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12:00 PM
I suggest you read codeblog.jonskeet.uk/2010/08/29/writing-the-perfect-question - and make sure you're aware of what's on topic before posting. — Jon Skeet 25 mins ago
No affilation xd
 
@paper1111 run while you can
 
meh, flagging anyways :P
 
Jon Skeet is immutable
 
In other news: I believe the IRL section on Twitch should be split into three categories: ASMR, just chat, and actually doing stuff
I only care about the last one
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Provitazol Testosterone Booster by Provitazolreview on askubuntu.com
tpu- by John Dvorak
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: \*Results manage vacillate from abandoned by Daut per on drupal.SE
tpu- by suraj
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer: What is a bid wall? by Shadow on bitcoin.SE
tpu- by tripleee
 
12:12 PM
"💯% legitimate"
Sure
 
!!/watch coinpot\.co
 
@doppelgreener That pattern looks like it's already caught by Potentially bad keyword in answer and Potentially bad keyword in body; append -force if you really want to do that.
 
!!/watch moon(bit|b|lite|doge|dash)(co\.in|\.co|\.ch)
 
@doppelgreener Added moon(bit|b|lite|doge|dash)(co\.in|\.co|\.ch) to watchlist
 
!!/watch hashflare\.io
 
12:18 PM
@doppelgreener Added hashflare\.io to watchlist
 
!!/watch makeculous\.com
 
@doppelgreener Added makeculous\.com to watchlist
 
@SmokeDetector thank you for giving us so many simultaneous domains to watch. :D
 
CI on 9f9699e succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...
Restart: API quota is 9495.
 
hashflare.io looks like it actually should be legit
 
12:22 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +4 more: freesupplementrial.com/primal-alpha-beast/ by fcaqzwxsw on askubuntu.com
tpu- by iBug
 
makeculous is suspicious, it's a "make money from home" site
possibly a referrer URL thing?
 
!!/watch primal\W?alpha\W?beast
 
@iBug Added primal\W?alpha\W?beast to watchlist
Restart: API quota is 9451.
tp- by suraj
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted user: Microsoft Cognitive Services Custom Speech Support Contact by CRIS on stackoverflow.com
naa- by iBug
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, potentially bad keyword in body, +1 more: It is sans chance in a container so it is anything but difficult to devour. by Donce19 Virk on superuser.com
tpu- by J F
 
@SmokeDetector good catch but metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/post/102702 should really not be TP @JakeSymons
which is what caused them to be blacklisted
 
12:48 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer, mostly dots in answer: XNA(MonoGame) null exception by robi_combi on stackoverflow.com
tp- by J F
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer, mostly dots in answer: Remove bootstrap pre styling by robi_combi on stackoverflow.com
tp- by iBug
tp- by J F
 
sd 3- v - v
 
naa- by iBug
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer, mostly dots in answer: How to embed the html files for js and css by robi_combi on stackoverflow.com
tp- by suraj
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer, mostly dots in answer: Variable not declared in scope- getter/setters by robi_combi on stackoverflow.com
tp- by iBug
 
@SmokeDetector vandalism since this failed
 
@SurajRao Registered answer as true positive. If you want to blacklist the poster, use trueu or tpu.
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +4 more: freesupplementrial.com/primal-alpha-beast/ by fcaqzwxsw on apple.SE
tpu- by iBug
tpu- by J F
 
@SurajRao mof dlagged
swapped letters
 
12:52 PM
o_O
 
a rollback war is soon emerging...
...if the user remains unsuspended
 
Did you check out his user page? He was fast to update it...
 
J F
Seems they’ve stopped for a while
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching website in body: Bioxelan Skin working. Horse hockey by yarishjaha on apple.SE
tpu- by paper1111
 
meta post vandalized \o
 
12:55 PM
wtf
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Username similar to website in answer: Direct control of EV3 by pabr on bricks.SE
fp- by iBug
 
very fast
@PeterJ what does he mean?
 
@iBug from what I saw.. low quality answers (link only/images) got downvoted and vlq flagged.
 
uh, something extremely common to new useres
 
@iBug I assume he wasn't happy with the "bad behavior" of people commenting his answers could do with a bit of work
 
12:58 PM
he changed his name and avatar
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching website in body, potentially bad keyword in body, repeated URL at end of long post: CH₃(CH₂)₂CHCO₂H is a typical amino corrosive by Donce19 Virk on graphicdesign.SE
tpu- by iBug
 
one of his NAA deleted by three 20k's, including Cerbrus
another accepted but -3 deleted
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +5 more: freesupplementrial.com/primal-alpha-beast/ by user277097 on apple.SE
tpu- by iBug
 
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in body, repeating characters in body: I dont recieve a JSON response by noobprogrammer222 on stackoverflow.com
tp- by J F
 
1:09 PM
@JF You beat me to it.
 
J F
@iBug secret ninja powers :)
 
@JF next time I won't do the rollback :)
It's very interesting that Smokey catches vandalism occasionally.
I set a different sound for SO so I know whether a report is on SO or anywhere else as soon as the noti pops up
 
it scans edited posts just like new posts, and vandalism usually introduces few repeated characters or swearing, so that's no surprise
 
asd fg hjk lq werty uio pzx cv bnm.
some rare cases where Smokey would fail.
vandalizers are as dumb as spammers
 
that isn't a surprise either
 
1:15 PM
yeah
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, link following arrow in body, +2 more: What is Glovella? by Stors 19 on workplace.SE
tpu- by iBug
tpu- by tripleee
 
all vandalism hit at least one reason
mostly dots, repeating characters, no whitespace, or offensive
 
confirmation bias -- we have no idea what vandalism we are missing
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer: os.system commands by daniel on stackoverflow.com
tpu- by iBug
 
!!/test akjshdiulshdflashldfoawern,amwenrljawenf
 
1:22 PM
> Would not be caught as a post, title or username.
 
anyone check PR #1634?
 
why are you adding coffees and teas?
 
ruby tea? o_O
 
could be good
rose hips, perhaps
rose hip coffee would be ... unusual
 
@tripleee That changes greatly depending on how you define vandalism.
 
1:33 PM
they're joke commands after all
ruby maybe ambiguous, but ruby on rails is very unlikely
 
Belisarius in SOBotics is meant to catch vandalism; that includes removing code, editing in "solved", etc, which wouldn't fall under Smokey's purview.
 
Who made Belisarius?
 
Uhh, not sure. Petter, possibly?
 
I am a great fan of the jQuery meme.
 
1:38 PM
whoo, Bugs
 
(jdd-software is Petter)
 
How's that !!/checkpost command looking?
 
@iBug I like !!/scan better
 
@WELZ There's no difficulty in adding an extra alias.
So sure I can do it.
Done adding scan.
 
Cool, awesome!
 
1:48 PM
tpu- by iBug
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer, mostly non-Latin answer, no whitespace in answer: Can I update iOS on a locked phone? by Derin Yurdakul on apple.SE
tpu- by iBug
 
Someone trying to crash iOS 11.2.5 devices
 
LMAO
 
suddenly everybody is a telugu speaker
 
> Consider simplifying this complex logical expression.
wut
 
@paper1111 where?
 
2:01 PM
My PR, codeclimate's complaining
it also says that it will take 40 mins to fix...
Well I gotta dash, I'll try to make it pass codeclimate tommorow
 
I never get caught by CodeClimate
but flake8 is something tricky
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, link following arrow in body, pattern-matching website in body, +1 more: What are its impressive ingredients? by Stors 19 on superuser.com
tpu- by iBug
 
!!/allnotifications
 
@Mithrandir Missing an argument.
 
!!/allnotifications 11540
 
2:05 PM
You will get notified for these sites:
ai.stackexchange.com, literature.stackexchange.com, puzzling.stackexchange.com, scifi.stackexchange.com
 
@iBug at least those are easy to fix... flake's usually descriptive (though annoying some times)
 
@SmokeDetector k
 
Reference here, so original post spam-deleted.
 
duhh..
 
2:21 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +5 more: freesupplementrial.com/primal-alpha-beast/ by cheston elija on astronomy.SE
tpu- by iBug
 
2:39 PM
@Mithrandir @Henders Principle there would be "same as what we do now, but safer". It's just playing with the order of flags... But it's also not something we need for accuracy numbers.
5 auto plus one manual , or 3 auto plus one manual plus 2 auto. Same result, less 'risk' of allowing someone who doesn't know what they're doing to delete a post. Think of it as casting flags after a tp. Again, accuracy numbers say we don't need this.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected: Python program into a standard assembly? by ergergerger on stackoverflow.com
tpu- by iBug
 
@Undo That's essentially allowing one person to cast 3 flags with three accounts, though.
 
JAD
@Mithrandir how is it different to having 5 autoflags and one manual?
it's still one person that gets to nuke the post
 
The difference is that with them first, it's not one person deciding to cast 3 flags; the flags are cast and then one person decides what to do with their flag.
That way, the autoflags are cast exclusively by the system - there's no one person deciding to cast multiple flags.
Once you start allowing users to, in effect, flag with multiple accounts, that starts to lead into dangerous territory.
 
JAD
I fail to see the difference, but maybe I am too preoccupied for this discussion, nevermind.
 
2:48 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching website in body, potentially bad keyword in body, potentially bad keyword in title: Primal Alpha Beast by thout on webapps.SE
tpu- by iBug
 
@JAD If it only flags once someone has decided that it's spam, then it's essentially that person deciding to cast all those flags.
 
JAD
@Mithrandir which seems better to me than just casting those 5 flags right away?
one has a human checking whether it is correct or now, the other does not
 
From an accuracy standpoint, yes. From a sockpuppet standpoint, no.
 
@thesecretmaster have you ever worked with eventmachine before?
 
Yeah, not worth discussing further since we don't need it.
 
3:02 PM
o/ going to sleep
Have a good day, everyone.
 
night
 
!!/rev
 
!!/blacklist-keyword primal\W?alpha\W?beast
 
@iBug Blacklisted primal\W?alpha\W?beast
CI on 6a71b81 succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...
Restart: API quota is 7566.
API quota rolled over with 7508 requests remaining. Current quota: 19999.
stackoverflow: 11
math: 8
writing: 7
android: 4
money: 3
serverfault: 3
academia: 2
superuser: 2
ru.stackoverflow: 1
ell: 1
codegolf: 1
apple: 1
interpersonal: 1
physics: 1
softwarerecs: 1
travel: 1
stats: 1
electronics: 1
workplace: 1
cs: 1
graphicdesign: 1
rus: 1
salesforce: 1
pets: 1
security: 1
homebrew: 1
chemistry: 1
unix: 1
 
3:24 PM
I'm going to be very intermittent with flagging today , lot of work to do for tomorrow :)
 
!!/alive
 
@WELZ Watching this endless list of new questions never gets boring
 
3:46 PM
!!/allnotificationsites 11540
 
You will get notified for these sites:
christianity.stackexchange.com, latin.stackexchange.com
 
4:16 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer: give input on VS. give input into by Jos Ward on ell.SE
tpu- by WELZ
 
Anyone got any public speaking tips for tomorrow?
 
Whatever you do, don't imagine the audience in their underwear.
 
@Mithrandir I don't really think that's a good idea with my English teacher :) Its being filmed as well, so I'll probably have to look at the camera at some poitn
 
@paper1111 you need a filter
 
4:32 PM
@quartata AAAAAAAA
I hate that thing. I tried using it, and then I gave up after wasting a week.
 
5:10 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in answer, email in answer: What qualities could a hominid evolve to make it a better farmer? by Osman Ibrahim on worldbuilding.SE
tpu- by Jake Symons
 
5:22 PM
@iBug @tripleee can you show me some more recent posts of the india tour spam? this is the most recent one I see and it wouldn't be caught: metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/post/84866
 
@Mithrandir that button we were talking about yesterday, was it this one?
 
@JakeSymons nah, something built in to the system
 
@Mithrandir I've been trying to find userscripts to make life easier, I might install that for a bit of fun :)
 
I've got around 30
 
Wow, I've been trying to find a few, but the rep one I can't get working, and others i look at userscripts have been unsupported
 
5:35 PM
Not all of them are public, though, or of any use to non-mods :P
Large majority of mine aren't on StackApps.
 
@Mithrandir you have diamonds of course your going to get all the best ones :)
 
When I'm not on mobile I'll toss you a dump of the non-mod ones I have
 
@Mithrandir thanks, I got the flagging one (for the gold badge on every site) and autocomments (because my hands ache) and the editor one (so I can edit grind) and that's it :)
Oh and cv-pls for so close voters but I haven't got enough rep to close vote myself yet
So yeah, I've got a few, and the only reason I'm adding this last line is to see my rep score come up
Just found this Spam Generator on the StackApps
 
6:02 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer, bad keyword with email in answer, email in answer, pattern-matching email in answer: Why did the Ministry of Magic choose an ax for carrying out a death sentence? by Gary Hill on scifi.SE (@Mithrandir)
 
@SmokeDetector k
 
> death spell to kill anyone who have scammed you in the past
hmmmmm
 
funny ha ha
cor that would make for a pretty good researched epic spell
hmmmm
destroy seed is just one target right
 
@quartata I wonder if they do a spell to get more rep on SO?
 
I guess it'd be contact + slay then
did specify death spell
@JakeSymons that'd be better
 
@quartata I could use it on all the "superior" people will more rep then me and take their place :)
 
but is "india" in the city list
unrelated note I remember now why most DMs don't like 3.5's epic rules
 
6:24 PM
BotController#update_json may be the worst thing I've ever written
 
6:41 PM
ok I've come to the decision I'm definitely going to have to learn eventmachine because blocking when sending batches to the slow bots like Queen is kinda unacceptable
sorry @thesecretmaster if you ever have to work with this code
 
@SmokeDetector This is so amusing to read
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Username similar to website in answer: Command Line Clipboard Access by Gary Woodfine on askubuntu.com
fp- by Jake Symons
 
6:58 PM
Is this spam, they disclose affilation, but I wanted to check before going with naa
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A: Strange error for webhook from Recurly

Rachel QuickJonathan - is this still an issue? If so, can you send the details to support@recurly.com so we can debug with you?

 
Not spam
 
Okay, I thought I'd check before breaking Smokey with a manually reported fp
 

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