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@JohanSJA someone who trusts my code, and someone who has numerous PGP keys they can test-import using the system... but @Marco is already a designated fix-tester

because @Marco confirmed the bug that I had

and i fixed it... i think...

yawns

too tired to coordinate the tests though

although if you're willing to test the code... i'll have to finish building the .debs in pbuilder

and then upload those .debs to the milestone

i've already built the lucid deb :p

and i'm not willing to test tonight so bleh

JohanSJA

haha...

that's ok

i am just asking anyway

ajmitch

3:54 AM

You are uploading the source packages to a PPA, and not binary .debs, right?

ajmitch

4:05 AM

@TheEvilPhoenix so as I understand it, putting .deb files on the +download page is not good

The Evil Phoenix

@ajmitch how so?

because the +download page has Installer package types

s/+download/download/

and i had them before for each milestone and nobody from launchpad yelled :P

its built from the same source, and the source tarball is even available

so explain the issues

you have 5 seconds before i lose interest in your statement

ajmitch

but there's no way that people can know that it's the same source, or even a clean build environment

response from launchpad developers was along the lines of "ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh"

& then discussing blacklisting .debs

The Evil Phoenix

well they havent blacklisted them yet

so...

ajmitch

No, but it'll happen soon

The Evil Phoenix

define "soon" in terms of an actual date or number of days

ajmitch

4:09 AM

When someone writes code to blacklist them, the code gets reviewed, landed & rolled out

The Evil Phoenix

i said a number of days or a date

not a nonquantitative answer

ajmitch

And I can't give that

The Evil Phoenix

but to please you

i'll use the github area to store the debs.

ajmitch

I can only tell you that launchpad developers know about it now

The Evil Phoenix

just to make you happy

and so you'll stfu

ajmitch

4:10 AM

You are being extremely rude about this issue

The Evil Phoenix

probly becuase i've been awake for 48 hours straight :p

ajmitch

I was trying to help, and now I regret doing so

Jorge Castro

5:23 AM

hi

heya @ajmitch!

ajmitch

5:36 AM

@JorgeCastro hello

George Edison

5:57 AM

Hello all.

Still haven't heard anything from Canonical yet.

JohanSJA

@GeorgeEdison , what are you waiting from Canonical?

George Edison

I sent in an application.

JohanSJA

oh. what is the application?

George Edison

6:24 AM

For a job on the Unity team.

Achu

What happen to Netbeans? the font is very Ugly!

does any one use Netbeans on Natty?

JohanSJA

@Achu , abandon Netbeans for a long time. Eclipse user right now.

Achu

uhooo

I found this question askubuntu.com/questions/32624/ugly-fonts-in-netbeans but the answer doesn't work for me and it is not clear.

@GeorgeEdison Can i ask this question again at AU? if someone has the solution

George Edison

@Achu Go ahead.

I make no guarantees that I'll know the answer, but go ahead.

Achu

I wonder if it will be dup ;)

George Edison

6:35 AM

@Achu Oooooh. Wait a sec.

I misunderstood what you said.

I thought you were going to ask me a question here.

I didn't realize you meant ask the same question on AU.

No, that will get closed as a dupe right away.

Achu

haha

yeah i get that

But is there a way at AU to bump someone's question?

George Edison

Yup.

Make a useful edit to the question.

Achu

by editing?

Ok sure

George Edison

Maybe fix the grammar or spelling or see if a sentence can be reworded better.

Achu

Grammar? :) i don't think so, my be the spelling :)

Questions Feed

6:46 AM

How to use Unity Dashboard in Gnome classic? http://bit.ly/n7SDc6 #unity

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on August 3, 2011 at 6:37 AM

Achu

@GeorgeEdison done editing. it needs approval :)

George Edison

I just saw it.

Achu

did i make it wrong?

George Edison

Nope... I just touched up a couple other things and approved your edit.

It's been bumped now.

Achu

Thanks :D

for others

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Q: Ugly fonts in Netbeans - How can i make it use the system font?

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Takkat

7:24 AM

Good morning

Achu

@Takkat 0/

Morning!

Takkat

o/

Achu

@Takkat What IDE you are using Eclipse or Netbeans?

Takkat

none of them ;)

Achu

Notpad? :)

Takkat

7:28 AM

so I am of no help to answer your question :/

I don't do web.

Achu

ohh

Takkat

7:46 AM

is upgrading main box from 10.04 to 11.04

JohanSJA

@Takkat using manual re-installation or software update?

Takkat

I'll reinstall fresh for clean-up

so many apps I installed but never use

still ~25 apps I'll have to reinstall manually :/

JohanSJA

i don't feel installing apps is a difficult task in Ubuntu.

Since we don't have to really 'search' for it.

Oli

8:06 AM

Morning all.

@JohanSJA Assuming they're in a standard repository. If they're not it means adding ppas or (if they're not in any repo - eg a humble indie bundle game) it get's a lot more manual.

JohanSJA

@Oli, still having a package manager is one big advantage for Linux.

Oli

@JohanSJA Oh definitely.

Takkat

still backing up

Takkat

8:32 AM

Backups done - ready for upgrade!

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9:47 AM

A text editor or viewer with folding based on indentation http://bit.ly/pFotsm #softwarerecommendation

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on August 3, 2011 at 9:37 AM

Takkat

\o/ is back

JohanSJA

@Takkat , with upgraded 11.04?

Takkat

of course!

feels great.

already done the updates and some applications. Now comes fine tuning and printer drivers ;)

My launcher also is still a bit messed up

JohanSJA

something new and already messed up?

Takkat

It's previous settings from my HOME

JohanSJA

10:01 AM

oh I see...

i normally delete all settings when upgrading

:)

Takkat

I like to keep my keyring at least ;P

now reinstalling some ppa

JohanSJA

what are your favorite ppa?

i don't remember installing any ppa for this installation

i used to do it to get chromium and firefox

but not in 11.04

Takkat

I use the svn version of guayadeque, have ffgtk running, use darktable..

damnit 404 on some ppa

Amith kk

10:45 AM

Yes! arduino arrived

Takkat

\o/

Greg

10:58 AM

can anyone help me? I'm trying to install a x86 application on x64 machine. It's partimage in case you're interested.

Achu

@Greg Have you installed ia32-libs ?

Greg

@Achu yeah, they're installed already

Achu

so, sudo dpkg -i - -force-architecture yourpackage.deb doesn't work?

Takkat

--force-architecture!

Greg

I haven't tried that... I'll have a go now

Achu

11:03 AM

@Takkat THanks :)

Takkat

;)

Greg

Couldn't get partimage installed... Just trying dd_rescue

nice one it worked... now for the real task.

Achu

11:21 AM

@Greg Cool

Greg

Never done this before, so I'd be grateful of any help you could give... I'm going to try to install Ubuntu to a small partition on my external HDD, but so it is persistant (so settings and customisations stay between boots).

Kim

11:32 AM

Do you guys work in the same company?

Takkat

@Greg this worked for me: askubuntu.com/questions/16988/…

Greg

@Kim I work in the UK, I don't think most of you live there too, do you?

@Takkat Thanks, I'll look into it.

The Evil Phoenix

11:53 AM

@MarcoCeppi around?

Marco Ceppi

@TheEvilPhoenix Not yet, ask me in an hour. I'm not on the same machine as yesterday.

The Evil Phoenix

ok. I fixed the bug tho and pushed to lucid maverick and natty so... :P

I will bug ya in an hour

Alvar

No stackApplet build ofr today?

Was hopeing that my new translation would be in it.. been waiting for the last ouple of days for my update....

Achu

@Greg Sorry, I'm in the office and i was busy. I think Takkat's advice help you to install Ubuntu on external HDD. if you face a problem when you do that, let us know :)

Greg

@Achu I'm fixing the HDD first (partition corrupted :/) then I'll get round to it. Thanks.

Alvar

12:03 PM

@georgeEdison no StackApplet build for today? :O

Achu

@Greg No, prob ;)

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12:51 PM

Install MS Truetype Fonts system-wide for all users http://bit.ly/njpYqJ #aptget

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on August 3, 2011 at 12:37 PM

The Evil Phoenix

greetings, members of the human race. :P

@Alvar did you know that the build systems are all stressy and are all busy building packages?

took 2 hours for a priority=critical update to my project's ppas to build

Alvar

aha

didn't know that

I get this from StackApplet dev version (latest, not as stable) all the time I upgrade...

`Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y
WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
stackapplet`

The Evil Phoenix

1:06 PM

you need the PGP keys

or its just unsigned

but it works for me :P

Alvar

well I added sudo apt-key yesterday

so now I only get it on that package

marco ceppi helped! :)

The Evil Phoenix

so does it say what key you need?

because if its not autodownloading the key

Alvar

dont think so...

The Evil Phoenix

my script will help with that

granted its in its own PPA but :P

Alvar

$ sudo apt-key update

The Evil Phoenix

1:08 PM

well continue anyways

i've done that before

and it hasnt always added the keys ;)

Alvar

one day all keys were just gone... very strange

got my first apartment today... not all great, the internet there is kind of slow the more that uses it the slower it gets...

all 35 is sharing one line :/

The Evil Phoenix

lolol

Alvar

YES YES YES!!!!

MY NEW TRANSLATION IS IN TODAYS BUILD! :)

The Evil Phoenix

want the rage stick to hit the apartment building people? :P

Alvar

I'm the man! :P

@TheEvilPhoenix haha naah....

@TheEvilPhoenix the rage stick is busy right?! it was yesterday! ;)

The Evil Phoenix

1:14 PM

no its not busy

the rage stick is right here....

the actual destructive one is busy...

raging at someone who wants to rescope security.se to be non-ITSec

Alvar

why can't I use StackApplet for launchpad? :) that would be awesome! :)

@TheEvilPhoenix lol

The Evil Phoenix

cough*blueprints*cough

Alvar

@TheEvilPhoenix security.se .se is the swedish domain :P

lol

The Evil Phoenix

>.>

security.stackexchange.com <--- that

Marco Ceppi

I need someone who is really good with C nearby today

Alvar

1:16 PM

@TheEvilPhoenix you big LOL I want to hit you now... borrowing the rage stick to hit you with it

@MarcoCeppi Just C not c++?

The Evil Phoenix

goes and stands nearby @Marco :P

Alvar

JAVA FTW!!! :P

Marco Ceppi

Kernel is written in C

Alvar

aha

Marco Ceppi

I'm getting odd errors and I kind of know why, but I don't really know why

So I'm going to google for about 30 mins then come in here and cry at whoever can help me

Alvar

1:18 PM

@MarcoCeppi that's usually how it is...

@MarcoCeppi stackoverflow c chat room?! :O

@MarcoCeppi chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/7/c

The Evil Phoenix

C# != C

Alvar

@TheEvilPhoenix it's not C++! :O

C# == null;

The Evil Phoenix

(C++ OR C#) != "C"

Marco Ceppi

PHP > C(++|#)

Alvar

what isn't there a "C" room?!

Marco Ceppi

1:21 PM

Wish they wrote the kernel in php :P

5

Would have been the worst project ever

Alvar

@MarcoCeppi php is more than C(++ I #) :O

@MarcoCeppi Java would have been worse! :)

Marco Ceppi

hehe

I think Linus picked a good language. C is pretty solid

Alvar

It might have worked well with the Java desktop! xD

@MarcoCeppi C++ isn't that solid, you can make programs that compiel fine but can have major issues!

The Evil Phoenix

yesterday, by The Evil Phoenix

@Alvar

<standard rage level due to how much is on my schedule> * <Hours to work with Microsoft Software> + (6*<systems running WinXP>) * <number of servers being evil>  == epic rage level 5000000000000000

remember this?

Alvar

@TheEvilPhoenix yes ;)

@TheEvilPhoenix I starred it xD

The Evil Phoenix

1:25 PM

i'm amending it:

[ <standard rage level due to how much is on schedule> * (50000000 * <number of projects with an unfeasible due date>) * <Hours to work with MSoft software> * (6*<number of systems running Windows XP>) ] ^ <number of servers being evil> == hyper rage mode, level 500000000000000000000000000

because i have 6 projects new todya

that they want due on friday

which is my last day of work before university

Alvar

@TheEvilPhoenix good for you! kepp up teh good work, you might be employee of the month! ;)

@TheEvilPhoenix My university starts at 24 of august ....

The Evil Phoenix

@Alvar they wont get completed. hence the massive change in that equation.

Alvar

@TheEvilPhoenix lol

The Evil Phoenix

and notice the ^ (power) symbol

there's 50 servers being evil today

so...........

@Marco you able to test my project's fixes now?

Alvar

@TheEvilPhoenix 50 servers with windows? damn that company must be the slowest in the world....

Marco Ceppi

1:29 PM

@TheEvilPhoenix sure

The Evil Phoenix

@Alvar its a state government... not feds, not local, but state... so....

@MarcoCeppi launchpad.net/addgpg-apt/2.0.0

Marco Ceppi

@TheEvilPhoenix got to build it?

Alvar

@TheEvilPhoenix I feel for you... I would have finished school A year earlier if we had A nix based system. sad really....

:D

The Evil Phoenix

if you used the PPA, i updated it last night

god damned chat throttles...

Alvar

@TheEvilPhoenix could this work for me? I'm excited :P

The Evil Phoenix

1:32 PM

@MarcoCeppi its a bash script... no building needed :P

@Alvar depends on what you need... you'd need to know the PGP key you need to download... since sometimes apt-key update doesnt work right :P

Alvar

oooh.

well it worked for some

The Evil Phoenix

@MarcoCeppi feel free to use the other key on my launchpad... or lemme know i'll give ya the address to my test keyserver...

Alvar

@TheEvilPhoenix stop updating the edit I get 3 popup screens :P

The Evil Phoenix

and the ID for the sample keys i put there.

@Alvar i have to to evade the throttling system.

Alvar

hmm...

The Evil Phoenix

1:33 PM

it has me waiting 8 seconds between posts

Alvar

whooooot :O

@TheEvilPhoenix it's windows fault ;)

The Evil Phoenix

@Alvar i'm talking from a linux system... i'm using mobile wifi + my laptop to talk on this.

but that's all i can do because of bandwidth

Alvar

@TheEvilPhoenix ouch

I had a lan with my laptop and some friends with a online tetris throw a edge connection which is under 1mb/s

The Evil Phoenix

now... the time for war against the evil that is spam mail has come... >:)

Alvar

we had like 3 connected uers

it was crazy, we had dropouts and lags and all kind of stuff

The Evil Phoenix

1:37 PM

:P

oh snap... hey @Marco can you add a ` to the end of this for me? chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/1520223#1520223

since my keyboard screwed up and didnt type it subsequently hits the keyboard with his fist

Oli

@TheEvilPhoenix Done

The Evil Phoenix

@Oli +5003 rep to ya

wait i cant up rep

nevermind

thanks though

Alvar

LOL

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