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9:00 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link following arrow in body, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title, repeated URL at end of long post: megacleanseradvice.com/kamasutra-male-enhancement-formula/ by Peter Cozz on graphicdesign.SE
tpu- by Glorfindel
 
@SmokeDetector k
@SmokeDetector k
 
@Glorfindel what was our stance on blacklisting websites that already get pattern matched again?
Don't, right?
 
!!/blacklist-keyword celaxas
 
@Glorfindel Blacklisted celaxas
 
@Magisch we haven't decided yet.
 
9:02 AM
!!/blacklist-keyword celexas
 
@Glorfindel It's celexas btw
 
@tripleee Blacklisted celexas
 
Not celaxas
 
@Glorfindel that one seems to be misspelled, only one TP
 
@Glorfindel downsides to choosing a unique name to spam
 
9:03 AM
Ah sorry, thanks for noticing.
 
Celexas maybe?
 
they had both variants, it was misspelled in one or two places but also occurred with the correct spelling
 
CI on 82eaa19 succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...
Restart: API quota is 6237.
 
Hehehehe, who the hell spams without knowing how to spell the product name correctly? Idiots
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body: Brain Formula For Success by loziwanux on workplace.SE
 
9:05 AM
@M.A.R. if people who search for it can't spell it correctly, that actually makes some sense
 
tpu- by tripleee
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in link text in body: Your dell laptop generate noying sound after starting? by Dell Laptop Support uk on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)
tpu- by tripleee
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in username: How Can We Send Gmail Hangout Videos Through Gmail? by Yahoo support Number on askubuntu.com (@ThomasWard)
tpu- by Glorfindel
 
!!/test-a nutritionplan
 
> Would not be caught as an answer.
 
!!/blacklist-keyword nutrition.*plan
 
@Magisch Blacklisted nutrition.*plan
 
9:06 AM
@SmokeDetector k
 
blanket wildcards are problematic, maybe don't do that?
 
That one above is 73/1 on MS
 
@SmokeDetector k
 
CI on 67df295 succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...
Restart: API quota is 6216.
 
9:07 AM
@tripleee I think it's ok since it's 73/1 in search atm but if you think its bad feel free to remove it
 
!!/blacklist-website gonetech\.net
 
@Glorfindel Blacklisted gonetech\.net
 
it will span any amount of text -- "I have a problem with searching for nutrition values in this web app, I can search for carbohydrates and fat etc just fine but not calories. I don't know how to proceed. What would be a good plan?"
 
Well yeah
But I also found only 1 FP of that happening
So I think the risk is acceptable. But again, if you feel it's too broad, feel free to remove it again
 
"nutrition" doesn't occur as a prefix of any useful other word and I can find no words which end with "plan" which aren't related to planning, so this is relatively safe
 
9:09 AM
CI on c66fa38 succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...
 
but in the general case, you run a high risk of experiencing the scunthorpe problem
 
Restart: API quota is 6207.
 
additionally, Art previously advised to limit the length (I guess for performance reasons?) with something like nutrition.{0,123}plan
tough with posts generally being rather short, I'm not sure if that is always strictly necessary
 
@tripleee For the above rule nutrition.{0,100}plan still catches that one FP but loses about 34 valid TPs
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in username, blacklisted website in body: What if a normal Person use this? by diabazolereview on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)
tpu- by Glorfindel
 
9:16 AM
@tripleee Actually I made a PR to remove it just now
We may need a seperate rule for this excluding fitness.SE
That seems like it may have legit use of the term
 
a separate rule would be easier to handle yes, +1
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Getting the constant output in neural network by mehedi37 on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)
naa- by tripleee
tpu- by Yvette
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: How does a layman get a 3D printed replacement part? by mehedi37 on 3dprinting.SE
tpu- by Glorfindel
 
Strike 2 for tipstune.net
 
!!/blacklist-website tipstune\.net
 
@Glorfindel Blacklisted tipstune\.net
 
9:20 AM
Beat me to it
 
CI on 36bb3ac succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...
Restart: API quota is 6124.
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer, repeating words in answer: Geopolitical and Economic Implications of a Large Eruption at Yellowstone by Stuff on worldbuilding.SE
tpu- by Glorfindel
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: Fulfilling and to overhaul its by LeleBchor on askubuntu.com (@ThomasWard)
 
@SmokeDetector k
 
SD k - k
That should totally be an emoticon or something
 
@M.A.R. k_K
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, link following arrow in body, pattern-matching website in body: MuscleX TST 1700 Keep doing cardio exercises by IrwinMolina on drupal.SE
tpu- by Glorfindel
 
9:35 AM
I loaded it right when it popped and still didn't get to flag
Curse you latency
 
Imagine what happens once we're allowed to crank up the max # of autoflags to 5 ...
 
May as well rename the channel to "Glorfindel's Spam Review Queue" then
:p
 
Glorfindeleee HQ
 
9:48 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: Get Bigger Breast Without Surgery by Cyszsloi on askubuntu.com (@ThomasWard)
tpu- by Glorfindel
 
room topic changed to Charcoal HQ: Where diamonds are made, smoke is detected, and we break things by developing on production. 46,000 true positives and counting. Oneboxes are awesome. Handy links: charcoal-se.org, github.com/Charcoal-SE, charcoal-se.org/blaze [best-bad-practices] [dev-on-prod] [panic-driven-development] [plastic-knives]
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: Ascend garcinia cambogia supplement by Hadd1963 on workplace.SE
tpu- by Glorfindel
 
I'm going to open up a YouTube channel, livestreaming Charcoal HQ. I'll call it Gone in 6-8 seconds.
 
10:03 AM
I'm imagining a charcoal hq live stream
[5 minutes silence] oooh, there is one [10s later] its gone, back to waiting
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] No whitespace in answer: Leaflet Esri Geocoding Search Control - search box outside map by heil hitler on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)
tpu- by Glorfindel
 
\o morning peeps
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title: freesoftwareskeys.com/recuva-pro-full-version-crack-free-download/ by MariHid on apple.SE
 
Morning!
 
tpu- by Glorfindel
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Download Quick Heal Total Security Videos With Qttube by gfdedser on drupal.SE
 
10:08 AM
@SmokeDetector k
 
TFW you get to it just before it's deleted but it is deleted while the flag dialog loads
 
naa- by Glorfindel
 
@DavidPostill o/
 
@Magisch also known as huh? why can I only flag this post for moderator attention?
2
 
Downsides of lightning fast spam fighting
 
10:14 AM
When you look at it one way, what we do here makes our lives look a little sad. We sit around, waiting for some person to post some spam, get beaten to the flags by our robot overloads servants, then proceed to fight over the remaining flags in order to increase a meaningless stat on a random site on the internet.
 
We could also be playing cookie clicker...
 
From another point of view, we are successfully eradicating spam on one of the top 50 sites on the internet, developing cutting-edge fighting techniques, and chatting while robots do our dirty work for us.
 
@ByteCommander I did play cookie clicker
and got the achievment of beating it without a autoclicker
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Consuming licorice everyday for a few several by user656631 on askubuntu.com (@ThomasWard)
tpu- by Glorfindel
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, link at end of body, repeated URL at end of long post: freesoftwareskeys.com/winrar-full-crack-license-key-keygen/ by griffith on drupal.SE
tpu- by Glorfindel
 
@SmokeDetector I also know some keys to download the full version of winrar: 7-zip.org
 
10:24 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: Ascend garcinia cambogia to yourself "I in a general by humarioslind24 on workplace.SE
tpu- by Glorfindel
 
@Undo @ArtOfCode the autoflagged FP list includes posts which were autoflagged but didn't receive any feedback yet. As this link features in the Meta post, it's probably worth fixing this upfront.
 
@angussidney but 7zip can only read rars, not create them, right?
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported question: How to Fix the Riemann Zeta Function by The Artist on mathoverflow.net
 
^ the MathOverflow crank again.
 
tpu- by DavidPostill
 
10:29 AM
@Glorfindel They are spam not abusive, right?
 
I flagged as spam - the author is promoting his own work in the link in the comment.
 
Ditto
 
@SmokeDetector k
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in link text in answer: How much memory is enough for a Windows 2008 VPS? by a deleted user on serverfault.com
fp- by Yvette
 
10:39 AM
tpu- by DavidPostill
 
@YvetteColomb That's spam. Look at the user name.
 
@ByteCommander I know, I was just making a joke about how it's generally not worth paying for WinRar unless in obscure cases
 
@DavidPostill ok, wasn't sure
 
@angussidney ninja'd
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, bad keyword in username, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title: maleenhancementshop.info/sonix-garcinia/ by Sonix Garcinia on drupal.SE
tpu- by Glorfindel
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Pure Nitro Max is besides astoundingly pleasing in sprints by artsevilla on askubuntu.com (@ThomasWard)
tpu- by J F
 
10:53 AM
@Glorfindel I wonder just how few hobbies someone must have to keep spamming that
 
J F
@Magisch <ad> coal notifies you with a desktop notification when Smokey reports a post. Once you click the notification, you have ~1 second to read the post before it opens the flag dialog automatically. </ad>
 
innovative name, coal
I can't do desktop notifications at work though
 
Why?
 
Installing non work software is forbidden (on the pc)
 
@JF by "unzipped archive" in the build instructions, do you mean the cloned repo?
 
10:58 AM
tampermonkey isn't considered software itself
 
J F
@JanDvorak Yes
 
well, that could be tweaked
 
J F
hm?
 
You won't be unzipping it if you clone the repo via Git instead of downloading it.
 
J F
 
11:02 AM
Thanks.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title: Junivive Cream - Fast Crease Reducer Solution dans la catégorie "CANADA" by juniviveinfr on workplace.SE
tpu- by J F
 
Now I'm torn on where to unzip it.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title: cleanserenewnorway.com/retinolla-med-revoluxe/ by geomory on askubuntu.com (@ThomasWard)
tpu- by Jan Dvorak
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: VMware machine id unique? by henbill on superuser.com
tpu- by Yvette
 
^^^ Doesn't answer the question and promotes a commercial product.
 
@DavidPostill agree
 
11:13 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in body: Quick Heal Total Security Download by Frecioxlg on apple.SE
tpu- by J F
 
Hmm... how do I add userscripts to the Electron page?
 
fp- by Glorfindel
 
J F
@JanDvorak here
Use $.getScript for regular userscripts; ones that are in the Charcoal-SE/userscripts repo can be named in getUserScripts.
 
Thanks. Is this Javascript? Where are the semicolons?
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Lg Arena TC1200 Tactical Flashlight by jackiespuff on drupal.SE
tpu- by Glorfindel
 
J F
11:22 AM
@JanDvorak Last seen reading this
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: It is an all-typical supplement xtest pills by Thathis1942 on workplace.SE
tpu- by J F
 
That's a pretty awful rule
 
J F
why? It makes the code look less dense IMO
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title: supplementplatform.com/testo-ultra-es/ by Fredguidry on drupal.SE
tpu- by J F
 
11:26 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: increase metabolism. reduce faster by fzot on askubuntu.com (@ThomasWard)
tpu- by J F
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in answer, email in answer: How to negate the effects of long-term close relative inbreeding in a ruling dynasty? by nugina on worldbuilding.SE
tpu- by J F
 
J F
@JanDvorak I don’t have a single code semicolon in coal, and if I hit one of the edge cases, the linter would warn me live.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: Each man needs to xtest pills wonderment by Tha this on workplace.SE
tpu- by J F
 
I don't think I'll have the linter kick in if I clone the repo and edit the source code?
 
J F
@JanDvorak Not unless you have it installed in your editor.
afk
 
I don't think I want to enforce this style guide on all of my javascript files
"Refused to execute script from 'https://github.com/honnza/drops/raw/master/so-chat-user-colors.user.js?_=148759‌​0666396' because its MIME type ('text/plain') is not executable, and strict MIME type checking is enabled." - how do I fix this?
Tampermonkey accepts the URL just fine.
 
J F
11:40 AM
@JanDvorak Use RawGit.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted username, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, repeated URL at end of long post: that have a sole purpose of informing consumers by kranne juriya on drupal.SE
 
Thanks.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title, repeated URL at end of long post: luxmuscle.com/xtest/ by kunaldibnwo24 on workplace.SE
 
Good news: the userscript runs just fine because it doesn't rely on any GM functionality. Bad news: it thinks I've copy-pasted it into the console, and shows a bunch of debug stuff that would be appropriate if I actually did.
 
tpu- by Floern
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in answer: How to fix unresponsive behaviour of the Yahoo mail account? by carol loomis on mathoverflow.net
tpu- by Glorfindel
 
11:45 AM
What should be flagged in this case?
 
nuke the spam-seed question too?
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported question: How to fix unresponsive behaviour of the Yahoo mail account? by carol loomis on mathoverflow.net
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in answer: Assignment help updating amounts of each item for "shipments" and "orders" in a specific city by oli on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)
tpu- by Glorfindel
 
@Floern yeah, in this case it's blatantly obvious. It's also a known spammer.
 
known to whom?
 
to us
 
11:48 AM
That's ... a good start, I guess...
 
We pretty much are the canonical database/SOK for SE spam, so...
 
True. But the mods still have to know they should agree with us.
 
A moderator encountering this Q&A will nuke the question as well, especially if it's from the same user.
 
@JanDvorak Mods will be able see the deleted spam answer. I left a comment to help "Spam seed for spam answer."
 
@ArtOfCode Outside of a dataset of all spam and abusive deleted posts on the network, you couldn't get more accurate results then our DB
Which reminds me
that'd be something nice to request from the CMs
If we could get this data we could test-run our new spamchecks against it
 
11:59 AM
@Magisch How would that help us improve smokey?
 
More accurate accuracy measurement
 
Having a dataset of all spam could be valueable for identifiying patterns that eluded us until now and were simply handled without our involvement
We could match that against the public data dump and essentially have a MS version of ALL of SE to search against
 
Sounds like a lot of work for little gain :)
 
This is now going live and is subject to our copyright. Could you please delete the code above? — ItsMeDom May 12 '14 at 9:29
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title: wellnessfeeds.com/pure-nitro-max/ by jackbroce on apple.SE
 
12:04 PM
Some OP underneath an answer to his question
lel
 
tpu- by Glorfindel
 
12:15 PM
Am I correct in assuming the announcement isn't posted yet?
 
Yes you are.
 
'kay :-)
 
@Cerbrus Pending Undo waking up
and undo approving the go-ahead
 
We could help undo @wake up :P
@Magisch: TFW you get to a spam post in time to flag it, only to see you've already flagged it. Self-ninja.
 
Also pending art arriving I guess
 
12:27 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of body: Strategies for this 2d shooting game by Guardian on gaming.SE
 
hmm... too broad?
 
fp- by Glorfindel
 
Maybe, IDK how strict they are on Gaming SE.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, repeated URL at end of long post: Gain XT: The Best Review? by radleyreeman on askubuntu.com (@ThomasWard)
 
@SmokeDetector k
 
12:31 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title: healthpluscogni.com/parisian-glow/ by zhpu wasi on apple.SE
tpu- by Magisch
 
I can't seem to login to Metasmoke from Coal. It says "invalid email or password", but the same login works in Firefox.
I suspect encoding issues.
Is there a way to change your Metasmoke password?
 
@JanDvorak I think there's a "forgot password" mechanism in the sign in page that lets you do that
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: Building pure nitro max by Figh1968 on workplace.SE
tpu- by Jan Dvorak
 
ninja'd again :/
 
12:37 PM
Oh well. Thanks
 
I had the flag dialog open on that one :(
 
Password changed. Hopefully low-ASCII only password will be okay with Coal.
 
@Mithrandir Me too
 
I remember that there was an argument for not automatically nuking a post once it's gotten a few tpus, but I can't remember what it was...
Like, aside from CM permission.
 
fp- by Jan Dvorak
 
12:51 PM
@SmokeDetector f
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer, bad keyword in link text in answer, pattern-matching website in answer: Writing Topology file for Ligand for Gromacs by Johny Thomas on chemistry.SE
 
@SmokeDetector k
 
Does smokey do anything to check users that register?
 
^ flags as Unclear what you're asking
No, seriously, I don't know what you mean.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Favicon is not showing if the URL starts with by Muhammad Farhan on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)
 
12:59 PM
If you mean to ask whether Smokey detects new user registrations: it doesn't. I'm not sure that is even possible via the API.
 
Some users are obvious spam users based on the account and website/etc
 
Yes, true. They even post spam content into their profile, but nothing seems to be done about that.
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Q: We should be more watchful of 0-activity spam users

Jeff MercadoToday I was running some data queries in the data explorer and ran across some interesting user profiles. In particular, I was looking to see whom of those who states their location said San Diego (where I live). http://data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/516379 LockTechs San Diego Per...

 
There's not a way to effectively flag users that haven't posted either though
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: joint exertion is other than offering by yumigeha24 on workplace.SE
tpu- by Glorfindel
 
Yes, and some SE officials even say something along the lines of it's your profile, you can do anything you want there, as long as you don't offend anyone.
That includes posting spam content. After all, who visits the profile of a user who hasn't even posted yet?
 
1:02 PM
@Glorfindel that seems to be my line: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/329251/…
 
You're SE's official flower, but I meant that I remember a CM saying something similar. Or I might have mixed things up, who knows ...
 
It's also a lot of process work to deal with user profiles without actual posts, too
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer, pattern-matching website in answer: what is the correct way to update a plugin via tortoise svn to the repository? by Jolly Wolly on wordpress.SE
tpu- by Glorfindel
 
I see why you guys get so many accounts throughout the network here. LOL
 
@enderland I have all of them, I think :)
 
bwahahah
 
Well looks like I will miss the start of the fun. AFK from the next couple of hours :/
 
Well, the preparation might take a couple of hours as well.
 
0
Q: What kind of spammer/scammer operates by removing a tag from a question?

Vidar S. RamdalQuite often I am notified of a suggested edit by an anonymous user on How do I recover my Google account (or Gmail) password or username. For example today: http://webapps.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/84294 Like today, the only suggested change is to remove the password-recovery ta...

 
1:34 PM
So if I'm doing a one-click setup for autoflagging, what should it set up? 280/1/1, obviously, but on what sites? And how many flags should I allocate?
 
all sites, 50% flags
all sites except where the user's active, 100% flags
 
@ArtOfCode 280/1/1 All sites, 50 flags would be good
 
J F
@ArtOfCode I put 8 for the sites I don’t use and 20 for SO because I have lots of flags there.
 
@JF Ideally, this would only have to set up one preference. It's okay if it's over your limit, because if you have no flags the system will just move on
 
@ArtOfCode what's currently the record for maximum # of autoflags for a single user, single site, single day? For me, it's 6, and I have my conditions quite low (195/1/1). I expect all settings higher than 10 (autoflags per site per day) will never have an effect at all.
 
1:42 PM
@Glorfindel not a clue, I don't have query access, but I suspect you're right
 
<time of day> all
 
J F
I just noticed that my flag on this got disputed. Any ideas why?
 
@JF because <reasons>? :)
 
@JF looks signature-ish at first glance
 
1:46 PM
it might have been deleted as non-spam
if it was a legitimate answer? I don't speak French or whatever language that is to know
 
It is at least an attempt to an answer in French.
 
It was a comment, not an answer
 
The link was edited away from a 30K, then rolled back and then deleted by Martijn
 
@Andy I left a comment on the meta draft
You have a missing explaination in there
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: Undefined behaviour or not undefined behaviour by Muntazir Abbas on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)
 
1:48 PM
@SmokeDetector k
 
@ArtOfCode for me the weight is 175, enabled on all sites, max flags 100 and minimum reason count is 2
 
Given that this is getting posted on MSO, it's probably worth setting it up to only enable on SO - for now, at least.
 
J F
Any progress on giving current members priority for autoflags?
 
@ArtOfCode many users will have an account on SO only (or just a handful of other sites), so I doubt that will matter.
 
1:51 PM
@JF not yet
 
J F
You or Undo could add everyone into a new role for future implementation.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive body detected: Why curl php get another html by Gim Cai on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)
 
probably NSFW, I don't dare to look ...
 
tpu- by Glorfindel
 

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