks like it actually should be legit

SmokeDetector

12:22

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +4 more: freesupplementrial.com/primal-alpha-beast/ by fcaqzwxsw on askubuntu.com

tpu- by iBug

doppelgreener

makeculous is suspicious, it's a "make money from home" site

possibly a referrer URL thing?

iBug

!!/watch primal\W?alpha\W?beast

SmokeDetector

@iBug Added primal\W?alpha\W?beast to watchlist

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev fbcf177 (SmokeDetector: Auto watch of primal\W?alpha\W?beast by iBug --autopull) (running on teward/Solar Flare)

Restart: API quota is 9451.

tp- by suraj

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted user: Microsoft Cognitive Services Custom Speech Support Contact by CRIS on stackoverflow.com

naa- by iBug

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, potentially bad keyword in body, +1 more: It is sans chance in a container so it is anything but difficult to devour. by Donce19 Virk on superuser.com

tpu- by J F

tripleee

@SmokeDetector good catch but metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/post/102702 should really not be TP @JakeSymons

which is what caused them to be blacklisted

SmokeDetector

12:48

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer, mostly dots in answer: XNA(MonoGame) null exception by robi_combi on stackoverflow.com

tp- by J F

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer, mostly dots in answer: Remove bootstrap pre styling by robi_combi on stackoverflow.com

naa- by iBug on XNA(MonoGame) null exception [MS]

tp- by iBug

tp- by J F

paper1111

sd 3- v - v

SmokeDetector

naa- by iBug

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer, mostly dots in answer: How to embed the html files for js and css by robi_combi on stackoverflow.com

tp- by suraj

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer, mostly dots in answer: Variable not declared in scope- getter/setters by robi_combi on stackoverflow.com

tp- by iBug

Suraj Rao

@SmokeDetector vandalism since this failed

SmokeDetector

@SurajRao Registered answer as true positive. If you want to blacklist the poster, use trueu or tpu.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +4 more: freesupplementrial.com/primal-alpha-beast/ by fcaqzwxsw on apple.SE

tpu- by iBug

tpu- by J F

iBug

@SurajRao mof dlagged

swapped letters

Byte Commander

12:52

o_O

iBug

a rollback war is soon emerging...

...if the user remains unsuspended

PeterJ

Did you check out his user page? He was fast to update it...

J F

Seems they’ve stopped for a while

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching website in body: Bioxelan Skin working. Horse hockey by yarishjaha on apple.SE

tpu- by paper1111

paper1111

meta post vandalized \o

iBug

12:55

wtf

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Username similar to website in answer: Direct control of EV3 by pabr on bricks.SE

fp- by iBug

iBug

very fast

@PeterJ what does he mean?

Suraj Rao

@iBug from what I saw.. low quality answers (link only/images) got downvoted and vlq flagged.

iBug

uh, something extremely common to new useres

PeterJ

@iBug I assume he wasn't happy with the "bad behavior" of people commenting his answers could do with a bit of work

iBug

12:58

he changed his name and avatar

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching website in body, potentially bad keyword in body, repeated URL at end of long post: CH₃(CH₂)₂CHCO₂H is a typical amino corrosive by Donce19 Virk on graphicdesign.SE

tpu- by iBug

iBug

one of his NAA deleted by three 20k's, including Cerbrus

another accepted but -3 deleted

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +5 more: freesupplementrial.com/primal-alpha-beast/ by user277097 on apple.SE

tpu- by iBug

iBug

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in body, repeating characters in body: I dont recieve a JSON response by noobprogrammer222 on stackoverflow.com

tp- by J F

iBug

13:09

@JF You beat me to it.

J F

@iBug secret ninja powers :)

iBug

@JF next time I won't do the rollback :)

It's very interesting that Smokey catches vandalism occasionally.

I set a different sound for SO so I know whether a report is on SO or anywhere else as soon as the noti pops up

Byte Commander

it scans edited posts just like new posts, and vandalism usually introduces few repeated characters or swearing, so that's no surprise

iBug

asd fg hjk lq werty uio pzx cv bnm.

some rare cases where Smokey would fail.

vandalizers are as dumb as spammers

Byte Commander

that isn't a surprise either

iBug

13:15

yeah

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, link following arrow in body, +2 more: What is Glovella? by Stors 19 on workplace.SE

tpu- by iBug

tpu- by tripleee

iBug

all vandalism hit at least one reason

mostly dots, repeating characters, no whitespace, or offensive

tripleee

confirmation bias -- we have no idea what vandalism we are missing

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer: os.system commands by daniel on stackoverflow.com

tpu- by iBug

paper1111

!!/test akjshdiulshdflashldfoawern,amwenrljawenf

SmokeDetector

13:22

> Would not be caught as a post, title or username.

iBug

anyone check PR #1634?

tripleee

why are you adding coffees and teas?

Byte Commander

ruby tea? o_O

John Dvorak

could be good

rose hips, perhaps

rose hip coffee would be ... unusual

Mithrandir

@tripleee That changes greatly depending on how you define vandalism.

iBug

13:33

they're joke commands after all

ruby maybe ambiguous, but ruby on rails is very unlikely

Mithrandir

Belisarius in SOBotics is meant to catch vandalism; that includes removing code, editing in "solved", etc, which wouldn't fall under Smokey's purview.

iBug

Who made Belisarius?

Mithrandir

Uhh, not sure. Petter, possibly?

iBug

I am a great fan of the jQuery meme.

Suraj Rao

@iBug github.com/SOBotics/Belisarius/graphs/contributors

iBug

13:38

whoo, Bugs

tripleee

(jdd-software is Petter)

iBug

How's that !!/checkpost command looking?

WELZ

@iBug I like !!/scan better

iBug

@WELZ There's no difficulty in adding an extra alias.

So sure I can do it.

Done adding scan.

WELZ

Cool, awesome!

SmokeDetector

13:48

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer: Introduction of more than one person: Sir, this is Tom, Jerry, and their sister Mary; or should it be "these are"? by Richard Majece on ell.SE

tpu- by iBug

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer, mostly non-Latin answer, no whitespace in answer: Can I update iOS on a locked phone? by Derin Yurdakul on apple.SE

tpu- by iBug

iBug

Someone trying to crash iOS 11.2.5 devices

WELZ

LMAO

Suraj Rao

suddenly everybody is a telugu speaker

paper1111

> Consider simplifying this complex logical expression.

wut

iBug

@paper1111 where?

paper1111

14:01

My PR, codeclimate's complaining

it also says that it will take 40 mins to fix...

Well I gotta dash, I'll try to make it pass codeclimate tommorow

iBug

I never get caught by CodeClimate

but flake8 is something tricky

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, link following arrow in body, pattern-matching website in body, +1 more: What are its impressive ingredients? by Stors 19 on superuser.com

tpu- by iBug

Mithrandir

!!/allnotifications

SmokeDetector

@Mithrandir Missing an argument.

Mithrandir

!!/allnotifications 11540

SmokeDetector

14:05

You will get notified for these sites:
ai.stackexchange.com, literature.stackexchange.com, puzzling.stackexchange.com, scifi.stackexchange.com

paper1111

@iBug at least those are easy to fix... flake's usually descriptive (though annoying some times)

iBug

@SmokeDetector k

SmokeDetector

Conflicting feedback on Display embedded YouTube videos in markdown preview.

fp feedback on autoflagged post: Display embedded YouTube videos in markdown preview (@Floern)

iBug

Reference here, so original post spam-deleted.

Floern

duhh..

SmokeDetector

14:21

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +5 more: freesupplementrial.com/primal-alpha-beast/ by cheston elija on astronomy.SE

tpu- by iBug

Undo

14:39

@Mithrandir @Henders Principle there would be "same as what we do now, but safer". It's just playing with the order of flags... But it's also not something we need for accuracy numbers.

5 auto plus one manual , or 3 auto plus one manual plus 2 auto. Same result, less 'risk' of allowing someone who doesn't know what they're doing to delete a post. Think of it as casting flags after a tp. Again, accuracy numbers say we don't need this.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected: Python program into a standard assembly? by ergergerger on stackoverflow.com

tpu- by iBug

Mithrandir

@Undo That's essentially allowing one person to cast 3 flags with three accounts, though.

JAD

@Mithrandir how is it different to having 5 autoflags and one manual?

it's still one person that gets to nuke the post

Mithrandir

The difference is that with them first, it's not one person deciding to cast 3 flags; the flags are cast and then one person decides what to do with their flag.

That way, the autoflags are cast exclusively by the system - there's no one person deciding to cast multiple flags.

Once you start allowing users to, in effect, flag with multiple accounts, that starts to lead into dangerous territory.

JAD

I fail to see the difference, but maybe I am too preoccupied for this discussion, nevermind.

SmokeDetector

14:48

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching website in body, potentially bad keyword in body, potentially bad keyword in title: Primal Alpha Beast by thout on webapps.SE

tpu- by iBug

Mithrandir

@JAD If it only flags once someone has decided that it's spam, then it's essentially that person deciding to cast all those flags.

JAD

@Mithrandir which seems better to me than just casting those 5 flags right away?

one has a human checking whether it is correct or now, the other does not

Mithrandir

From an accuracy standpoint, yes. From a sockpuppet standpoint, no.

quartata

@thesecretmaster have you ever worked with eventmachine before?

Undo

Yeah, not worth discussing further since we don't need it.

iBug

15:02

o/ going to sleep

Have a good day, everyone.

Mithrandir

night

quartata

!!/rev

SmokeDetector

@quartata teward/Solar Flare fbcf177 (SmokeDetector: Auto watch of primal\W?alpha\W?beast by iBug --autopull)

iBug

!!/blacklist-keyword primal\W?alpha\W?beast

SmokeDetector

@iBug Blacklisted primal\W?alpha\W?beast

CI on 6a71b81 succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev 6a71b81 (SmokeDetector: Auto blacklist of primal\W?alpha\W?beast by iBug --autopull) (running on teward/Solar Flare)

Restart: API quota is 7566.

API quota rolled over with 7508 requests remaining. Current quota: 19999.

stackoverflow: 11
math: 8
writing: 7
android: 4
money: 3
serverfault: 3
academia: 2
superuser: 2
ru.stackoverflow: 1
ell: 1
codegolf: 1
apple: 1
interpersonal: 1
physics: 1
softwarerecs: 1
travel: 1
stats: 1
electronics: 1
workplace: 1
cs: 1
graphicdesign: 1
rus: 1
salesforce: 1
pets: 1
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homebrew: 1
chemistry: 1
unix: 1

Jake Symons

15:24

I'm going to be very intermittent with flagging today , lot of work to do for tomorrow :)

WELZ

!!/alive

SmokeDetector

@WELZ Watching this endless list of new questions never gets boring

Nathaniel

15:46

!!/allnotificationsites 11540

SmokeDetector

You will get notified for these sites:
christianity.stackexchange.com, latin.stackexchange.com

SmokeDetector

16:16

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer: give input on VS. give input into by Jos Ward on ell.SE

tpu- by WELZ

Jake Symons

Anyone got any public speaking tips for tomorrow?

Mithrandir

Whatever you do, don't imagine the audience in their underwear.

Jake Symons

@Mithrandir I don't really think that's a good idea with my English teacher :) Its being filmed as well, so I'll probably have to look at the camera at some poitn

ArtOfCode

@paper1111 you need a filter

thesecretmaster

16:32

@quartata AAAAAAAA

I hate that thing. I tried using it, and then I gave up after wasting a week.

SmokeDetector

17:10

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in answer, email in answer: What qualities could a hominid evolve to make it a better farmer? by Osman Ibrahim on worldbuilding.SE

tpu- by Jake Symons

quartata

17:22

!!/feedback sports.stackexchange.com/a/17733 rude

@iBug @tripleee can you show me some more recent posts of the india tour spam? this is the most recent one I see and it wouldn't be caught: metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/post/84866

Jake Symons

@Mithrandir that button we were talking about yesterday, was it this one?

Mithrandir

@JakeSymons nah, something built in to the system

Jake Symons

@Mithrandir I've been trying to find userscripts to make life easier, I might install that for a bit of fun :)

Mithrandir

I've got around 30

Jake Symons

Wow, I've been trying to find a few, but the rep one I can't get working, and others i look at userscripts have been unsupported

Mithrandir

17:35

Not all of them are public, though, or of any use to non-mods :P

Large majority of mine aren't on StackApps.

Jake Symons

@Mithrandir you have diamonds of course your going to get all the best ones :)

Mithrandir

When I'm not on mobile I'll toss you a dump of the non-mod ones I have

Jake Symons

@Mithrandir thanks, I got the flagging one (for the gold badge on every site) and autocomments (because my hands ache) and the editor one (so I can edit grind) and that's it :)

Oh and cv-pls for so close voters but I haven't got enough rep to close vote myself yet

So yeah, I've got a few, and the only reason I'm adding this last line is to see my rep score come up

Just found this Spam Generator on the StackApps

SmokeDetector

18:02

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer, bad keyword with email in answer, email in answer, pattern-matching email in answer: Why did the Ministry of Magic choose an ax for carrying out a death sentence? by Gary Hill on scifi.SE (@Mithrandir)

Mithrandir

@SmokeDetector k

Undo

> death spell to kill anyone who have scammed you in the past

hmmmmm

quartata

funny ha ha

cor that would make for a pretty good researched epic spell

hmmmm

destroy seed is just one target right

Jake Symons

@quartata I wonder if they do a spell to get more rep on SO?

quartata

I guess it'd be contact + slay then

did specify death spell

@JakeSymons that'd be better

tripleee

18:10

@quartata metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/post/107127 this?

Jake Symons

@quartata I could use it on all the "superior" people will more rep then me and take their place :)

quartata

but is "india" in the city list

unrelated note I remember now why most DMs don't like 3.5's epic rules

quartata

18:24

BotController#update_json may be the worst thing I've ever written

quartata

18:41

ok I've come to the decision I'm definitely going to have to learn eventmachine because blocking when sending batches to the slow bots like Queen is kinda unacceptable

sorry @thesecretmaster if you ever have to work with this code

WELZ

@SmokeDetector This is so amusing to read

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Username similar to website in answer: Command Line Clipboard Access by Gary Woodfine on askubuntu.com

fp- by Jake Symons

Jake Symons

18:58

Is this spam, they disclose affilation, but I wanted to check before going with naa

-1

A: Strange error for webhook from Recurly

Jonathan - is this still an issue? If so, can you send the details to [email protected] so we can debug with you?

Mithrandir

Not spam

Jake Symons

Okay, I thought I'd check before breaking Smokey with a manually reported fp

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