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12:01 AM
Yeah, so the syntax doesn't work but the idea does.
 
12:18 AM
yeah, we're showing tps on the fp page now
 
oh. right.
55571 has a latent feedback cache, somehow
Cleared feedback.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in body: Giving an object a list of objects - Java by Darragh Cahill on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)
 
sd v
 
J F
@SmokeDetector v
 
12:33 AM
It would be neat if SD could automatically rollback and leave a comment when it receives a v feedback
Maybe I'll work on that when I'm bored
 
Main issue is we'd need rep
lots of rep
 
true
for most sites, we don't have any editors though
maybe it could just suggest an edit, and any editors in here could vote to approve it
 
Except we can't suggest edits through the API
 
really? userscript then, I guess
 
Heh. You'll run into issues with fkeys there :)
 
12:40 AM
Art has a bot suggesting edits
oops, wrong link
afk
 
1:11 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in body: Extracting specific patient IDs from email subject line by j.reyes on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)
 
@NobodyNada and the code for that was not fun to write
@Undo how do you do backups for the metasmoke server, by the way?
 
1:26 AM
@ArtOfCode Nightlies to S3
 
@Undo what tool?
 
It's awesome, just backs up every table you have
 
ta
 
1:39 AM
/me realises I don't have the root password for mysql...
 
1:59 AM
also @ArtOfCode, look into lifecycle rules. I transition things to Glacier after sixty days, and delete after a year. You might not have enough data for that to make sense, not sure
 
@Undo this is literally just backing up a blog database (turns out it's on sqlite3 anyway, so hey), so I can probably delete 'em after... a month, maybe
 
On the false positives page, are those two NAAs supposed to appear as well?
 
yes
they're "not-true-positives", rather than false positives
 
False positive how then? We use that term in two different areas of the system. My assumption, if they are on this page, is that false positive means we flagged it with someone's account and should not have. Is that what it means? The other area we use false positive is when smokey posts here, but no flag is generated, and someone replies with and "fp" value because it wasn't spam
On a related note, can we disambiguate the two somehow? I don't have a suggestion on how right now though
 
2:14 AM
@Undo ...am I gonna need to make upload permissions public?
 
2:33 AM
@Undo but do you test your backups? That is the question.
 
Okay, so apprently S3 parses markdown... in SQL files. Good to know.
 
2:46 AM
And S3 is cheap and data is tiny. Win.
 
3:22 AM
Restart: API quota is 7379.
 
4:01 AM
@ArtOfCode Ah, you're about to enter the wonderful world of IAM ACLs.
 
@Undo ...or root keys to the entire account, which also appears to work
Security FTW
 
@Seth Not formally, but about once a week it becomes convenient to pull the latest one down to restore locally for development
@ArtOfCode That's the other way :P
 
I thought about going into IAMs
 
Seriously, though, IAM isn't that hard. I have a template I can give you for the ACL
 
and then there was an easy option
 
4:08 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title, repeated URL at end of long post: fitnesseducations.com/supremex/ by jadueovei on meta.SE
 
33 seconds from post to deletion
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, pattern-matching website in body: Good Health Starts With Good Food by charlychali on apple.SE
 
sd k
 
@Undo then you're already doing better than gitlab :p
 
4:24 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, link following arrow in body, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title, repeated URL at end of long post: slimbodyketone.co.uk/viswiss-male-enhancement/ by BonnaSines on drupal.SE
tpu- by DJMcMayhem
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted username, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, repeated URL at end of long post: greater absorbability, but it also does not leave any oily residue by kencejuriya on gaming.SE
tpu- by DJMcMayhem
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body: Obtain a smoother and less attackable pores and skin by aerinejuri on gaming.SE
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, link at end of body: fornatgaex.com/kamasutra-male-enhancement/ by rhystalbot on meta.SE
tpu- by DJMcMayhem
 
Can someone write-authenticate my account?
 
For Smoke-Detector priveleges?
I can't, but you could probably ping Undo about it
 
Yeah.
@Undo, the system says I've already authenticated, but it still tells me I need to write-authenticate. What gives?
 
[ SmokeDetector ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link following arrow in body, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title, repeated URL at end of long post: garciniacambogiavibeadvice.com/garcinia-true-with-infinite-cleanse-ca/ by FloydMaudlin on graphicdesign.SE
tpu- by DJMcMayhem
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title: revolynfrance.com/gladiator-flashlights/ by Waliza on graphicdesign.SE
tpu- by DJMcMayhem
 
@bwDraco screenshot the /authentication/status page?
 
4:39 AM
> Authenticate with Stack Exchange

Associate your metasmoke account with your Stack Exchange account to provide feedback through the API.

(you have already authenticated)
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title, repeated URL at end of long post: supplementlab.org/test-boost-elite/ by fqdu bug on apple.SE
 
@bwDraco oh, standby, might be a permissions issue
 
(metasmoke username DraconicPenguin)
 
yeah, permissions - you should have a write access auth option on that page now
 
@ArtOfCode Which permission?
Flagger, I hope?
 
4:42 AM
@Undo didn't have the flagger role
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Email Customer Helpline Services? by Andrew Smith on drupal.SE
 
Oh good. That's default on new accounts now
 
tpu- by DJMcMayhem
 
...done.
 
btw, I have SE OAuth working (ish) locally and it's awesome
 
4:43 AM
fp- by DJMcMayhem
 
@SmokeDetector false-
 
@Undo as in "click this button and your MS account will be automagically created with all the required IDs and API tokens"?
 
Autoflag enabled.
Let's put those 100 flags to good use!
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Do you feel air emerging by Deanleos on meta.SE
tpu- by DJMcMayhem
 
8 seconds.
 
4:45 AM
Wait, is autoflagging open to the public now?
How did I miss that?
 
@DJMcMayhem yeah, that's a thing, it was in the meta post
 
Well shoot
 
My account isn't enabled for flagging (I'll soon be much less active for flagging anyway).
 
Cool, just registered
 
72
Q: Can a machine be taught to flag spam automatically?

AndyTL;DR: We did it, so... yes. What is this? Charcoal is the organization behind the SmokeDetector bot and other nice things. This bot scans new posts across the entire network for spam posts and reports them to various chatrooms where people can act on them. If a post has been created or edite...

 
4:50 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body: Staying Motivated To Exercise For Weight Loss by jollmores on superuser.com
 
Wow. That got flagged so fast I didn't have a shot
 
@SmokeDetector trueu-
 
@ArtOfCode Login for now, signup is next
 
@Undo ah
 
That looked like spam that forgot the link at the end.
 
Not sure
 
@bwDraco norepro
 
It's definitely VLQ
 
4:57 AM
@SmokeDetector k
 
It'd be awesome if some folks would test out OAuth - log out of metasmoke, then go to log in and use the new button.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: The first matter that you need is to select a Gain XT? by golgolnijede on apple.SE
 
> Successfully logged in as Andy
 
@Undo spot on
 
Well that's good
 
5:00 AM
tpu- by DJMcMayhem
 
Looks like it handles redirects right too
 
Not the quickest, but it certainly works
 
Seemed fast here
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title, repeated URL at end of long post: bestfitnesstip.com/lumanere/ by chiinchiin on apple.SE
 
It works just great for me!
 
5:00 AM
One minor feature request...let me close that success box
 
@Andy Hypothetically, we could just remove the message
 
@SmokeDetector how was that not auto flagged?
 
That works too.
 
@Undo pretty sure bootstrap has closeable alerts
 
> Could not parse the pattern
Malformed regex?
 
5:02 AM
@NobodyNada Not sure
@ArtOfCode It does, but it'd have to be on all flash alerts. Which would be fine.
@bwDraco Have the full error trace?
(I assume that's the metasmoke OAuth thing)
 
9 mins ago, by bwDraco
user image
 
oh
So not my fault. Yay!
 
@Undo ah, true. shrug
@bwDraco still norepro on this - you might need to reinstall GM
 
When I manually entered the script, though, despite Greasemonkey throwing the error, the summary works on my global account page.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body: Know A Weight Loss Diet by frankramos on askubuntu.com (@ThomasWard)
tpu- by Undo
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, pattern-matching website in body: I bet the title might have got you thrilled by user656960 on askubuntu.com (@ThomasWard)
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Their organic items are all-natural by jhaundnie on workplace.SE
tpu- by Undo
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title, repeated URL at end of long post: yoursantiagingserum.com/hydralie-cream-with-vella-visage-serum/ by Dyszsloi on graphicdesign.SE
tpu- by DJMcMayhem
 
5:11 AM
@SmokeDetector autoflagged
 
@ArtOfCode That post was automatically flagged, using flags from: Makyen.
 
Is GD special?
 
@SmokeDetector @Undo [bug]
 
aye
 
Nothing at all special
 
5:12 AM
Ohhhh
No, not my fault. I'm not updating the token to a non-write token
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, pattern-matching website in body: Utilizing settling in this. by Ploven1941 on apple.SE
tpu- by DJMcMayhem
 
Does autoflagging just randomly select accounts to cast flags with?
 
Mostly
We randomly select from accounts that have settings allowing them to flag it
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: PHP How to check removed blog in blogspot? by Rakhi Mishra on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)
 
5:14 AM
They forgot the links
 
Haha
 
I wonder if our Meta post will feature in the news section of next week's podcast
 
That's a little presumptive on the podcast schedule :P
Although they've been more faithful lately
 
Yeah
 
@Undo The MS data doesn't match the raw data: stackoverflow.com/revisions/…
 
5:17 AM
@Andy You're looking at markdown source there, we're storing rendered HTML
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body: d promotes the generation of latest collagen, all at the same by rtinjuriyam on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)
tpu- by DJMcMayhem
 
Ah. I forgot that's how the API returns it.
Well then... points and laughs at spammer
 
@Andy There's also a body_plain or something which returns the markdown
 
I've adjusted the conditions on my account to make the autoflag more aggressive for Super User.
 
@NobodyNada that would be body_markdown
 
5:20 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Healthy Method - The Obvious Way To Lose Belly Fat by Chsfsffad on superuser.com
tpu- by NobodyNada
 
@bwDraco I was literally just wondering if you meant to do that
 
Wow. That was quick.
 
We had 8 seconds earlier
 
@ArtOfCode You were looking at my settings?
 
@Undo if you've got a console, what's the smallest deletion time we've ever seen?
@bwDraco aye
 
5:22 AM
It's because I can afford to babysit my account on Super User.
That was 14 seconds.
 
@ArtOfCode '0'
 
heh
 
Dozen or so of those, but at that point you're probably looking at metasmoke latency
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: Sexual issues in light of current circumstances by Laire1929 on workplace.SE
 
tl;dr: pretty quick
 
5:25 AM
tpu- by DJMcMayhem
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body: Le Rouge Cream As seen, caring for your skin by Noel Demers on graphicdesign.SE
 
@SmokeDetector trueu-
 
tpu- by DJMcMayhem
 
No link, though.
@SmokeDetector autoflagged
 
@bwDraco That post was not automatically flagged by metasmoke.
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer: How to sync contacts between outlook 2016 and iphone? by Mike on superuser.com
 
@SmokeDetector naa-
 
5:35 AM
naa- by DJMcMayhem
 
5:51 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body: Immaculate Nitro max by user64827 on workplace.SE
 
Sign up through SE OAuth should work now
 
New metasmoke user 'Lt. A. Code' created
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link following arrow in body, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title: yoursantiagingserum.com/hydralie-cream-with-vella-visage-serum/ by user225911 on apple.SE
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in answer, blacklisted user: How to disable iMessage on a broken iPhone? by Chirag Patel on apple.SE
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: 10 The Way To Make Walking For Fat More Fun by kshefy on askubuntu.com (@ThomasWard)
 
@SmokeDetector k
 
@SmokeDetector @Undo that would be a yes, but /authentication/status is telling me I haven't authenticated
 
5:53 AM
@ArtOfCode Haven't authenticated at all, or without write access?
 
@SmokeDetector I'd call that NAA, but it's a blacklisted website
 
Green button. Huh.
 
entire content of the page
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, repeated URL at end of long post: www.x4up.org/test-boost-elite/ by hecu kipa on apple.SE
 
5:54 AM
Oh
@ArtOfCode you don't have an mSE account associated with that user
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title: gomusclebuilding.com/kamasutra-male-enhancement/ by user656971 on askubuntu.com (@ThomasWard)
 
@SmokeDetector k
 
Need to adjust the logic to show the box on /auth/status
 
sounds about right
 
tpu- by Undo
 
5:57 AM
@ArtOfCode should be fixed now
 
@Undo yep, still haven't authenticated with write access, though I guess that's deliberate
 
Yeah
Trying to force people to at least see the red box before getting write access, even if they don't read it.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: SMS - integration in magento by Synic Systems Pvt Ltd on magento.SE
tpu- by DJMcMayhem
 
@NisseEngström I'm about to report them all anyway by flagging, so yes
 
oh, allspam doesn't report them?
 
sd 3k
 
6:16 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body: made by eating that cupcake by texveso on superuser.com
tpu- by NobodyNada
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted username, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, repeated URL at end of long post: looking for a healthy pores and pores and skin, by rtin juriyam on drupal.SE
tpu- by NobodyNada
 
@SmokeDetector k, but y u no autoflag?
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer, no whitespace in answer, repeating characters in answer: Error: Unable to evaluate expression because the code is optimized by aaaaaaaaaaaaaa on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)
tpu- by NobodyNada
 
@SmokeDetector k
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted username, blacklisted website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: This skincare product also works to eliminate puffiness by kencejuriya on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)
tpu- by NobodyNada
 
6:32 AM
@SmokeDetector autoflagged
 
@angussidney That post was not automatically flagged by metasmoke.
 
Huh, strange
 
6:47 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: redesign supplement is paying little personality by Cloves58 on workplace.SE
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body: Minerals: Minerals is the best cell to be arrangers to on nitro mxs by Cleferts50 on drupal.SE
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title: Luminescent Serum If the area by user73001 on drupal.SE
 
@SmokeDetector k
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in answer: Using Two Wireless NIC at the same time on Windows 10 Desktop PC by harrymc on superuser.com
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: What is a callback method in java? Term seems to be used loosely by Dhirendra on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: Get Skin Hydrated by Lomb Erika on drupal.SE
 
@SmokeDetector k
@SmokeDetector f
@SmokeDetector k
 
7:08 AM
Ever since 3 autoflags, my flag halpful accuracy has increased by 0.01 percent.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, pattern-matching website in body: x4up.org/test-boost-elite/ by mazmr chu on apple.SE
 
@SmokeDetector k
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted username, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, repeated URL at end of long post: puffiness, crow’s feet, and wrinkles at the dermal layer by by kence juriya on drupal.SE
 
@SmokeDetector k
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title: testoriladvice.com/kamasutra-male-enhancement/ by gargebaily on security.SE
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: Alpha X Boost: The Best Product? by fonanguen on apple.SE
 
7:20 AM
@SmokeDetector k
@SmokeDetector k
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title: www.healthsupplementsreviews.info/junivive-fr/ by user351792 on meta.SE
tpu- by rene
 
@SmokeDetector How was this only autoflagged by two people? I thought it's either one or three
 
@SmokeDetector k
 
@SmokeDetector k
 
@M.A.R. an unknown error occurred while casting the third flag. Undo can probably see it in the MS logs.
 
7:25 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title: fitnesseducations.com/alpha-x-boost/ by jacquelineperry on apple.SE
tpu- by MAR
 
@SmokeDetector ᕙ(⇀‸↼‶)ᕗ
 
@M.A.R. gremlins
 
!!/blacklist-website seekzed\.com
 
@Glorfindel Blacklisted seekzed\.com
CI on f1b23b5 succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...
Restart: API quota is 6226.
 
> Being intelligent takes time, which could be spent posting more spam. – ArtOfCode
Don't you just love that about spammers?
 
7:37 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title: www.7supplements.org/nitro-mxs/ by Anhation on graphicdesign.SE
 
@SmokeDetector k
 
@SmokeDetector K
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, bad keyword in username, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: Just what is NutraHer Lean? by nutralean on superuser.com
tpu- by Magisch
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Creating a webapp using JavaFX - is it possible? by jpro on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)
tpu- by Magisch
 
7:47 AM
@SmokeDetector k
 
thx
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Dermafolia Treats hardest maturing signs by bonnthac on superuser.com
tpu- by Glorfindel
 
@SmokeDetector k
 
sd f
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: What are the Advance Effective Ingredients? by Nexplas35 on workplace.SE
tpu- by Glorfindel
 
7:59 AM
^ In the time it took me to create an account, that post was deleted...
Yay :D
 

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