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9:03 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body: Apexatropin cdgdgd by user797384 on askubuntu.com
tpu- by A J
 
@iBug Mmmm would there be any places where we really need to use this?
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with a link in answer: vue-material md-tooltip causing infinite render loop by D.Kostandy on stackoverflow.com
naa- by chade_
 
@paper1111 I've been missing that from time to time, too -- even if we manage to make the fallback logic fairly foolproof, you often don't have evidence that a post wasn't in fact missed if Smokey didn't report it
 
TBH you could just !!/report it
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in title, pattern-matching website in title: bettercoloncleansingguide.com/reducelant-garcinia-ireland/ by DarbBurt on graphicdesign.SE
tpu- by tripleee
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +2 more: gronkaffedenmark.com/reducelant-garcinia/ by andalwing on graphicdesign.SE
tpu- by Mithrandir
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching website in body: Ten Unbelievable Facts About Nutralyfe Regain by aprilhausmann on astronomy.SE
tpu- by suraj
 
9:19 AM
!!/blacklist-keyword nutralyfe\W?regain
 
@tripleee That pattern looks like it's already caught by Bad keyword in body and Bad keyword in answer; append -force if you really want to do that.
 
ah, looks like it's shadowed by just "nutra"
 
always check MS before blacklisting
I'm trying to test the code with python3 ws.py but it's always telling me "timeout" when logging in.
I'm using Windows Subsystem and not sure if it's the cause.
 
where in the code do you get that from?
I vaguely remember something like that but it's been a while... you have websocket-client (not websocket) installed via pip?
 
9:34 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: and wide enhance mind iq Reviews Well by Tandy ned on drupal.SE
tpu- by iBug
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: How to learn Django in Django Documention? by Ashutosh on stackoverflow.com
tpu- by iBug
 
@iBug are you using a SE OpenID?
 
not sure about that, but probably yes
 
@angussidney *an
 
@M.A.R. that sounds better.... but a is technically correct
 
@angussidney Is it though?
 
9:38 AM
@iBug in other words you log in with username+password, not via Google or FB or something
 
You said it yourself. It sounds better
 
Yes, that's true
 
@M.A.R. I was taught in school that you use an when it starts with a vowel, a if it's a consonant
 
@M.A.R. Well, that depends on how you pronounce it.
If you say "ESS EE" it's "an", if you say "Stack Exchange" it's "a"
so like "in an hour", "a user"
 
an M-ithrandir
 
9:40 AM
@Mithrandir yup
And everyone should pronounce it the way I do
 
I see an M.A.R. over here with a slightly inflated head :P
 
@angussidney That's a good general rule, but it's more complicated than that.
 
@Mithrandir That is because I'm smarter than you, simpleton
 
No need for a new command, just augment the original one
 
9:41 AM
I'm trying in my Ubuntu 16.04 in VMware
 
@Mithrandir yeah, your definiton makes more sense
 
@angussidney it's about pronunciation, not letters
Not complicated, really. Dunno why they don't teach it right
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +3 more: click for more info.<<@>> www.formulat10blog.net/hydrabelle/ by mackkjerry on superuser.com
tpu- by iBug
 
@iBug if you're going to be doing development more often, I highly recommend dual-booting. It makes life a lot easier. That's what I do on both my computers
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer: Opera Turbo disables VPN extension's proxy by solar movies on superuser.com
tpu- by iBug
 
9:43 AM
I think WSL + VMware is enough for me
 
AFAIK @Undo started some work on the manual report scanning thingy, I'm not sure if his work is still around for you to pick up from
 
In fact I have another Ubuntu 16.04 installed physically on my computer, but I rarely use it.
The issue seems good.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, +6 more: firstnutritionfacts.com/ph375-review/ by user277065 on apple.SE
tpu- by iBug
 
@Undo That sounds very dangerously close to sockpuppeting to me.
 
The !!/scan idea, as opposed to !!/report, would probably make more sense as a !!/test-url command
So then it fits in with the rest of the commands
 
9:54 AM
Maybe !!/test-post?
 
Something like that
 
I'll give it a try
The function name is going to be checkpost with alias test-post
 
@Mithrandir Taking auto flagging action based on a single user's decision (trusted or not) doesn't sit right with me either. Wasn't one of the conditions for auto flagging that it wasn't to be based on user input but triggered by the bot deciding what it thought was spam?
 
@angussidney "dual boot" and "easy life" is not reconcileable, maybe check out Docker after all?
 
@iBug Shouldn't you add to test?
 
9:58 AM
No. That's different
 
@tripleee you're convincing me :)
 
use Docker as production environment?
 
@iBug same thing, all you have to do is fetch the post from the API and create a fakepost object
 
refreshing!
 
@iBug dunno what the status of Docker on Windows is, my first recommendation is always to try life without Windows
 
10:00 AM
oh no, I have not reviewed the "fetch post from API" part.
@tripleee Linux runs well in VMware
 
@tripleee requires Windows 10 Pro or something stupid like that I think
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, blacklisted user: Apexatropin fdgff by user797384 on askubuntu.com
tpu- by iBug
 
...pharma spammer who reused their account...
 
@SmokeDetector some of these titles are starting to look like keyboard mash.....
 
if only spammers could use their accounts to star my questions
 
10:03 AM
Btw @iBug I'm now trying your "don't scan posts if community bumps" issue. Do you think if searching MS for the same content with the same url would work?
 
Starring questions doesn't give you any badges or anything
 
@angussidney sure it does
 
@paper1111 Too complex.
Just check the last report of the same post.
 
@Mithrandir Really?
 
"Favorite Question" (25 favorites) and "Stellar Question" (100 favorites)
 
10:03 AM
TIL, thanks
 
Mith's right.
Looks like angus doesn't participate on any Meta much
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +3 more: supplimenttop.com/lyaxtin-male-enhancement/ by antos nali98 on workplace.SE
tpu- by iBug
 
A J
@SmokeDetector Till now, I have seen male enhancement, and now this... Uff!
 
@iBug I don't participate on any SE sites as much as I used to
 
uh, MS admins
 
10:05 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, +1 more: Along these lines, it's an opportunity to trust by Hadd19 Virk on superuser.com
tpu- by iBug
 
Ooh goodie, I just got a 'Famous question' badge on one of my questions: superuser.com/questions/979528/…
 
I see a number 1 on "review" but I don't see anything
 
Maybe there's a bug where skipped questions make the icon appear
Because I see it
 
@iBug We can't query SE (wasted API quota), so I think getting the post from MS API would be better... maybe using /api/v2/posts/urls?
@laff fa
 
There are 2 unhandled reports, 0 of which are on your ignore list.
 
10:06 AM
@laff o
 
Error occurred: 404 Client Error: Not Found for url: reports.socvr.org/api/create-report (cc @Baum)
 
@quartata Laff still uses SOCVR API, time to update to the SOBotics one
 
@paper1111 I mean, just compare the post retrieved from SE with the last report on MS
 
@iBug The last report on MS by that url? Or all posts?
 
so that's something on the MS side, not the SD side
 
10:07 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Username similar to website in answer: Magento 2 how to apply shipping per product? by MageAnts on stackoverflow.com
 
@paper1111 by the same URL, of course
 
tpu- by iBug
 
@iBug So /api/v2/posts/urls. Let me do that now.
 
@SmokeDetector CV that question as well
 
@iBug flagged
 
JAD
10:10 AM
@iBug spam seed?
 
@JAD OT for SO
GeForce experience is kinds dickhead.
 
Is there an order for items returned by the MS API?
 
It's showing overlay on VMware window.
 
@paper1111 If not just sort by report time.
 
10:13 AM
There are "posts.post_creation_date, posts.created_at and posts.updated_at"... Which should I use?
 
ask someone else I don't know
 
@angussidney?
 
The second two sound like internal Rails creation/edit times for the actual database entries
The first one is probably the SE response
Maybe not
Actually yes
 
try fetching some and compare with SE
 
But don't quote me on that, Art and Undo are the people to talk to
 
10:18 AM
You fetch a post from MS and open it in your browser
then compare the data
 
@iBug I don't have a key XDXDXD
 
I'm going for the !!/checkpost command
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, +7 more: firstnutritionfacts.com/ph375-review/ by huyduherti on askubuntu.com
tpu- by iBug
tpu- by tripleee
 
@paper1111 do you need an API key?
For MS that is
 
@angussidney I don't need it actually, just writing a PR for smokey that requires talking with MS... Whatever I'll just search all the revisions of that URL and not care about wether it is the latest or not
 
10:25 AM
Let me know if you do, it's easy peasy to get
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in body, email in body: How I got my money lost to online fraud back by Kimberley Rodgers on money.SE
tpu- by iBug
 
Ah?
autoflagged with reason weight only 103?
someone check what went wrong
 
It's those user's settings
 
Doppelgreener has his set to 100 on 5 sites - money, AU, AD, TWP, GD
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: Unexpectedly actually reported longest interim without by Cande19 Virk on graphicdesign.SE
 
10:33 AM
99.77% accurate, so allowed
 
tpu- by iBug
 
So it's allowed to set to a lower value on specific sites?
as long as it does not drop below 99.5%?
 
Yep
For instance, I have mine set to 175ish on the top 6ish spammed sites, and 270 everywhere else
 
I set everywhere 158
 
Wow, Floren has quite a selection of conditions set up
 
10:37 AM
how many conditions?
 
6ish
 
hey angus, if I set multiple conditions for one site, what's the outcome?
 
Lol, I forgot to turn off autoflagging for my sock
 
only one needs to be satisfied, or all?
 
@iBug I don't know, but I'm assuming that the lowest will work
 
10:40 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, +6 more: getnutritionshelp.com/premier-t-boost/ by hnkkutczk on askubuntu.com
tpu- by iBug
 
@ArtOfCode are the accounts used to flag based on a pool of accounts which have a matching condition or a pool of conditions which match the criteria, and then the flag is cast on the matching account? I just thought of a possible abuse vector
 
abuse vector?
 
I'll share later when I hear the response
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in answer: Generated Pdf has got bookmark corrupted in acrobat DC version by Elle Stephen on stackoverflow.com
tpu- by iBug
 
I have an idea to set a site's accuracy to very low
maybe 100~110
any site
wow
@angussidney Check condition 330 with your MS admin privilege.
that's surprising
 
10:51 AM
Interesting
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body: How to run hdparm at startup so that it sets apm to 254? by a deleted user on superuser.com
fp- by iBug
 
But by specifying minimum reason count to be 2, you're automatcially ensuring a high level of accuracy
 
yeah, so then I can autoflag everything with 2 reasons
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer, linked punctuation in answer, potentially bad keyword in answer: electron - acceder a la webcam by user76082 on es.stackoverflow.com (@iBug)
 
one can set a minimun weight that it should be for an arbitrary site
 
10:53 AM
tpu- by iBug
 
just bring AU, SU, Drupal, Astronomy, Apple and whatever frequently spammed site
and they will help lower the weight required.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: This male liberator assistants in by Forts per on drupal.SE
tpu- by iBug
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer, linked punctuation in answer, potentially bad keyword in answer: Accessing Webcam when implementing webcam security by johnwebcamer on stackoverflow.com
tpu- by iBug
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: PureCbdOilDrops 00 by gozujiha on stackoverflow.com
tpu- by tripleee
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, +1 more: Phytolast offer by miwzqtyke on drupal.SE
tpu- by iBug
 
A J
@SmokeDetector seriously naa? O.o
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, +6 more: firstnutritionfacts.com/ph375-review/ by kaylan daejon on astronomy.SE
tpu- by iBug
 
@AJ Porn site in punctuation, you say?
!!/blacklist-website webcam-porno\.es
 
11:07 AM
@iBug Blacklisted webcam-porno\.es
tpu- by iBug
CI on 425946e succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...
Restart: API quota is 10172.
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: of each a class enduring from entire by Lains1977 on askubuntu.com
tpu- by iBug
 
!!/watch male\W?liberator
 
@iBug Added male\W?liberator to watchlist
tpu- by iBug
 
Just had to see my English teacher at the start of break, I have my English gcse, like the actual exam tommorrow and I've only just been told
@SmokeDetector k
@SmokeDetector k
 
@JakeSymons that sounds absolutely fantasitc </sarcasm>
 
CI on e91374a succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...
 
11:13 AM
I wish you the best of luck
 
[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev e91374a (SmokeDetector: Auto watch of male\W?liberator by iBug --autopull) (running on teward/Solar Flare)
Restart: API quota is 10134.
 
@angussidney Thanks, its the speaking one I've only drafted it on google docs
 
A J
@iBug yes
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, link following arrow in body, +2 more: What is all about the Glovella? by Deace 19 on drupal.SE
tpu- by iBug
 
@SmokeDetector normally I wouldn't invalidate a TP/NAA feedback combo, but this is waaaay off
 
11:17 AM
@angussidney you cleared the NAA?
 
Yeah
 
seems so
I found an exploit
if you create a condition consisting only of Stack Overflow, you have to set it to somewhere 192 ~ 197
however, if you accompany SO with AU, SU, Apple, Meta, Drupal, GD, Arqade, Workplace, Astronomy
you'll be able to lower it down to 117
and you can still set a separate condition for those 9 sites with 100
 
I specifically do that myself
 
@doppelgreener what?
 
Doesn't setting too low of a condition mostly just hurt the attacker?
 
11:22 AM
yeah that's the thing
 
AU, SU, Apple, Meta, Drupal, GD, Arqade, Workplace, Astronomy
 
... why, @doppelgreener?
 
Oh, actually, I guess I don't do exactly that.
 
You can set these 9 sites' min weight to zero, with minimum reason set too 2
I just set the weight to a negative number and saved :)
 
11:24 AM
I have one filter covering all sites, and one filter covering 5 sites. Those 5 have a much higher true positive rating than any others, and get a lot of spam, so I group them together to set my autoflag weight much lower on those sites.
 
you can increase the 5 to 9
 
The exploit here is just that the autoflag leeway is based on an average of all sites in the collection.
 
yes
 
@iBug I have Ask Ubuntu, Personal Finance, Ask Different (Apple), Graphic Design and The Workplace in those 5.
 
Drupal is a must-add
 
11:27 AM
wow, that site gets an insane amount of spam & true positives.
Ok, added that one to my threshold of 100 as well.
 
@doppelgreener so you should add it
 
@iBug wow. O_O
now i see what you were getting at
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching website in body: Tribulus Terrestris For Boy by ianneinger on graphicdesign.SE
tpu- by iBug
 
negative number just for joking
 
@iBug I would highly recommend removing the negative, it shouldn't break MS but we don't exactly have the best testing process for bugs like those :)
 
11:30 AM
setting to -1
I am iBug
 
@iBug Apple's ?
 
right
if you see my profile on Apple, the display name is Apple iBug
the prefix doesn't exist everywhere else
 
What's that Unicode character that crashes all Apple devices?
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title: Piracetol Review The Best Solution to Improve Brain Power? by piracetolrev on superuser.com
tpu- by iBug
 
@JohnDvorak Telugu character (ఞ)
It is fixed now IIRC
 
11:37 AM
@SurajRao well since you just pasted it we'll probably find out :P
it hasn't crashed my work mac
 
it doesn't crash my Windows :)
 
says so here
 
It only works in the notification bar and other system places. In chat, it should only take down Chrofari
 
This isn't the first time that something like this has happened, right?
Apple seems to have serious problems with international characters crashing systems
 
11:41 AM
anyone can breach a Mac with root and an empty password
 
the first time the dialog will say an error message, the second time you proceed
 
Anyone can breach any computer that isn't encrypted using a bootable linux USB drive
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in link text in answer, pattern-matching website in answer: Dependence after absolutely continuous transformation by jeannecarlson on math.SE
tpu- by iBug
 
That's..... totally not why I always carry one around with me
 
11:43 AM
If you have physical access, a good ole hammer will do
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, +6 more: firstnutritionfacts.com/ph375-review/ by huyduherti on astronomy.SE
tpu- by iBug
 
why hammer?
 
I use a screw combo
so I can dismantle or disassemble repair virtually everything
 
@SurajRao Fortunately my Mac didn't crash (using it now) xD
 
11:48 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Unable to telnet out on port 25 on windows server 2008 by Vimal Raj on serverfault.com
fp- by iBug
 
JAD
@SmokeDetector naa-
 
@SmokeDetector n
@JohnDvorak spam
 
JAD
@iBug k
 
I'm not affiliated, but deleting anyways
 
@JAD [:42957772] That message is not a report.
 
11:50 AM
@iBug it is
 
@ArtOfCode/@Undo email in your inboxes about something that I found. Sorry if it sounds like I wrote it while half asleep, because I was.
 
JAD
@JohnDvorak blacklisted user
;)
 
@JAD why
 
JAD
:42957772 <- that one
huh, that doesn't work
d'oh
 
Anyways... time to move my spam somewhere they will like it.
 
JAD
11:53 AM
meh, it doesn't want to onebox deleted comments :(
 
Just to clarify: do you really think it's spam?
 
JAD
me? not really
 
Any SO mods around that can delete this meta post that got locked due to a failed migration?
 
Night all o/
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +3 more: newfitnesssupplements.com/max-trim-fx/ by archietschida on astronomy.SE
tpu- by iBug
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer: Extracting mobile camera information by user9385514 on stackoverflow.com
tpu- by iBug
 

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